City Council July 22, 2025

Jul 22

City Council Meeting Summary

Time	Item	Item Summary	Motion Summary	Comment Summary
00:00:08	None: None	The meeting is a special City Council meeting for the City of Sausalito being held in Council Chambers at 420 Little Street and simultaneously at 3 McKinley Square, Boston, Massachusetts. The meeting is broadcast on Zoom, the city website, and cable TV channel 2017.	No Motion	0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral

00:00:34	I: CALL TO ORDER, ROLL CALL, AND APPROVAL OF REMOTE PARTICIPATION - 4:30 PM	Mayor Cox called the meeting to order and requested a roll call. The roll call was conducted, noting Councilmember Sobieski would join later for the regular portion of the meeting (00:00:51). Mayor Cox inquired if the council needed to approve remote participation, as it was on the agenda (00:01:04). City Attorney Rudin responded that it was not necessary because Councilmember Sobieski planned to attend in person when he could and Council Member Woodside's participation was noticed under the traditional Brown Act Rules (00:01:17).	No Motion	0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral

00:01:33	II: CLOSED SESSION - 4:30 PM	Mayor Cox announced the council would move to a closed session to discuss one item: conference with legal counsel, anticipated litigation, pursuant to government code section 54956.9 D for initiation of litigation. One case. (00:01:41) The council will reconvene at 5:00 PM.	No Motion	0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral

00:03:02	III: RECONVENE TO OPEN SESSION - 5:00 PM	The meeting was reconvened to open session. Mayor Cox announced there were no closed session announcements. She then requested to move item 5C to 5A, and with no objections, it was agreed to hear the road reconstruction item first (00:04:07). City Manager Mike Rogers requested the police item be removed from the consent calendar (00:04:19). Mayor Cox agreed to remove item 3I and move item 3C to business item 5D (00:04:25). Councilmember Hoffman inquired about item 5A becoming 5B and was satisfied with the clarification (00:04:54). Mayor Cox assured attendees that parking citations would not be issued during the meeting due to the full parking lot (00:05:18).	Motion to approve the amended agenda (00:04:37). Seconded (00:04:49). Motion carries 4-0 (00:05:18).	0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral

00:05:42	2: COMMUNICATIONS - 5:03 PM	Mayor Cox opened the floor for communications, inviting citizens to address the City Council on matters within their jurisdiction but not already on the agenda, noting state law restrictions on discussing non-agenda items. Multiple residents voiced concerns and opinions, primarily regarding a proposed development at 605 Bridgeway and the need for a forensic audit of the city's finances. Speakers also addressed pedestrian safety issues and the importance of preserving Sausalito's historic character. Mayor Cox addressed concerns about agenda documents and the 605 Bridgeway project, clarified the city's stance on housing and the Regional Housing Needs Allocation (RHNA) numbers, and announced the Police Department's National Night Out event. She also stated that the city council is working towards a political solution and is not sitting idly by (00:50:18).	No Motion	33 Total: 1 In Favor 23 Against 9 Neutral
00:06:21 Lisa B. Pierapont was Against: Expressed strong objection to the 605-613 Broadway project, stating it destroys historic Sausalito and alters how it is lived and viewed, comparing it to the Fontana 1968 apartments in San Francisco. 00:07:05 Fred Moore was In Favor: Thanked the council for their efforts, urged continued support for economic development downtown and reuse of the Wells Fargo Bank building, supported the pocket project, and stressed the importance of rejecting proposals that fail to address historic requirements or are out of scale. He also emphasized creative solutions to adapt to state legislation while maintaining the city's character (00:07:37). 00:08:51 Mary Goff was Against: Expressed concern for protecting the beautiful historic district of Sausalito, equating it to a unique and irreplaceable place like Tinsley Island. 00:09:15 Kay Mitzel was Against: Echoed the previous speaker's concerns and strongly opposed the proposed building on Bridgeway, encouraging the council to prevent its construction. 00:09:45 John Wales was Neutral: A CPA, discussed reviewing the budget and noted the lack of comparison between past audited results and future plans. He supports a proposal for a forensic audit to improve budget format (00:10:10). 00:11:03 Tully Friedman was Against: Endorsed the neighbors' concerns about the historic district and opposed any development impairing it. 00:11:33 Faye Rudio was Against: Expressed surprise that the large building project is still being considered after the Planning Commission's rejection and urged the council to deny the request to prevent ruining the city. 00:12:00 Robert Machulat was Against: Argued that the issues are the result of well-intentioned but ill-advised housing plans from Sacramento and hopes the council will manage the difficult problem while saving the town's character. 00:13:11 Laura Wright was Against: Stated it is critical to protect the historic district and urged the council to reject the developer's appeal on the 605 Bridgeway project, as the staff and Planning Commission documented its non-compliance with Sausalito zoning and laws (00:13:35). 00:13:59 Annie Porter was Against: Adamantly opposed the proposal at 605 Bridgeway, stating it is out of sync with its surroundings and urging rejection of the developer's appeal (00:14:07). 00:14:40 Diana Dempsey was Against: Asked the council to reject the appeal from the developer of 605 Bridgeway and encouraged them to stand firm against pressure, as appeasement will only make things tougher in the future (00:15:05). 00:15:54 Susan Sammels was Against: Expressed vehement opposition to the 605 Bridgeway project in the historic district and hoped for continued rejection of similar developments that destroy the unique character of the community. 00:16:30 C.G. Ware was Against: Stated strong support for historic preservation and adamant opposition to the proposed project, urging the council to support their staff's recommendation against it. Suggested linking up with the lieutenant governor to find remedies for unintended consequences of the law and suggested focusing on better housing for people who can afford it. (00:17:18) 00:18:27 Jed Dempsey was Against: Expressed thanks for the council and staff, reiterating opposition to the development at 605 Bridgeway. He emphasized the project's unsuitability and potential damage to the historic district and encouraged council members to fight the project. He also noted that the economic engine of Sausalito will be negatively affected (00:19:08). Stressed that Sausalito should not be seen as a soft target by developers and warned against accommodation that would make conflict go away (00:20:06). 00:20:51 Sophia Collier was Against: Expressed appreciation for the council's efforts and acknowledged the difficulty of balancing various factors. Asked to deny the appeal, citing the staff's detailed letter and the Planning Commission's denial. Emphasized the devastating impact on Sausalito's historic district and urged the council to fight for the community, noting the petition signed by 2200 people (00:22:04). 00:22:48 Jan Johnson was Against: Agreed with the previous speaker, calling the project a "beached Queen Mary" and mentioned a potential "baby monster project" for the McCain historic white cottage, advocating for its immediate rejection. 00:23:30 John Flavin was Neutral: Advised the council about a petition on the Hay City Council website. Suggested a citizens committee be involved in a forensic audit to ensure transparency and restore a sense of good financial management for the city (00:24:13). 00:24:59 Sonia Hansen was Neutral: Expressed agreement with the need for a forensic review of the town's finances due to skepticism and suspicion. Requested a larger venue for meetings with full chambers and criticized the condition of the current room (00:25:20). 00:26:45 Alice Merrill was Neutral: Supported full transparency through a forensic audit, praising the current budget worker but emphasizing the need to address public concerns. Criticized the proposed "big house" and highlighted the historic significance of the house in the back, mentioning William Tiffany's connection (00:27:05). 00:28:30 Bob Freeman was Against: Concurred with the majority of previous comments, stressing the importance of historic preservation. Anticipated significant strain on downtown parking during the construction, impacting local businesses, and urged denial of the appeal. 00:29:54 Sandra Bushmaker was Neutral: Raised concerns about the purging of staff reports and attachments from the July 15 agenda, deeming it improper and requesting restoration for a complete public record. Supported a forensic audit in light of the finance director's firing (00:31:17). 00:31:56 Babette McDougall was Neutral: Appealed for unity and rising above deep concern about trust in the community's leadership, emphasizing the need for daylighting on critical issues, including Senate Bill 79. (00:32:14). Urged preserving the town's character (00:33:04). 00:33:28 Judy W was Against: Stressed the need to protect the historic district and requested that the council reject the developer's appeal for the project at 605 Bridgeway, praising the staff and planning commission for their work (00:33:41). 00:34:17 Dan Chagru was Against: Encouraged the council to protect the historic district and stand with city staff, the planning commission, and fellow citizens in rejecting the developer's appeal for the 605 Bridgeway project. 00:34:59 Maral Boyadijan was Against: Hoped the council will reject the appeal and follow the residents' request to maintain the historic district in its current state. 00:35:43 Bonnie McGregor was Against: Stated the person behind this development has continuously demonstrated her disdain for Sausalito and the council must follow through and reject the appeal now (00:36:00). 00:36:44 Jerry Spolter was Against: Urged the council to deny the appeal for the despicable project that undermines the charm of Sausalito. 00:38:17 Evan Jane Chris was Against: Reiterated concerns about the project at 605 Bridgeway, stating it is the wrong project for the town, would destroy the historic district, and set a terrible precedent. Advocated shelving the project, a forensic audit for transparency, and prioritizing maintenance (00:39:19). 00:40:19 Lily Deschampis was Neutral: Questioned the fairness of approving a building not compliant with Sausalito zoning and what precedent it would set for other homeowners complying with regulations. 00:41:45 Joan Saxton was Against: Requested the council to reject this developer's appeal for this project. 00:42:24 Ellie Gibbs was Against: Stated that the proposed project is not the charm and sweetness that tourists expect when coming to Sausalito. 00:43:21 Ben Canberra was Neutral: Expressed concern about the safety of getting to Sausalito with the Alexander Avenue corridor being incredibly dangerous for pedestrians, for bikers. Proposed that the council to champion, to advocate for a physically separated gateway standard pedestrian walkway (00:44:52). 00:45:45 Joris Van Menz was Neutral: Agreed that traffic throughout the town would be better speed enforced. Cars are driving way too fast. The infrastructure is not really enabling safety for pedestrians and cyclists. About the project, it's not a perfect project, but the speaker does like that we're trying to build additional housing in Sausalito.
00:51:29	3: CONSENT CALENDAR - 5:15 PM	Mayor Cox introduced the consent calendar items 3A through 3I, noting that item 3C and 3I were removed. Item 3C will be heard as item 5D. The consent calendar included items such as adopting meeting minutes, authorizing an agreement with MCC I, approving an agreement with Springbrook Software, receiving and filing an update to BCDC's Enforcement Committee, authorizing staff to solicit bids for the Dunphy Park improvement project, adopting the Downtown Sausalito Business Improvement District Association budget, and receiving the Sausalito Police Department's Crime and Traffic Report. Council discussed moving 3C to 5A to accommodate public comment, which was approved (00:54:22). Councilmember Hoffman requested that item 3G also be removed and placed as 5F (00:54:33). A motion was made to approve items 3A, 3B, and 3D through 3H (00:55:03).	Motion to approve items 3A, 3B, and 3D through 3H (00:55:03), Seconded (00:55:20), Carries Unanimously (00:55:36)	3 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 3 Neutral
00:53:10 Sophia Collier was Neutral: Was scheduled to speak on item 3C, which was moved to item 5D. 00:53:10 Jan Johnson was Neutral: Was scheduled to speak on item 3C, which was moved to item 5D. 00:53:21 Sandra Bushmaker was Neutral: Was scheduled to speak on item 3C.
00:55:43	3.C: Approve the SB 79 Correspondence to Senator Wiener Offering to Remove Objection if Historic District Exemption is Added to the Bill	Mayor Cox removed this item from the consent calendar because new revisions to SB 79 were discovered. Councilmember Hoffman stated that the author agreed to take about 25 amendments last week, and these amendments are not in print, so no one knows what the amendments are. Therefore, the recommendation is that the most prudent course is to not submit a letter at this point, and wait to see what's in the bill before taking action. The council discussed the strategy of opposing the bill, seeking amendments, and the potential impacts on the historic district and the rest of the town. Councilmember Hoffman suggested waiting to see the amendments before taking further action. Councilmember Sobey emphasized the need for a strategic approach to balance housing demands and preserving the culture of Sausalito. Council decided to postpone the decision on this item until August 5 to have more information on the amendments. (01:18:29)	Motion to postpone the decision on the SB 79 correspondence until August 5 (01:18:29). The motion carried 4-1 with one abstention. (01:19:05)	6 Total: 2 In Favor 3 Against 1 Neutral
00:58:25 Jan Johnson was Against: Had issues with the letter and believes SB 79 puts a significant portion of the town at risk of increased building heights and density due to its proximity to bus stops and the ferry terminal. Urges the council to oppose the bill strongly. 01:00:05 Sophia Collier was In Favor: While supporting the previous speaker's concerns, believes SB 79 is likely to pass and thus Sausalito should seek an amendment to protect the historic district. Suggests the city should make a strong statement and seek the amendment, potentially moving to a 'not oppose' position if necessary. 01:01:44 Mike Rogers was Neutral: Wished to clarify that he wanted to speak on item 5C and believes it is now 5A. 01:02:05 Babette McDougall was Against: Emphasized the need to stand up and push back against SB 79 and other similar measures. Urged the council to remember their role as the guard of the town's unique charm and to stand together to represent the community. 01:03:23 Sandra Bushmaker was Against: Expressed concern about offering to withdraw the objection to SB 79 if the historic district is excluded, viewing SB 79 as a dangerous bill. Believes the city should maintain strong opposition to SB 79 and not appear wishy-washy. Also notes it applies to bus stops. 01:05:42 Joris Van Menz was In Favor: Personally believes SB 79 is a great initiative and supports the proposed middle ground of retracting the letter of objection by requesting that the historic district is excluded.
01:19:34	5.C: Authorize Staff to Proceed with Soliciting for Construction Bids for a Portion of the 2024 Roadway Rehabilitation Project for an Engineer's Estimate of $1.86 Million (Construction) and to Further Study Sustainability Solutions on Specified Roadways	The item concerns authorizing staff to solicit construction bids for a portion of the 2024 Roadway Rehabilitation Project, estimated at $1.86 million, and to further study sustainability solutions on specified roadways. Kevin McGowan presents an overview of the project, its budget, and the considerations for complete streets, including bioretention, road diets, and cool paving. He notes that two streets, Easterby and Locust, were removed from the list for further study of bioretention options. The presentation covers the concept of Complete Streets, different sustainability systems and issues associated with each. Concerns about the cool pavement application on El Portal are raised. Councilmember Hoffman discloses a property near the project area and the City Attorney advises she doesn't need to recuse herself. Councilmembers discuss the history of city policy related to the complete streets, the scope of the current project. Mayor Cox makes a montion to authorize staff to proceed and the council agrees.	Motion to authorize staff to proceed with soliciting for construction bids with amendments to include Locust and Easterby, and that the cool sealing on El Portal not happen. Direct staff to return in September about stripe issues. (02:24:20)	17 Total: 9 In Favor 6 Against 2 Neutral
01:52:56 Jan Johnson was Against: Jan expresses concern about the mention of narrowing North Bridgeway in the staff report and worries about evacuation routes and fire hazards. She requests that plans to narrow streets be permanently shelved. 01:54:48 Morgan Pierce was In Favor: Morgan Pierce supports the roadway rehabilitation project and the inclusion of elements like bioretention and traffic calming. He advocates for design thinking and considering the community for future generations. 01:56:23 Catherine Streetman was Against: Catherine Streetman voices concerns about road diets and the potential reduction of parking, emphasizing the dependence of residents, visitors, and workers on street parking. She references her past experiences with parking difficulties and hopes the project doesn't reduce parking. 01:57:53 Mark Palmer was In Favor: Mark Palmer supports the roadway rehabilitation project and the incorporation of elements like bioretention and traffic calming. He believes these improvements support public health and climate resilience. 01:58:50 Lori Vault was Against: Lori Vault argues against narrowing Bridgeway, citing the importance of the center median for safety vehicles and residents' access to garages. She expresses concern about traffic backups and the potential loss of parking, especially with new housing developments. 02:00:20 Mike Rogers was Against: Mike Rogers, a third-generation Sausalitan, shares concerns about the use of specific pavers for bioretention on roadways, citing their fragility and the noise they generate. He supports paving Easterby Street and opposes road diets. Mentions the long-standing need for paving Easterby Street 02:03:08 Loretta Rogers was Against: Loretta Rogers urges against delaying the paving of streets, particularly Easterby and Locust, and opposes road diets. She emphasizes the need to keep streets wide for commercial and emergency vehicles, criticizes the idea of bioretention in certain locations and also wants it known that there is a shortage of parking in the area already. 02:05:31 Jacques Ullman was Neutral: Jacques Ullman supports Morgan Pierce's comments and suggests reconsidering the cool pavement application on El Portal due to fundraising efforts. He recommends planning for Locust Street in conjunction with private properties and BCDC restrictions, rather than making immediate improvements. 02:07:16 Unknown was In Favor: A longtime resident of Easterby Street for 53 years advocates for the immediate repaving of the street, citing its poor condition and the public safety risks it poses. They mention the street is an emergency street, and it's used for waves of traffic as an alternative route. 02:09:36 Adrienne Britton was Neutral: Adrienne Britton argues for design thinking and maximizing the investment in infrastructure. She suggests considering sustainability and believes the current process needs improvement with more community input early on. 02:22:50 Susan Nemitz was In Favor: Susan Nemitz supports getting the paving done, including Easterby and Locust. She highlights the poor condition of Monty Mar and expresses hope that the council will approve the plans and move forward. 02:20:20 Karen Culligan was In Favor: Karen Culligan supports incorporating traffic calming measures like narrower lanes, and emphasizes that the repaving should look towards future considerations not just to immediate problems and that the 12 foot lanes proposed on the plan are too wide. 02:22:18 Alice Merrill was In Favor: Expresses her gratitude for finally repaving the streets. Agrees that other kinds of ideas for the streets, like adding bioswales and re-striping, should only be talked about when the streets are already repaved first. 02:15:03 Babette McDougall was Against: Babette mentions she is worried about the road diets. Also asks to not reduce evacuation capabilities and criticizes government for taking people by shock, or daylighting all the data to ensure transparency of the work. 02:17:07 Joris Van Menz was In Favor: Joris Van Menz expresses support for improving the roads and suggests considering traffic calming measures, such as repainting the lines. 02:17:48 Elina Frankov was In Favor: Elina Frankov expresses her support for forward-looking designs that consider all stakeholders and the importance of re-paving. Also considers it important to urge bike safety. 02:18:32 Sandra Bushmaker was In Favor: Sandra Bushmaker just wants to remind the council of the meeting in November 2024, in which a list of streets was approved. Reminds council to to get the roads paved. She is not opposed to looking at other items, and highlights the state of Easterby street needs immediate remediation.
02:51:30	3.G: Adopt a Resolution Approving the Downtown Sausalito Business Improvement District Association Budget for Fiscal Year 2025-2026	The council is considering a resolution to approve the Downtown Sausalito Business Improvement District Association (DS BIDA) budget for fiscal year 2025-2026. Councilmember Hoffman pulled the item to ask questions about funding, property owner participation, and future steps. Director Phipps provides a summary, noting the requirement for annual approval of the PBID's work plan and budget, as outlined in the disbursement agreement between the city and DS BIDA. The work plan includes a summary of past actions, board priorities, and budget construction. The PBID was formed on January 1, 2025, with a budget of $235,526, split between the city and private property owners. There are some outstanding assessments, with 10 property owners yet to pay, representing approximately 20% of the total apportionment. Approximately $178,000 was left over from the last fiscal year. Director Phipps mentions the city sent out courtesy notices to property owners with unpaid assessments and has been assisting with the administration of the district since its inception (02:59:51). Councilmember Hoffman expresses a desire for more independence of the business improvement district from the staff and more independence from further financial support from the city (03:05:10). Mayor Cox suggests revisiting the possibility of having the county assess the unpaid amounts on the upcoming tax rolls (03:10:41). City Attorney Rudin clarifies that the current action is to approve the report, authorizing the levy of assessments for the next fiscal year (03:10:20).	Councilman Sobey motioned to adopt the resolution approving the downtown Sausalito business improvement district association budget for fiscal year 2025-2026 (03:04:49). The motion was seconded by Cassie (03:04:59) and passed with a vote of 4-1 (03:12:44).	1 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 1 Neutral
03:00:38 Cassie was Neutral: Cassie, serving on the PBID, inquired about the timing and approval of the budget, specifically the first official meeting date and the fiscal year-end. She sought clarification on the next distribution of funds and the carryover. She notes that the BID has taken a significant amount of actions to form the district, establish the board, and hold meetings (03:02:04).
03:12:51	5.B: Give Direction to Staff Regarding Proposed Implementation of AB 413 Daylighting at Roadway Crossing with Marked and Unmarked Crosswalks Excluding Bridgeway And Caledonia Pending Further Review; and Review Staff’s Recommendation on Implementing the N	The council discussed the implementation of AB 413, which prohibits parking within 20 feet of marked or unmarked crosswalks. Kevin McGowan presented a study identifying 57 parking spaces impacted. Staff recommends proceeding with implementation city-wide, excluding Caledonia and Bridgeway for further study. (03:14:36) The council discussed incorporating traffic calming measures to minimize parking loss. (03:17:57) Councilmember Sobey suggested engaging residents and business owners on Caledonia Street in the planning process. (03:21:56) The City Attorney clarified that traffic calming measures don't automatically allow parking where it's prohibited but can justify a different distance via ordinance. (03:20:25) Mayor Cox emphasized a phased approach, prioritizing traffic safety data review before implementation (03:34:34), and staff agreed to research traffic calming options and bring them back to the council for approval via ordinance. (03:47:50) The council agreed to engage the community, including residents and businesses like Vicki Nichols and Alice Merrill from Driver's Market, in brainstorming solutions for Caledonia and Bridgeway. (03:49:32)	No Motion	6 Total: 2 In Favor 2 Against 2 Neutral
03:23:19 Vicki Nichols was Against: Vicki Nichols, a former Caledonia Street resident, expressed concern over the impact on residents due to increased parking restrictions (03:24:07), and requested a survey to assess resident needs. (03:23:54) She also criticized the lack of resident involvement in planning processes. (03:24:41) 03:25:52 Babette McDougall was Neutral: Babette McDougall supported a closer look at the plan implementation block by block. (03:26:02) She emphasized the importance of visibility for pedestrian safety, citing delivery trucks on Caledonia as a concern (03:26:58), and advocated for careful consideration of unique needs. 03:27:39 Peter Van Meter was In Favor: Peter Van Meter supported excluding Caledonia and Bridgeway from immediate implementation, urging a liberal interpretation of the law to minimize parking loss on Caledonia Street. (03:28:04) 03:28:55 Lauren Little Willow was Against: Lauren Little Willow, a Caledonia Street resident, opposed the parking restrictions. (03:29:09) She argued that removing parking would inconvenience residents and decrease property values. (03:29:50) 03:30:48 Susan Nemitz was Neutral: Susan Nemitz expressed concern about redesigning Bridgeway from the dais. (03:30:58) She suggested staff and the city attorney should identify alternatives for streets like Caledonia (03:31:22), and opposed town halls with uninformed venting. 03:32:27 Karen Culligan was In Favor: Karen Culligan supported implementing AB 413 for safety reasons, stating the law was 'paved in blood'. (03:32:39) She criticized attempts to circumvent the law and advocated for better sight lines on Caledonia Street. (03:33:30)
03:50:06	5.A: Authorize Staff to Proceed with Soliciting for Construction Bids for a Portion of the 2024 Roadway Rehabilitation Project for an Engineer's Estimate of $1.86 Million (Construction) and to Further Study Sustainability Solutions on Specified Roadways	Sarah presented a proposal to expand the scope of the Parking Lot 1 rehabilitation project to include sustainability, sea-level rise considerations, and high-quality public spaces, in addition to necessary repairs. The original budget was $1.3 million, but a full conceptual approach is estimated to cost around $300,000. Staff is seeking council direction on whether to proceed with the expanded analysis, which would include design alternatives considering sustainable surfaces, solar canopies, EV readiness, and stormwater management. Councilmember Hoffman questioned the validity of including heat island effects and sea-level rise mitigation in the project scope, leading to a discussion about relevant data and maps. Council members expressed general support for the project but were concerned about costs. (04:37:22) The Mayor strongly recommended pushing back on consultant costs, noting that design fees should typically be a small percentage of the total construction cost. (04:38:53) Overall, the council showed inclination towards exploring sustainable and resilient design options while ensuring fiscal prudence and minimal disruption to parking availability.	Councilmember Sobey moved to authorize staff to negotiate a professional services agreement with a consultant for an expanded scope with a budget of 250K. The motion included the understanding that there would be a not-to-exceed overall construction cost and that this budget would lead to the provision of concept designs. The motion also included, but was NOT clear about, what would be the next steps. (No Timestamp)	15 Total: 9 In Favor 4 Against 2 Neutral
04:05:22 Adrienne Britton was In Favor: Supports a comprehensive design approach to avoid costly mistakes, emphasizing resiliency and grant funding opportunities. She also stressed the importance of minimizing business disruptions during construction. 04:07:35 Joel Carr was In Favor: Advocated for projects that improve visual appeal and sustainability without losing parking spaces, highlighting the need to restart the parking lot and the lengthy approval processes in the city. 04:09:06 Mark Palmer was In Favor: Supported staff's recommendation for an integrated approach, viewing the project as more than just paving. He emphasized long-term cost savings through sustainable design and green infrastructure, and urged the council to view the space as part of the civic and ecological infrastructure. 04:11:28 Lori Vault was Against: Opposed spending additional funds to reimagine the parking lot, arguing that it would add unnecessary costs, potential delays, and might remove parking spaces crucial for commuters and Yacht Club members. 04:12:57 Morgan Pierce was In Favor: Supported re-envisioning the parking lot to promote civic investment in sustainable infrastructure, improve circulation, preserve parking, and enhance pedestrian safety. She requested the consultant include an option to preserve existing trees. 04:15:10 Grover Deer was Against: Argued for adhering to the approved budget and scope of work, prioritizing getting the parking lot paved without losing spaces or spending extra money on reimagining. 04:16:39 Charles Melton was In Favor: Supported reimagining the parking lot to address safety hazards and increase economic output, such as through increased parking revenues or reconfiguration, and environmental impacts. 04:18:48 Sharna Brockett was In Favor: Agreed that it's a once-in-a-generation opportunity to do it right and that the money should be spent now rather than doing patchwork now. This spot is key to Sausalito's beauty. 04:20:01 Vicki Nichols was Neutral: Acknowledged that it's a great plan to improve it, but that it should not be treated like an overrun. If approving it means it requires more funding, it should be accounted for. 04:21:43 Babette McDougall was Neutral: Acknowledged the previous council members that wanted more detail about the parking issues, and stated anything near the shoreline needs to go through the sustainability team vetting process. Supports flexibility and going back to basics. Also likes the sustainability approach. 04:23:21 Sandra Bushmaker was Against: Has concerns, but wants the repaving process to get done. This needs to be a priority, because the parking lot is dangerous and has had parking revenue diminished. 04:24:49 Alice Merrill was Against: Main concern is that the spot is not replaced. It's a lovely town, and the city should stick with the bare basics. 04:26:23 Peter Van Meter was In Favor: States there is actually more parking than ever before, and the half-dead trees need to go and the root ball problems need to be solved. Stated Mark made great comments, and this must move forward. 04:28:56 Fred Moore was In Favor: Says it is impossible to reimagine a better solution if it gets paved first. Get the reimaging done, then take action. 04:27:50 Karen Culligan was In Favor: It's difficult to get excited about paving the parking lot, but we need to be considering better alternatives for the look. That can be accomplished through the proposed design.
05:04:01	6A: City Manager Information for Council	City Manager Mike Rogers informed the council and the public about the successful waterfront work in Sausalito, which reduced the number of boats from 87 to two since 2019 through the Safe Harbor Program (05:04:15). He highlighted the partnership with the county and Ritter House and mentioned that the city is looking to partner with the county again this year at the request of Mayor Cox (05:04:33). The police department developed a $30,000 budget, with the county agreeing to fund $10,000 (05:04:42). Rogers expressed gratitude to Supervisor Mullen Peters and County Manager Derek Johnson for their continued partnership (05:04:53).	No Motion	0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral

05:05:18	6B: City Attorney Information for Council	City Attorney Rudin provides a brief update on the governor's trailer bills, AB 130 and SB 131, noting that they include significant modifications to CEQA and various housing laws. The firm has issued a legal alert for clients and is preparing detailed guidance for the community development department, which will also be shared with the city council.	No Motion	0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral

05:05:50	6C: Councilmember Committee Reports	Mayor Cox introduced the item of Councilmember Committee Reports.	No Motion	0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral

05:06:02	6E: Future Agenda Items	Mayor Cox stated that she and the Vice Mayor have committed to reviewing future agenda items and scheduling them for September through December, and will share this information with the Council (05:06:07). Councilmember Hoffman noted the absence of a forensic audit on the list, despite a petition with over 100 signatures (05:06:34). She suggested it be considered as a future agenda item. Mayor Cox responded that a report is being prepared for the council to decide on whether to undertake a forensic audit (05:06:57). Hoffman inquired about the timeline for the report (05:07:06), and Mayor Cox said it would come during her reading (05:07:13).	No Motion	0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral

05:07:19	6F: Minutes from Boards, Commissions, and Committees	Mayor Cox addresses the Disaster Preparedness Committee minutes, clarifying that Eric Little is the chair and Bonnie McGregor is the secretary, after Councilmember Hoffman incorrectly identified Bonnie McGregor as the chair. (05:07:40) Mayor Cox mentions that the county supervisor's office is planning a September emergency preparedness month. (05:07:49)	No Motion	0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral

05:07:59	6G: Other reports of significance	Mayor Cox introduced the item, but no specific reports or discussions followed.	No Motion	0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral

05:08:01	6H: Public Comment on Items 6A-6C and 6E-6G: limited to 2 minutes/person	Mayor Cox opens the floor for public comments on items 6A-6C and 6E-6G (05:08:10). Sandra Bushmaker asks about the source of the $5 million used to pay off the sewer bonds (05:08:31). Mike Rogers responds that he can provide that information under the city manager's report at the next meeting (05:08:48).	No Motion	1 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 1 Neutral
05:08:25 Sandra Bushmaker was Neutral: Sandra Bushmaker asks about the source of the $5 million that was used to pay off the sewer bonds.
05:08:55	7: ADJOURNMENT	Mayor Cox adjourned the meeting at 10:29 p.m. (05:08:58). He thanked everyone for their work.	No Motion	0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral

City Council Meeting Transcript

Adrian Brinton

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00:00:08.60	Unknown	Good afternoon, Mayor and City Council. Tonight's City Council meeting for the special meeting for the City of Sausalito is being held in Council Chambers at 420 Little Street. And it's also being held at 3 McKinley Square, Boston, Massachusetts, 02109. This meeting is also being broadcast on Zoom, also live on the City's website and on cable TV channel 2017.
00:00:34.56	Mayor Cox	Thank you, city clerk. I'll call the meeting to order. Uh, will you call the roll please?
00:00:41.56	Unknown	Councilmember Blaustein.
00:00:43.03	Mayor Cox	Here.
00:00:44.04	Unknown	Councilmember Hoffman.
00:00:45.32	Mayor Cox	Here.
00:00:45.49	Unknown	Thank you.
00:00:45.98	Unknown	Thank you.
00:00:46.13	Unknown	Councilmember Sobieski.
00:00:49.52	Unknown	And he'll be, he is not present yet.
00:00:51.75	Mayor Cox	He'll be joining us for the regular portion of the meeting.
00:00:53.86	Unknown	Okay.
00:00:55.15	Unknown	Vice Mayor Woodside. Here.
00:00:58.33	Unknown	And Mayor Cox.
00:00:59.60	Mayor Cox	Here, is the city attorney on?
00:01:02.44	Unknown	The city attorney is on.
00:01:04.07	Mayor Cox	Okay. Do we need to approve remote participation, City Attorney? It's already noticed on our agenda, but it's...
00:01:12.29	Mayor Cox	This is a portion of my agenda. It says approval of remote participation.
00:01:17.17	City Attorney Rudin	No, I believe we do not. As I believe Councilmember Sobieski indicated he was planning on attending in person when he's able to join us. And I believe we have noticed
00:01:29.60	City Attorney Rudin	Council Member Woodside's participation under the traditional Brown Act Rules.
00:01:33.79	Mayor Cox	We have. Okay, wonderful.
00:01:35.44	Mayor Cox	All right, with that, we will move on to closed session. We will be discussing one item in closed session
00:01:41.26	Mayor Cox	conference with legal counsel, anticipated litigation,
00:01:44.64	Mayor Cox	pursuant to government code section 54956.9 D for initiation of litigation. One case. Is there any public comment on our closed session?
00:01:53.97	Unknown	Seeing none.
00:01:55.25	Mayor Cox	With that, we will adjourn to closed session. We'll resume at 5 p.m. Thank you.
00:03:02.23	Fred Moore	Thank you, sir. Be good.
00:03:03.94	Fred Moore	Thank you.
00:03:04.37	Fred Moore	with.
00:03:04.83	Fred Moore	Oh, yeah.
00:03:05.39	Fred Moore	you
00:03:05.45	Unknown	He cannot hear you. He can't hear us?
00:03:06.87	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
00:03:06.94	Unknown	Yep.
00:03:08.07	Vice Mayor Woodside	Now I can.
00:03:08.78	Vice Mayor Woodside	Thank you.
00:03:08.96	Unknown	Okay.
00:03:09.89	Unknown	Alright, roll call. Vice Mayor Woodside?
00:03:12.31	Unknown	Here.
00:03:13.69	Unknown	And Mary Cox.
00:03:14.94	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
00:03:14.97	Unknown	you
00:03:16.07	Mayor Cox	Okay, we will start with the Pledge of Allegiance.
00:03:23.07	Sarah	Thank you.
00:03:23.09	Sandra Bushmaker	I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.
00:03:27.93	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
00:03:28.69	Sandra Bushmaker	public for which of standards. One given under God.
00:03:33.21	Sandra Bushmaker	and be visible with liberty and justice for all.
00:03:40.50	Unknown	Thank you.
00:03:42.32	Mayor Cox	We held a closed session this evening. There are no closed session announcements. I'm going to ask for approval of the agenda, but I've had a request.
00:03:51.39	Mayor Cox	that we move item 5C to become item 5A. Is there any objection to that?
00:04:03.98	Cassie	No. Okay, that means moving that.
00:04:07.15	Mayor Cox	It just means we'll hear the road reconstruction item as our first business item.
00:04:12.31	Mike Rogers	Yeah.
00:04:13.12	Mayor Cox	All right, may I have a question for you?
00:04:13.91	Mike Rogers	Yeah, a mayor.
00:04:14.86	Mike Rogers	AND I THINK IT'S A
00:04:14.89	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
00:04:14.93	Mike Rogers	Thank you.
00:04:15.59	Mike Rogers	Mayor, if I can. Yes. City manager. We're hidden. We're hidden.
00:04:16.88	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
00:04:19.01	Mike Rogers	The police item, we want to have that removed from the consent calendar as well, if that's possible. Yes.
00:04:25.44	Mayor Cox	Yes, we will remove item 3I, and we are going to move, we're going to move item 3C to become a business item. That will be business item 5D.
00:04:37.34	Mayor Cox	With those amendments, may I have a motion approving the amended agenda?
00:04:44.26	Mayor Cox	So moved.
00:04:46.72	Mayor Cox	Is there a second?
00:04:49.69	Mayor Cox	Second.
00:04:49.98	Councilmember Hoffman	Please call roll.
00:04:53.57	Unknown	Councilman
00:04:54.18	Councilmember Hoffman	Pardon me. And so item 5A is now 5B? Item 5A is now 5B. Okay, that's fine. Okay.
00:05:01.67	Councilmember Hoffman	Thank you.
00:05:01.98	Unknown	Well,
00:05:05.45	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
00:05:05.49	Councilmember Hoffman	Roll call.
00:05:06.45	Unknown	Council member Blasdene.
00:05:08.10	Councilmember Hoffman	Yes.
00:05:09.20	Unknown	Councilmember Hoffman?
00:05:10.50	Councilmember Hoffman	Yes.
00:05:11.44	Unknown	Councilmember Sobieski is still absent. Vice Mayor Woodside? Yes. Mayor Cox?
00:05:18.24	Mayor Cox	Yes, that motion carries 4-0. Folks, I want to let you know, we know, we realize that there are a lot of you here and our parking lot is full. And so to put your minds at rest, the police will not be issuing parking citations around this area during our meeting. So please don't worry about rushing out.
00:05:38.76	Mayor Cox	Our chief is here. You can thank her for that. So.
00:05:42.39	Mayor Cox	Okay, with that, there are no special presentations this evening. I'll now open it up to communications. This is the time for the City Council to hear from citizens regarding matters within the jurisdiction of the City Council that were not on the agenda.
00:05:56.55	Mayor Cox	Except in very limited situations, state law precludes the council from taking action on or engaging in discussions concerning items that are not on the agenda.
00:06:05.00	Mayor Cox	I have some request forms. The first is Lisa B. Pierapont.
00:06:18.28	Unknown	Go.
00:06:21.54	Unknown	Hello, I would like to express my strong objection to the 605 613 Broadway
00:06:30.55	Unknown	project, it destroys historic Sausalito forever, altering
00:06:35.99	Unknown	Thank you.
00:06:36.15	Unknown	how it is lived and viewed.
00:06:38.86	Unknown	Everything about it reminds me of the Fontana 1968 apartments in San Francisco. Don't let this gross overreach move forward. Thank you.
00:06:51.19	Mayor Cox	Next is Fred Moore and then Mary Goff.
00:07:05.40	Fred Moore	Good evening, Mayor and members of the council. I thank each of you for the many hours that you devote to make the city better.
00:07:12.01	Fred Moore	Please continue to support the economic spark downtown and the reuse of the Wells Fargo Bank building.
00:07:18.07	Fred Moore	The pocket has the support of overwhelming number of city residents.
00:07:22.98	Fred Moore	Also, please remain diligent and unanimously reject any proposal downtown that fails to address our historic requirements or so large that is out of scale or lacks any architectural style whatsoever.
00:07:37.39	Fred Moore	The state of California continues to pass broad brush legislation like the housing mandates and the daylighting laws. So we need to implement creative solutions to adapt our city and limit liability while maintaining our salty character.
00:07:52.09	Fred Moore	During these efforts, we cannot let our pursuit of perfection blind us to solutions of excellence. Our city needs creative solutions which enhance our economics, ensure appropriate infrastructure exists, and protects the city from liability. These solutions mean we can no longer do things the way we have been doing them for past decades. Priorities should be given to projects that enhance the city both now and in the future protect the environment support businesses and minimize city liability please consider using design professionals to address these challenges and seek resident input through study sessions and community meetings as gail noted in her book passages if we don't change we don't grow if we don't grow we aren't really living we all need to join together as the city grows thank you
00:08:41.99	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
00:08:42.97	Mayor Cox	Mary Goff and then Kay Mitzel and then John Wales.
00:08:49.30	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
00:08:49.32	Mary Goff	Thank you.
00:08:51.12	Mary Goff	My concern is to protect the beautiful historic district of Sausalito.
00:08:51.24	Mayor Cox	Welcome.
00:08:57.60	Mary Goff	There's only one.
00:09:00.07	Mary Goff	I equate that to Tinsley Island that says...
00:09:03.42	Mary Goff	There's only one place in the world like this.
00:09:06.41	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
00:09:06.63	Mary Goff	Thank you.
00:09:06.73	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
00:09:06.80	Mary Goff	Peace.
00:09:07.40	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
00:09:09.23	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
00:09:10.36	Mayor Cox	K Mitchell, then John Wales, then Tully Friedman.
00:09:14.44	Kay Mitzel	Thank you.
00:09:15.71	Kay Mitzel	Good evening, Council. Thank you for the time. I'm Kay Mitzel. I've been a resident for almost 50 years in this lovely little town.
00:09:23.42	Kay Mitzel	And I just simply want to echo what Mary just said in the first speaker.
00:09:26.68	Kay Mitzel	I am very much opposed to the monster building that is being considered on Bridgeway.
00:09:31.65	Kay Mitzel	And I encourage you to do everything possible.
00:09:35.27	Kay Mitzel	Do not allow that.
00:09:37.09	Kay Mitzel	Thank you.
00:09:37.76	Kay Mitzel	Thank you.
00:09:38.32	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
00:09:39.35	Mayor Cox	John Wales, then Tully Friedman, and then Faye Rudio.
00:09:45.75	John Wales	My name is John Wales. I've been a CPA and resident of Sausalito for over 50 years. Jackie Amrigas is also a CPA. Asked me to review the budget with her. And we had several discussions. And she drafted a letter to the city council, et cetera, that I also signed.
00:10:10.84	John Wales	We discussed that the budget that was approved had some numbers in it for this year. It didn't show the audited results from a couple of years ago. It did not show the projected end of the year results. So you couldn't do a comparison between what had taken place and what the city was planning for the future. So I know that a proposal has been made for a forensic audit, which could be helpful in coming up with a format for the budget to be approved and passed by the city council. So I would recommend, I would support that proposal.
00:10:54.09	Unknown	Thank you.
00:10:56.49	Mayor Cox	Tully Friedman, then Faye Rudio,
00:10:59.32	Mayor Cox	Then Robert Machulat.
00:11:03.40	Tully Friedman	Good evening. I hope I'm speaking to the converted.
00:11:05.99	Tully Friedman	I would, to save time, I would simply enthusiastically endorse our neighbors.
00:11:07.62	Mayor Cox	It's simply a...
00:11:11.08	Tully Friedman	concerns about the historic district and oppose
00:11:14.71	Tully Friedman	any development or construction that impairs that valuable district.
00:11:18.76	Tully Friedman	Thank you.
00:11:19.47	Unknown	Thank you.
00:11:20.03	Tully Friedman	Thank you.
00:11:23.96	Mayor Cox	Fay Rudio, then Robert Matchelat, then Laura Wright.
00:11:33.42	Faye Rudio	Good evening. I'm Faye Rudio. I've lived here for 20 years.
00:11:37.22	Faye Rudio	I thought the big building was over.
00:11:39.58	Faye Rudio	that the Planning Commission said no and it didn't sit
00:11:42.22	Faye Rudio	So I was amazed that this is up again.
00:11:44.76	Faye Rudio	And I urge you to follow what the planning department said and,
00:11:48.61	Faye Rudio	Just deny the request. It would really ruin our city. Thank you.
00:11:52.04	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
00:11:55.09	Mayor Cox	Robert Machilat,
00:11:56.80	Mayor Cox	Laura Wright, and then Annie Porter.
00:12:00.17	Robert Machulat	Excellent pronunciation of a difficult name, thank you.
00:12:03.43	Mayor Cox	I tried.
00:12:03.97	Robert Machulat	Thank you all for your time and care on these subjects. I just want to add something which has been said in a little different way, which is, I think, you know, a lot of what's going on is the product of a very well intentioned.
00:12:04.04	Mayor Cox	Yeah.
00:12:19.43	Robert Machulat	Bill Blazar, But ill advised housing plan out of Sacramento at least one opinion something needs to be done, but it needs to take into account communities like ours, which are unique and different and require much more than a broad brush and.
00:12:38.61	Robert Machulat	Thank you.
00:12:39.24	Robert Machulat	paraphrase Star Wars, you are Jedi or our last and only hope. So I hope that you are find a way to, to manage this difficult problem, but in a way that that saves our town for what it needs to be and is
00:12:54.59	Unknown	Thank you.
00:12:56.38	Mayor Cox	Laura Wright, then Annie Porter, then Diana Dempsey.
00:13:00.55	Mayor Cox	I want to let you know, I am going to make a brief statement at the end of this public comment. So I invite you to stay or else listen to the tape later on so that you can hear our perspective.
00:13:11.64	Laura Wright	Right. Good evening, Madam Mayor and City Council.
00:13:14.24	Laura Wright	Thank you.
00:13:14.30	Laura Wright	My name is Lori Wright, and I've lived in Sausalito for 25 years now. I think it's very critical that we protect our historic district.
00:13:25.36	Laura Wright	And I would really...
00:13:28.09	Laura Wright	hope that the council will reject the developer appeal.
00:13:31.90	Laura Wright	On 605 Bridgeway, this monster project
00:13:35.67	Laura Wright	The Staff and Planning Commission did their job and documented that the project does not comply
00:13:41.57	Laura Wright	with Sausalito zoning and laws. I'm hoping that the council must and will follow through and reject the appeal now. Thank you.
00:13:50.94	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
00:13:52.25	Mayor Cox	Annie Porter, then Diana Dempsey, then Sue
00:13:56.03	Annie Porter	Susan Sammels.
00:13:56.95	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
00:13:56.96	Annie Porter	you
00:13:59.56	Annie Porter	Good evening, Council. I'm Annie Porter. I've lived in Sausalito for 35 years. I adamantly oppose the...
00:14:07.34	Annie Porter	proposal at 605 Bridgeway. We need to protect the historic district. This proposal is totally out of sync with its surroundings. In my 35 years here, I've seen quite a few proposals. This one pretty much takes the cake.
00:14:22.73	Annie Porter	for being completely out of character. Please reject the appeal by the developer for 605 Bridgeway. Thank you.
00:14:31.34	Annie Porter	Thank you.
00:14:31.93	Mayor Cox	you
00:14:32.69	Mayor Cox	Diana Dempsey, then Susan Samuels, then Sear Ware. CG Ware, yeah.
00:14:40.32	Diana Dempsey	Good evening. I, like so many Sausalitans that you're hearing tonight, I'm also here to ask you to please reject the appeal from the developer of 605 Bridgeway.
00:14:52.75	Diana Dempsey	What I'd like to mention
00:14:54.98	Diana Dempsey	that I haven't heard anyone speak of yet tonight is the, we know what pressure the council is under from the developer.
00:15:01.38	Diana Dempsey	And I just encourage you to keep in mind
00:15:05.12	Diana Dempsey	that appeasement now will not make things easier down the road. It'll only make things tougher down the road.
00:15:13.29	Diana Dempsey	I'm not sure.
00:15:15.45	Diana Dempsey	We all can think of a certain bully who wants to go after American universities and shows us his first target, Columbia.
00:15:24.41	Diana Dempsey	And what did Columbia do?
00:15:26.52	Diana Dempsey	Columbia caved. Columbia decided to appease.
00:15:30.06	Diana Dempsey	Did the bully stop?
00:15:31.60	Diana Dempsey	The bully did not stop.
00:15:33.67	Diana Dempsey	So I encourage you to just stand firm.
00:15:36.81	Diana Dempsey	Remember what the vast majority of the people of Sausalito want you to do, which is oppose this appeal.
00:15:42.94	Diana Dempsey	And we will be eternally grateful.
00:15:45.25	Diana Dempsey	Thank you.
00:15:46.89	Diana Dempsey	Thank you.
00:15:48.05	Mayor Cox	Susan Samuels, CG Ware, and then Jed Dempsey.
00:15:52.98	Mayor Cox	Good evening, CCG.
00:15:54.95	Susan Sammels	I, like others, am here in vehement opposition of 605 Bridgeway in our historic district. And I hope that the council and the planning commission, this council and planning commission, and future councils and planning commissions will continue to reject similar developments, not just in our historic district, but throughout our community that destroy the unique character. Thank you. Thank you.
00:16:24.25	Mayor Cox	C.G., then Dempsey, then.
00:16:27.86	Mayor Cox	Chica Raymond.
00:16:30.68	C.G. Ware	Good evening. Hi, I'm C.G. Ware. I live at 171 San Carlos. I've been a resident for over 25 years. And I want to say, whatever, if this monstrosity got built, it would not block my view. I'm here as someone who supported historic preservation for years and years. And this is why I'm just adamantly opposed to this. You know, your staff, as you have known, has gone into this business.
00:16:54.88	C.G. Ware	and has looked at it and has said, no, this is not a good idea.
00:16:59.25	C.G. Ware	So I think one of the crucial things is that you support your staff who's taken the time and trouble to do this.
00:17:05.34	C.G. Ware	One little thing I wanted to mention, I went to the Marin
00:17:09.34	C.G. Ware	women lawyers meeting. I'm not a lawyer, but I was invited as a guest. And I heard the lieutenant governor, who was
00:17:16.95	C.G. Ware	Um,
00:17:18.25	C.G. Ware	assaulted really with all the lawyers saying what a terrible idea this nine-story thing would be for our town. And she was very interested and she said, you know, I think that there are some very horrible unintended consequences coming from this law and there needs to be some remedies. So I think you should link up with the lieutenant governor of the state of California and find out if she can give you some support here.
00:17:42.80	C.G. Ware	to find a way
00:17:44.24	C.G. Ware	to carve out things like
00:17:45.96	C.G. Ware	Okay.
00:17:46.23	C.G. Ware	a historic district that's one of only 11
00:17:47.61	Unknown	one of them.
00:17:49.28	C.G. Ware	in the entire state.
00:17:51.02	C.G. Ware	Because I grew up in Carmel, and Carmel is now only for the wealthy. This building will be for second and third and fourth homes for the rich. It will not solve any of our problems, which we need so much, which is better housing for people who can afford it. So just check in with the lieutenant governor and see if you can get some help. Thank you.
00:18:10.76	Mayor Cox	Thank you, CG.
00:18:11.94	Mayor Cox	I will note for the record that our Councilmember Sobieski arrived at 520. Welcome.
00:18:17.46	Mayor Cox	He has been traveling all day.
00:18:19.56	Mayor Cox	But made the effort to be here. We very much appreciate that.
00:18:22.26	Mayor Cox	Next up is Jed Dempsey, then Chuck Raymond, then Sophia Collier.
00:18:27.84	Jed Dempsey	Hi, my name is Jed Dempsey. I live on Bulkley Avenue. I'd like to thank the city council and staff again for all their work on our behalf.
00:18:37.34	Jed Dempsey	As many other people have been, I'm here to talk about an item that is not on the agenda, the monster development proposed at 605 Bridgeway.
00:18:45.36	Jed Dempsey	My goal is twofold to remind the city council how important this issue is to me and many other Sausalitans as we're seeing.
00:18:53.59	Jed Dempsey	and to encourage its council members to do everything they can to fight this project and to protect the historic district.
00:19:00.75	Jed Dempsey	I don't have to tell you that the proposed project is ridiculously unsuitable for the location and would severely damage the historic district.
00:19:08.32	Jed Dempsey	More than 2000 Sausalitans who may not agree about anything else.
00:19:14.26	Jed Dempsey	have signed a petition opposing the project.
00:19:17.86	Jed Dempsey	Indeed, there's probably only one person in Sausalito
00:19:21.38	Jed Dempsey	that thinks it's a good idea.
00:19:23.98	Jed Dempsey	I'd like to make two points.
00:19:25.72	Jed Dempsey	First.
00:19:26.79	Jed Dempsey	This isn't about preserving views for a few nearby residents.
00:19:31.33	Jed Dempsey	It's about preserving the character and charm of the historic district that is the heart of Sausalito's appeal.
00:19:38.02	Jed Dempsey	and is its economic engine.
00:19:40.84	Jed Dempsey	That charm is why many of us came here
00:19:43.46	Jed Dempsey	and why more than a million visitors a year support the local economy.
00:19:47.73	Jed Dempsey	Imagine if the monster project make.
00:19:49.95	Jed Dempsey	sauce leader just 5% less attractive.
00:19:53.18	Jed Dempsey	How many of our Bridgeway businesses could survive with 5% less revenue?
00:19:58.31	Jed Dempsey	Second.
00:19:59.52	Jed Dempsey	While it may be tempting to look for an accommodation that will make this conflict go away,
00:20:04.72	Jed Dempsey	It is foolhard.
00:20:06.66	Jed Dempsey	Once Sausalito is seen as a soft target, you can be sure that 10 more developers
00:20:11.74	Jed Dempsey	or the same one again.
00:20:14.05	Jed Dempsey	We'll try to play the same game.
00:20:16.67	Jed Dempsey	So one project will become two
00:20:19.03	Jed Dempsey	and two will become ten.
00:20:22.29	Jed Dempsey	There is no easy way out.
00:20:24.77	Jed Dempsey	The time to stand and fight is now.
00:20:28.09	Jed Dempsey	I'm here.
00:20:30.17	Jed Dempsey	Thank you so much.
00:20:31.21	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
00:20:34.98	Mayor Cox	Chuck Raymond, then Sophia Collier, and then Jan Johnson.
00:20:46.91	Mayor Cox	I don't see Chuck, so come on up, Sophia. Welcome.
00:20:50.10	Sophia Collier	Thank you.
00:20:51.45	Sophia Collier	Thank you very much. And I also want to echo what others have said in the sense that I really do appreciate so much the efforts of the council. And I know that this is a difficult situation trying to balance many different things and make good decisions for us going forward. And I am very grateful for that effort and work. And I want to particularly acknowledge the mayor in her kindness to our organization and listening to us and trying to find solutions, as she always is trying to do.
00:21:23.34	Sophia Collier	as well as, of course, our other council members.
00:21:26.70	Sophia Collier	So I want to just say that I'm here to ask to deny the appeal.
00:21:30.66	Sophia Collier	and that on November 14th, the staff issued an 18 page letter, which really should be awarded a Pulitzer Prize for a letter that was so well documented, wonderful staff talent that we have, our planning commissioner,
00:21:44.84	Sophia Collier	Commission properly denied it.
00:21:46.76	Sophia Collier	And it's impossible to overstate how devastating this project would be for Sausalito.
00:21:51.64	Sophia Collier	as the city's own contracted architectural historians have found in two detailed reports.
00:21:57.02	Sophia Collier	This project would destroy.
00:21:58.95	Sophia Collier	the historic district.
00:22:00.50	Sophia Collier	And that that's not my words, that's their words in their reports.
00:22:04.62	Sophia Collier	so we cannot allow our legacy to be the destruction of the historic district and i know that we're in a difficult political and legal environment but i want to urge the council to remember that 2200 people did sign a petition against the project and as our representatives we need you to fight for us and also for you to know that we stand behind you
00:22:27.99	Sophia Collier	The Sausalito we treasure and love exists because generations of people in Sausalito have worked hard to create it and preserve it. And we cannot fail now in our moment.
00:22:39.31	Sophia Collier	Thank you. Thank you.
00:22:41.69	Sophia Collier	Jams.
00:22:41.98	Mayor Cox	Johnson, then John Flavin,
00:22:44.56	Mayor Cox	And then...
00:22:46.57	Mayor Cox	Sonia Hansen.
00:22:48.26	Jan Johnson	Well, I agree with everything Sophia said. I call it the beached Queen Mary, except it's more hideous than the Queen Mary.
00:22:55.98	Jan Johnson	And I think I should just add that I believe that there's a baby monster project.
00:23:01.84	Jan Johnson	soon to be proposed for the McCain historic white cottage that's behind this site.
00:23:10.92	Jan Johnson	It should be squashed like a bug as soon as humanly possible. Thank you, and please reject the...
00:23:20.03	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
00:23:23.32	Mayor Cox	Welcome John Flavin, then Sonia Hansen, and then Alice Merrill.
00:23:30.44	John Flavin	I just want to advise you all that Hay City Council has posted a petition on the web on the Internet, and you can reach it by going through Hay City Council and just tapping on the little box that has the petition in it. I have a copy of the petition results to the hour almost.
00:23:46.32	Unknown	THE FAMILY.
00:23:51.65	John Flavin	And we have well over 100 of these.
00:23:55.91	John Flavin	It's kind of failed, but it's a big dollar.
00:23:58.64	John Flavin	Yeah.
00:23:59.97	John Flavin	Um,
00:24:03.10	John Flavin	A lot of this and the frustration stems from transparency. And so I would encourage you all, if you decide to do this step,
00:24:13.31	John Flavin	that you get a citizens committee to be involved throughout the process so that we take any idea of favoritism, whatever, out of the picture. It will be professionals, and then they would be choosing the forensic firm to conduct the investigation. I know a lot of people have concerns, but it needs to be done. You need to restore the sense of your shepherd of a good financial situation for the city of Sausage, Leiden. Thank you.
00:24:50.73	Unknown	Thank you.
00:24:50.75	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
00:24:52.34	Mayor Cox	Sonia Hansen, then Alice Merrill,
00:24:57.28	Mayor Cox	Then Bob Freeman.
00:24:59.93	Sonia Hansen	Sonia Hansen, Sausalito resident. I don't even want to think about how many years.
00:25:05.92	Sonia Hansen	First, I'd like to say I certainly agree with John. We need a forensic review of the financial situation in this town. Many, many, many of us are very concerned, and until there is a forensic audit...
00:25:20.72	Sonia Hansen	We're skeptical and very suspicious of what's going on. So thank you. Second of all, this room full of people includes people out there because there's no room. And we've asked about this before, and I'm going to ask again. When you're going to have a full chamber, and you usually are going to know when that happens, please arrange for this to happen. ID Test Hall, the Spinnaker, you have choices. And it would be actually quite a... We would be considering the rest of us. So please, in the future. And if anybody looks at the ceiling in this room...
00:25:57.34	Sonia Hansen	This room is a disgrace. And I know coming up later in the agenda, you're talking about spending millions and millions of dollars unnecessarily.
00:26:05.96	Sonia Hansen	How about we take care of what we've got? Thank you.
00:26:09.42	Mayor Cox	Thank you. And thank you for your comment about choosing a bigger venue. I had no idea we were going to have this many people here this evening. I learned when I walked in the door this evening, one of you advised me that there was going to be a gathering of people. So I invite you, if you know that a number of you are going to show up to be heard, let us know and we will absolutely do our best to make accommodations so that all of you have a seat and all of you are comfortable as you chat with us.
00:26:38.95	Mayor Cox	Welcome, Alice. Hello. Next, Bob Freeman. And then next, Chuck Raymond.
00:26:40.40	Unknown	Thank you.
00:26:40.47	Alice Merrill	Oh.
00:26:45.45	Alice Merrill	Okay, I have two things.
00:26:47.48	Alice Merrill	On the subject of the forensic audit, I think that full transparency at this point is a good idea. Why not?
00:26:56.12	Alice Merrill	Um, people have asked for this in very many ways and very different venues. And, um,
00:27:04.94	Alice Merrill	What?
00:27:05.57	Alice Merrill	I think that our fellow who is working on the budget all right now is a wonderful guy. I think he's a wonderful guy. I'm not suggesting anything. I'm suggesting that for full transparency, with the concerns that people have, you just go ahead and get the forensic audit that is fully transparent, please. Then, on the subject of this big house, it's terrible, awful. I don't get it. Why is she... that is fully transparent, please. Then, on the subject of this big house, it's terrible, awful, I don't get it, why she's doing it. But the house up in the back that Jan Johnson mentioned,
00:27:35.60	Unknown	do
00:27:40.48	Alice Merrill	Um,
00:27:41.46	Alice Merrill	I think that's a historic house, and I don't know if you guys all know that, but William Tiffany lived there.
00:27:48.97	Alice Merrill	And he is one of the sort of founding father fellows here in Sausalito. He was here a long time ago, and there's a park named after him. But when we were kids, we would come down that hill, and my mom would point it out that it had the...
00:28:08.32	Alice Merrill	It had the widow's walk and she said that was the Tiffany house.
00:28:12.29	Alice Merrill	Turns out.
00:28:14.33	Alice Merrill	It was a relative, which I did not know.
00:28:16.37	Alice Merrill	Until I came back.
00:28:18.33	Alice Merrill	But anyway, it is a historic building because it is...
00:28:22.03	Alice Merrill	William Tiffany's house. Thank you.
00:28:24.62	Mayor Cox	Thank you. Bob Freeman and then Chuck Raymond.
00:28:30.41	Bob Freeman	Evening. I'm Bob Freeman. I have the Trident Building across the street from this project. I basically concur with all the comments before, or 99% of them. I think it's very important that we protect the historic preservation of the town. It's something, once it goes away, you'll never get it back. It's going to run like a train down the street so i think it has to be denied as far as i'm concerned one of the other problems that nobody seems to do out on is while this is under construction which i would guesstimate a nine story building if the statue would be a one and a half to two year project i would think the strain that's going to be put on downtown parking, which will strain every business up and down the block or blocks, I think it would be a major headache for the downtown. I strongly hope that you'll deny this appeal. Thank you.
00:29:33.54	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
00:29:34.61	Mayor Cox	I have one more speaker card and I called it earlier Chuck Raymond. I don't know if he perhaps left after turning in a speaker card.
00:29:42.81	Mayor Cox	Okay. Is anyone online city clerk?
00:29:46.03	Unknown	Yes, we do have about six speakers. First one is Sandra Bushmaker.
00:29:54.91	Sandra Bushmaker	Good evening, counsel. I have a slightly different issue to raise with you. You may not be aware, but the July 15th,
00:30:03.78	Sandra Bushmaker	Agenda.
00:30:04.96	Sandra Bushmaker	was purged under items number five was purged of all the staff reports and all the attachments
00:30:11.36	Sandra Bushmaker	I do believe that's improper.
00:30:13.70	Sandra Bushmaker	as that was a
00:30:15.66	Sandra Bushmaker	Posted.
00:30:16.78	Sandra Bushmaker	and a meeting, official meeting of this city. So we don't have the documents
00:30:23.73	Sandra Bushmaker	that were under
00:30:25.89	Sandra Bushmaker	item 5. Interestingly enough, all the consent
00:30:29.20	Sandra Bushmaker	items are still there on the website.
00:30:32.94	Sandra Bushmaker	So I just want to bring that to your attention because I think it's important to have a full, complete
00:30:38.22	Sandra Bushmaker	public record. Now, I realize what happened at the July 15th meeting that had to be adjourned after communications because a quorum was not
00:30:48.65	Sandra Bushmaker	Um,
00:30:50.07	Sandra Bushmaker	and not
00:30:51.39	Sandra Bushmaker	existing any longer. So,
00:30:54.22	Sandra Bushmaker	I realize that I don't know if that explains this issue, but I do want to make sure that our public record is complete and I want to see a restoration of all those reports.
00:31:05.33	Sandra Bushmaker	to be put back under item five for the July 15, 2020
00:31:10.88	Sandra Bushmaker	sticks
00:31:12.04	Sandra Bushmaker	a 2025 agenda.
00:31:14.37	Sandra Bushmaker	And lastly, I do support the forensic audit
00:31:17.93	Sandra Bushmaker	particularly in light of the firing of our finance director,
00:31:22.98	Sandra Bushmaker	We don't know what we don't know, and I think we should be looking at ourselves to reassure the public and you as stewards of our
00:31:32.21	Sandra Bushmaker	city.
00:31:33.41	Sandra Bushmaker	of what is going on with our financial situation. Thank you.
00:31:40.39	Mayor Cox	Thank you. Thank you for the heads up about the agenda. I will ask the city clerk to look into that and find out what happened.
00:31:50.92	Mayor Cox	Who's next?
00:31:51.61	Unknown	by Bette McDougall.
00:31:56.69	Babette McDougall	Good evening.
00:31:57.89	Babette McDougall	Thank you so much, Babette McDougall, a resident.
00:32:00.83	Babette McDougall	So I just would like to weigh in generally. First of all, are we still in public comment generally, Madam Mayor?
00:32:08.13	Babette McDougall	I think we are because so many people have drilled down on certain issues. Just want to make sure we're still in broad public comment.
00:32:14.60	Babette McDougall	And with that in mind, I would like to just again appeal to all of us and each of you.
00:32:21.62	Babette McDougall	to know that if we do not come together
00:32:24.45	Babette McDougall	and rise above what you can clearly see is a deep concern
00:32:29.08	Babette McDougall	For trust is,
00:32:30.73	Babette McDougall	in the leadership of this community.
00:32:33.79	Babette McDougall	This has been a rolling problem, and I think it's at critical mass now because the stakes are so high and they can't be avoided anymore.
00:32:42.98	Babette McDougall	They're right in front of us. So we need a lot of daylighting.
00:32:46.20	Babette McDougall	of what we are truly facing. That's why, for example, the Senate Bill 79 thing,
00:32:51.50	Babette McDougall	is really important.
00:32:53.22	Babette McDougall	Now, like Ms. Bushmaker, I'm really kind of unclear on where that stands, too.
00:32:58.10	Babette McDougall	So I'd love some clarification there.
00:33:01.09	Babette McDougall	There are so many things that are on the line for our town.
00:33:04.97	Babette McDougall	So if we don't stand together, then we're going to lose that character that all of us are saying we love so much and would like to hold on to.
00:33:13.96	Babette McDougall	So thank you so much for listening. I yield back my time.
00:33:18.45	Babette McDougall	City Clerk.
00:33:21.02	Unknown	Judy W
00:33:28.97	Judy W	Good evening. Thank you for your time. I'm a 30-year resident of Sausalito, living in the historic district since 1997. We must protect our historic district.
00:33:41.72	Judy W	Please reject the developer appeal on the entirely inappropriate project.
00:33:46.53	Judy W	proposed for 605 Bridgeway.
00:33:49.91	Judy W	Thank you to the staff and planning commission who did their jobs and documented that the project does not comply with Sausalito zoning and laws. I urge the council to follow through and reject the appeal now once and for all. Thank you.
00:34:06.04	Unknown	Thank you. Next speaker is Daniel T.
00:34:16.18	Dan Chagru	Hello?
00:34:17.48	Dan Chagru	Can you hear me? Oh, hello. Well, I want to thank you, Mayor Cox, and the council for all your hard work. My name is Dan Chagru. I have lived in Sausalito for most of my life. I would like to encourage the council to protect the historic district and stand with city staff, the planning commission, and nearly 2,400 of our fellow citizens and reject the developer's appeal for the project at 605 Bridgeway. Thank you.
00:34:17.63	Lily Deschampis	Can you hear me?
00:34:50.47	Unknown	Thank you.
00:34:51.28	Unknown	Next speaker is Maral Boyadijan.
00:34:59.79	Maral Boyadijan	I am also obviously a resident of Sausalito and am hoping that
00:35:07.41	Maral Boyadijan	you will reject the appeal and follow what most, if not all of the residents have requested, is that we maintain the historic district.
00:35:21.59	Maral Boyadijan	The way that it is currently.
00:35:23.83	Maral Boyadijan	Thank you.
00:35:25.88	Maral Boyadijan	Thank you.
00:35:27.70	Maral Boyadijan	City Club.
00:35:28.12	Maral Boyadijan	Thank you.
00:35:28.51	Unknown	Next speaker is Bonnie McGregor.
00:35:32.68	Mayor Cox	Welcome, Bonnie.
00:35:40.69	Unknown	going to mute yourself.
00:35:43.24	Bonnie McGregor	Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, City Council and the Planning Commission.
00:35:48.18	Bonnie McGregor	The staff and the planning commission did their job and documented that the project does not comply with South's legal zoning.
00:35:54.93	Bonnie McGregor	or the laws.
00:35:56.28	Bonnie McGregor	And to say nothing else, I believe the gloves are off.
00:35:59.74	Bonnie McGregor	They've been,
00:36:00.62	Bonnie McGregor	The person behind this development has continuously demonstrated her disdain for Sausalito
00:36:05.48	Bonnie McGregor	with her insistence on destroying the character of our historical district
00:36:09.04	Bonnie McGregor	by pushing to be built in the middle of it a behemoth of an architecturally hideous apartment complex.
00:36:14.97	Bonnie McGregor	Even if it were attractive, it would destroy the property values of every property on Princeton Street, Berkeley South,
00:36:20.96	Bonnie McGregor	And probably all of those
00:36:22.96	Bonnie McGregor	on Harrison by blocking their videos due to its height as a 44 year resident in Sausalito. I'm requesting that the city council must follow through and reject the appeal now. Thank you.
00:36:36.30	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
00:36:38.12	Unknown	Next speaker is Jerry Spalter.
00:36:44.14	Jerry Spolter	Yes, my name is Jerry Spolter. My wife and I, Laurel, live in Sausalito and have been here for about 25 years. And at the last election, we were very, very active because it was so important to us to get the right people on the council that reflected our values. And one of our values is to keep this village as charming as it currently is. And this despicable project will do nothing but undermine what we have come to love every morning that we wake up and walk down to Bridgeway. So we are so happy that you are the representatives of us. You have worked hard. You've got an excellent staff. And we can't thank you enough to deny this appeal.
00:37:41.69	Mayor Cox	Thank you, Jerry. City Clerk. All right.
00:37:43.83	Unknown	Next speaker is Joan Saxton.
00:37:47.53	Mayor Cox	Welcome, Dr. Saxton.
00:37:57.51	Unknown	You can unmute yourself.
00:38:07.20	Unknown	All right.
00:38:10.85	Unknown	We'll go with Evan, Jane, Chris.
00:38:17.02	Evan Jane Chris	Hi, I'm Evan Jane Chris. My family has been in Sausalito since 1972.
00:38:25.78	Evan Jane Chris	And I would just like to reiterate what I have said in a previous meeting.
00:38:31.65	Evan Jane Chris	that I feel that
00:38:33.81	Evan Jane Chris	All of the research that you've all done on this project at on Bridgeway at 605 Bridgeway,
00:38:42.44	Evan Jane Chris	has shown that it's just really, it's not really feasible, it's just the wrong project for this particular part of town.
00:38:52.43	Evan Jane Chris	It would destroy our historic district, as others have said.
00:38:57.44	Evan Jane Chris	And it would set a terrible precedent for building in Sausalito.
00:39:03.29	Evan Jane Chris	So with that in mind, and also I want to just a nod to everyone who's worked so hard on this and all the support that we've gotten from Sausalito residents, and I feel that it's time to just talk.
00:39:19.17	Evan Jane Chris	shelve this project for good.
00:39:22.26	Evan Jane Chris	The other thing I'd like to comment on is I do think that a forensic audit
00:39:27.22	Evan Jane Chris	would...
00:39:28.37	Evan Jane Chris	be wise, it would indicate transparency, which is extremely important, especially in today's political environment.
00:39:36.98	Evan Jane Chris	We all deserve to know where our finances are
00:39:41.67	Evan Jane Chris	And we would like to reiterate that we
00:39:45.06	Evan Jane Chris	would like to have maintenance as a top priority, especially considering the influx that is coming.
00:39:52.32	Evan Jane Chris	with the mandated state housing.
00:39:56.35	Evan Jane Chris	We should be prepared. Thank you so much.
00:40:01.56	Unknown	Thank you. Next speaker is Lily Deschampis.
00:40:08.26	Lily Deschampis	Oh, I'm sorry.
00:40:13.95	Unknown	You can speak, Lily.
00:40:15.70	Lily Deschampis	Sorry, my mic was off. Can you hear me?
00:40:18.40	Unknown	Yes.
00:40:19.28	Lily Deschampis	Sorry. I'm a sixth generation Sausalito and my family has been involved in Sausalito since 1869. So that's quite a bit of time. And I have a question. If this building sees the light of day, knowing that it's not compliant with the Sausalito zoning, how is that fair in any way, shape or form to all the other multifamily homeowners who do rent and who have strived for years, decades, to rent to renters in Salcelito at fair prices in houses that do comply with zoning codes and all the regulations that they have to comply with to have owned homes and maintain them in Salcedo? And what kind of precedent would that set in that regards? That is my question. Thank you.
00:41:12.29	Unknown	And then we have Joan Saxton again.
00:41:20.40	Joan Saxton	Am I unmuted now?
00:41:22.01	Joan Saxton	You are welcome. Excellent.
00:41:25.63	Joan Saxton	Thank you. 43.
00:41:29.08	Joan Saxton	Pardon me?
00:41:30.61	Joan Saxton	Will you?
00:41:31.03	Mayor Cox	You delivered Councilmember Blaustein.
00:41:35.20	Maral Boyadijan	Thank you.
00:41:35.22	Joan Saxton	Sorry. Years ago.
00:41:37.84	Joan Saxton	Oh, okay.
00:41:39.86	Unknown	Thank you.
00:41:39.93	Joan Saxton	That was a good deed on my part.
00:41:39.98	Unknown	That was.
00:41:40.48	Maral Boyadijan	So.
00:41:43.79	Joan Saxton	um
00:41:45.56	Joan Saxton	43-year resident of...
00:41:48.40	Joan Saxton	Alexander Avenue.
00:41:50.07	Joan Saxton	Love every inch of Sausalito, especially our beautiful little downtown.
00:41:54.79	Joan Saxton	And I'm just adding my voice to the loud chorus of good folks who
00:42:02.32	Joan Saxton	are asking you, pleading with you to reject this developer's appeal for this project. Thank you very much.
00:42:09.95	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
00:42:12.28	Mayor Cox	And then here in the chambers, we have Ellie Gibbs.
00:42:24.28	Ellie Gibbs	Hi there. I wasn't going to speak, but I just was thinking, sitting there. We keep talking about historical. We keep talking about...
00:42:35.21	Ellie Gibbs	tourism in Sausalito. And I think about that most of the people in this room have traveled a lot in their lives. They've gone places.
00:42:46.14	Ellie Gibbs	And they kind of
00:42:48.29	Ellie Gibbs	when they go there, when they take their kids there.
00:42:51.39	Ellie Gibbs	They kind of expect to see the same
00:42:54.48	Ellie Gibbs	thing, the same feeling.
00:42:56.71	Ellie Gibbs	that maybe they saw when they came to Sausalito when they were kids.
00:43:01.69	Ellie Gibbs	And.
00:43:02.56	Ellie Gibbs	They bring their kids over the ferry.
00:43:04.54	Ellie Gibbs	And they're talking about all the charm and how sweet it is and blah, blah, blah. And then they see this monster. It's like...
00:43:11.07	Ellie Gibbs	Thank you.
00:43:11.73	Ellie Gibbs	That's just not it, guys. It's not it. Do you get it? Thanks.
00:43:17.74	Ellie Gibbs	Thank you.
00:43:17.80	Mayor Cox	Thank you. Ben Campbeller.
00:43:21.92	Ben Canberra	Welcome. Thank you. Madam Mayor, council members. My name is Ben Canberra. I'm a nine-year Sausalito resident. I actually wanted to talk about, kind of echoing others' points, the safety of getting to Sausalito. I also support the rejection of the new development, but I'm very concerned, as I'm sure many have observed, commuting to Sausalito every day. The Alexander Avenue corridor is incredibly dangerous for pedestrians, for bikers. This is an interesting jurisdictional issue. I am not a legal expert, a lawyer, but I am aware of the concern, which is that many hundreds, if not thousands, of tourists are walking from the Golden Gate Bridge to Sausalito on a daily basis within inches of cars and bikers. I don't think that we are doing enough currently to support the transition of those pedestrians to the city. I am aware that the Golden Gate Bridge District Board did approve this May a new safety plan for the corridor. It's a critical first step. Looking at Strava data alone, there are hundreds of people riding on this corridor daily, which are pushing pedestrians even further into a wall, which is incredibly dangerous. And I want to urge the council to explore ways of representing this issue to the bridge district, which I understand is a federal district. Right now,
00:44:52.64	Ben Canberra	There is the roads designed with a 12 foot wide freeway style lanes that encourage speeding. I rarely see speed enforced by any law enforcement for pedestrians. There are no dedicated sidewalks. What I am proposing to the council to champion, however you see fit, and I agree that I'm not a legal expert. I don't know how to proceed with this exactly, is to advocate for a physically separated gateway standard pedestrian walkway, which would be the centerpiece of a new design which means some kind of physical barrier to protect pedestrians physically separated gateway standard pedestrian walkway, which is which would be the centerpiece of a new design, which means some kind of physical barrier to protect pedestrians to improve tourism to the city. Thank you.
00:45:15.96	Unknown	question.
00:45:25.73	Unknown	Thank you. We do have one more person online, Joris Van Menz.
00:45:36.40	Joris Van Menz	I can't so can people hear me?
00:45:42.29	Joris Van Menz	Ebenice, can people hear me?
00:45:43.99	Unknown	Thank you.
00:45:44.01	Joris Van Menz	Thank you.
00:45:44.04	Unknown	Yes.
00:45:44.28	Joris Van Menz	I hear you.
00:45:44.33	Unknown	It's a good thing.
00:45:45.34	Joris Van Menz	Great. I wanted to quickly chime in. I heard the last comment and I very much agree. I am a...
00:45:51.74	Joris Van Menz	Socelito homeowner resident and live here with my my daughter and my wife and I wish that
00:45:59.41	Joris Van Menz	traffic throughout the town would be better speed enforced. Cars are driving way too fast. The infrastructure is not really enabling safety for pedestrians and cyclists. We cycle here every day with our daughter, so we'd love better enforcement of speed limits. About the project, I didn't realize we were talking about the project on Bridgeway today. It's not a perfect project, but I do really like that we're trying to build additional housing in Sausalito. We need more housing here. We need more people living here, not just tourists. And I'm excited to see at least some proposals here for additional housing. Thank you.
00:46:43.91	Unknown	Thank you.
00:46:46.07	Unknown	No more further public speakers.
00:46:47.57	Mayor Cox	All right, we will close the communications section. I'm going to go ahead and address a couple of things that were said. First of all, I want to let those who may have arrived after the beginning of the meeting
00:46:58.66	Mayor Cox	know that because our chambers are full, our parking lot is full, the police will not be ticketing in surrounding streets during the pendency of our meeting. So don't worry about being here and receiving a gift while you're here.
00:47:16.09	Mayor Cox	I wanted to comment on the city council chambers. Thank you, Sonia. We've already done some work. That's why you see, that's why the ceiling looks like it looks today. The work is going to be concluded during the month of August, which will include finishing the ceiling, lights, and the carpet. So when we return from our August break on September 2nd, you will see
00:47:42.17	Mayor Cox	a different chambers.
00:47:44.07	Mayor Cox	And then I wanted to address the 605 Bridgeway project. So thank you all for all of your comments this evening. Of course, we can't provide any response to you as a group until such time as this project shows up on our agenda. But I want you to know your voice absolutely counts. And I just wanted to clarify the background a little bit.
00:48:04.88	Mayor Cox	Years ago in 2021, the city filed a lengthy appeal opposing our RENA, our Regional Housing Needs Allocation Numbers, on several grounds. One, that they did not mitigate issues raised in the Bay Area 2050 EIR.
00:48:22.34	Mayor Cox	and two, that they included territory that is actually in the Golden Gate National Recreation Area and underwater when they were counting the area of Sausalito eligible for construction. So we raised these. We wrote a 50-page appeal that was summarily denied.
00:48:41.51	Mayor Cox	We are exploring with our neighboring municipalities a new methodology for allocating the RHNA numbers amongst the cities within the county so that towns, small towns such as Sausalito are not so overwhelmed with the required number of units to be built. we also thank you we also worked very hard to be sure that no area in Sausalito was overwhelmed with new development. So the housing element that we did adopt spread out the required 724 units throughout town so as not to overwhelm any one single area of town.
00:49:18.74	Mayor Cox	Notably, our housing element listed the 605 Bridgeway site for 29 units.
00:49:24.63	Mayor Cox	many more units are being proposed in the current project.
00:49:28.48	Mayor Cox	If at some point the owner of 605 Bridgeway listens to the voices of the Planning Commission and the residents of Sausalito and considers downsizing the proposed project to address the issues raised by the Planning Commission and by the architectural committee,
00:49:43.19	Mayor Cox	consultant Verplank, who provided some parameters that would be important to consider when designing a project to be built within our unique
00:49:50.28	Mayor Cox	historic district, then of course, we will want to give it due consideration. We are not opposed to new housing and new construction in Sausalito.
00:50:01.60	Mayor Cox	Mm-hmm.
00:50:01.97	Mayor Cox	We are absolutely pursuing a political solution on a parallel path. We have met with our local leaders, including Senator Mike McGuire, Assemblymember Damon Connolly, Supervisor Moulton Peters, and others to discuss the importance of revamping political.
00:50:18.09	Mayor Cox	the arena process as a whole we are also preparing a response that will be included in the audit of the housing element process presently being conducted by the state auditor's office and so we are not not sitting idly by we take we live here too and we were elected because we care about this city that's why we volunteer our time um to address many challenging projects so we appreciate your feedback. We take it seriously. I just wanted to provide a little bit more background of where we stand. So thank you all very much.
00:50:54.57	Mayor Cox	And the one other thing that I wanted to announce while you're all here is that
00:51:02.35	Mayor Cox	Please come to the police department's national night out on August 5. It will be held at the police department from 5 to 7 PM. We unfortunately will be in a city council meeting that evening at 5 PM, but please visit and meet our wonderful police department. Okay, and with that, that will conclude the communications portion of the agenda. And so we'll move on to the consent calendar.
00:51:29.45	Mayor Cox	We have items 3A through 3I on the consent calendar. We have already removed item 3C, which will be heard as item 5D this evening. We are also removing altogether item 3I.
00:51:46.33	Mayor Cox	Although we will, of course, still take public comment on that item. So the items, thank you, everybody.
00:51:53.06	Mayor Cox	The items to be considered are adopt the meeting minutes of June 17 2025 adopter resolution authorizing the city manager to execute an agreement with MCC I for citywide records services. approve the. Sorry approval of a three year agreement with springbrook software for citywide financial information management system software services in the amount of 168.
00:52:17.13	Mayor Cox	$1,203.21
00:52:20.38	Mayor Cox	Receive and file the tri-annual update to BCDC's Enforcement Committee.
00:52:25.24	Mayor Cox	Authorized staff to proceed with soliciting for construction bid process for the Dunphy park improvement phase two project.
00:52:31.55	Mayor Cox	Adopt a resolution approving the Downtown Sausalito Business Improvement District Association budget for fiscal year 2526.
00:52:41.38	Mayor Cox	receive the Sausalito.
00:52:43.50	Mayor Cox	Police Department's Crime and Traffic Report, calendar year 2025, second quarter year to date report.
00:52:50.18	Mayor Cox	Any questions on consent items? All right, I'll open it up to public comment on items.
00:52:58.07	Mayor Cox	3A through 3A.
00:53:02.42	Mayor Cox	B and 3D through 3I. I have two speaker cards. The first is Sophia Collier.
00:53:10.43	Mayor Cox	Oh, but Sophia, the 3C is going to be heard as 5D at the end of our business items. And that's the same for Jan Johnson.
00:53:21.37	Unknown	We do have Sandra Bushmaker online.
00:53:25.01	Mayor Cox	Welcome, Sandra.
00:53:26.28	Mayor Cox	Oh.
00:53:26.74	Unknown	she
00:53:27.97	Mayor Cox	Yeah.
00:53:28.88	Mayor Cox	I think she's here for 3C as well. Guys, do you want to hear 3C as 5A?
00:53:36.07	Mayor Cox	No. Since we have three people here? No. That want to talk to it?
00:53:38.14	Councilmember Hoffman	No.
00:53:39.93	Councilmember Hoffman	know.
00:53:39.98	Mayor Cox	So.
00:53:40.29	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
00:53:40.51	Mayor Cox	What do you think?
00:53:41.45	Councilmember Hoffman	No.
00:53:42.03	Councilmember Hoffman	because we've already told people
00:53:43.29	Councilmember Hoffman	We've already told people we're gonna hear the roads is 5A.
00:53:46.82	Cassie	I defer to you, whatever, yeah, whatever, whatever you want to do. Same.
00:53:50.24	Mayor Cox	No, I'm going to, so I move that we move 3C instead of being 5D, it will be a new 5A. I oppose that.
00:53:58.97	Councilmember Hoffman	We can't keep moving. Is there a second?
00:54:02.55	Councilmember Hoffman	I mean, we can't keep moving our schedules around.
00:54:05.38	Mayor Cox	Okay, so there's a motion and a second. Any other discussion?
00:54:12.06	Mayor Cox	City clerk, please call roll.
00:54:13.58	Unknown	Council Member Blaustein.
00:54:14.93	Mayor Cox	Yes.
00:54:15.91	Unknown	Councilmember Hoffman.
00:54:16.89	Mayor Cox	No.
00:54:17.95	Unknown	Councilmember Sobieski, Vice Mayor Woodside. Yes. And Mayor Cox.
00:54:21.01	Mayor Cox	it.
00:54:22.54	Mayor Cox	Yes, that motion carries 4-1. And so item 3C will be heard as our first business item this evening to accommodate those who wanted to have public comment.
00:54:33.63	Councilmember Hoffman	Mayor, I'm going to request that 5G also be removed since we're talking about this. We might as well go in.
00:54:38.71	Councilmember Hoffman	What is it, 5G? Sorry, 3G. I had already...
00:54:43.91	Councilmember Hoffman	3G, the business improvement district. So since we're talking about this, I don't know where you wanna put it.
00:54:47.87	Mayor Cox	All right, I'm going to put 3G as 5D. That's fine.
00:54:51.91	Mayor Cox	That's actually the new 5F.
00:54:53.96	Mayor Cox	Okay. Any other public comment on the consent calendar? City Clerk.
00:54:59.80	Unknown	See you then.
00:55:00.58	Mayor Cox	All right, I'm going to close public comment on the...
00:55:03.01	Mayor Cox	consent calendar I'll entertain a motion approving items 3a 3b and 3d through 3h sorry 3d 3e 3f and 3h so moved
00:55:18.30	Mayor Cox	Is there a second?
00:55:20.19	Vice Mayor Woodside	I'll second it.
00:55:21.28	Mayor Cox	All right, city clerk, please call roll.
00:55:26.21	Unknown	Councilmember Blasting.
00:55:27.31	Mayor Cox	Yes.
00:55:27.68	Councilmember Hoffman	Thank you.
00:55:28.20	Unknown	Councilmember Hoffman?
00:55:30.45	Councilmember Hoffman	Thank you.
00:55:30.46	Mayor Cox	Yes.
00:55:30.85	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
00:55:31.63	Unknown	Councilmember Sobieski, Vice Mayor Woodside? Yes. And Mayor Cox.
00:55:36.64	Mayor Cox	Yes, that motion carries unanimously. Okay, we'll now move on to item 5A, which is the old item...
00:55:43.83	Mayor Cox	3C, approve the SB79 correspondence to Senator Weiner, offering to remove objection if historic district exemption is added to the bill.
00:55:53.26	Mayor Cox	So the reason that I removed this from the consent calendar is that since this item was posted,
00:56:00.37	Mayor Cox	um,
00:56:01.30	Mayor Cox	We learned today through Councilmember Hoffman and Nancy Hall Bennett that there have been various additional revisions to SB 79. We don't yet know what those revisions are. The schedule for it to be heard internally through the process.
00:56:21.29	Mayor Cox	has changed as well. And so with that, I feel as though there's not enough information out there to necessarily...
00:56:33.56	Mayor Cox	take a position we have previously already taken an opposed position so that's my reason for pulling it for discussion um
00:56:44.34	Mayor Cox	Are there any questions of anyone? Otherwise, I'm going to open it to public comment, and then we can discuss it.
00:56:48.85	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
00:56:48.86	Councilmember Hoffman	Sure, I have some additional information. I support that.
00:56:51.45	Mayor Cox	by the mayor if anybody...
00:56:54.03	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
00:56:54.05	Councilmember Hoffman	if the council members want some additional.
00:56:56.39	Cassie	I would love additional info, but I wanted us to have a chance to discuss it as well.
00:56:58.18	Councilmember Hoffman	of a job.
00:56:59.36	Mayor Cox	So this is sort of the staff report, because staff doesn't know what's going on with this. So this is going to serve as a staff report. Then I'll open it up to public comment, and then we'll have discussion.
00:57:04.68	Cassie	I don't know.
00:57:09.20	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
00:57:09.25	Councilmember Hoffman	Thank you.
00:57:09.27	Unknown	Okay.
00:57:09.61	Councilmember Hoffman	So the information that I received from our lobbyist in the state capitol is that the author agreed to take about 25 amendments last week, that these amendments are not in print, so we don't know what the amendments are. And so that it has not been to Assemblymember Connolly's committee. It did not go through his committee. And that, so there's no way for us to review the current status of the bill at this point. Nobody knows what's in it at this point. And so that's why the recommendation is that the most prudent course is to not submit a letter at this point, that we need to see what's in the bill before we take action.
00:58:04.48	Mayor Cox	Thank you. All right. With that, I'll open it up to public comment. I have a couple of speaker cards here. Jan Johnson.
00:58:17.41	Mayor Cox	Jan, can someone let Sophia, she's outside, can someone let her know that we're taking public comment on 3C right now?
00:58:24.73	Mayor Cox	I'm very happy.
00:58:25.26	Jan Johnson	Thank you very much. I had two issues with the letter that was supposedly already sent.
00:58:32.93	Jan Johnson	Thank you.
00:58:32.98	Mayor Cox	It was not sent. It's a draft letter for council consideration.
00:58:35.43	Jan Johnson	No, it wasn't sent.
00:58:35.45	Mayor Cox	Right.
00:58:36.55	Mayor Cox	No, it was not sent.
00:58:36.85	Jan Johnson	was not that.
00:58:38.28	Jan Johnson	withdraw that objection because it seemed like approving something after the fact was a little bit squirrely.
00:58:43.95	Unknown	and the other.
00:58:45.52	Jan Johnson	As I understand it, SB 79
00:58:49.59	Jan Johnson	applies to our bus stops and to our ferry terminal as a TOD tier three. If that's the case, a quarter mile from all those bus stops puts 75% of the town at risk of 55 foot heights and 80 units per square per acre.
00:59:09.67	Jan Johnson	And the half mile distance from the bus stops and the tremor puts 100% of Sausalito at risk of 44 feet and 60 units per acre.
00:59:21.28	Jan Johnson	if it passes, it will devastate town and we will become North Beach. So please do everything you can to oppose it to the last ounce of energy. Thank you.
00:59:37.46	Unknown	Thank you.
00:59:37.94	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
00:59:41.33	Mayor Cox	Sophia Collier.
00:59:42.81	Mayor Cox	And then I have
00:59:45.99	Mayor Cox	I understand that there are others, but I don't, those are all the speaker cards I have. Sandra Bushmaker was online as well.
00:59:52.16	Mayor Cox	But
00:59:52.80	Mayor Cox	I understand that also
00:59:58.42	Mayor Cox	Uh,
01:00:00.30	Mayor Cox	Mike and Loretta Rogers.
01:00:02.98	Mayor Cox	So they will go next.
01:00:05.05	Sophia Collier	Thank you.
01:00:05.07	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
01:00:05.09	Sophia Collier	Go ahead, Sophia. Okay, I have a slightly different take than the last speaker. And although I do support every single thing she said,
01:00:12.16	Sophia Collier	The fact of the matter is that
01:00:14.55	Sophia Collier	If this does, it's likely to pass.
01:00:17.44	Sophia Collier	So I feel like since SB 79 is likely to pass...
01:00:22.57	Sophia Collier	Therefore, we need to make sure that we seek to amend it
01:00:26.08	Sophia Collier	so that it protects our historic district.
01:00:28.53	Sophia Collier	I mean, we just had a lot of discussion about our historic district and its importance to us.
01:00:33.03	Sophia Collier	how grievous it would be to work out some resolution on that current project and then have, by right, 55 feet buildings being built throughout the district. So I really think that we should seek an amendment that protects the historic district. And because of our unique status as one of 12, we have the ability to say, hey, dear Scott Wiener and friends, let us protect these treasured districts and let us protect Sausalito in this small area that we have, this tiny area that we have. So I feel like we definitely need to make a strong statement and we definitely need to seek the amendment. And we should, we can, if people say, well, maybe they don't want to support it, we could go to a position of not oppose.
01:01:21.94	Sophia Collier	it.
01:01:23.02	Mayor Cox	That is how the letter is drafted.
01:01:24.47	Sophia Collier	Yeah.
01:01:24.79	Sophia Collier	says that we
01:01:26.36	Sophia Collier	will withdraw our opposition if they add that provision. Right, and that to me, like, that's not a...
01:01:31.71	Sophia Collier	It's not like we're jumping forward and supporting it. So.
01:01:36.43	Sophia Collier	Thank you.
01:01:38.05	Mayor Cox	All right, I'm going to call Mike Rogers.
01:01:44.65	Mike Rogers	I believe that to clarify that they want to speak on item what was 5C and I believe is now 5A.
01:01:50.93	Mayor Cox	Got it.
01:01:52.50	Mayor Cox	Okay. All right. Okay. We'll be taking that up soon. All right. Let's go to online. Anybody online city clerk?
01:02:01.98	Unknown	Babette McDougal.
01:02:05.22	Babette McDougall	Well, I'm a little confused about the order of things now, too. But let me just say generally again, I'd like to emphasize that whether we're talking about the SB 79, which is just the current assault. And I'm glad to know that everyone's paying attention because this whole thing about transit oriented communities on top of these punitive housing elements. And I don't know if anybody ever looked up the denial, the summary denial of Sausalito's appeal, but it was all done by form letters generated by MTC. So there you go. That was the big nasty win that blew it down. So I just think it's time for us to stand up and push back
01:02:48.37	Babette McDougall	Because the reality is none of us want to let go of the unique charm of this town.
01:02:52.98	Babette McDougall	And as someone pointed out, you are the guard.
01:02:56.86	Babette McDougall	So we have to rely on you to represent us.
01:03:01.89	Babette McDougall	I just want you to remember that, that we have to stand together. We have to stop this infighting and we have to stand together.
01:03:11.24	Babette McDougall	We'll have a lot to celebrate if we do. Thank you. I yield back my time.
01:03:17.83	Unknown	Next speaker is Senator Bushmaker.
01:03:23.77	Sandra Bushmaker	Hello, counsel.
01:03:24.92	Sandra Bushmaker	I was very happy to see Sausalito send an SB 79
01:03:28.74	Sandra Bushmaker	uh,
01:03:29.63	Sandra Bushmaker	objection to the entire bill.
01:03:33.17	Sandra Bushmaker	I was very disturbed to see that there is a
01:03:37.88	Sandra Bushmaker	will not object if you...
01:03:41.38	Sandra Bushmaker	exclude the historic district. I want to protect the historic district, but this is not the vehicle to do it.
01:03:48.85	Sandra Bushmaker	SB 79 is a very dangerous bill. I had a meeting recently with a bunch of civic leaders throughout California, and they are all sending very strong opposition letters, and they expressed to me a concern about
01:04:03.65	Sandra Bushmaker	amend and gut the bill so that we have a
01:04:07.67	Sandra Bushmaker	uh,
01:04:08.64	Sandra Bushmaker	Bill that is far worse than the existing SB 79. I think we need to be very, very strong in opposition to SB 79 and not flip flop or get wishy washy by saying, well, we'll withdraw our objection if you do this.
01:04:25.32	Sandra Bushmaker	Now, like I said, I support the retention of the historic district. I just am afraid, given the Sacramento temperament with regard to housing.
01:04:37.67	Sandra Bushmaker	And by the way, my understanding this is going to appropriations, who is led by Buffy Wicks.
01:04:44.72	Sandra Bushmaker	who is a very big proponent of housing anywhere and everywhere. And I think we need to be very, very careful. So I don't think we should have a wishy-washy
01:04:55.46	Sandra Bushmaker	I think we need a strong, strong opposition to SB 79.
01:05:01.07	Sandra Bushmaker	and it does apply to areas other than the ferry landing
01:05:04.82	Sandra Bushmaker	It applies to bus stops.
01:05:06.81	Sandra Bushmaker	that have certain recognition, certain designation, which can be at a flip of the switch,
01:05:06.97	Unknown	that have
01:05:12.03	Sandra Bushmaker	implemented by a state agency. So strong SB 79 opposition, please. Thank you.
01:05:22.95	Unknown	George Von Mess.
01:05:31.01	Unknown	or your respondents.
01:05:34.45	Unknown	and speak.
01:05:35.86	Mayor Cox	Is he?
01:05:36.02	Unknown	on mute.
01:05:36.43	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
01:05:36.45	Unknown	Thank you.
01:05:38.35	Joris Van Menz	I believe I'm unmuted now.
01:05:41.34	Unknown	Yes, we hear you.
01:05:42.61	Joris Van Menz	Thank you, City Council. With full respect to all opinions being shared here, I personally believe SB 79 is a great initiative. I think we need a lot more housing throughout California, and I think we can also play a role there. That being said, I understand the issue at hand here is whether to retract our letter of objection by requesting that the historic district is excluded. I think that is a great middle ground, and I support that initiative. Thank you.
01:05:42.67	Unknown	Thank you, Cedric.
01:06:12.27	Joris Van Menz	Thank you.
01:06:12.30	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
01:06:13.97	Unknown	No more further public speakers.
01:06:15.28	Mayor Cox	All right, I'll close public comment on this item and bring it up here for discussion.
01:06:19.75	Mayor Cox	A number of people said they think we should oppose. We already strongly opposed SB 79. This is a follow-up letter that was requested by members of the, by various residents. And so it is here for consideration. And so who would like to lead off?
01:06:38.95	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
01:06:40.82	Mayor Cox	counts.
01:06:40.97	Councilmember Hoffman	Member Hoffman.
01:06:42.43	Councilmember Hoffman	Sure. I'm happy to. I would suggest that...
01:06:46.81	Councilmember Hoffman	that we wait and see what the amendments are and that we can follow the process that we've already followed and we'll do an update to the memo for the next city council meeting. If there's a printed draft of what the amendments are,
01:07:04.16	Councilmember Hoffman	And
01:07:05.11	Councilmember Hoffman	what the 25 amendments have been so that we can see what the new draft of the bill is and then decide at that point.
01:07:13.51	Councilmember Hoffman	if we still want to go forward. I mean, it may be that...
01:07:16.82	Councilmember Hoffman	There's no need to do.
01:07:18.42	Councilmember Hoffman	a letter.
01:07:19.50	Councilmember Hoffman	You know, fingers crossed. You never know. So that would be my suggestion for our course of action.
01:07:27.43	Cassie	Yeah, I appreciate that. And I understand that the bill is in process. And as such, I just don't want us to miss an opportunity.
01:07:36.22	Cassie	throughout this process to be able to make a request for the bill
01:07:39.48	Cassie	As much as folks are concerned about the
01:07:42.45	Cassie	Amanda Solliday, she is a part of the community that we have a community that we absolutely need more housing in particular housing for the people serving our community housing for seniors and. Amanda Solliday, she is a part of the community that we have a community that we absolutely need more housing in particular housing for the people serving our community housing for seniors and.
01:07:56.88	Cassie	We're unlikely to not see the passage of SB 79. If you review voting records on other contentious housing bills to which there were aggressive opposition letters from the League of Cities and from cities like
01:08:07.59	Cassie	Sausalito, for example,
01:08:09.30	Cassie	SB 423, where there was a 61 yes, 8 no vote, and SB 9, where there was a 45 yes and 19 no vote. The likelihood of this bill moving forward is very strong because housing is needed. It's a
01:08:25.26	Cassie	be as we have through our comprehensive has moment thinking about talking about and building around to create a community that
01:08:30.98	Cassie	allows us to maintain our historic district while embracing housing opportunities and so the reason
01:08:36.25	Cassie	I think it's important to request this amendment in the context of that.
01:08:39.57	Cassie	is so that we don't lose any chance to weigh in on this bill and any chance to
01:08:44.53	Cassie	Also.
01:08:45.53	Cassie	Uh,
01:08:46.15	Cassie	really emphasize our historic district, we just heard 40 plus comments from people saying how important it is to maintain our historic district, and I think that a lot of our community cares deeply about both housing and historic district and requesting this amendment would.
01:08:58.88	Cassie	at least show that we are a community that embraces housing and
01:09:03.32	Cassie	Embraces our rich character so that's that's my and I would I would meet halfway on. I mean I don't know what the timeline is for the amendments and I would potentially consider we reach out to the resources committee or appropriations committee and request to see those amendments or reach out to.
01:09:18.69	Cassie	Assemblymember Haney, Assemblymember Wicks, who co-chair those
01:09:22.11	Cassie	Mason.
01:09:22.94	Cassie	um,
01:09:23.41	Cassie	But I just think if we miss the opportunity entirely and the bill passes and we haven't weighed in knowing that this was an amendment we could have requested or supported.
01:09:31.09	Cassie	we'd be missing that chance.
01:09:35.01	Mayor Cox	Thank you. Vice mayor or council member?
01:09:41.05	Vice Mayor Woodside	Sure, I'll just speak up a little bit. I think tonight, since we don't know the full extent of the amendments that apparently are extensive,
01:09:49.54	Vice Mayor Woodside	It's hard to come to a conclusion, but I am intrigued by the possibility
01:09:54.06	Vice Mayor Woodside	that we might succeed, even though we're a small city,
01:09:57.60	Vice Mayor Woodside	in achieving an amendment that could help protect the historic district. And if that's an opportunity, I'd like us to seriously consider it, because I think it may be our only chance. The juggernaut in Sacramento is strong. These bills, as we know, impose great burdens on our small communities, things that we don't like. But one in particular, and we heard a lot tonight is how do we protect the historic district? And this may be a small opportunity.
01:10:30.59	Vice Mayor Woodside	to do so. And if so, I think we should consider it seriously when we're more fully aware of what else is in the bill.
01:10:40.72	Unknown	Thank you, councilman.
01:10:42.02	Councilman Sobey	Yeah, I think my colleagues know how I feel about it. I love our little historic district. It's unique and charming and special and it can be devastated by projects that are out of scale and architecturally don't fit in.
01:10:55.64	Councilman Sobey	But I just, since we have an audience of people that care, I just want to emphasize that this whole thing with the housing element and these pressures from Sacramento is like squeezing a balloon. If you squeeze it in one place, it pops up somewhere else. So...
01:11:09.49	Councilman Sobey	The reality is we have literally empty lots along Bridgeway, north in the north part of town. And because we are justifiably concerned about things and squeeze the balloon there, it popped up somewhere else. So we have to be wise as a community. And so I support whatever my colleagues in the community want to do in terms of the tactics to win the battle to save.
01:11:30.97	Councilman Sobey	the character, integrity of the historic
01:11:34.01	Councilman Sobey	town, but this is going to be one battle of a war. And the goal is to preserve the culture of Sausalito while also accommodating the housing demands from Sacramento. And if we're blind to that,
01:11:45.45	Councilman Sobey	We're going to lose the war, even if we win a battle here or there.
01:11:49.01	Councilman Sobey	When you look at literally empty lots right next to a four-lane road in town,
01:11:53.97	Councilman Sobey	and say that we can't build there.
01:11:55.88	Councilman Sobey	it's going to crop up somewhere else. So I would encourage us to think strategically as well as tactically.
01:12:02.14	Cassie	Is there a way, just because I really, I mean, Councilman Hoffman is the president of the North Bay Council League of Cities, so she is
01:12:09.53	Cassie	very much in tune to what's going on. I'm wondering if there's a way given the League of Cities
01:12:14.73	Cassie	objection to the bill.
01:12:16.84	Cassie	that we might request the amendment without taking a position or if you have a timeline through which we would be able to at the very least ensure that our request is in some way reviewed like i'd like us to get to consensus on this in a positive way.
01:12:29.17	Councilmember Hoffman	Well, I think the first thing, the first step is to see what the new, obviously to see what the new amendments say. So that's number one, like you would want to see before you engage with anybody, especially waste the time of our representatives, our elected representatives, you have to be knowledgeable about what the amendments say. So that's number one. And I was in touch, as I said today, with our, with our representative in Sacramento and that's how I received the information. So,
01:12:57.81	Councilmember Hoffman	As soon as that's printed, we'll have that.
01:13:00.81	Councilmember Hoffman	And I'll pass that along to the rest of the council members.
01:13:04.51	Councilmember Hoffman	That's typically how you would proceed. And then we would look at that and talk about what the strategy would be going forward. But, you know, you would want to use your engagement at the moment when you have the most leverage. Now is not the time or the moment when we have the most leverage, particularly when you don't know what's in the amendments. So the strategy at this point is wait and see what's in the amendments and then see how we want to proceed going forward. I don't know.
01:13:33.97	Councilmember Hoffman	There would be no, I don't think, pathway where you would request amendment without still objecting. I don't know what pathway that would be.
01:13:46.28	Councilmember Hoffman	But I'm hearing what you're saying. I'm trying to understand what a strategy or how you might go with that. But, you know, and I'm thinking also, you know, Councilmember Sobey, as his point,
01:14:01.09	Councilmember Hoffman	as always, we do still have the rest of town.
01:14:04.31	Councilmember Hoffman	that we have to think about and protect and think about how this bill affects the rest of town and how it might impact.
01:14:11.30	Councilmember Hoffman	every place else in town. So we wouldn't want to do anything with a request for an amendment that would negatively impact
01:14:18.96	Councilmember Hoffman	every place else in town, and that's why we need to see what else, what other amendments were made to the bill that we haven't seen yet. So that's why we wouldn't want to take any action tonight without understanding and knowing what's in the amendment. So that's why the course of action I would suggest is what we've already talked about, which is not moving forward at this point. As soon as we get the amendments, my understanding is they're up to this point, there have been a lot of amendments to this bill. Since it's been in the assembly, I expect there will be a lot more amendments before it goes back to the Senate. And then it will go to the governor for signature. So we'll see in that intervening time period, it goes back to the full assembly
01:15:07.06	Councilmember Hoffman	and it may have more amendments at that point.
01:15:10.40	Councilmember Hoffman	You know, the strategy is if we have a suggestion for an amendment, when do we do that?
01:15:18.14	Councilmember Hoffman	at the point where we might actually get the amendment.
01:15:22.23	Councilmember Hoffman	And so that's what we would want to wait for.
01:15:26.02	Cassie	Do you know what committee it goes to next?
01:15:28.57	Cassie	Thank you.
01:15:28.59	Councilmember Hoffman	I'm sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt.
01:15:29.62	Cassie	appropriate.
01:15:29.97	Mayor Cox	Creations, I think.
01:15:31.32	Councilmember Hoffman	I don't know that it is.
01:15:33.11	Mayor Cox	I just looked online and it said appropriations, but I think the answer is we don't know for sure. Yeah.
01:15:38.65	Councilmember Hoffman	So that's what I'm keeping my eye on. I'll keep you guys informed.
01:15:41.97	Councilmember Hoffman	I'm not going to be able to
01:15:42.27	Mayor Cox	Councilmember Sobias.
01:15:42.98	Councilman Sobey	I just wanted there was one thought I wanted I forgot to mention to complete round out my thought just because there's so many members of the community here. There's a little provision in that bill, which I don't like the bill, but it has a provision, allegedly because of this concern about historic districts that if the town can get around to, in our case, our historic district is 17 acres of finding 17 other acres in town.
01:15:43.00	Mayor Cox	Yeah.
01:15:43.37	Councilmember Hoffman	THE FAMILY.
01:15:43.56	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
01:16:06.52	Councilman Sobey	there would be no building necessary in the historic district. So in other words, you find another 17 acres in town, you can avoid any impacts of this district, but practically speaking,
01:16:15.76	Councilman Sobey	We know in this town and pretty much any small town how hard that is, practically speaking. But some of those tools are at our disposal if we could be nimble, like life's...
01:16:25.71	Councilman Sobey	I just live here and I'm trying to help. It's about making tough choices. If you wanted to save the historic district, even in this bill, even if it passed, you could do it if you could do a hurry up process of building somewhere else in town, empty fields or places that RVs are stored.
01:16:40.14	Councilman Sobey	And then we could save parts of our historic district. So I say that only because
01:16:44.80	Councilman Sobey	If push comes to shove and we ever wanted to do something like that, you know what would end up happening.
01:16:49.59	Councilmember Hoffman	Which is an interesting point, and back to my point of
01:16:53.13	Councilmember Hoffman	Um,
01:16:53.91	Councilmember Hoffman	We represent all of Sausalito and making sure impacts are spread throughout town and don't just fall on one side of town or the other. And don't shift impacts from one side of town or one district to another side of Sausalito. And so I'm not even sure that that provision is still in the bill.
01:17:11.78	Councilmember Hoffman	So we don't just automatically shift impacts from one district to another, at least I hope that we don't.
01:17:11.97	Unknown	.
01:17:17.45	Councilman Sobey	Yeah, but that is, of course, the point is whether you do that as a negative impact.
01:17:18.65	Councilmember Hoffman	is whether you do that as a negative factor.
01:17:20.67	Mayor Cox	So if you want to speak, raise your hand. I'll call on you. Thank you so much.
01:17:24.60	Councilman Sobey	America.
01:17:25.63	Councilman Sobey	And.
01:17:25.67	Mayor Cox	interruption.
01:17:25.80	Councilman Sobey	You're right. Yes, go ahead. Indeed, but that's of course, if you view all housing as negative in the historic district, the big building devastates the historic district.
01:17:34.75	Councilman Sobey	In other areas of town, it could create a vibrant community. And so the details matter. And in fact, even in the historic district, something modest in scale or fitting in somehow is...
01:17:45.50	Councilman Sobey	could actually work. And so that's why, you know, this
01:17:49.21	Councilman Sobey	question as a community of trying to actually win the war of accepting what's being pushed on us, but doing our own Sausalito creative magic of making it work for our community has got to be the strategic goal. If housing is just an evil that needs to be fought everywhere, it's going to be squeezing that balloon and it's going to pop up somewhere else. So I know we're a little far from the letter, but I do feel like it's relevant if we're talking about what our what our strategy is in regards to the letter, you know, we could accommodate housing and build beautiful neighborhoods that would enliven our community in some parts of town, but the historic district is fully built out.
01:18:25.39	Mayor Cox	Okay, I'm gonna go ahead and call the question.
01:18:27.48	Mayor Cox	Um,
01:18:29.54	Mayor Cox	I am in favor of postponing the decision on this until August 5 when we have, because we have another meeting. I don't think it's going to get through committee in two weeks, and in that way we'll have full information. So that's my motion.
01:18:46.04	Mayor Cox	Second.
01:18:47.97	Mayor Cox	Is it an alternative motion? Okay, call the roll.
01:18:53.15	Unknown	Thank you.
01:18:53.54	Unknown	Councilman Blassey?
01:18:54.82	Mayor Cox	I abstain.
01:18:56.51	Unknown	Councilmember Hoffman.
01:18:57.96	Councilmember Hoffman	Yes.
01:18:58.28	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
01:18:59.07	Unknown	Councilmember Sobieski.
01:19:01.81	Unknown	Vice Mayor Woodside? Yes. And Mayor Cox.
01:19:05.64	Mayor Cox	Yes, that motion carries 4-1. Okay, with that, we'll... 4 within abstention.
01:19:10.83	Mayor Cox	For one with one, it's abstention. With that, we will move on to business items.
01:19:18.78	Mayor Cox	Pursuant to the change we made earlier, the first business item we will hear is 5C, authorize staff to proceed with soliciting for construction bids for the 2024 roadway rehabilitation project for an engineer's estimate of...
01:19:34.51	Mayor Cox	1.86 million.
01:19:37.72	Mayor Cox	Welcome Kevin McGowan.
01:19:43.30	Kevin McGowan	Good evening, Mayor. Public Works Director. Good evening. Welcome. Sorry, we opened the other room next door and it just took me a second to get over here.
01:19:51.13	Councilmember Hoffman	I'm sorry, Mayor. I have, I do have one, I have a disclosure to make. I do have property that's near, actually, I think it's, it has to do with all three of our business items tonight. I have property, however, let's see, I thought I had it written down.
01:19:51.16	Kevin McGowan	I'm sorry.
01:20:13.44	Mayor Cox	Is a property near one of the roads recommended for rehabilitation? I do.
01:20:14.79	Councilmember Hoffman	Yeah.
01:20:16.09	Councilmember Hoffman	I do.
01:20:16.97	Councilmember Hoffman	Thank you.
01:20:16.98	Mayor Cox	So, city attorney, would that not be within the public generally as opposed to an item that would require recusal?
01:20:23.28	Councilmember Hoffman	Yes.
01:20:27.23	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
01:20:27.34	City Attorney Rudin	So we have a couple exceptions that potentially could apply for some of these items, for example, the AB413 item, where if it affects more than 25% of residential real property or commercial real property,
01:20:27.36	Mayor Cox	So,
01:20:44.32	City Attorney Rudin	the public general exception does apply. There is specifically also an exception
01:20:49.47	City Attorney Rudin	exception where the decision concerns repairs, replacement or maintenance of existing streets, water, sewer, storm drainage or similar facilities, which would apply to this particular item.
01:21:04.96	Councilmember Hoffman	And so I'm relying on our city attorney, and I'm not recusing for these items. Thank you.
01:21:09.04	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
01:21:09.38	Councilmember Hoffman	Thank you.
01:21:10.04	Mayor Cox	And thank you for that, for raising that. That's a very valid discussion.
01:21:15.32	Kevin McGowan	I'm going to go.
01:21:15.37	Mayor Cox	Alright.
01:21:15.51	Kevin McGowan	Proceed.
01:21:17.01	Kevin McGowan	Thank you so much. I apologize. I wanted to have a tie this evening, but I forgot one at home. So my apologies. It's not as professional as I would like to be. And then in addition, Mr. Ali Iqbal, one of our project managers, helped me with the slide presentation. But I'm going to take over at this point because there might be some little nuances that I will present. So next slide, please.
01:21:41.53	Kevin McGowan	So on November 19th, 2024, your council approved the 2024 roadway resurfacing project. It had a full list of roads, which are here. On this list, we have removed two of them, which is the end of Locust Street and Easterby on the list itself. Now, I'm going to go over those, and we'll talk about those fairly shortly. The project, this resurfacing project, was designed by a company out of Novato known as CSW Stuber Stroh. They're a local firm and they prepared most all of the documentation. Next slide, please.
01:22:16.22	Kevin McGowan	As you well know, and maybe some of us in the room do not, we have 26 miles of roads. And for the 2024 resurfacing project, we have four of those roads that get completely reconstructed or at least a portion of them. And 11 streets get a surface treatment, such as a micro seal or other treatments as well. The budget for that project is about $2.3 million, which includes soft costs and construction costs.
01:22:44.62	Kevin McGowan	This project is predominantly supported by Measure L funds, local funds, as well as the construction impact fees and Measure AA funds. Next slide.
01:22:56.94	Kevin McGowan	All right. In the last few weeks, council and members of the public have voiced concerns related to addressing complete streets, which is including bioretention areas, road diets, cool paving, and safety considerations for access. Many of these topics are covered in the preliminary design or the things that we look at initially kind of behind the scenes. However, staff has revisited the plan set and removed two streets, Easterby and Locust for identifying, um,
01:23:30.42	Kevin McGowan	for identifying options that include bioretention. We're going to review some of those shortly as well.
01:23:37.81	Kevin McGowan	Next slide.
01:23:39.55	Kevin McGowan	So what's Complete Streets?
01:23:41.56	Kevin McGowan	So complete streets is a concept that requires the design to review and examine many aspects of each roadway project.
01:23:50.37	Kevin McGowan	They include sustainability concerns, bicycle access, sidewalks, road diets, stormwater, and accessibility. While this project is primarily a maintenance project, there are opportunities on some of the streets that we are treating for this project. Next slide, please.
01:24:10.55	Kevin McGowan	our Sustainability Committee,
01:24:12.88	Kevin McGowan	Your council and members of the public indicated that we should be considering systems such as bioretention facilities, things called rainways, vegetated swales, road diets, and other systems when we consider roadway resurfacing. With each road, we do look at these and we take a look at the options. Engineers must also look at whether these systems can be built. So this is an important aspect. And whether they present an additional safety issue if they are installed.
01:24:44.11	Kevin McGowan	Other issues such as financial impact and utilities come into play as well. Next slide, please.
01:24:51.67	Kevin McGowan	So bioretention, bioretention.
01:24:54.49	Kevin McGowan	is intended to place stormwater back into the soil or sub base areas. This allows plants and vegetations to grow, reducing greenhouse gases and providing filtration areas for stormwater. However,
01:25:07.37	Kevin McGowan	Placing such a system on steep slopes, I think we have a few of those here, such as in Sausalito, could have unintended consequences, such as reducing slides or causing more subterranean water going through the system. That can be problematic. The best place to install such a facility is in the flatter portions of town, such as flatter portions in town where water can sit for a while and infiltrate the sub base without causing additional problems. Areas like flat open space or down towards the Bay Area are best suited for this.
01:25:45.51	Kevin McGowan	There is a cost implication for this as well. Installing these type of facilities can be obviously more expensive than just resurfacing. Next slide.
01:25:57.03	Kevin McGowan	So as I mentioned, some flatter areas of town are better suited for bioretention.
01:26:01.84	Kevin McGowan	And we have to take into account what's lurking underneath. For us, we have a lot of utilities, and we don't always know exactly where they are, so we have to make sure to coordinate with utilities. And also, there are other unintended consequences. Putting some of these bioretention areas in the roadway itself could, in fact, limit the geometry of some of the trucks or ambulances or garbage trucks that may be accessing throughout the area. So we have to study that a little bit to make sure that if we do install a bioretention system, that it doesn't encroach too far into the road and cause problems. Site distance and safety issues are also an issue, especially if you have vegetation that can be a little too tall. Next slide, please.
01:26:49.33	Kevin McGowan	All right. The end of locus was originally on the resurfacing list. There may be an opportunity to install a bioretention facility at this location. However,
01:26:58.91	Kevin McGowan	In order to do this, we'd have to remove some parking.
01:27:01.78	Kevin McGowan	And I don't think that's a favorable approach.
01:27:05.27	Kevin McGowan	DPW doesn't necessarily suggest doing that. Another alternative here could be to install
01:27:11.84	Kevin McGowan	a, uh,
01:27:12.98	Kevin McGowan	and small pavers, something where rainwater can infiltrate into the subbase on its own.
01:27:19.31	Kevin McGowan	These type of pavers that are shown on this slide have their own issues as well, such as they have to be consistently maintained so that there's not a tripping hazard for somebody getting out of their car. Another alternative could be pervious concrete, which tends to be very expensive. So we can look at those options, and we intend to. That's one of the reasons we pulled off the end of locus from the list, is to look at that. Next slide, please.
01:27:47.71	Kevin McGowan	Road diets. So it's not your normal diet where you don't just eat certain things. So this is a road diet. And the intent here is in some communities with wider roads and multiple lanes, roads can be reduced in lane width or even go as far as to remove an entire lane.
01:28:09.82	Kevin McGowan	This lets the community provide new systems such as bike lanes or, like we talked about, bioretention areas. This approach can reduce speeds for vehicles and has been discussed several times at the city's Pedestrian Bicycle Advisory Committee in years past. Sausalito has several wide roads that could be considered for a road diet. roadways such as Coloma, which we are looking at to put in new sidewalks because we have a grant down there. wide roads that could be considered for a road diet. Roadways such as Coloma, which we are looking at to put in new sidewalks because we have a grant down there as well to do so. Easterby, Locust, and Tourney have generally the same geometry. So a little bit of study may be needed there to take a look at where and whether a road diet can be used. The intent is not to reduce parking. We want to keep the number of parking as much as possible.
01:28:58.08	Kevin McGowan	Next slide, please.
01:29:01.19	Kevin McGowan	All right, let's take a look at Easterbee. So looking at Easterbee to be considered for a road diet, its general width all the way across from flow line of gutter to flow line of gutter is about 40 feet. It changes a little bit here and there, but about 40 feet.
01:29:16.81	Kevin McGowan	If a vehicle lane were reduced in some ways down to 10 feet instead of a normal 12 feet, we could possibly get another four feet out of the side of the road in order to install a bioretention area. Again, some of the street is fairly steep, and I would not recommend putting a bioretention on the upper slopes. Why? Because the water will just run off and it won't infiltrate. The areas closer to where it's flat may be considered.
01:29:44.64	Kevin McGowan	Keep in mind, we don't want to reduce parking at all, like I mentioned. And there are other things to study as well.
01:29:50.97	Mayor Cox	I'm going to interrupt.
01:29:51.91	Kevin McGowan	Thank you.
01:29:51.93	Mayor Cox	to you. I'm so sorry.
01:29:53.50	Mayor Cox	But based on the staff report, I had communications with D&D.
01:29:59.07	Mayor Cox	at least 40 residents telling them that we would not be considering
01:30:03.85	Mayor Cox	bioretention and road diets this evening for these streets, that that would be postponed to a subsequent item. So I just want to be clear, are you asking us to now evaluate bioretention, swales, and road diets this evening? Or is that something we will hear for certain streets at a later date?
01:30:25.02	Kevin McGowan	Meet.
01:30:25.41	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
01:30:25.95	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
01:30:26.03	Kevin McGowan	In previous council meetings, you asked us as staff to look at these issues.
01:30:31.98	Mayor Cox	for lot one. I don't recall ever asking you to look at these issues for the remaining streets in Sausalito. And I don't recall asking you to recommend adoption of a plan for road diets and bioretention ponds and other facilities without first hearing public comment. And that's why we have so many letters coming in to us.
01:30:59.03	Kevin McGowan	Yes.
01:30:59.53	Kevin McGowan	Well, thank you. That's kind. I'd appreciate it if I could get through the conversation or at least the presentation. Yeah. Can you just clarify what a road diet is for the public and not for others at this point in time? There's a lot of different items here that I wouldn't mind covering.
01:31:04.43	Unknown	Yeah.
01:31:07.33	Unknown	But are you asking us...
01:31:08.48	Lori Vault	IN THE CITY.
01:31:16.52	Mayor Cox	Can you just answer my question about whether you're asking us this evening to consider a road diet?
01:31:23.41	Mayor Cox	for
01:31:24.42	Mayor Cox	Easterby, Coloma, Turney, or whether you're asking us this evening to approve a bioretention, vegetated swales, rainways, or other facilities on any streets, or whether this evening you're simply asking us to approve resurfacing, because that is what I had understood, and that is what I communicated to at least 50 residents.
01:31:45.15	Kevin McGowan	Thank you.
01:31:45.26	Kevin McGowan	You are correct, Mayor. We are not asking to have any road diets or anything associated with that. We are simply asking to approve the list so that we can go out to bid. Great. Okay. With that, please continue. Why don't we move on then? Next slide, please.
01:32:03.34	Kevin McGowan	So I'm not too sure it's relevant to go through the rest of these at this point. So let's go keep going. Coolpave.
01:32:11.59	Kevin McGowan	Cool pavement was mentioned before. This is a material that can be placed on asphalt that reduce the heat imprint from paving. The idea is to reduce our greenhouse effect and reduce the amount of heat that comes off of each paved surface. Next slide, please.
01:32:31.27	Kevin McGowan	The idea was to place this on El Portal, and we do have a bid alternative to do so, and that goes in the bid package. Next slide, please.
01:32:43.63	Kevin McGowan	So as I've noted before, we want to study Easterby a little bit more and locust in order to determine whether a bioretention system can be installed. That's not necessary at this point. If the council wants to proceed with getting this road resurfacing done, we can put it in the package, get it bid, even put the asphalt down specifically and come back and put a bioretention facility in at a later point in time.
01:33:08.71	Kevin McGowan	Um,
01:33:11.24	Kevin McGowan	Like I mentioned before, there are other issues associated with the geometry, which need to be studied, but we'll get to that at a later point in time. Next slide.
01:33:22.30	Kevin McGowan	Thank you.
01:33:24.96	Kevin McGowan	Thank you.
01:33:24.98	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
01:33:27.81	Mayor Cox	Any questions of staff?
01:33:29.67	Councilmember Hoffman	I have a question.
01:33:32.10	Councilmember Hoffman	Thank you.
01:33:34.14	Councilmember Hoffman	Kevin.
01:33:34.95	Councilmember Hoffman	Thank you for your time this afternoon. And I had a follow-up question. We had talked briefly about, among other things, about the cool pavement and the cool surface surfacing. And we had talked a little bit about heat index, and I had emailed you a couple of maps, heat index maps.
01:33:57.72	Councilmember Hoffman	in, uh,
01:33:59.13	Councilmember Hoffman	And based on the heat index map that I had, that indicated there really wasn't much of a heat index or increased heat index for Sausalito, and your concerns about the surface of the product. Could you tell us a little bit about your concerns about the cool surface product?
01:34:21.46	Kevin McGowan	Thank you, Councilmember. Yes, as mentioned in the staff report, I do have concerns about a material that's placed on a roadway that hasn't been tested, at least through the Caltrans system. So my concerns relate to initially friction factors, making sure that a vehicle can stop on that surface, even if it's wet. In addition, I've found in years past that any type of surface material we put on a roadway...
01:34:45.15	Kevin McGowan	If it's not bonded correctly to the underlying asphalt, it'll unravel and that'll cause even more problems down the road. So I do have a concern of that. At this point, we are simply asking in the bid package to give us a price of what it would cost to do that. And we'd have to do a little bit more research associated with the product itself to make sure that it complies with state of California standards.
01:35:07.98	Councilmember Hoffman	Thank you.
01:35:08.64	Councilmember Hoffman	And I would like to ask that I could share my screen and that I did share this map. I emailed this map earlier today to Sarah.
01:35:20.05	Councilmember Hoffman	of course. Yeah. To Sarah and Kevin.
01:35:20.20	Adrienne Britton	Shit afford.
01:35:20.94	Morgan Pierce	Thank you.
01:35:27.07	Councilmember Hoffman	Thank you.
01:35:28.03	Joan Saxton	Thank you.
01:35:28.06	Councilmember Hoffman	Thank you.
01:35:28.33	Joan Saxton	Thank you.
01:35:30.56	Kevin McGowan	And yes, this product is usually used in very hot areas, New Mexico, Arizona.
01:35:39.67	Councilmember Hoffman	And so this is the EPA heat index map for
01:35:47.08	Councilmember Hoffman	for San Rafael, and you can see down here in the corner, this is Sausalito. So this is the heat index map, and you can see we're in the 0 to 10 range. There's no increase in the heat index at all for Sausalito. So there's no heat index increase at all for Sausalito. There's no indication, especially if we're talking about a tiny road, we're talking and we're and we're gonna I think it was brought up in the staff report also for the There's no indication, especially if we're talking about a tiny, you know, we're talking about a tiny road. And we're going to, I think it was brought up in the staff report also for the other item for the parking lot one. And so that's why I don't think it's, and we talked about that in our discussion. It's not really merited or warranted for this project or for the parking lot one.
01:36:28.76	Kevin McGowan	I'm seeing in our staff report, it hasn't been tested.
01:36:32.04	Kevin McGowan	Mayor Mrakas, M.D.: And so it was brought up to Council as an alternative material that can reduce heat in our area, but I agree with the documentation that you've provided there isn't much heat in this area anyway.
01:36:46.13	Councilmember Hoffman	And I would ask that this be attached to the staffer.
01:36:49.54	Councilmember Hoffman	Well, I attached to the agenda under this item so other people can see the heat index map, or at least the one that I found from the Cal EPA website.
01:36:59.02	Mayor Cox	Do you want to transfer it? Do you want to transmit it to the city clerk?
01:37:02.01	Councilmember Hoffman	Sure. Well, Sarah's got it. Yeah, I'm happy to do that.
01:37:04.76	Mayor Cox	To the city clerk. He's the one who attaches.
01:37:07.93	Councilmember Hoffman	Okay, and I had some other questions, but if we're going to approve the
01:37:15.74	Councilmember Hoffman	if we're going to approve locusts and Easterby for repaving them. Then I won't go to my other questions. Thank you.
01:37:21.99	Cassie	Thank you.
01:37:22.02	Councilmember Hoffman	Thank you.
01:37:22.24	Cassie	Thank you.
01:37:22.65	Councilmember Hoffman	Good question.
01:37:23.34	Cassie	Yeah.
01:37:24.65	Cassie	Thank you, Director McGowan for that presentation. I just want to clarify it because we did receive quite a bit of correspondence just asking specifically about the approval of the November 2024 CIP considerations. What you brought forward to us this evening is, in fact, just a request for proposal for the resurfacing of those four streets and 11 streets to micro seal. Correct.
01:37:49.22	Kevin McGowan	It's ready to go out to bid to get construction bids, yes.
01:37:51.55	Cassie	Right.
01:37:52.46	Cassie	Okay, great. And that's consistent with what we approved in November. Yes. Okay, thank you.
01:37:58.00	Mayor Cox	I do want to ask the city attorney,
01:38:00.77	Mayor Cox	So what we approved in December, November, I believe, did include Easterby. But please don't leave. I have something else for the director as well. Included Easterby and the end of locust. The staff report says that those were on the original resurfacing list. However...
01:38:21.10	Mayor Cox	because they have the potential to include a bioretention system or stormwater filtration system, they've been removed for further study and should be included in next year's resurfacing.
01:38:31.43	Mayor Cox	Can we give direction this evening to adopt the public works director's suggestion that we can include those in this year's resurfacing project? Because a number of residents have written regarding their concerns about the current status, and the public works director has proposed an ideal solution in which is we go ahead and repave, and then we examine and install bioretention if appropriate after the fact. Is that something we can give direction about tonight given the content of the staff report?
01:39:06.29	City Attorney Rudin	I think so, yes.
01:39:08.03	Mayor Cox	Okay, great.
01:39:10.53	Councilman Sobey	I have a question there. Yes. Yeah. So thank you, Director McGowan.
01:39:14.49	Councilman Sobey	So I think some of the confusion, because it confused me when I joined city council is this idea of policy that we set at the council and then the way staff takes that and executes against it. So what I learned is that in our general plan, that's this million dollar exercise as he goes through every 10 years. There's a section 5.10 called complete streets, and that required the city to.
01:39:40.04	Councilman Sobey	come up with a policy of complete streets.
01:39:42.96	Councilman Sobey	And I'm sharing this only because it was news to me and I thought it might be news to
01:39:47.25	Councilman Sobey	My neighbors.
01:39:48.26	Councilman Sobey	Yeah, leading to a question about how it interacts with the
01:39:53.24	Councilman Sobey	with your decision making, there's this resolution of 56, 53 that direct staff to look at complete street alternatives
01:40:03.90	Councilman Sobey	a street is being repaved or is being worked on. And it's up to you to decide where, when to do it and when not to do it.
01:40:12.58	Councilman Sobey	looking for approval of your work product.
01:40:16.32	Councilman Sobey	And so with that in mind, since we have so many people that care, you did have that one picture of locusts. That's not what we're going to be approving tonight. We're approving the paving of that street. But as the mayor pointed out, in the future, you may be coming back.
01:40:30.84	Councilman Sobey	And since people are paying attention right now, could you just put that slide back up?
01:40:34.65	Councilman Sobey	just so that I think one key
01:40:37.52	Councilman Sobey	thing that needs to be.
01:40:39.20	Councilman Sobey	want to make sure I understand it. And if I understand it correctly, I think the people that live on Easterby,
01:40:44.35	Councilman Sobey	I meant Easter, but yeah, would be interested too.
01:40:46.85	Councilman Sobey	So you know.
01:40:48.59	Councilman Sobey	So the green box used to be the one with the three little green box where you said it was relatively flat.
01:40:48.60	Kevin McGowan	Showed three green spots.
01:40:56.52	Councilman Sobey	Slide 12.
01:40:57.45	Councilman Sobey	Yeah. So in
01:41:00.18	Councilman Sobey	you put that up.
01:41:04.11	Councilman Sobey	So when you're talking about a road diet in this particular application in furtherance of the direction that the city council gave you in 2017 with this resolution,
01:41:13.82	Councilman Sobey	You're not talking about narrowing all of Easterby.
01:41:16.45	Councilman Sobey	up the hill. You're talking about three specific spots that currently are red curbs that no one can park at.
01:41:22.76	Councilman Sobey	that you might put some of these stormwater treatment
01:41:26.96	Councilman Sobey	facilities at. Is that correct? Is that what I'm thinking?
01:41:29.49	Kevin McGowan	Yes, we're trying to identify spaces.
01:41:32.99	Kevin McGowan	or on Easterby that wouldn't impact parking,
01:41:35.90	Kevin McGowan	And in this case, there are already no parking areas.
01:41:38.98	Councilman Sobey	So there's nothing further up the street that you're even contemplating here. This is not at this point.
01:41:43.57	Kevin McGowan	Not at this point. I think it's too steep.
01:41:45.62	Councilman Sobey	Yeah. Okay. So I think that was important. Now, just on the stormwater business, uh,
01:41:51.48	Councilman Sobey	Currently, water that isn't retained in the hillside goes down out into the bay, right? I presume, right? That may be a trick question, but let's just assume. Let's be aware of our risk.
01:41:58.31	Mayor Cox	questions.
01:42:01.98	Mayor Cox	management stance as well.
01:42:03.55	Councilman Sobey	Council member Sobieski. Yeah, I just know that in the past, we've been sued for silt contributions to some of our marinas, and that we have an interest in risk management in trying to mitigate how much stormwater we flush into our system.
01:42:03.70	Mayor Cox	No, no.
01:42:17.86	Councilman Sobey	Is that one of your goals behind this sort of thing?
01:42:20.96	Kevin McGowan	We want to filter some of the stormwater that comes off of the hillside. And there are other issues. It's not just siltation. It's garbage that goes into the bay. That's one reason to look at bioretention.
01:42:33.60	Councilman Sobey	And so there was one other specific at the end of locust, a flat portion of locust that you talked about. One particular design might require slide nine might require removing parking, but wouldn't it would it be possible to have a solution like you have there on the right? These permeable pavers where cars can still park, but the water seeps into the ground rather than our stormwater drain system.
01:42:58.05	Kevin McGowan	It would still go to the stormwater drainage system. It would sit there for a while before it gets to it. But yes, that is a possibility. And I covered that in saying that I think it's going to be rather expensive. We can study it and get back to you on what that would cost.
01:43:14.49	Councilman Sobey	Got it.
01:43:16.11	Councilman Sobey	So that, as the mayor said, this is, these are proposals that you may come back for additional, would it be additional funding for project approvals, or is it something that you implement under the existing policy, just as part of your maintenance program?
01:43:28.72	Kevin McGowan	I think the way we're moving this evening
01:43:31.53	Kevin McGowan	If we approve
01:43:32.87	Kevin McGowan	Easterby and the end of locus for resurfacing,
01:43:35.82	Kevin McGowan	We would come back to you as a separate project to put in this type of system in the future. Okay. Thank you.
01:43:42.35	Councilman Sobey	Thanks, Mayor.
01:43:43.60	Mayor Cox	Yeah, thank you. And thank you, Director McGowan. And I know you've put an awful lot of work into what you presented to us in November, and what you've presented to us, were prepared to present to us last week and this week.
01:43:54.85	Mayor Cox	But of course we have to be so responsive to our residents' concerns. And so thank you for pivoting to address our residents' concerns in your updated staff report this week and your presentation. I wanted to follow on about the complete streets and ask you whether you were here.
01:44:10.30	Mayor Cox	I can't remember whether it was you or Jonathan Goldman.
01:44:13.18	Mayor Cox	when we had a discussion about complete streets and about Measure AA funding.
01:44:17.74	Mayor Cox	and about the infeasibility
01:44:20.42	Mayor Cox	In Sausalito.
01:44:21.90	Mayor Cox	of
01:44:23.27	Mayor Cox	actually
01:44:24.64	Mayor Cox	accomplishing complete streets throughout town. Do you recall that meeting and that discussion?
01:44:30.04	Kevin McGowan	and
01:44:31.12	Kevin McGowan	I was not here at that point in time. And the studies that I've done on this current list have pretty much proven exactly what you've said, is that it's really difficult to address this, especially on our very steep hillsides.
01:44:46.36	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
01:44:46.59	Kevin McGowan	So,
01:44:46.96	Mayor Cox	Were you aware that David Parisi had performed a study that showed different streets throughout Sausalito where complete streets could be feasible and where they would not be feasible, and that in accepting the Measure AA funds, we actually included a proviso that we would not be required to adopt complete streets in areas where it was geographically infeasible?
01:45:09.73	Kevin McGowan	I am not aware of that. I would be very helpful to see that.
01:45:12.88	Mayor Cox	Okay, I will see if I can identify that information for you.
01:45:17.46	Mayor Cox	All right, and I see that the vice mayor has his hand raised.
01:45:20.56	Vice Mayor Woodside	Yeah, and this is probably a redundant question, but just for my make sure I'm clear tonight, what is being recommended by DPW is that we go forward on bit to have bid documents and so forth for all of these streets, including Locust and Easterby. Is that is that my understanding? Is that correct?
01:45:42.35	Kevin McGowan	Yes, Vice Mayor.
01:45:43.51	Vice Mayor Woodside	Okay, thank you.
01:45:45.74	Mayor Cox	Okay, I think that's all the questions for now.
01:45:47.49	Councilman Sobey	I'm okay, go ahead. I did have one more question about this.
01:45:51.31	Councilman Sobey	Do we have any speaker cards?
01:45:51.39	Mayor Cox	Do we can explain?
01:45:52.42	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
01:45:52.44	Councilman Sobey	you
01:45:52.74	Councilman Sobey	Lane, lane with business and traffic calming, which is also part of this complete street. So one way you have a road diet is of course actually making the road narrower and other is just by striping the lanes narrower.
01:46:04.54	Councilman Sobey	And
01:46:05.26	Councilman Sobey	you know.
01:46:06.51	Councilman Sobey	I'm not a traffic expert, but I'm really asking you and with with an audience of people that care, it has been asserted that narrowing the lane somewhat causes people to drive slower. So we've we as a city council lowered the speed limit on Bridgeway and people still drive faster than the speed limit.
01:46:26.38	Councilman Sobey	sometimes substantially faster. The police of course can cite them. That's one way.
01:46:32.15	Councilman Sobey	of controlling excessive speed. But I've been told that psychology and human behavior is such that if you make the painting
01:46:39.55	Councilman Sobey	Smaller, not the road surface. The road surface stays the same, but just the lane a little bit narrower. Yeah.
01:46:44.95	Councilman Sobey	that that will actually cause people intuitively to slow down. And that for that reason, Caltrans.
01:46:50.76	Councilman Sobey	the professional traffic people of the state,
01:46:53.12	Councilman Sobey	have a standard of something like 10 and a half feet or maybe it's yeah I think it's 10 and a half feet for our lanes and our lanes I think in the proposal on bridgeway are 12. And so my question to you is would a cheap
01:47:05.31	Councilman Sobey	way,
01:47:06.35	Councilman Sobey	of doing a complete streets implementation on bridgeway, not be making this asphalt any narrower,
01:47:12.63	Councilman Sobey	but simply making the painted lines a little bit narrower to help slow things down.
01:47:18.10	Councilman Sobey	Thank you.
01:47:18.11	Kevin McGowan	So firstly, it wasn't me chief who was speeding. Second, I have heard that too, that as you narrow lanes, your speed does drop. Your striping has to really pop as well. So it's got to be very vibrant.
01:47:33.71	Kevin McGowan	However, reducing it probably less than 10 and a half feet can be problematic as well.
01:47:39.61	Kevin McGowan	So,
01:47:40.47	Kevin McGowan	I would have to do a little bit of investigation with our traffic engineer.
01:47:44.20	Kevin McGowan	But I think you're correct. There is some traffic calming as you narrow some lanes.
01:47:49.75	Councilman Sobey	So as part of this decision here tonight, when we're approving asphalt,
01:47:52.81	Councilman Sobey	uh, laying millions of dollars. Do you need additional direction to maybe adopt the Caltrans standard for our lane width on bridgeway, uh, or at least take a serious look at it and make your own decision.
01:48:04.47	Mayor Cox	So I would, as a point of order, I would object to considering that direction this evening since we have, it's not part of our staff report and we aren't able to take public comment from people. We already received a number of comments concerned about street narrowing because of trucks and other vehicles. So I would ask that we take that up as a topic for a future date.
01:48:28.01	Councilman Sobey	Mayor, just a question for you then on that point. I thought we were approving some work on Bridgeway. Maybe I mixed it up. Is there no Bridgeway work on this?
01:48:35.11	Kevin McGowan	No, that's not correct. We do have a micro seal on Bridgeway.
01:48:38.91	Councilman Sobey	So as part of that, the striping is a pertinent
01:48:42.08	Councilman Sobey	Maybe.
01:48:42.13	Mayor Cox	MAKING THEM.
01:48:42.27	Fred Moore	Thank you.
01:48:42.29	Councilman Sobey	Thank you there.
01:48:42.35	Mayor Cox	She's there.
01:48:44.16	Councilman Sobey	So that's why I mentioned it as part of that.
01:48:46.72	Mayor Cox	I'm raising this as a point of order. I don't think so. Perhaps the city attorney can weigh in. I don't think it's on our agenda this evening to consider
01:48:54.81	Mayor Cox	re-striping bridgeway to narrow the traffic lanes in order to accomplish traffic calming. I believe
01:49:02.30	Councilmember Hoffman	um,
01:49:02.55	Mayor Cox	my
01:49:02.69	Councilmember Hoffman	I'm gonna hand it.
01:49:02.99	Mayor Cox	City of Dering?
01:49:03.23	Councilmember Hoffman	Yeah.
01:49:03.94	Councilmember Hoffman	Okay.
01:49:03.97	City Attorney Rudin	IT.
01:49:04.19	Mayor Cox	I know.
01:49:04.24	City Attorney Rudin	COB, Dan Burke, So I will say that you do have on your agenda, the plans for construction for the 2024.
01:49:04.31	Unknown	Thank you.
01:49:04.32	Councilmember Hoffman	Thank you.
01:49:04.34	Unknown	Thank you.
01:49:04.38	Councilmember Hoffman	Well, so...
01:49:12.27	City Attorney Rudin	uh, pavement projects. So I think it is within
01:49:17.23	City Attorney Rudin	It's permissible under the Brown Act, at least for you to consider directing staff to make revisions to your construction plans.
01:49:24.51	Councilmember Hoffman	OK.
01:49:24.81	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
01:49:25.16	Mayor Cox	Councilmember Hoffman.
01:49:26.38	Councilmember Hoffman	I thought I read somewhere in the staff report that we're specifically not looking at any other road narrowing or road diet projects other than Easter Bee and this specific project projects that were called out for Easter Bee and locusts other than Easter Bee.
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01:49:43.04	Councilmember Hoffman	that the bar.
01:49:43.61	Councilmember Hoffman	Thank you.
01:49:43.64	Councilmember Hoffman	of pay.
01:49:44.03	Mayor Cox	of the road diet page, it says,
01:49:49.30	Mayor Cox	Staff have pulled both Easterby and Locust to allow city consultant time to research these two roadways for bioretention rainways and road dieting improvements.
01:49:59.64	Councilmember Hoffman	And I thought somewhere in your, and I can find it, there are no other road diet projects that are considered other than those two.
01:50:08.79	Cassie	I have a question.
01:50:10.34	Councilmember Hoffman	Yeah.
01:50:10.78	Cassie	Does that, I don't know that, does the drawing of the like striping for bridgeway to accommodate bike lanes and slowing constitute a road diet? And I feel like we're allowed to direct in the context of this.
01:50:23.57	Kevin McGowan	Thank you.
01:50:23.60	Kevin McGowan	We were not.
01:50:23.86	Councilmember Hoffman	received
01:50:24.24	Kevin McGowan	Thank you.
01:50:24.31	Councilmember Hoffman	Oh.
01:50:24.46	Kevin McGowan	Thank you.
01:50:24.48	Cassie	I'm asking Dr. McGowan.
01:50:26.03	Councilmember Hoffman	I think if we're going to veer into that, there was a lot of public comment, both for and against, how that would affect bicyclists, both for and against. I saw public comments that I was able to review, written public comments that I was able to review before we came in.
01:50:44.31	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
01:50:44.33	Councilmember Hoffman	Thank you.
01:50:44.85	Councilmember Hoffman	I'm not sure.
01:50:45.03	Mayor Cox	um,
01:50:45.44	Councilmember Hoffman	you
01:50:45.68	Councilmember Hoffman	Here, here.
01:50:45.69	Unknown	It's right here.
01:50:45.96	Mayor Cox	It's right here.
01:50:47.16	Mayor Cox	This concept will require significant discussion and development such that considering a road diet at this time for Bridgeway between Nevada and Easterby is not reasonable, and staff recommends micro-sealing this portion of Bridgeway with the intent of extending the life of the existing road surface.
01:51:02.43	Councilman Sobey	I appreciate that. And it's during question time. So we can actually ask the author of that himself. I believe that entire sentence is about the physical construction of the roadway, not about the striping of the lane width. The thing you said, the road diet, making the notions of making bridgeway narrower physically is what is a big project, but the notion of possibly just paint redoing the asphalt, just like we're proposing,
01:51:28.82	Councilman Sobey	but directing staff to use the Caltrans standard for the lane width
01:51:33.16	Councilman Sobey	is easy to do, it's just paint.
01:51:35.51	Kevin McGowan	Well, Caltrans standard is 12 feet, and that's what it is now.
01:51:38.83	Councilman Sobey	or the 11 feet that we want to have for the traffic calming.
01:51:42.41	Kevin McGowan	I'm not sure the state of California has come up with something that says it's less than 12 feet.
01:51:47.02	Councilman Sobey	Okay.
01:51:48.37	Councilman Sobey	But we could give that direction. I'm learning for the-
01:51:50.68	Mayor Cox	We can give direction to come back to us, to...
01:51:55.52	Councilman Sobey	So.
01:51:56.28	Mayor Cox	I really think this is a controversial issue for our residents.
01:52:00.97	Mayor Cox	And if the Caltrans standard is 12 feet, I would say let's have him come back. When he comes back to us to talk about bioretention, let's talk about road diets and everything else. But let's do it in an orderly, thoughtful fashion that allows the residents to weigh in.
01:52:16.02	Councilman Sobey	Yeah, I certainly don't know what the Caltrain standard is.
01:52:16.35	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
01:52:19.08	City Attorney Rudin	I guess.
01:52:19.13	Councilman Sobey	Thank you.
01:52:19.30	City Attorney Rudin	Thank you.
01:52:19.43	City Attorney Rudin	Yeah, they're...
01:52:20.97	City Attorney Rudin	Besides the California Manual on uniform traffic control devices, I would want to double check that the
01:52:27.80	City Attorney Rudin	lane with standards are not prescribed by the vehicle code, which the city does have to follow.
01:52:34.77	Mayor Cox	Great. Thank you. Other questions?
01:52:35.38	Elina Frankov	Thank you.
01:52:36.83	Mayor Cox	Okay. All right. I'm going to close our questions and open it up for public comment. The first public commenter is John Johnson. Director McGowan, will you stick around in case? Yeah. All right.
01:52:49.89	Mayor Cox	And after Jan, I'll hear from Morgan Pierce and then Catherine Streetman.
01:52:56.63	Jan Johnson	Hi, thank you for tolerating me again.
01:52:59.97	Jan Johnson	Hidden in that staff report is a mention of the now defunct PBAC's plan to, quote, narrow North Bridgeway to two lanes from Gate 5 Road to the ferry terminal to put in Class 1 bike lanes. The concept was developed in a...
01:53:18.83	Jan Johnson	and out to study and conserve
01:53:22.01	Jan Johnson	as a connection to the North-South Greenway and as part of the Bay Trail Network. And it's mentioned that it would need to be studied...
01:53:30.26	Jan Johnson	et cetera.
01:53:33.89	Jan Johnson	Sausalito is basically a tinderbox. Public easements and private property are full of dead debris and highly flammable trees. We could easily burn as did the Pacific Palisades. I think any this
01:53:52.79	Jan Johnson	previous P-back
01:53:54.34	Jan Johnson	concept should be permanently shelved
01:53:57.98	Jan Johnson	The northern bridgeway is the major evacuation route out of town. Everything else is two narrow lanes with housing on either side. And for the westward bridgeway,
01:54:11.97	Jan Johnson	Spencer and Montemore, a lot of that is essentially one lane because of parking. You can't widen 2nd Street or South Street unless you take out housing. So it would make me feel a lot better if somehow this plan is removed permanently from any study by staff that might somehow happen, costing us money and
01:54:37.59	Jan Johnson	reducing our evacuation capabilities. Thank you.
01:54:41.37	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
01:54:42.62	Mayor Cox	Morgan Pierce, then Catherine Streetman, then Mark Palmer.
01:54:48.61	Mayor Cox	Welcome.
01:54:48.73	Vicki Nichols	.
01:54:48.74	Morgan Pierce	Oh, thank you. Good evening, Mayor Cox, Vice Mayor Woodside, members of the city council, city staff, and my fellow Sausalitans. My name is Morgan Pierce. I'm an architect, landscape architect, past chair of both the Planning and Historic Preservation Commissions, longtime resident and currently president of Sausalit of Beautiful. I'd like to thank the council, the city manager, and the director of public works and their staff for proactively embracing the concept of design thinking as it pertains to civic maintenance and improvement, and proposing revised programs that focuses immediate remedial work where most needed. the concept of design thinking as it pertains to civic maintenance and improvement, and composing revised programs that focuses immediate remedial work where most needed, and introduces new case studies to explore the potential application of new methodologies and how we approach our infrastructure. The benefits to be realized include safer roadways, reduced heat island effects, which the EPA may not recognize, but each of us certainly does when we walk downtown on a hot, sunny day.
01:55:33.70	Morgan Pierce	enhanced stormwater management and improved water quality, all while preserving circulation and parking and increasing civic beauty.
01:55:41.21	Morgan Pierce	It's time for us to not settle for status quo solutions and instead take more consideration for the community we are leaving for future generations. For what it's worth, there are bioretention systems that work in some sloped conditions, so we shouldn't abandon that completely. While you may ask, is SouthSuite a beautiful way in on this topic? It's simple. In addition to the other benefits cited, we are committed to improving SouthSuite's public green spaces, and this gives us more opportunities to do so.
01:56:04.97	Morgan Pierce	We recommend the council approve this project and undertake the much needed repairs as scheduled and pursue case studies for applying new technologies for improving our roadways as part of a long-term investment in our community. Thank you.
01:56:16.80	Mayor Cox	Thank you. That was a mouthful.
01:56:18.77	Mayor Cox	Catherine Streetman, Mark Palmer, and then Lori Vault.
01:56:23.24	Catherine Streetman	Thank you for letting me have this chance to speak. I'm a little worried about the road diets. When I was a kid, I lived on Bulkley for the first seven years of my life and very close to San Carlos. So it was pretty good place to be a kid, but there were no sidewalks and there wasn't much parking. So I can remember my parents having the discussion off and like,
01:56:42.11	Catherine Streetman	Where is the car? Well, it's down the street, around the corner, up the hill. It drove my dad crazy.
01:56:48.22	Catherine Streetman	And eventually we left. But when my husband and I came back 33 years ago, we bought our fixer upper down in the flats. We forego a view just so that we could have a lot of parking and also be in a walkable neighborhood. So we'd get to shops and the beach and
01:56:49.64	Unknown	When my.
01:57:02.09	Catherine Streetman	The bookstore is everything, you know, in our neighborhood. Some people have driveways and garages. Some people don't. Most people don't. So they are dependent on what happens in the street to have a place to park.
01:57:12.74	Catherine Streetman	And there's room for bikes to go both ways and cars to go both ways. And there are sidewalks and street trees.
01:57:18.93	Catherine Streetman	It works out pretty well. And also, it's not just the residents, it's the visitors and the people that patronize the businesses on Caledonia and Bridgeway. Also, the people that work at the restaurants as far as down as Poggio Park on my block.
01:57:32.55	Catherine Streetman	So there's workers from
01:57:34.25	Catherine Streetman	all the way from downtown parking up there. And it's just that we need that parking. So I would be hoping that it doesn't reduce our parking.
01:57:42.08	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
01:57:42.77	Catherine Streetman	And
01:57:44.02	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
01:57:44.06	Catherine Streetman	Thank you.
01:57:44.40	Mayor Cox	That's it. Thanks. Thank you. Mark Palmer, then Laurie Vialt.
01:57:49.83	Mayor Cox	And then Mike Rogers.
01:57:52.36	Mayor Cox	Welcome.
01:57:53.59	Mark Palmer	Good evening, Mayor, City Council members. Mark Palmer.
01:57:57.22	Mark Palmer	I'm here to support the roadway rehabilitation project. This investment in our streets is critical, but it's also a chance to go beyond basic resurfacing and move toward an approach that better serves all users.
01:58:09.52	Mark Palmer	I strongly support incorporating elements like bioretention, balanced street design, and traffic calming to make our streets safer, greener, and more walkable.
01:58:19.83	Mark Palmer	These improvements not only extend the life of our infrastructure, but also support public health and climate resilience.
01:58:26.57	Mark Palmer	I commend staff for taking a closer look at locust and Easterby. These streets present unique opportunities and challenges that deserve careful attention.
01:58:36.02	Mark Palmer	This project could be a stepping stone toward a more strategic
01:58:39.66	Mark Palmer	long-term vision for roadway improvements in Sausalito. Thank you.
01:58:43.44	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
01:58:44.67	Mayor Cox	Laurie B. Alt, Mike Rogers, Lorette Rogers.
01:58:50.56	Lori Vault	Hello. Thank you very much. I live up on Central Avenue. And the reason I wanted to speak tonight is because it was mentioned in the proposal about narrowing of streets and Bridgeway was listed as one of those streets to be narrowed.
01:59:05.94	Lori Vault	In order to narrow Bridgeway, we would have to remove the center median, which is critical for safety vehicles who will have no way around if removed. The center median is also crucial for residents who live on Bridgeway to access garages and driveways. And removal of the center median on Bridgeway would create unimaginable traffic backups.
01:59:29.24	Lori Vault	also narrowing bridgeway and potentially removing parking
01:59:33.19	Lori Vault	presents a lot of issues because we already have limited parking and we really can't afford to lose more parking as a city, especially if we are proposing 724 new housing units. And those spaces on Bridgeway are used quite a lot, especially for the parking after six limitations that are nearby. So I would encourage us not to narrow Bridgeway and to accept the ruling that was made a couple of months ago on a very passionate topic on this issue. So thank you very much.
02:00:08.27	Mayor Cox	Thank you. Mike Rogers, then Laurette Rogers, and then Niels Carlson.
02:00:18.63	Mayor Cox	Welcome.
02:00:19.93	Mike Rogers	Thank you.
02:00:19.95	Mayor Cox	Well,
02:00:20.08	Mike Rogers	I'm getting mayor Cox and council members. It seems like Easterby street and the road paving is going to,
02:00:27.46	Mike Rogers	It sounds like we're just going to go ahead and pave it and maybe come back to bio soil and look at that another time. But I'd like to point out a few different things about it anyway, according to slide, I think was slide number nine.
02:00:38.23	Mike Rogers	where they show where the bioswales would be, bioretention would be.
02:00:42.76	Mike Rogers	I used to sell those bricks and they break all the time. They're open in the inside. It's trucks go over them, garbage trucks, cement trucks, moving trucks. I saw today in the area. I live it. I should have said also that I'm a third generation Sausalitan. We've been here since 1920. I overlook Pearl Spring Easterby all the time and to put bioretention.
02:01:09.58	Mike Rogers	those bricks that crack all the time. Someone would have to be,
02:01:14.10	Mike Rogers	on that all the time, watching it as trucks go over, because those are roadways.
02:01:18.10	Mike Rogers	pedestrian areas or roadways, so trucks and stuff go through them all the time.
02:01:22.40	Mike Rogers	It would be horrible.
02:01:25.36	Mayor Cox	Are you talking about the pavers? Yes.
02:01:26.71	Mike Rogers	Yes, those pavers, yeah. And they really aren't pavers. They used to sell their locking pavers. They're not solid pavers. They have the openings in them.
02:01:34.16	Mike Rogers	and
02:01:34.86	Mike Rogers	Uh, there are
02:01:36.04	Mike Rogers	They're great for bioretention in a residence.
02:01:39.50	Mike Rogers	situation in your own driveway in a residence or in a backyard, not in a commercial application.
02:01:46.13	Mike Rogers	not in a commercial application unless something new has been made. I don't know of that. Also, they make a lot of noise. Those are in traffic spots. As tires go over, it goes rickety, rickety, rickety, rickety. I don't think anybody in the town wants to hear that noise in their neighborhoods. So that's just two other points. Also, Easterby Street has been in need of paving for 50 years. I have a movie of a female actor who came out of a house in at the top of Easterby street and came down Easterby and the movie shows all of Easterby street.
02:02:23.02	Mayor Cox	Walford, you have to give him a few more seconds because I interrupted him with a question.
02:02:26.58	Mayor Cox	it,
02:02:26.95	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
02:02:26.97	Mike Rogers	She came down Easterby Street and they showed Easterby Street on this movie from 1970. So and showing the waterfront that she was on her way down to.
02:02:35.84	Mike Rogers	And it was in horrible shape then it's an horrible shape now I drove over today it's got potholders all through it, and it needs to be paid now it's been approved, pave it now pave the whole thing and and no.
02:02:49.29	Mike Rogers	uh,
02:02:50.31	Mike Rogers	uh, uh, restrictions on dieting, dieting. That's a horrible,
02:02:54.90	Mike Rogers	Horrible thing. We have 40 foot streets there.
02:02:57.07	Mayor Cox	Thank you, sir. That's actually the end of your time.
02:02:57.65	Mike Rogers	Yeah.
02:02:59.98	Mayor Cox	Thank you so much.
02:03:02.54	Mayor Cox	Lorette Rogers. Hi, Lorette Rogers. And Niels Carlson, then Jacques Ullman.
02:03:05.39	Loretta Rogers	And Niels.
02:03:08.72	Loretta Rogers	Lorette Rogers, Spring Valley. Yes, I'm here also to tell you, please beg you to don't delay in paving spring Easterby locust and the other streets that have...
02:03:19.82	Loretta Rogers	have been called out. No road diets. We have large commercial trucks that use these streets every day. Come see what's going on. In addition, emergency vehicles use those streets to go up to the hills, and we need to keep them wide and smooth. I'm an environmentalist, so bioretention and all that, I know about all that. I think it's a great thing not here, not on the streets called out. I thought Mr. McGowan gave a great presentation about it, but I would hope that you remove the study and not continue with that. Some of the things that we lose with road diets and some of the things you talked about are parking. And I guess I just wanted to show you, if you haven't seen it. Most Marin households get this magazine every month. And as I started to read Mimi Tal, the editor's letter, the first thing she said was, urging everyone to get out and have fun, summer. She said, it's July in Marin, which means lots of downtown parking, any town except maybe Sausalito.
02:04:20.08	Loretta Rogers	Okay, so you know the words out there that Sausalito is not open for business that things are kind of closing down and I think as we lose more and more parking spaces, we lose opportunities to thrive as a city. So I urge you to reconsider that and all the different things projects that you're thinking about.
02:04:40.11	Loretta Rogers	Yeah, and the other thing to say is just, you know, Spring Valley is part of the historic Sausalito too.
02:04:46.30	Loretta Rogers	putting the big building in the north is not the answer. I mean, my husband's family has been here for 100 years. Both our grandfathers worked on Marin's ship. It's historic, you guys. So when the big, ugly building needs to be placed somewhere, please consider that Spring Valley also is historic. And I wanted to thank you for your service. And I really urge you to pave all these streets right now. I appreciate it. Thank you.
02:05:09.47	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
02:05:10.30	Mayor Cox	All right, Niels Carlson, then Jacques Ullman, then DJ Puffer.
02:05:18.06	Mayor Cox	Okay, so.
02:05:23.16	Maral Boyadijan	Thank you.
02:05:25.67	Mayor Cox	Okay. What about Jacques? Yeah.
02:05:31.02	Jacques Ullman	Well, first, I want to second everything that Morgan Pierce said. I back all of that. I just want to mention that El Portal, there is an effort to raise El Portal to sidewalk level, and there's support from all the local businesses there. And so it would seem a shame to use that as an experiment. You know, that's kind of a waste of money if we're going to, because we have, I think, half the funds from private sources. So I think you should reconsider that. Locust Street, the city manager very rightfully recommended that we do some planning of the private properties south of Dunphy Park, and we have the city streets.
02:05:42.67	Unknown	ISN'T EFFECT.
02:06:28.84	Jacques Ullman	and we have the BCDC restrictions on what you can build near the shoreline, all of that combined in that area could be a plan where the streets, even where we have the parking lot there, that could all be changed into a plan where all these properties would work together. parking could be below housing. there, that could all be changed into a plan where all these properties would work together. Parking could be below housing or all sorts of things. So I wouldn't do too much improvement to Locust Street until that planning is done. Thank you.
02:06:54.47	Unknown	We're going to...
02:07:07.31	Unknown	Thank you.
02:07:09.17	Unknown	Thank you.
02:07:09.19	Mayor Cox	Uh, DJ puffer.
02:07:12.56	Mayor Cox	And next is Adrienne Britton.
02:07:16.61	Unknown	Madam Mayor and city council members, thank you very much for hearing me. This is kind of like same time again next year. This is my seventh time up here talking about repaving Easterby. I've been in a residence at
02:07:30.67	Unknown	on Easterby Street since July 2, 1972. I raised my two daughters there, who are now 54. I've been there for 53 years of them, 54. We started in 1978 asking to have that street repaved, and we dealt with that issue. At that time, economics was a consideration, and it just keeps going up. I'll bypass all the other times that I've been up speaking about the street coming in and getting repaved, and that's all I'm concerned about is the public safety and the street. The city has been sued at one time that I know of for sure because of the potholes there and somebody injuring themselves. I've seen countless people fall over. There are plenty of potholes there. There's plenty of damage to the street. 53 years, the only thing that happens is the street gets dug up and various entities pave them. And some do a good job, some don't. As was mentioned tonight, it is an emergency Street.
02:07:30.73	Unknown	Uh,
02:07:31.24	Unknown	of...
02:07:36.30	Unknown	I READY.
02:08:40.75	Unknown	What hasn't been mentioned
02:08:42.57	Unknown	is that it's also on waves.
02:08:45.09	Unknown	So if there's a backup on the freeway, Rodeo was used to go to Woodward, and it's recommended to go down Easterby Street. The street's in horrible shape. Take a walk on it.
02:08:58.64	Unknown	That level area of Easterby, that's an interesting thought. There is a level area, but it's all red curbed, or we have a fire hydrant right in the middle of the sidewalk. It could be revisited. If the street were paved and it was taken care of, it could be revisited. Thank you.
02:09:20.64	Unknown	Thank you very much.
02:09:21.22	Mayor Cox	Thank you so much. Thank you for that history.
02:09:23.31	Mayor Cox	Adrienne Brinton, then Diane Johnson, then Sonia Hansen.
02:09:28.00	Mayor Cox	And I still have Yves Carlson on here as well.
02:09:28.28	Unknown	Thank you.
02:09:28.39	Adrienne Britton	to be here in the city council.
02:09:29.21	Unknown	So,
02:09:31.81	Mayor Cox	Go ahead, Adrian. Welcome.
02:09:33.45	Adrienne Britton	I see the council, thank you for taking my comment.
02:09:36.27	Adrienne Britton	I'd like to start by just pointing out that we're still talking about the 2024 road repaving program, because repaving roads is difficult and it takes a long time. We've been talking about repaving these roads for over a year. They've been on a list. Before that, we had, as one of the council members mentioned,
02:09:54.34	Adrienne Britton	you know, our general plan, talking about complete streets, about doing things differently. And I think through this whole road paving process, we brought up that
02:10:00.11	Adrienne Britton	We should be thinking about these things a little bit differently. For me, that means how do we get the most out of our money? We're going to put a huge investment into our infrastructure. How do we maximize that?
02:10:09.26	Adrienne Britton	One way to maximize that that's been brought up is to reduce our pavement area. And when I see a 40-foot wide road,
02:10:15.82	Adrienne Britton	I know that's more road than we need, and we have some roads like that.
02:10:19.67	Adrienne Britton	I'd love to be able to look back when I'm 80 and I'm up here and I'm shaking my fist and say, when we started that infrastructure improvement project, we got our money's worth out of it. And I feel like by going in and doing it the way we're doing it,
02:10:32.70	Adrienne Britton	We'll get it done. And I'm really, really glad that we're getting these streets done because they badly need it. Uh, but we're not going to get our full money's worth out of it. I don't feel.
02:10:42.28	Adrienne Britton	What would it take to do that? It would take a lot more than what we're doing. Our process for doing this and our process for doing something different is broken.
02:10:50.11	Adrienne Britton	Kevin, Director McGowan has put a ton of work into this. One of the pieces that I feel like really should have been done was there should have been outreach at that point in the process where we were talking about how to do this differently, bring in the community, bring in other ideas, bring in designers who have done this in other places, who understand where the opportunities are, and present those to people that live on the streets. When it comes into the last minute like this, people are confused. People are angry. Like, where's my parking? My lane's going to go away, this, that. I don't see those things as being necessary or even being asked for here. And so to see that much confusion generated at the last minute and this much anger about doing something that ultimately is going to benefit all of us is just a missed opportunity. So I hope with 26, we can do it better. Thank you.
02:11:35.76	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
02:11:36.94	Mayor Cox	Diane Johnson.
02:11:39.47	Mayor Cox	Niels Carlson and Sonia Hansen.
02:11:47.08	SPEAKER_43	Hello, I'm Diane Johnson.
02:11:49.24	SPEAKER_43	I live on Filbert, and so I need Easterby when I turn off of Bridgeway to get up to my street. And to narrow that street, this diet, the Ozempic for roads, is really ridiculous because that is such an impacted intersection already. There's an area where people are not to block that area. They block it all the time. We need that extra space just to get through. I have been nearly rear-ended making that turn onto Filbert on Easterby, onto Filbert, on Easterby, onto Filbert, right there. It's just a dangerous intersection. And, yes, Easterby does need to be resurfaced soon, and it's been a long time that we've been waiting for this. And then another street that I think is really important is Monty Mar, going up to the freeway. That's our exit route when we don't want to go on bridgeway, especially on the weekends when there's all the bicycles and the traffic. So we go up the back way on all those streets. Monty Mar has so many deep potholes that my whole alignment of my car is screwed up all the time from these huge, huge potholes. And we've been told for years that they're going to take care of that street. And it's a major, it's a freeway entrance. So I end up going to the wrong side of the street, driving, driving across what would be a double line if there was a line there. And, and, you know, endangering myself with oncoming downward-facing traffic because I'm trying not to fall into these potholes. So I would really urge this to be an immediate fix of the roads. Thank you.
02:13:25.16	Unknown	Thank you.
02:13:25.18	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
02:13:28.48	Mayor Cox	Nils Carlson. I heard he had stepped out to speak in the hallway, but is he back?
02:13:36.21	Mayor Cox	See you later.
02:13:38.29	Mayor Cox	Okay. All right, then Sonia Hansen.
02:13:41.19	Mayor Cox	That's the last speaker card I have from the gallery, and then we'll go to online.
02:13:45.97	Sonia Hansen	Welcome. Okay. Thank you, Sonia Hanson, Spring Street resident for...
02:13:51.96	Sonia Hansen	Yeah.
02:13:52.65	Sonia Hansen	More than half a century.
02:13:55.82	Sonia Hansen	I guess the thing that I'd really like to clarify now from listening to what all you've all been saying, are we now focused on paving all these roads first?
02:13:59.01	Unknown	know.
02:14:08.49	Sonia Hansen	And then all the other things can come afterwards, but that would be fantastic. I was going to tell you the story about a member of the Southernman Fire District who has been a neighbor. He's now 47. So I've known him his whole life. He was, they were called Southernman Fire District to the 7-Eleven. They always park right in front of the fire hydrant. He stepped out of the truck, fell in a pothole,
02:14:36.19	Sonia Hansen	was taken to the emergency room and for six weeks could not work.
02:14:40.54	Sonia Hansen	Easterby is a nightmare. So thank you for paving it. Thank you for paving the other roads and what happens going forward. I wish you all well.
02:14:51.15	Mayor Cox	Thank you. All right, Wolfred.
02:14:56.42	Unknown	All right, we have Babette McDougall.
02:15:03.05	Babette McDougall	Thank you. So, you know,
02:15:06.36	Babette McDougall	Like so many others, I'm asking myself, why do we have such a full council tonight?
02:15:11.39	Babette McDougall	as we did just recently when it had to get kicked over to tonight. And why are so many people paying attention?
02:15:17.87	Babette McDougall	And it's because we are at that moment of inflection
02:15:21.06	Babette McDougall	for our community.
02:15:22.64	Babette McDougall	which is why I'm glad we're having this discussion. But first of all, you have to realize
02:15:27.64	Babette McDougall	This whole thing about place making
02:15:30.44	Babette McDougall	This is our moment, and I think what we're hearing finally
02:15:33.97	Babette McDougall	is your people are coming forward saying, don't forget that we are our own place. That's important. And then are we going to spend money on infrastructure or not? You've been promising infrastructure for so long. And I think you hear that frustration because is it, you know, if it's Tuesday, it must be infrastructure. And then the final thing is the narrowing of streets. The whole thing about repainting streets takes the whole town by shock.
02:16:01.68	Babette McDougall	And this shakes confidence in governance because it comes across like, well, are we going to get the pavements or not? Are we going to fill the potholes or not? Are you suddenly going to blindside us with another?
02:16:15.01	Babette McDougall	fastball that nobody expected, and now suddenly
02:16:18.64	Babette McDougall	because we're supposed to do planet A.
02:16:21.54	Babette McDougall	We're going to do plant B and we're going to repaint everything to our great detriment and constriction when there's no consensus on how we're going to rebuild.
02:16:31.02	Babette McDougall	the town to preserve this character.
02:16:33.87	Babette McDougall	that we care so much about because it's on a direct collision
02:16:37.30	Babette McDougall	with the transit worker
02:16:39.12	Babette McDougall	housing hub concept.
02:16:41.70	Babette McDougall	So we really need to daylight all of this data going forward. And I just beg of you, what you're seeing here are smatterings in. Please don't let us lose the last of confidence we have in this governance.
02:16:54.58	Babette McDougall	We're imploring you to work with us, not against us. Thank you. Thank you. City Clerk.
02:17:02.32	Unknown	We have Joris Von Menz.
02:17:07.34	Joris Van Menz	Hi, there's...
02:17:08.64	Joris Van Menz	Dear city council, thank you. I just wanted to say that great to see we're improving the roads, a big fan of that. I do wanna make a comment about
02:17:19.64	Joris Van Menz	the speed of cars on our streets, which is, I love that we have pretty limited speed limits, but as we all know, when you walk on the streets, the cars are driving far over the speed limits, and this is an excellent opportunity also to think about proposals such as traffic calming, even if it's just repainting the lines, as was suggested here. So thank you for taking that into consideration.
02:17:39.65	Joris Van Menz	Thank you. Thank you.
02:17:42.18	Unknown	All right, next speaker is Elina Frankov.
02:17:48.31	Elina Frankov	Hi, City Council. Thanks for considering the plans. And I'd like to ask that you do engage in forward-looking designs that consider all stakeholders that use the streets, not just cars. However, I also recognize that some streets are in dire need of repaving and so balancing that is important as well. But one to urge considering making the streets safer for cyclists.
02:18:15.36	Elina Frankov	as I cycle on the road with my daughter all the time. And I'm a Sausalito resident and a homeowner. Thank you.
02:18:22.08	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
02:18:25.43	Unknown	Next speaker is Sandra Bushmaker.
02:18:29.45	Sandra Bushmaker	Good evening again.
02:18:32.13	Sandra Bushmaker	I think I like the direction that the Council is going on this. I just wanted to remind you that you had a meeting in November of 2024 in which you approved a list.
02:18:44.22	Sandra Bushmaker	of the streets
02:18:45.90	Sandra Bushmaker	On July 1st, you had a consent count
02:18:49.18	Sandra Bushmaker	under matter to to approve the
02:18:52.55	Sandra Bushmaker	going out to bid on that list from November, 2024.
02:18:57.70	Sandra Bushmaker	The matter got pulled and opened up Pandora's box and all these other things. We need to get these roads paved.
02:19:05.09	Sandra Bushmaker	I'm not opposed to looking at these other items that have been raised but what has started off
02:19:10.88	Sandra Bushmaker	as a repaving program approved by the Council
02:19:14.52	Sandra Bushmaker	and
02:19:15.96	Sandra Bushmaker	approved
02:19:17.49	Sandra Bushmaker	in the 2526 capital improvement program,
02:19:20.97	Sandra Bushmaker	I have the number if you're interested,
02:19:23.77	Sandra Bushmaker	We need to get on with it.
02:19:26.84	Sandra Bushmaker	It's really shameful that we haven't paved Easterby in 50 years.
02:19:34.01	Sandra Bushmaker	I was just on it the other day and it truly is abhorrent. So let's get on with what the council approved.
02:19:41.24	Sandra Bushmaker	in November of 2024 and thereafter with a capital improvement allocation.
02:19:48.41	Sandra Bushmaker	So let's do that if the council desires to look at these other issues.
02:19:54.30	Sandra Bushmaker	In the future,
02:19:56.14	Sandra Bushmaker	Well, as someone else said,
02:19:58.21	Sandra Bushmaker	Good on you.
02:19:59.51	Sandra Bushmaker	Okay, thank you.
02:20:03.19	Unknown	Our next speaker is Kieran Culligan.
02:20:09.03	Karen Culligan	I'm Eric Kieran Culligan, Sausalito resident.
02:20:12.07	Karen Culligan	Our infrastructure is old, no surprises there. We're hearing about things not being repaved in 50 years.
02:20:17.84	Karen Culligan	I'll tell you one thing, traffic, the concept of traffic engineering looks fundamentally different today than it did 50 years ago.
02:20:25.04	Karen Culligan	And many of these modern designs are counterintuitive for many of us. It looks different, like why would you want
02:20:31.35	Karen Culligan	a narrower travel lane. Doesn't mean making the street narrower, just making the lines narrower.
02:20:35.88	Karen Culligan	Things like that can make a huge difference in terms of safety.
02:20:38.63	Karen Culligan	terms of how a community feels in terms of how vulnerable
02:20:41.26	Karen Culligan	road users feel.
02:20:42.46	Karen Culligan	So paving is great, but we need to look at how to do things better. It shouldn't just be an afterthought. I think people are kind of rejoicing of like, oh, we'll pave now and fix it later. Like, all right, we're not actually going to fix it later.
02:20:52.01	Karen Culligan	We should be looking at doing these things now.
02:20:53.97	Karen Culligan	There's a particular concern
02:20:55.47	Karen Culligan	that I would like to see addressed tonight.
02:20:58.00	Karen Culligan	and it's for Bridgeway. And it's a concern about going backwards in terms of traffic calming.
02:21:02.73	Karen Culligan	and increasing the highwayification of Bridgeway.
02:21:06.07	Karen Culligan	And that has to do with the 12 foot travel lanes that are shown on the drawings. That's wider than pretty much anywhere I could measure on Bridgeway currently.
02:21:15.92	Karen Culligan	That's the typical lane on a freeway, and it encourages high speeds.
02:21:20.93	Karen Culligan	It then equally makes a bicycle lane, which is already substandard, even smaller. And so I would like to see city council direct staff that they should maintain travel lanes at 11 feet or less when next to a bike lane with the goal to increase the width of the bike lane with restriping.
02:21:38.38	Karen Culligan	That has two effects.
02:21:40.32	Karen Culligan	One is a traffic calming measure, a proven safety countermeasure. It slows down traffic that, you know, when you feel a narrower lane, you don't drive as fast versus feeling like it's a highway and wanting to go highway speeds.
02:21:51.14	Karen Culligan	And too, it creates more room for other users. So that's a benefit for our cyclists. It's a benefit for our pedestrians. And it's a benefit for the drivers as well, because you're going to have a lower accident rate and a lower likelihood.
02:22:02.85	Karen Culligan	of a serious injury when you have lower speeds. So please consider that change and direction for tonight. Thank you.
02:22:09.11	Unknown	Thank you.
02:22:10.51	Unknown	Next speaker is Alice Merrill.
02:22:15.07	Mayor Cox	Welcome back, Alice.
02:22:16.69	Alice Merrill	Thank you.
02:22:18.34	Alice Merrill	I'm just grateful that you've
02:22:20.52	Alice Merrill	just decided to go ahead and get the streets paved.
02:22:23.94	Alice Merrill	And then
02:22:24.92	Alice Merrill	and think about
02:22:26.22	Alice Merrill	other kinds of ideas after that's been done and the money's been spent and we know what we have left.
02:22:31.61	Alice Merrill	before doing fancy stuff and not getting the streets paid. That's all. Thank you very much for listening to us. I appreciate it.
02:22:41.17	Alice Merrill	Thank you.
02:22:42.24	Unknown	Next speaker is Pat.
02:22:46.27	Susan Nemitz	Bye.
02:22:46.94	Susan Nemitz	Can you hear me? I'm here.
02:22:48.36	Susan Nemitz	It's...
02:22:48.43	Unknown	I hear you.
02:22:48.72	Susan Nemitz	Thank you.
02:22:49.31	Susan Nemitz	Um,
02:22:50.29	Susan Nemitz	A quick thumbs up to getting the paving done.
02:22:53.80	Susan Nemitz	including Easter Bee and Locust,
02:22:55.87	Susan Nemitz	Um,
02:22:56.97	Susan Nemitz	I live on Monty Mar and I have to second the comments that were made not long ago.
02:23:01.73	Susan Nemitz	Susan Nemitz- About the condition of Lower Monty Mar and Upper Monty Mar. It's a, it's a disgrace. Easter bee is a real disgrace. Susan Nemitz- And here we have a chance to get something constructive done. There may be better ways to do things which can be looked at in the future.
02:23:18.57	Susan Nemitz	Let us not wait for the perfect
02:23:20.86	Susan Nemitz	before doing the good
02:23:23.02	Susan Nemitz	I hope you approve the plans with Easter Bee and Locust, and let's get it done.
02:23:29.94	Susan Nemitz	Thank you, Pat.
02:23:30.55	Unknown	Thank you.
02:23:32.54	Unknown	No more further public speakers.
02:23:35.44	Mayor Cox	All right, I will close public comment. I will note for the record, and I am giving to the city clerk a petition that was handed up to us with 114 signatures that says, listen to residents, maintain our streets, don't narrow our streets. So I'm gonna give this to the city clerk to add as a correspondence to the.
02:23:57.58	Mayor Cox	Um,
02:23:58.85	Mayor Cox	this item. And with that, and I also do want to comment preliminarily that Montimar is the very first street on the plan. So Montimar is on there. All right. And so, um,
02:24:14.97	Mayor Cox	I'm going to lead off with a motion to authorize staff to proceed with soliciting for construction bids.
02:24:20.97	Mayor Cox	for a portion of the 2024 roadway rehabilitation project for an engineer's estimate of, I'm going to change this to 2.3 million construction, and to further study sustainability solution on specified roadways, and with the amendment that we will include locust and those portions of locust and Easter bee
02:24:48.83	Mayor Cox	that were included in the 2024 street rehabilitation project. Second.
02:24:53.90	Cassie	Can I just ask for a friendly? Yes, absolutely. Just in regards to the conversation, the comments that Councilmember Sobieski brought up in the letters of correspondence we received regarding bike safety. Could we direct staff as well to study the striping associated or would that be associated with this in context of the sustainability measures?
02:24:55.60	Mayor Cox	Yes.
02:25:11.89	Councilmember Hoffman	Can I be here?
02:25:12.04	Mayor Cox	I want to make sure that you have my second. Thank you. So I'm willing to accept, I'm willing to give direction to staff to study that and come back to us. I'm not willing that we're ready to send it, put these bid out tomorrow.
02:25:25.52	Councilman Sobey	Right, of course. Yeah, yeah, that's so. Well, in that same vein though, this is just paint on the street. I understand.
02:25:26.30	Mayor Cox	Yeah, yeah.
02:25:31.83	Councilman Sobey	I'm not willing to delay
02:25:32.98	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
02:25:33.01	Councilman Sobey	TODAY.
02:25:33.13	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
02:25:33.18	Councilman Sobey	I,
02:25:33.30	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
02:25:33.45	Councilman Sobey	It's the listening.
02:25:33.57	Mayor Cox	It's the listening.
02:25:34.18	Mayor Cox	forbids.
02:25:34.97	Ellie Gibbs	Thank you.
02:25:35.21	Councilman Sobey	Yeah, not delay, but when we could do it as a suburb motion, or it could be part of this one, which is before the paint is painted on the street.
02:25:42.92	Councilman Sobey	Let's have a report from the city attorney and Director McGowan about the appropriate lane width, taking into account our complete streets policy and what we learned about saving lives with traffic calming.
02:25:59.49	Mayor Cox	So I'm not willing to say before the paint is on the streets because I don't know if that's happening in August, and we're not coming back until September.
02:26:08.16	Unknown	What happened in August?
02:26:08.91	Mayor Cox	I mean, I doubt it. So but I fully endorse giving direction to come back to us with information for us to evaluate striping in a different manner.
02:26:21.88	Councilman Sobey	And it should be part of this project.
02:26:24.06	Councilman Sobey	I'd like to see if you need to...
02:26:26.27	Councilman Sobey	It should be part of this project.
02:26:27.91	Councilman Sobey	Okay.
02:26:28.43	Councilman Sobey	So I don't know how to do it to preserve your order, Mayor.
02:26:31.55	Councilman Sobey	if you could give us some help on how to make that.
02:26:34.17	Councilmember Hoffman	I don't think that's within the scope of what's in our staff report or what's noticed. Because we specifically say in the staff report that we're not talking about Bridgeway or we're not talking about road diets or narrowing. And I think if we're going to talk about that issue, that was a hot issue that many people weighed in on. And we specifically said we're not talking about narrowing roads. And that could be considered within the scope of what we say we're not talking about narrowing roads and that could be considered within the scope of what we say we're not talking about so I wouldn't want people to think I'm not showing up at the city council meeting I'm not weighing any further because we specifically said in the staff report we're not talking about narrowing roads so I don't want to put your issue at risk and we're willing to give direction for the staff to come back if we're going to change the striping we can change the striping
02:27:22.26	Councilmember Hoffman	That's not that tough.
02:27:23.29	Mayor Cox	I'm happy to say have the staff come back in September.
02:27:26.67	Mayor Cox	Is that doable? Yes. So I see a thumbs up. So my motion will be accompanied by direction to staff.
02:27:35.41	Mayor Cox	to return to us in one of our meetings in September to have a discussion regarding possibly changing the manner in which Bridgeway is striking.
02:27:46.04	Councilman Sobey	their recommendation.
02:27:48.40	Councilman Sobey	whatever McGillan's professional recommendation is.
02:27:49.60	Mayor Cox	to give on professional recommendations
02:27:51.50	Mayor Cox	Yeah.
02:27:52.43	Councilman Sobey	with all the stuff.
02:27:52.94	Mayor Cox	And I would want to hear from the city attorney as well regarding Caltrans' 12-foot standards. We're in tears and all that. Yeah.
02:27:58.90	Councilman Sobey	Yeah.
02:27:59.96	Councilman Sobey	Oh, I'm sorry. I said what the mayor said is the direction is for director McGowan to come back after talking to the city attorney and with all his expert knowledge about traffic and the direction from city council about complete streets and in September just report about what he thinks the lane width of Bridgeway should be.
02:28:18.50	Councilmember Hoffman	Well, let's talk about, let's do the motion first.
02:28:20.02	Mayor Cox	and then we can do it.
02:28:20.53	Councilmember Hoffman	Thank you.
02:28:20.55	Mayor Cox	So there's a motion in a second. We're about to have discussion on the motion. I'm not revising the motion. I'm adding to the motion direction to staff to return to us in September. The motion has already been seconded. It's now open for discussion.
02:28:36.41	Mayor Cox	Who would like to lead off?
02:28:39.73	Councilman Sobey	I guess I will. I'm proud. I know this has been going on for a while, but the budget that we approved four to one two months ago has the largest investment in infrastructure in Sausalito's history. And I'm really pleased that the road program of repaving started or was approved in November, which was one of the last meetings I got the honor of serving as mayor on. So I'm really pleased that this project gets to move forward. And at the same time, I am lamenting that we still have so much more work to do. There is a huge amount of deferred infrastructure in the city of Sausalito, literally tens of millions of dollars. So this is a good first step, but there is so much more to do. and i hope that we can have a future meeting and meetings to talk about where we're going to find the money to to literally get the tens of millions of dollars we need to have first class infrastructure in town but i'm really excited for this step i'm also a little um it would be remiss on me not to lament the public angst created by the way the communication
02:28:42.87	Mayor Cox	You know?
02:29:45.11	Councilman Sobey	filter occurs in town as you saw
02:29:49.43	Councilman Sobey	No one even talked about narrowing Easter bee from top to bottom. It was...
02:29:53.38	Councilman Sobey	three spots that are red curbs currently
02:29:56.97	Councilman Sobey	And that is not the entire street.
02:29:59.77	Councilman Sobey	Now, of course, you only see that when there's the actual presentation and the opportunity to engage. I do feel I think one of the public commenters, you know, highlighted how much we could benefit from a very deliberate way of moving forward with our design considerations when they affect people who live here in town. And so it would be good as part of future processes, whether it's around the bioretention or anything else, that we have a very prescribed public outreach mechanism so that we can get this kind of feedback early. Maybe, and I would love to speak with Ms. Rogers afterwards if she's willing to chat with me. I'm curious whether she would be in favor of buyer retention at those spots with the red curve or not. She lives on Easterby, and I'd love to hear from the Easterby residents about their opinion about those sorts of locations.
02:30:45.30	Mayor Cox	He's shaking your head now, but.
02:30:46.04	Councilman Sobey	No, but yeah. Okay. I didn't see where she is. So yeah, I mean that that feedback matters. But you know, it'd be good to understand exactly why. The fact of the matter, and this I think is really important just for the people that are still paying attention to know. This didn't come out of the blue. In 20, it was this is part of the general plan, which I think is, you know, a very expensive process to go through. But the mayor headed the GPAC.
02:31:08.96	Councilman Sobey	And it's actually a policy in the general plan to do this kind of work. So we're telling staff,
02:31:14.23	Councilman Sobey	to do it.
02:31:15.14	Councilman Sobey	We shouldn't.
02:31:16.47	Councilman Sobey	feel like we're getting sideswiped when they actually come back with the work product they're directed to do. In 2017, there was an actual resolution of the city council. I quoted that resolution. It's 5653. It's the complete streets policy, and it requires staff every time there is any repaving to look at the feasibility of the city council.
02:31:38.49	Councilman Sobey	narrowing the streets, installing bioswales, thinking about circulation,
02:31:43.15	Councilman Sobey	Uh, and so that is the policy I'm,
02:31:45.78	Councilman Sobey	forgot we were on a timer. That is actually the policy.
02:31:48.58	Councilman Sobey	So we got the work product, the policy came from, and now it's our job to decide what to do with it. And we're going to do it here today.
02:31:58.50	Mayor Cox	I'll follow on. I endorse, I loved what Adrienne Britton said about engaging in forward-looking designs, inviting designers to identify a city-wide plan
02:32:10.00	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
02:32:10.11	Mayor Cox	and conducting outreach. So I think throughout town,
02:32:13.51	Mayor Cox	we should look at what is possible.
02:32:16.06	Mayor Cox	I do not think
02:32:18.64	Mayor Cox	This is something that Director McGowan could have already done. We have been, we have just piled the work on him in the last several years with the
02:32:31.76	Mayor Cox	the downtown redesign with all kinds of,
02:32:35.41	Mayor Cox	Huge projects, repaving Edwards, just the Block 303,
02:32:41.37	Mayor Cox	We have really, and we hired two additional people to help him because there's just so much work to be done. So I do endorse that as a future effort. We have to prioritize that as something for staff to do. That is not in our priority list for this year to have staff examine the viability of complete streets, bioswales, retention ponds, and other features throughout town, that's something we have to put on our priority list for them to do. Our priority was to repave our streets, and we are moving forward with that. I'm very proud, as you are, to be doing that.
02:33:22.09	Mayor Cox	I am, you know, I, we are give, we've given direction to hear about Bridgeway. I, I,
02:33:27.50	Mayor Cox	I'm very concerned, as Jan Johnson mentioned, about the fact that Bridgeway is our major route out of town. So I don't I want to include emergency preparedness as a as an aspect of considering the viability of narrowing the lanes on Bridgeway. I agree that pavers are not suitable for a commercial application. I agree. Do not use El-Pertal as an experiment for cool paving.
02:33:55.38	Mayor Cox	And
02:33:56.51	Mayor Cox	Um,
02:33:58.08	Mayor Cox	those are my uh preliminary comments so i'll i'll yield to uh councilmember
02:34:05.98	Councilmember Hoffman	Hoffman.
02:34:07.90	Councilmember Hoffman	So, yeah, so we kind of went around the road on this. On July 1st, there was a motion on the consent calendar. There was a report and a request from our public works to approve the RFP to build our roads, our road rehabilitation plan.
02:34:29.94	Councilmember Hoffman	All of these streets were on it.
02:34:31.58	Councilmember Hoffman	and it was pulled off by Councilmember Sobieski.
02:34:34.89	Councilmember Hoffman	And it came back as this...
02:34:38.16	Councilmember Hoffman	completely new plan.
02:34:39.58	Councilmember Hoffman	as a
02:34:41.79	Councilmember Hoffman	different type of plan on our
02:34:44.45	Councilmember Hoffman	City Council agenda on the 15th.
02:34:47.19	Councilmember Hoffman	And the reason why people were rightfully upset was that this new plan included road diets,
02:34:54.38	Councilmember Hoffman	uh, specifically called out for Easterby locust, litho, tourney, pine, and spring. And this new concept specifically talked about narrowing these streets is specifically talked about removing parking is specifically talked about different types of concepts on the sides of these streets. So it's not that people reacted unnecessarily. This was what was spelled out in the staff report. So to call people, uh,
02:35:23.77	Councilmember Hoffman	unreasonable for being upset about what was happening in front of their homes. You know, I don't know why there would be finger wagging about that, because that is what was in the staff reports. The cool roadway systems was also in the staff reports.
02:35:40.46	Councilmember Hoffman	No outreach was made to the public. This was a completely different plan
02:35:45.31	Councilmember Hoffman	that was completely different
02:35:47.01	Councilmember Hoffman	than what was in a staff report.
02:35:48.95	Councilmember Hoffman	two weeks prior.
02:35:50.60	Councilmember Hoffman	So one street was completely taken off Easterby Street that hadn't been repaved in 65 years. There were lawsuits from Easterby Street from the poor pavements
02:36:02.62	Councilmember Hoffman	of Easterby Street. One lawsuit was from an elderly lady that was just trying to cross the street and fell down.
02:36:09.13	Councilmember Hoffman	in the last 10 years, 15 years,
02:36:11.55	Councilmember Hoffman	and sue the city. The other lawsuit was from
02:36:14.35	Councilmember Hoffman	As one of our speakers said was from a fire man who got out of a fire truck that was parked on Easterby Street and stepped in a pothole.
02:36:23.59	Councilmember Hoffman	and hurt his knee.
02:36:26.19	Councilmember Hoffman	Yes, people were upset.
02:36:28.27	Councilmember Hoffman	And we hadn't even seen a concept for the bioswells or the new catchment system until Friday, this past Friday.
02:36:37.45	Councilmember Hoffman	And it wasn't a plan. It wasn't a well-thought engineered plan. It was just some drawings on a map. There's a fire hydrant at that location. It's a very, very awkward uphill three-way
02:36:49.57	Councilmember Hoffman	intersection that is very congested.
02:36:53.93	Councilmember Hoffman	So there's a fire hydrant that fire trucks have to access.
02:36:58.48	Councilmember Hoffman	there's an entrance into 7-eleven and then there's another red zone the fire trucks parked there had anybody reached out to 7-eleven and asked about that which nobody did they would have been told that if anybody and I'll continue it when I get to speak again
02:37:13.70	Mayor Cox	Great. Who would like to go next, Vice Mayor or Council Member Blaustein? Go ahead, Vice Mayor.
02:37:20.72	Vice Mayor Woodside	Oh, can you hear me?
02:37:21.95	Mayor Cox	Yes.
02:37:22.52	Vice Mayor Woodside	you
02:37:22.67	Vice Mayor Woodside	Okay, thank you. Just very briefly, since I wasn't on the council in November, but I did pay attention,
02:37:29.36	Vice Mayor Woodside	I have seen this consistently as an effort to repave the streets.
02:37:34.70	Vice Mayor Woodside	And I've also seen
02:37:36.70	Vice Mayor Woodside	Historically, and member Sobieski reminded us that we do have a policy to consider alternatives as we go forward.
02:37:47.43	Vice Mayor Woodside	And I'm all in favor of considering them, but I have not seen at this point. What I've seen is the recommendation that we go forward on the paving.
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02:37:58.90	Vice Mayor Woodside	So I'm fully in support of that.
02:38:01.82	Vice Mayor Woodside	And I just want to caution everyone that to me, one of the biggest issues always will be public safety in any effort to redesign
02:38:12.73	Vice Mayor Woodside	a street, restripe it, reconfigure it. I think that has to be a number one factor. And I'm very reluctant to
02:38:23.12	Vice Mayor Woodside	encourage that notion that we should be designing them from the dais. And I don't think I'm hearing from any council member that that's what we want to do. But there may be an expectation from the public
02:38:34.95	Vice Mayor Woodside	that we should be doing that.
02:38:36.81	Vice Mayor Woodside	And we really shouldn't. We should listen to the experts, people who really understand
02:38:41.61	Vice Mayor Woodside	safety and traffic safety and rely on those kind of recommendations as we go forward. So I'm looking forward to seeing those in the future. But for now, I'm very happy to vote for the motion. Thank you.
02:38:54.42	Mayor Cox	Thank you. Councilmember Blaustein.
02:38:55.81	Cassie	Great. Thank you.
02:38:56.97	Cassie	I'm really thrilled that we in our budget set aside a essentially unprecedented amount of funding specifically for infrastructure, because as Councilmember Sobieski pointed out.
02:39:08.95	Cassie	What we heard consistently is we need to fix our roads and I agree there's certainly much work to be done, especially with regards to repaving our roads, and I just wanted to. acknowledge that I really appreciate all of the feedback that we received from all of the residents from each of these streets, whether it was Easterby or Coloma or locust be it in favor of or against the plan.
02:39:31.80	Cassie	I think that it's really exciting that we have such a collaborative and engaged community who want to weigh in. To that end, though, I do want to just make clear that at no point were we planning to not pave any of these roads. We are always going to prioritize, as we said in the budget and as we said in November and December, repaving these streets. And the conversations around complete streets are about forward thinking, looking ahead. How do we start to take steps to be more prepared for the impacts of climate change? How do we make our roads safer? How do we think about things like the fact that maybe in five to 10 years, we're
02:40:07.54	Cassie	no one will be driving their own cars and there'll be driverless cars and bikes on the road so we wouldn't be responsible policymakers if we weren't considering every potential path while agreeing to move forward and pave the streets so i'm thrilled that the roads are getting repaved that the work is starting and i hope that all of you show up as we're talking about what the streets can look like collaboratively going forward too so i noticed in public comment good we're roads. Great for you, go ahead down the road. And I hope that you all still show up for the down the road conversations when we think about what's appropriate and what it looks like. And as we get expert opinions and know that we will be paving the roads and trying to also forge a path that puts us in the best possible position for disaster preparedness, for climate resilience, and
02:40:52.09	Cassie	for improved roads and for safety overall. So I'm really excited to support
02:40:57.22	Cassie	the motion and i also look forward to hearing more from staff as we continue to vision for the better of the future of our community consistent with our general plan and our complete streets policy
02:41:08.98	Mayor Cox	Councilmember Sobieski.
02:41:10.77	Councilman Sobey	Yeah, well...
02:41:12.21	Councilman Sobey	since
02:41:13.86	Mayor Cox	He, this is his second, and then it's your second, and then my second. Okay, sorry. Okay.
02:41:18.99	Councilman Sobey	Yeah, just for the record, the item on July the 1st was not pulled off consent by me.
02:41:25.86	Councilman Sobey	So I think you may have...
02:41:27.14	Councilman Sobey	remember that, misremember that. The staff pulled it off on their own.
02:41:31.80	Councilman Sobey	I sent actually a letter to staff that day said I'm concerned that not hearing this item Tuesday could delay much needed street repair. So I'm so I'm not asking for it to be removed from the agenda. I think it is critically important to get some of these road project bids solicit solicitations out and move forward and hope and expect we will hear the item.
02:41:53.84	Councilman Sobey	but I would have removed it from consent because there was no plans attached as attachment number one and Jill and my other colleagues, we, we all settled this in November. I mean, at that meeting,
02:42:05.87	Councilman Sobey	I'll quote you at that meeting at two hours and 58 minutes and 20 seconds. You said most of our efforts, and this is about the pavement project, should be focused through climate resilience. This is a policy shift and a policy lens we should set as a policy change tonight.
02:42:22.75	Councilman Sobey	We said that in November.
02:42:24.20	Councilman Sobey	to look at these things through a climate resiliency lens.
02:42:27.55	Councilman Sobey	friend Janelle Kelman, running for Lieutenant Governor, sat here and at 2.29.53 seconds
02:42:33.31	Councilman Sobey	uh said roads are in not in great shape and we need some improvements for sure but we also need some better criteria on how we weigh those options and i think it has to expand from the current criteria of engineering and include risk management and climate solutions direction to staff is to prioritize green infrastructure in our planning and priorities and to explore vancouver like rain management water. If we keep looking at things as traffic problems, we will only find traffic solutions. We need things different and better. That's what Janelle said from this chair. It's a very nice chair. We have many priorities to balance, and nuance is often lost in turning up the volume to 10 and creating this sort of zero-sum game
02:43:15.14	Councilman Sobey	with uh scorekeeping and it shuts down conversation because of the brown act we can't talk offline there's not some back room where we go with beers and hash it all out i don't get to talk to jill or joan or melissa about these subjects
02:43:28.44	Councilman Sobey	And you're often hearing about it for the first time when it's agendized, because we're talking about it for the first time. So this is how we all learn about it together.
02:43:35.97	Councilman Sobey	And so, you know, again, I'd be really interested in talking to Ms. Rogers about why she doesn't want, because she's an environmentalist. I'm sorry I'm picking on you, but it's like you're an environmentalist and you still wouldn't want one bioswale by the red curb. I'd like to understand why, but that's how we do it here.
02:43:52.03	Councilman Sobey	I think it doesn't serve any of us to turn the volume up to 10. I think these things get on the agenda. And the staff writes the staff report, and we pull it apart here, up here, and we get to the conclusions we get. And this is a good conclusion. We're repaving the streets, and we're giving direction to staff to implement our longstanding policies since 2017 to look at environmental solutions that
02:44:16.80	Councilman Sobey	future hopefully Lieutenant Governor Kelman and all this unanimously and
02:44:20.55	Councilman Sobey	voted on.
02:44:22.02	Councilman Sobey	2017 resolution by Mary with me that was also unanimous.
02:44:26.59	Mayor Cox	So I went next, and then you. So I do endorse fully examining those issues. The issue that we had with this particular
02:44:37.27	Mayor Cox	staff report and agenda item is the manner in which this the undertaking of this work was communicated so in the staff report it was presented as a fait accompli rather than
02:44:49.78	Mayor Cox	here's an education about things that you could consider about the network of streets throughout town. As we embark on this paving project, I'd like you to also think about
02:45:00.73	Mayor Cox	meeting our general plan goal and our complete streets policy to consider and also consider what the Sustainability Commission has recommended because I didn't know they had recommended anything until I heard it tonight. So all I'm suggesting is that
02:45:18.14	Mayor Cox	We get the paving going, but we also establish a priority and say, listen, now that we're embarking on this great infrastructure project, let's also, as Adrian said,
02:45:28.99	Mayor Cox	figure out how we can make the project even better by examining other things that we can accomplish, perhaps at the same time,
02:45:35.63	Mayor Cox	Perhaps as an add-on,
02:45:37.25	Mayor Cox	But the manner in which we communicate, when I first ran for office in 2010,
02:45:41.50	Mayor Cox	I ran on transparency.
02:45:43.27	Mayor Cox	and it was residents first, and we need to be transparent about the work that we do.
02:45:47.69	Mayor Cox	It's really important that when we're considering installing bioswales and traffic calming measures and narrowing streets and putting in bike lanes, that we communicate that to our residents so they can come back and say, hey, Coloma Street, there's already, as wise as it is, there's already not enough room. So, and people like Lorette, we have such an incredibly intelligent and well-informed community, we need to take advantage of them. So all I'm suggesting is that our process
02:46:15.87	Mayor Cox	be tweaked just a little bit so that we carry out what we said we wanted to do in November of 2024
02:46:22.44	Mayor Cox	But we also
02:46:24.26	Mayor Cox	think bigger picture and I think you were largely responsible council member for having staff
02:46:29.93	Mayor Cox	look at this through a complete streets lens and look at this through a sustainability lens, just the manner that we communicate with the community. We just want to avoid panic and we want their feedback. So that's, that's, that's my perspective.
02:46:42.97	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
02:46:43.01	Councilmember Hoffman	Councilmember Hoffman, thank you so much. So let me address the policy shift issue. I did, I have no doubt that I said that, but one of the issues I think that when I did say that, I was reporting from the Cal Cities Conference in a report that,
02:46:59.82	Councilmember Hoffman	At that time in October of 2024,
02:47:02.84	Councilmember Hoffman	Most of the federal grants
02:47:05.06	Councilmember Hoffman	that were coming down were in the
02:47:08.00	Councilmember Hoffman	were for climate change. And so, yes, of course, of course we need to look at climate change and infrastructure
02:47:19.51	Councilmember Hoffman	That landscape has changed dramatically between then and now. And so, of course, we want to look at these things and sustainability as an ongoing policy issue, of course.
02:47:30.04	Councilmember Hoffman	But
02:47:31.19	Councilmember Hoffman	At that point, I think if I went back and looked at my statements, I would say we would need to do a policy shift because that's where all the money is raining down from the federal government at this point.
02:47:40.10	Councilmember Hoffman	That landscape has changed dramatically since then. So just to explain the context, I would not call what has happened in the last week collaborative. I would say that people have been outraged by seeing that their road was removed and that there was a plan to narrow their roads and they were mobilized and they had to act. And I would not like to see that happen again.
02:47:45.90	Unknown	I'm not sure.
02:48:04.04	Councilmember Hoffman	And so if we go around and the next time this comes back, I would hope that before something comes back and we'll talk about this in direction to council or direction, but.
02:48:15.53	Councilmember Hoffman	Before anything comes back to Council, I would want it seen run through the filter of
02:48:20.07	Councilmember Hoffman	input from
02:48:21.46	Councilmember Hoffman	our public safety officers and honest input from our public safety officers and meaning that I want honest input from our. Police Department on the safety impacts from narrowing any lanes or widening lanes, whatever their honest impact is impact of.
02:48:39.58	Councilmember Hoffman	any action that we would take.
02:48:41.27	Councilmember Hoffman	from increased traffic safety.
02:48:44.09	Councilmember Hoffman	and honest impact from our Southern Marin Fire Department.
02:48:47.61	Councilmember Hoffman	of removing lanes or increasing lanes. I will tell you that what I was going to say about the rest of that intersection by 7-Eleven is that you have huge semi-trucks that have to deliver groceries that are there almost every morning. They need that wide turn radius when they come out of 7-Eleven. And I talked with our public works director about that today. And he's offered to do a ride-along with some of the semi-trucks. I don't know if our 7-Eleven owner is willing to set that up, but they need that wide turnaround. They take a left-hand turn there, and then they use the two lanes on Bridgeway to turn out. So, you know, some of the public comment that we've received to remove lanes on bridgeway as part of this staff report because some of the comments in the staff report were to remove lanes on bridgeway and insertion of bike lanes that was that was actually in the staff report so anyway if we come back uh when we bring this back I would expect the safety reports to be in there as well. I'm excited that we're going to approve this. Councilmember, thank you. Thanks.
02:49:57.53	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
02:49:58.12	Mayor Cox	Thanks.
02:50:00.31	Mayor Cox	No worries. Anyone else?
02:50:02.52	Mayor Cox	Okay, I'm going to call the question. I would like to add to my motion that we not do the cool ceiling on El Portal. I don't know yet whether I see Ali shaking his head yes. I think that's already been removed, but I want to do add that.
02:50:17.93	Mayor Cox	as an aspect of the motion. And so with that, I'll call the question. City Clerk. Oh, will you second my amended motion, Council Member? Yes. Okay. City Clerk.
02:50:27.09	Councilmember Hoffman	Yes.
02:50:30.89	Unknown	Council member Blossy.
02:50:31.92	Mayor Cox	Yeah.
02:50:32.03	Vice Mayor Woodside	Thank you.
02:50:32.05	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
02:50:32.07	Vice Mayor Woodside	Thank you.
02:50:32.90	Unknown	Councilmember Hoffman? Yes. Councilmember Sobieski? Yes. Vice Mayor Woodside? Yes. And Mayor Cox?
02:50:40.15	Mayor Cox	Yes, that motion carries five zero. Congratulations, everybody. Thank you so much. Thank you so much to the public for all of your feedback.
02:50:48.22	Mayor Cox	All right, let's take five minutes.
02:50:51.17	Mayor Cox	and
02:50:54.29	Mayor Cox	I don't see the vice mayor.
02:50:57.20	Unknown	Thank you.
02:50:57.21	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
02:50:57.23	Unknown	We're back.
02:51:00.28	Mayor Cox	Okay. All right. There he is. All right. We're going to resume. I'm going to seek another amendment to our agenda. So I'm going to ask that we hear, um,
02:51:10.38	Mayor Cox	three G
02:51:12.50	Mayor Cox	now and then we'll move on to 5B.
02:51:16.45	Mayor Cox	So originally we were going to hear 3G at the end of the night, but if we don't pass it tonight, there will be bad consequences. So I'm going to move it to now at staff's request. Anybody object?
02:51:22.51	Unknown	because
02:51:30.31	Mayor Cox	Seeing none.
02:51:32.13	Councilmember Hoffman	Is Brandon in the room? Isn't he our assistant?
02:51:37.68	Councilmember Hoffman	He just walked out.
02:51:41.81	Councilmember Hoffman	Assistant City Manager Phipps,
02:51:47.62	Mayor Cox	I've got him running here.
02:51:49.68	Mayor Cox	Someone's running here who looks like Brandon. That's Director McGowan.
02:51:51.13	Councilmember Hoffman	like Brandon.
02:51:52.83	Councilmember Hoffman	Oh.
02:52:07.24	Mayor Cox	Is he here?
02:52:10.84	Mayor Cox	Oh, here he comes.
02:52:14.65	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
02:52:21.13	Mayor Cox	Hello, Assistant City Manager Phipps. Sorry you didn't get the memo, but staff asked that I move this up to now.
02:52:28.59	Director Phipps	Well, pleased to be informed that we're hearing the item now and very happy to be here.
02:52:33.32	Mayor Cox	Okay, so I'm going to start off by, this was pulled by Councilmember Hoffman. Can you state why it was pulled?
02:52:38.82	Mayor Cox	And then if we need a staff report, we can.
02:52:40.77	Councilmember Hoffman	Sure. Hear it.
02:52:41.53	Councilmember Hoffman	Sure. Yeah. I've discussed this with Director Phipps. I had a couple of questions.
02:52:46.93	Councilmember Hoffman	Sorry, I had a couple of questions about the current funding that was left over from last year. I had a couple of questions about the level of participation with the property owners. And then I had a couple of suggestions for how to move forward. And so I don't know if you want to give the full staff report there. I don't know if anybody else is interested in that or if that's necessary. I'm happy to give the- I can phrase my question in such a way that you wouldn't have to do that. It's up to you. Yeah.
02:53:09.51	Director Phipps	I'm happy to give the...
02:53:13.80	Director Phipps	Yeah, I'm happy to give a very brief summary. This evening, what's before council is kind of the endorsement and approval of the PBIDs work plan and budget. And this is a required step that business improvement districts must take on an annual basis. This is also something that's called out and echoed in the disbursement agreement by and between City of Sausalito and the DS BIDA, the Downtown Sausalito Business Improvement District Association, which I believe is going under the DBA of Downtown Sausalito Association or something to that effect.
02:53:16.33	Councilmember Hoffman	Um,
02:53:52.33	Director Phipps	within the work plan and budget that you've been provided as an attachment, it kind of goes through a summary of, okay, where did we start and where are we now? Some of the items that have been highlighted are the priority setting actions that the board has taken in the past. It tells you how the board has voted on what is seen as priorities in the city. You'll also see a summary list of some of the actions that have been taken and that we'd like to celebrate as a group here so that you folks know some of the good work that the PBID has been engaged in. And of course, as is required, some summary of how the budget has been constructed and approved by the board members.
02:54:37.33	Director Phipps	And of course, all of this is
02:54:41.28	Director Phipps	hearkening back to the document that council approved that underpins this district, the management district plan and the engineer's report. And I'll leave it at that.
02:54:53.24	Mayor Cox	Great, are there any questions of staff?
02:54:55.20	Councilmember Hoffman	Councilmember
02:54:55.64	Mayor Cox	off
02:54:55.98	Councilmember Hoffman	Sure. So the first year that we operated, that was last year, correct?
02:55:02.25	Director Phipps	Actually incorrect. The Pbid was formed on January 1, 2025.
02:55:04.04	Councilmember Hoffman	I'm not sure.
02:55:07.66	Councilmember Hoffman	Okay, so we're still in the first year? Is that how you would characterize it then?
02:55:10.93	Director Phipps	Depending on how you calculate year, we would be in the first calendar year and we just transitioned fiscal years.
02:55:16.50	Councilmember Hoffman	and
02:55:18.50	Councilmember Hoffman	Okay, gotcha. Okay, so in the first year, how much money was raised? I mean, the budget was how much?
02:55:27.40	Director Phipps	in the first year
02:55:29.54	Director Phipps	This year, the budget is $235,526.
02:55:34.94	Councilmember Hoffman	And that was 120,000 from the city and
02:55:39.83	Director Phipps	Approximately $117,763 from the city, and same from private property owners.
02:55:46.28	Councilmember Hoffman	Well, okay, but how much was collected from the private property owners? It wasn't 117. It was 80% of that.
02:55:53.40	Director Phipps	Yeah, very fair point, and appreciate you bringing that up. The city has engaged in year one assessment collections on behalf of the county of Marin. And what we have arrived at is a collection of the vast majority of assessments, I'd say, but there are still a few assessments that have not yet been received to the tune of approximately $26,000. That number has come down, of course, marginally as we receive assessment payments. And I believe the exact number of folks, properties, who have not yet paid are 10.
02:56:31.35	Councilmember Hoffman	So 10, 10 property owners and approximately 20% of the property owner
02:56:36.84	Councilmember Hoffman	apportionment.
02:56:39.30	Unknown	Yeah.
02:56:39.71	Director Phipps	Yes, I'd agree with that.
02:56:39.94	Councilmember Hoffman	Thank you.
02:56:40.01	Councilmember Hoffman	I'd agree with you.
02:56:40.75	Councilmember Hoffman	Okay, and currently in their
02:56:46.09	Councilmember Hoffman	leftover, I guess you could say from the last fiscal year, is $178,500.
02:56:56.62	Director Phipps	So let's just go back to the report so I don't misstate any numbers. And I will just state also for the record that the executive president of the PBIT is here, and she may be better suited than I to discuss some of these items. So Cass Green, hey, good to see you. As far as the revenues that have been collected, $195,000.
02:57:22.69	Councilmember Hoffman	Okay.
02:57:23.87	Director Phipps	And as far as the expenditures that the bid has engaged in since its formation on January 1 of this year, 16,754. That leaves us with a net of approximately 178,000, which we have identified some budgetary items and kind of pinned these funds on for future actions.
02:57:44.03	Councilmember Hoffman	Okay.
02:57:44.86	Councilmember Hoffman	Um,
02:57:46.47	Councilmember Hoffman	So, okay, so maybe I misunderstood, but I thought we, I'm not trying to trip anybody up. I'm just trying to get at, there was money left in the budget, and I thought it was 178, about 178,000 going forward.
02:57:57.43	Councilmember Hoffman	Okay.
02:57:57.92	Director Phipps	that is correct
02:57:58.61	Councilmember Hoffman	Okay. And for the property owners, the approximately 20% of the property owners that haven't paid
02:58:05.67	Councilmember Hoffman	there was a plan to hire a third-party collection agency to proceed to collect from those property owners, correct?
02:58:17.47	Director Phipps	Correct. And I'll just state that staff has taken that upon themselves as well. We understand that as a city collecting assessments, folks may not be so familiar with that kind of collection system, considering people are used to receiving an annual property tax bill. So I can appreciate that this is a process that goes above and beyond what may be typical for private property owners, and we want to make sure we're being transparent with those owners within the district. So to that effect, we've recently sent out a courtesy notice reminding folks of their responsibilities and their unpaid assessments and kindly request that they pay them promptly. Our consultant that we are ideating a contract with, we haven't yet committed to that contract. This is something that is typical for cities. They hire some assistants to assist with the...
02:59:09.61	Director Phipps	defining of assessments on an annual basis to the county
02:59:13.42	Director Phipps	and assist in tracking those assessments over time. So for example,
02:59:17.07	Director Phipps	If a structure has improved square footage added to it and it's in the bid area, the entire formula of assessments within the bid changes. And it's our job to make sure we're tracking those. So that's one of the other elements that this ideating contract, we have not yet committed to it, may contain.
02:59:35.04	Councilmember Hoffman	And so at some point, we had talked about this, and I had talked about this with the city manager. We were hiring somebody else to do that, but now you're telling me that the staff is doing that? Our city staff is doing that?
02:59:51.05	Director Phipps	City staff have been assisting with the administration of the district since its inception.
02:59:57.72	Unknown	Thank you.
02:59:58.60	Director Phipps	And part of the actions that we've taken to assist the district include collecting year one assessments on behalf of the county of Marin.
03:00:08.03	Councilmember Hoffman	Okay, and originally when this was presented to us as a city council, it was presented as if the county was going to collect this money, but now...
03:00:15.94	Councilmember Hoffman	That hasn't happened this first year.
03:00:19.30	Director Phipps	You know, I'm not, I don't recall exactly how this item was presented over the times, multiple times that we've heard it. But I can say that this has been a consistent narrative for some time.
03:00:33.76	Unknown	Okay.
03:00:33.85	Councilmember Hoffman	Thank you.
03:00:33.86	Unknown	Thank you.
03:00:35.30	Councilmember Hoffman	Thank you. That's all my questions.
03:00:38.08	Cassie	Any oh go ahead sure. Hi, director Phipps and hi Cassie. I appreciate that you're here. I serve on the PVID, although the last few meetings have conflicted, unfortunately, with my work schedule, but I
03:00:48.97	Cassie	um,
03:00:50.05	Cassie	wanted to ask a couple of questions specifically about the timing and the approval of the budget. So when was the first official meeting of the PBID?
03:00:58.20	Cassie	as a group.
03:00:59.13	Director Phipps	I'd have to look that up online.
03:01:00.82	Cassie	But it was mid-January 20, after January 20, 25th.
03:01:05.51	Director Phipps	Correct.
03:01:06.25	Cassie	And the fiscal year ended June 30th.
03:01:09.88	Director Phipps	This most recent fiscal year, yes.
03:01:11.97	Cassie	in advance of that it was the first preliminary meetings of the pbid to discuss how they would want
03:01:18.35	Cassie	expend their funds essentially.
03:01:20.64	Director Phipps	Absolutely. So, so thank you for bringing that up. And I'm happy to speak to that a little bit more if you'd like me to expand.
03:01:29.25	Director Phipps	It is more common that the formation of a bid aligns with fiscal year, such that the formation of the bid can also align itself more perfectly, I'd say, or optimally with the receipt of property taxes. So that's neither here nor there. You know, this bid formed on January 1, 2025. We were excited to form it.
03:01:49.90	Director Phipps	Thank you.
03:01:49.97	Director Phipps	One of the items that
03:01:53.57	Director Phipps	That kind of counts, though, is you need to have revenue in order to spend it. And it took a little bit of time for the bid to receive their first year of assessments.
03:02:01.61	Director Phipps	With that said, the bid has taken
03:02:04.40	Director Phipps	what I would call a significant amount of actions to, you know, just get the ball rolling, right, to form the district, to establish the board. They've held seven board meetings since the formation, so I would say that's fairly significant as well. We have bylaws. There's necessary paperwork we need to file with the state of the IRS. There's a strategic process, as council knows, that needs to be done at a public meeting. There's a strategic process around identifying what actions we'd like to take. We've issued... a strategic process, as council knows, that needs to be done at a public meeting. There's a strategic process around identifying what actions we'd like to take. We've issued an RFP and hired a consultant to assist with the administration of the district. And of course, certain more physical and visual items that you folks may have reviewed or observed in the city, such as hanging flower baskets, cafe tables, and chairs as temporary furniture, and installation of lighting on Tracy Way. And those are the first three low-hanging fruit actions that the bid has taken. There is a list in the report provided that kind of highlights some of the others that we intend to take.
03:03:08.19	Cassie	So, so far we have those amazing tables downtown, the hanging baskets, lighting. That's great. I just want to understand...
03:03:14.19	Cassie	for people who might be asking councilmember Hoffman brought up you know there's funds that are unspent when given this the structure and timing and the expectation for receiving revenue again when is the next
03:03:26.68	Cassie	distribution of funds.
03:03:28.91	Cassie	And such that that might explain why there is essentially a carryover.
03:03:32.94	Director Phipps	Well, for those of you who own property, you may be able to answer this question yourselves. But what I can say is the deadline for the city to submit to those assessment values to the county so that they can prepare their property tax bills is the end of July. So I'm happy that we're hearing this item this evening. And we will be, you know, totally in accordance with at least our obligations as related to making sure the county is informed.
03:03:58.90	Director Phipps	As related to property tax payments, I think that you received them in a number of installments. I don't recall the exact dates. Is it something like December and March? November and March.
03:04:13.49	Director Phipps	Yeah.
03:04:13.56	Cassie	So you won't be receiving funds again until at least November or March? March. Okay.
03:04:19.06	Cassie	Okay.
03:04:19.87	Cassie	Okay, so that explains the timing. Okay, great. I just wanted to clarify that for folks who were interested. Thank you for the questions.
03:04:25.25	C.G. Ware	Thank you.
03:04:25.29	Unknown	THE COURT.
03:04:25.46	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
03:04:25.48	Unknown	questions.
03:04:26.08	Cassie	Thank you.
03:04:27.82	Mayor Cox	Other questions? All right, I'm going to open it up to public comment. Any speaker cards?
03:04:33.79	Unknown	See you then.
03:04:35.90	Mayor Cox	Okay, I'm gonna, and no one online?
03:04:38.50	Unknown	No one on that.
03:04:39.25	Mayor Cox	I'm going to close public comment. Who would like to make a motion?
03:04:44.80	Mayor Cox	some comments first before you. Oh yeah, I'm gonna get a motion and then we'll have comments.
03:04:49.45	Councilman Sobey	I'll make a motion to adopt the resolution, which is attachment three approving the downtown Sausalito business improvement district association budget for fiscal year 2025 26.
03:04:59.27	Cassie	Second.
03:04:59.90	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
03:05:00.42	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
03:05:00.44	Councilmember Hoffman	All right, any discussion?
03:05:02.43	Councilmember Hoffman	Yes.
03:05:04.32	Councilmember Hoffman	And a possible amendment to, a friendly amendment perhaps to the motion.
03:05:10.51	Councilmember Hoffman	I am concerned. Well, I'm not concerned, actually. I think I would like to move toward more independence of the business improvement district from the staff and more independence from further financial support from the city. So if the business improvement district is having trouble with collections or assessments from the property owners that are supposed to support the Business Improvement District and that I believe. business improvement district is having trouble with collections or assessments from the property owners that are supposed to support the business improvement district, then that, I believe that expense should be borne by, logically borne by the business improvement district, not the city. I think that, based on my conversations with director, well, it's not director anymore, assistant city manager Phipps, I think he's spent a substantial amount of time in his role as the secretary of the, is it, secretary, is that your role with the business improvement district? I think it's time that he start transitioning away from that and city staff start transitioning away from that role with the business improvement district and that the policy be that the business improvement district be more independent and that we have a city representative, but not somebody that sits on the board. And so, and that, and that,
03:06:35.43	Councilmember Hoffman	maybe the direction be that next year, the city look at our matching funds would occur.
03:06:47.56	Councilmember Hoffman	upon at this point when we get the annual report, because tonight what we're doing is we're authorizing another annual payment to the business improvement to this district of $120,000. And I think the policy should be that we provide our payment
03:07:06.68	Councilmember Hoffman	are matching payment when the business improvement district property owners are also 100% matching. So the fact that the property owners are only at 80% and that they have to go and have to actually hire an outside person to collect is problematic. Because the representations were made to us was that the property owners were supportive and that it was a wonderful thing and that they were voluntarily taxing themselves. And the fact that somebody's going to have to hire a third-party collector indicates that that's not true. And so I'm happy to know that they have $178,000 to move forward, but I'm concerned that the property owners are not 100 percent supportive so that would be my friendly amendment i don't know if it will be accepted but my friendly amendment would be that um
03:08:02.57	Councilmember Hoffman	if we approve it this year, that next year the policy is that the city
03:08:07.65	Councilmember Hoffman	Wait.
03:08:08.23	Councilmember Hoffman	I'm doing a friendly amendment.
03:08:09.68	Councilmember Hoffman	Oh, my comments are done, and now I'd like to offer a friendly amendment to the motion.
03:08:14.42	Councilmember Hoffman	My friendly amendment is that going forward, that the city fund the business improvement district, once it's shown that the property owners are 100% also participating and that any collection efforts are funded by the bid.
03:08:37.57	Councilman Sobey	City Attorney Rudin, is that covered by the agenda item?
03:08:37.77	Councilmember Hoffman	I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
03:08:43.70	City Attorney Rudin	No, it is not. And the action that is actually before the council night is to approve the annual report of the association.
03:08:52.56	City Attorney Rudin	This action is under the PBID law of 1994, and the approval of the APORA is necessary in order to levy the assessments for the next fiscal year.
03:09:03.22	City Attorney Rudin	Now,
03:09:04.20	City Attorney Rudin	The assessments should have been collected last year by the county tax assessor. There was some concern by the county tax collector about the validity of the resolution forming the PIBID district and
03:09:15.40	City Attorney Rudin	the discrepancy between the tax year
03:09:18.41	City Attorney Rudin	and the year formation, which resulted in
03:09:22.34	City Attorney Rudin	The tax collector saying we have concerns about us collecting the assessments, but the city certainly is entitled to collect them.
03:09:30.24	City Attorney Rudin	Um,
03:09:31.30	City Attorney Rudin	because really the tax collector at the county works
03:09:34.90	City Attorney Rudin	as an agent of the city.
03:09:36.43	City Attorney Rudin	with regards to this district.
03:09:38.74	City Attorney Rudin	Um,
03:09:40.46	City Attorney Rudin	The council's approval of this report would authorize the levy of the assessments for the next fiscal year, which we understand the tax collector would collect on the regular tax roll.
03:09:51.62	City Attorney Rudin	So,
03:09:53.02	City Attorney Rudin	That should avoid this issue being a repeat
03:09:56.97	City Attorney Rudin	Certainly,
03:09:59.13	City Attorney Rudin	I'm going to engage in some further discussions with county council and the tax collector about
03:10:04.33	City Attorney Rudin	their position on this because I do think that the tax collector can collect these assessments.
03:10:09.59	City Attorney Rudin	Um,
03:10:11.19	City Attorney Rudin	So we should engage in that effort.
03:10:13.77	City Attorney Rudin	further.
03:10:16.51	City Attorney Rudin	with regards to the prior year assessments.
03:10:19.41	City Attorney Rudin	Um,
03:10:20.74	City Attorney Rudin	So the action before the council this evening is just approving the report, which does authorize the levy of assessments for the next fiscal year.
03:10:28.76	City Attorney Rudin	Whether or not the council wants to direct that the city not pay its assessments, which...
03:10:34.36	City Attorney Rudin	would be assessed against the city property, would be a separate agenda item.
03:10:40.13	City Attorney Rudin	All right.
03:10:40.30	Unknown	Thank you.
03:10:41.23	Mayor Cox	Okay, so there's a motion pending. Any further discussion? I endorse the city attorney's recommendation, and I hope the assistant city manager is listening and will carry this out, that before we hire an independent third party to collect the 20% that we haven't yet collected from business owners, that we revisit with the city attorney the possibility of having the county on behalf of the city, as an agent of the city, assess those amounts on the upcoming tax rolls.
03:11:15.60	Mayor Cox	rate.
03:11:18.76	Councilmember Hoffman	Um,
03:11:19.57	Councilmember Hoffman	Thank you.
03:11:20.35	Councilmember Hoffman	City Attorney, is there anything that would prevent the business improvement district from paying for a third party collector?
03:11:28.19	City Attorney Rudin	I would have to look back at the management, uh,
03:11:31.42	City Attorney Rudin	the district management plan and the resolution of formation, because typically
03:11:37.04	City Attorney Rudin	the authorized uses would...
03:11:40.44	City Attorney Rudin	be limited to those purposes which the council authorized the formation of the district and the the contents of the management district plan that being said i do recall there was
03:11:51.58	City Attorney Rudin	a line item for administrative expenses, and this certainly would
03:11:55.61	City Attorney Rudin	count as an administrative expense, in my opinion.
03:11:58.42	Councilmember Hoffman	Okay.
03:11:58.96	Councilmember Hoffman	And next year, if we wanted to have the option to
03:12:03.72	Councilmember Hoffman	delay or not go forward with
03:12:06.92	Councilmember Hoffman	the assessment, that's the way, we would have to notice that in the agenda and the staff report, we would have to either do either or.
03:12:15.11	City Attorney Rudin	Yes, there's there is a public hearing process for this establishment of the district, which
03:12:21.35	City Attorney Rudin	would probably be the appropriate course of action if the city council chose not to levy assessments or authorize the relevy of assessments.
03:12:28.39	Councilmember Hoffman	Okay.
03:12:28.86	Mayor Cox	All right, thank you.
03:12:30.75	Mayor Cox	All right, I'm going to call the question city clerk.
03:12:33.79	Unknown	Councilmember Blastham.
03:12:35.03	Mayor Cox	Yes.
03:12:35.84	Unknown	I also remember Hoffman.
03:12:37.21	Mayor Cox	No.
03:12:38.21	Unknown	Councilmember Sobieski.
03:12:40.17	Unknown	Yes.
03:12:41.08	Unknown	Vice Mayor Woodside.
03:12:42.43	Unknown	Yes.
03:12:43.59	Unknown	and Mary Cox.
03:12:44.35	Unknown	Thank you.
03:12:44.37	Mayor Cox	Yes, that motion carries 4-1.
03:12:46.97	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
03:12:47.25	Mayor Cox	All right, we're now going to move on to item 5B,
03:12:51.66	Mayor Cox	Give direction to staff regarding proposed implementation of AB 413 daylighting at roadway crossing with marked and unmarked crosswalks excluding Bridgeway and Caledonia pending further review.
03:13:03.81	Mayor Cox	and review staff's recommendation on implementing the no parking areas. I will welcome back
03:13:04.58	Unknown	I'm very excited.
03:13:10.90	Mayor Cox	Kevin McGowan, our Public Works Director.
03:13:14.76	Kevin McGowan	Good evening again, Mayor, City Council. Thank you for your time this evening. I only have a few slides on this, and it is an interesting issue by itself. Next slide, please.
03:13:25.78	Kevin McGowan	So on October 10, 2023, the California State Assembly passed Bill No. 413, which was signed into law. This law amends the vehicle code and prohibits vehicle parking within 20 feet of a marked
03:13:40.48	Kevin McGowan	or unmarked crosswalk.
03:13:42.22	Kevin McGowan	Next slide.
03:13:44.86	Kevin McGowan	Thank you. The city's traffic consultant parametrics prepared a technical memorandum, which includes, which is included in your, your agenda item packet as attachment one, the technical memorandum provides detailed locations where parking should be removed based on the assembly bill or the law itself. Next slide.
03:14:08.88	Kevin McGowan	Staff prepared a basically a Google map type of approach to look at the entire city. And on this slide, it's not terribly clear, unfortunately, but looking at the entire city, we do have approximately 57 parking spaces that are impacted throughout the city itself. And that's next to marked and unmarked crosswalks. Next slide, please.
03:14:36.94	Kevin McGowan	So the city did initiate, our maintenance staff did start taking a look at some of these and marked 13 spaces, generally in the north part of Sausalito. And, you know, while staff is ready to proceed with the majority of these, no parking, marking the curbs as no parking, there are some key areas that we definitely need to study. And that's on Caledonia. The impact on Caledonia is pretty substantial. And so what we'd recommend to Council is that we would like to move forward with basically every other area in town, with the exception of Caledonia and Bridgeway, and perform some additional studies on that area so that we can exhaust all of our alternatives by looking at them. So next slide, please.
03:15:28.41	Kevin McGowan	As I mentioned, the report that you have as an attachment identifies 57 spaces that should be removed under the proposed assembly bill. Next slide.
03:15:40.17	Kevin McGowan	And the study also took a look at unmarked crosswalks. So we do have some intersections where we don't have an actual crosswalk, but we do have sidewalk that progresses from one street to the next. So those include 22 spaces throughout the city as well. Next slide.
03:15:58.55	Kevin McGowan	And again, as I mentioned just previously, staff does recommend proceeding with doing the work on most areas in the city, with the exception of Caledonia and Bridgeway. And that would include us notifying adjacent neighbors prior to actually marking it in red paint. And then moving forward in August to go ahead and mark those. In addition, we would move forward with our traffic engineer to look at caledonia and bridgeway to see if we've exhausted all the possible alternatives for those streets in order to incorporate and not remove as much parking as possible as as the bill says we should and this could include returning to council with some ideas on caledonia, such as changing it to a one-way. I know we've looked at this before in the past. Also looking at possible parking implications on that specific street. So that concludes my presentation.
03:16:53.48	Kevin McGowan	my presentation at this point on this item.
03:16:56.24	Mayor Cox	Thank you. We have some questions.
03:16:59.45	Mayor Cox	In reviewing the parametrics technical memorandum, it says that parametrics was engaged to examine every intersection within the city of Sausalito with and without a marked crosswalk and to determine the locations and number of intersections where prohibiting parking on the approach side of the intersection is required under state law.
03:17:18.05	Mayor Cox	There's no mention in here of examining possible traffic calming measures as a means to avoid losing as many parking spots. Did you engage parametrics to assist in that effort?
03:17:30.70	Kevin McGowan	Not specifically, and I think what you're referencing is taking a look at the law itself. It says that we could put in bike parking and other alternatives such as delivery drop-off. No, we didn't specifically do that, but we will when we take a look at Caledonia.
03:17:47.44	Mayor Cox	At our last meeting, I gave some suggestions for traffic calming measures and asked the staff examine those as a part of this project.
03:17:57.36	Mayor Cox	And in speaking with parametrics over, because I meet with them on other matters, they do have some suggestions that I did not mention regarding possible traffic calming measures. I think that was direction that we gave when this was last before us. And I think that's a really important task because parking, as you heard,
03:18:20.58	Mayor Cox	in the Marin Magazine.
03:18:22.04	Mayor Cox	there's this perception that there's inadequate parking throughout Sausalito.
03:18:26.64	Mayor Cox	that undertaking
03:18:28.55	Mayor Cox	Some of the measures I mentioned were
03:18:30.78	Mayor Cox	reducing speed limits, reducing the speed limit on Caledonia from 20 to 15. Parametrics tells me that would be a traffic calming measure using flashing crosswalks. The flashing crosswalk that we have right now in front of Dunphy Park is amazing.
03:18:48.92	Mayor Cox	People line up, people cross en masse, people see it from two blocks away. And so those are some of the ideas I mentioned as means to utilize an exemption. And one of the public comments we got to your staff report did talk about the use of traffic calming measures, as outlined in the statute, as a means to avoid having to lose so many parking spots. So is that something you can undertake, not just on Bridgeway in Caledonia, but can you ask parametrics before you go wholesale and remove 67, 66 spots throughout town? Is that something you can engage in?
03:19:29.03	Kevin McGowan	with parametrics on? I'd be happy to do that. I have reached out to them on the person who prepared the report, but I'll reach out to David Parisi as well.
03:19:38.75	Unknown	Okay.
03:19:39.10	Unknown	Thank you.
03:19:39.14	City Attorney Rudin	I would like to point out one issue is
03:19:43.80	City Attorney Rudin	There is nothing in the statute that allows the city...
03:19:47.52	City Attorney Rudin	specifically just because it has adopted or is considering traffic calming measures to avoid or allow parking in these areas where
03:19:56.40	City Attorney Rudin	Parking is prohibited under vehicle code
03:20:00.55	City Attorney Rudin	225-00N.
03:20:03.35	City Attorney Rudin	There is a provision that says that the city can establish a different site distance
03:20:09.12	City Attorney Rudin	And it has to do so by ordinance.
03:20:12.92	City Attorney Rudin	as long as it includes a finding that a different distance is justified by established traffic safety standards and then you have to mark it using paint or assign.
03:20:22.07	City Attorney Rudin	So...
03:20:23.69	City Attorney Rudin	I think the
03:20:25.14	City Attorney Rudin	issue raised by the mayor regarding traffic calming measures is that if you undertake those measures, they may result in a condition that is sufficient to justify a different distance from traffic.
03:20:39.08	City Attorney Rudin	in that particular location, but the city would still have to take action by ordinance as well.
03:20:44.87	Mayor Cox	Totally.
03:20:45.64	Mayor Cox	Agree.
03:20:46.52	Mayor Cox	We did have this discussion and I read out the provision in the statute that I'm referring to at our last city council meeting.
03:20:54.43	Mayor Cox	And so.
03:20:55.53	Mayor Cox	I'm just curious as to why we haven't made any effort to figure out what some of those measures could be and what ordinances we could adopt in order to preserve some of our precious parking throughout town. But I don't have it in front of me right now, but I did read out the very specific provision in AB 14 that allows us to make certain findings or take certain actions, as you said, to go.
03:21:23.00	Mayor Cox	reduce the
03:21:25.84	Mayor Cox	to increase the line of sight, thereby reducing the need for eliminating parking.
03:21:35.74	Mayor Cox	All right, those were my questions. Council Member Sobieski.
03:21:39.08	Councilman Sobey	Director McGowan, I have a question.
03:21:41.03	Councilman Sobey	Yeah.
03:21:41.43	Councilman Sobey	We heard earlier many members of the public when we were talking about bioswales and
03:21:48.86	Councilman Sobey	whatnot near them said, Hey, I would love to have some input into this.
03:21:53.50	Councilman Sobey	especially on Caledonia where you're
03:21:56.45	Councilman Sobey	identifying it's a big impact, something like 25% of the lost parking spaces under this implementation of this law might be on Caledonia.
03:22:05.46	Councilman Sobey	Is there a mechanism whereby you can bring in residents and business owners that live and work on Caledonia Street at the front end of the process with a sort of whiteboard brainstorming slash education session where they can feel like they've had input into the thought process that leads to certain ideas?
03:22:25.76	Kevin McGowan	We are your staff. If that's what you direct us to do, we can.
03:22:29.96	Kevin McGowan	At this point, I think the item I'm bringing before you was simply AB 413. This is what the code says. And like the mayor had mentioned, we have a little more homework to do on taking into account some other things.
03:22:30.05	Unknown	Thank you.
03:22:30.11	Unknown	Thank you.
03:22:45.22	Councilman Sobey	Okay, so if that's what we'd like you to do, you would ask a...
03:22:49.18	Councilman Sobey	to give you that explicit direction here. Sure. Okay. Thank you, sir.
03:22:55.92	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
03:22:58.08	Mayor Cox	All right. Seeing none, I'm going to open it up to public comment. I have one speaker card, David Parrish.
03:23:06.18	Mayor Cox	I don't see him, who is not here.
03:23:10.97	Mayor Cox	Okay. Yeah. Anyone online? City clerk?
03:23:14.18	Unknown	Yes, we'll start with Vicki Nichols.
03:23:17.38	Vicki Nichols	Welcome, Vicki.
03:23:19.96	Vicki Nichols	Hi, thank you, Mayor Cox and council members.
03:23:23.10	Vicki Nichols	Um,
03:23:24.32	Vicki Nichols	I just, as you know, recently moved off of Caledonia Street after over about 42 years
03:23:28.98	Vicki Nichols	years.
03:23:30.27	Vicki Nichols	Um,
03:23:31.14	Vicki Nichols	And I appreciate
03:23:34.31	Vicki Nichols	all the interest in
03:23:37.48	Vicki Nichols	increasing our businesses down there. This was a resident serving business that we know
03:23:41.93	Vicki Nichols	has evolved.
03:23:43.35	Vicki Nichols	um,
03:23:43.96	Vicki Nichols	to more service kind of orientation. We used to have more, we had cleaners, we had a little
03:23:49.63	Vicki Nichols	stationary store, et cetera, et cetera, that's no longer a current use.
03:23:54.05	Vicki Nichols	But it just seems to me that the residents have not been considered here. I'd like a survey. I don't think anybody...
03:24:02.47	Vicki Nichols	on the council
03:24:04.36	Vicki Nichols	and I don't mean this as a derogatory,
03:24:07.10	Vicki Nichols	I don't think you realize how many residences are on that Caledonia Street from Pine down to
03:24:13.83	Vicki Nichols	NAPA.
03:24:15.09	Vicki Nichols	There are no places to park for a lot of these residences that are older.
03:24:20.26	Vicki Nichols	You've increased the parking now till nine o'clock.
03:24:24.46	Vicki Nichols	So if you have a C sticker and no other place to park, you can't get down there any longer because you can have residential.
03:24:31.63	Vicki Nichols	or you can have business people, et cetera, down there. So,
03:24:34.60	Vicki Nichols	I would really like to engage with your parking commissioner
03:24:38.26	Vicki Nichols	Also,
03:24:39.21	Vicki Nichols	And these meetings that have been
03:24:41.12	Vicki Nichols	supposedly with the residents have been
03:24:43.76	Vicki Nichols	lip service for years.
03:24:45.67	Vicki Nichols	They're in the middle of the day. They're not well announced regularly.
03:24:49.79	Vicki Nichols	And what we always hear first is businesses and very rarely the residents. I am no longer there.
03:24:56.91	Vicki Nichols	and in a different area of town, but I'm certainly gonna advocate for this
03:25:00.44	Vicki Nichols	You also need a place for these trucks to do deliveries. You've mucked up the bottom
03:25:10.97	Vicki Nichols	Did we lose you, Vicki?
03:25:12.96	Vicki Nichols	I got cut off.
03:25:14.73	Vicki Nichols	But I just would like to add quickly that you've mucked up the delivery system with the parklets down at the other end of the street
03:25:21.82	Vicki Nichols	The one-way street with that is like a nightmare. And Mr. Parisi with all due respect,
03:25:28.01	Unknown	Sorry, it hurt that right now.
03:25:29.63	Vicki Nichols	So, City Clerk,
03:25:30.97	Mayor Cox	She was cut off.
03:25:32.38	Unknown	We had it in a couple of seconds.
03:25:33.93	Unknown	Do you want me to put her back on?
03:25:38.07	Mayor Cox	I don't know how long she was cut off, but I don't like cutting people off who were cut off before.
03:25:43.25	Unknown	I'm trying to be fair.
03:25:45.51	Unknown	you
03:25:45.55	Mayor Cox	Okay, who's next?
03:25:47.59	Unknown	But Bette McDougall.
03:25:52.78	Babette McDougall	Good evening and thank you. So I would just like to hearken a couple of items. First of all, if I think I understood where
03:26:00.14	Babette McDougall	Mr. Sobieski was headed
03:26:02.50	Babette McDougall	when he said, could we take a closer look?
03:26:05.12	Babette McDougall	I know my neighborhood. I live...
03:26:07.84	Babette McDougall	where Litho and Girard become a pedestrian footpath. And just within this range of the sidewalk thing, there's a storm drain, there's an ADA curb,
03:26:21.76	Babette McDougall	There's all manner of stuff. And then there are residents who are determined to pack the place with their vehicles. So frankly, neighborhood by neighborhood, there will be some exceptions. So, and I don't know how to resolve those exceptions, but I'm all for the good ideas.
03:26:39.66	Babette McDougall	The other thing with regard to Caledonia, this is a really good example in general.
03:26:44.61	Babette McDougall	of why the distance is being sought in the first place
03:26:49.58	Babette McDougall	I'm a good example that now that I can
03:26:52.12	Babette McDougall	move around town again.
03:26:54.02	Babette McDougall	You know, I mostly look down instead of up. So every chance I have a chance to look up,
03:26:58.78	Babette McDougall	It's a really good thing. So having vision around me when I look up matters. So when you're hemmed in and boxed in by the many trucks that do have
03:27:09.21	Babette McDougall	a need to deliver their goods or else there is no commerce on our street.
03:27:14.92	Babette McDougall	I think we just need to look at this big picture carefully. And I'm all for the results that we end up with.
03:27:21.61	Babette McDougall	I do see that we have some unique events that we need to address. Thank you so much for the time.
03:27:30.03	Unknown	Next week.
03:27:30.54	Unknown	Next speaker is Peter Van Meter.
03:27:39.49	Peter Van Meter	Can you hear me?
03:27:41.63	Peter Van Meter	Thank you so glad that you have excluded the knee jerk reaction of removing these spaces on Caledonia and Bridgeway the law, as you, Madam Mayor have cited allows a lot of flexibility, in my opinion.
03:27:56.78	Peter Van Meter	And I would just simply add that your direction to staff
03:28:00.07	Peter Van Meter	should really be in the context of working to
03:28:03.97	Peter Van Meter	Thank you.
03:28:04.12	Peter Van Meter	Take the most liberal interpretation of the law as you possibly can to minimize the amount of parking spaces that would be lost on Caledonia Street. That street struggles right now as a retail district. Every parking space matters. And if you lose, even one makes a difference. And so we want to comply with the law as much as we do.
03:28:27.22	Peter Van Meter	must, but not as much as we think we could to the maximum degree in my opinion. There's a subtle balance here. So it requires direction to staff to say,
03:28:38.21	Peter Van Meter	Let's see what we can do in compliance
03:28:42.02	Peter Van Meter	to preserve as much parking as possible.
03:28:44.62	Peter Van Meter	Thank you.
03:28:47.29	Unknown	Next speaker is Lauren Lil Willow.
03:28:55.12	Lauren Little Willow	Hello.
03:28:56.35	Lauren Little Willow	My name is Lauren Little Willow and I have lived on Caledonia Street for over 60 years. So I've seen all of the challenges that come with parking on Caledonia Street. One of my main concerns is...
03:29:09.33	Lauren Little Willow	The apartment building that I live at and manage is right in the middle of Caledonia Street, literally right in the middle, right next to Driver's Market.
03:29:20.04	Lauren Little Willow	When people can't find parking on Caledonia Street, oftentimes
03:29:26.18	Lauren Little Willow	they park in our driveway or in our parking spaces. And a lot of people feel that it's perfectly fine to do that, not understanding that they're inconveniencing us to get in and out of our parking space as we need to get to work, or we're coming home with groceries, or we have handicapped people, or we have families. So...
03:29:47.74	Lauren Little Willow	taking away the parking spaces would actually
03:29:50.96	Lauren Little Willow	create more of an issue for the residents that live on Caledonia Street
03:29:55.41	Lauren Little Willow	And it's really not a fair thing to do. As I agree with Vicki, I don't think you honestly know how many residents actually live on Caledonia Street. And we utilize all the parking spaces around. Not everybody has a car, but a lot of people are couples and they have two cars. So we have a parking space for one, but not for the other. So the parking permits that allow us to park in the sea permitted parking spaces.
03:30:22.41	Lauren Little Willow	areas really are a valuable asset to being able to rent apartments to people without parking. People will not want to live in our neighborhood. Thank you so much.
03:30:36.88	Unknown	Next speaker is Pat.
03:30:41.09	Lauren Little Willow	Didn't say thank you to me.
03:30:43.46	Lauren Little Willow	Do you speak? Yes.
03:30:48.89	Susan Nemitz	Hi, thank you for
03:30:50.85	Susan Nemitz	for hearing me. I'm a little bit befuddled not long ago during this hearing
03:30:56.72	Susan Nemitz	we saw a somewhat
03:30:58.51	Susan Nemitz	spurious attempt to redesign Bridgeway from the dais.
03:31:02.07	Susan Nemitz	which I found not pleasing.
03:31:04.26	Susan Nemitz	Now,
03:31:05.87	Susan Nemitz	in search of public input
03:31:08.63	Susan Nemitz	There is a suggestion that we hold.
03:31:11.03	Susan Nemitz	you know, some sort of seance or
03:31:14.12	Susan Nemitz	or
03:31:15.15	Susan Nemitz	town meeting or whatever to discuss the alternatives on the various streets of town.
03:31:22.79	Susan Nemitz	It seems to me that these are legal issues that I would hope our staff and our attorney could scope out and come up with a list of alternatives that would be acceptable, regardless of...
03:31:38.23	Susan Nemitz	of
03:31:39.33	Susan Nemitz	You know, none of us want to lose any parking, but that's going to happen to some degree.
03:31:45.25	Susan Nemitz	and to have town halls where people vent
03:31:49.57	Susan Nemitz	without knowledge is not constructive for you or for us. So I'm hoping you can direct staff and council to come up with a menu of alternatives for streets such as Caledonia that might be appropriate to minimize the loss of parking before we have town halls and various confrontations. Thank you.
03:32:20.99	Unknown	And final speaker is Karen Culligan.
03:32:27.32	Unknown	Thank you.
03:32:27.34	Karen Culligan	Hi there. Yeah, the previous speaker's comment about spending too much time dwelling on venting without knowledge. Wow, that one hit me really hard because I'm feeling that tonight on many of these topics.
03:32:39.66	Karen Culligan	AB 413 is a law that was paved in blood. Like these, this exists for safety and to hear
03:32:48.20	Karen Culligan	us trying to get around safety improvements to protect parking.
03:32:53.36	Karen Culligan	It hurts. You know, no one likes to lose parking. I've lived on Caledonia. If I've had to look for parking when I lived there, it's a hell of a easier than in most neighborhoods of the city.
03:33:04.04	Karen Culligan	And this law exists for a specific reason. Several months ago, the council and mayor in particular directed staff to look at this and look at ways to get around it. The staff report didn't recommend doing that. I think it's pretty clear to continue down this road, I think it's creating a pretty negative fact pattern
03:33:21.98	Karen Culligan	from not just a safety perspective, but from a risk management and liability perspective of us trying to get around this when there is
03:33:30.11	Karen Culligan	There isn't a safety reason to do so as the law stipulates. So there's a lot of cool stuff we could do on Caledonia. We could make the whole thing one way. We could tie it in with a roundabout concept. We could add diagonal parking. Those are longer term, right? Like it's going to cost some bucks. We got to study it right now. We need to implement AB 413. We need better sight lines. So people like Babette, when they're walking, are safer. So that when, if I'm riding my bike or I'm driving, I don't feel the danger that I feel today, even as a driver. I hate the sight lines on Caledonia and the fact that it's two-way stops. And so if that other person doesn't realize that I'm not stopping and they do, it's a really dangerous configuration. So this would be an improvement. I'd love to see it happen. Thank you.
03:34:19.19	Karen Culligan	No further public speakers?
03:34:20.33	Unknown	Thank you.
03:34:20.64	Mayor Cox	All right, I will close public comment and bring it up here.
03:34:24.10	Mayor Cox	for discussion i i'm going to lead off i'm going to read a paragraph from our staff
03:34:30.26	Mayor Cox	Report, dated January 7, 2025.
03:34:33.95	Mayor Cox	It says.
03:34:34.96	Mayor Cox	The second implementation phase will be to review traffic safety data and traffic safety standards to determine if the City can establish if a different distance is justified by traffic safety standards. Staff will work with the City's on-call traffic engineering firm to identify other improvements, such as lighted crosswalks or other traffic calming measures that may justify a decrease in this prescribed distance stated in AB 413. Okay.
03:35:04.78	Mayor Cox	So as much as I respect the last speaker, contrary to what he said, it's not that staff is recommending not doing this, it's that staff has not yet undertaken this second implementation phase
03:35:18.08	Mayor Cox	enunciated in the staff report that was supposed to happen prior to the third implementation phase, which is undertaking the striping,
03:35:25.34	Mayor Cox	and other changes required to implement AB 413.
03:35:29.00	Mayor Cox	And then just to respond to the city attorney,
03:35:31.39	Mayor Cox	The language I'm referring to in the statute is California Vehicle Code, section 22500.
03:35:39.27	Mayor Cox	N as in Nancy.
03:35:41.86	Mayor Cox	One.
03:35:43.36	Mayor Cox	B
03:35:45.01	Mayor Cox	B, which says, notwithstanding subparagraph A, a local authority may establish a different distance if both of the following requirements are met. I.
03:35:55.51	Mayor Cox	a local authority establishes the different stance by ordinance that includes a finding that the different stance is justified by established traffic safety standards and
03:36:07.61	Mayor Cox	Two, a local authority has marked the different distance at the intersection using paint or a sign. So I am simply asking that.
03:36:17.04	Mayor Cox	before we deprive our residents and our businesses of precious parking spots, that we undertake phase two that was outlined in the January 5
03:36:29.60	Mayor Cox	January 7, 2025.
03:36:31.87	Mayor Cox	Staff report.
03:36:33.71	Mayor Cox	to review traffic safety data and traffic safety standards
03:36:37.51	Mayor Cox	to determine if the city can establish a different distance by
03:36:42.00	Mayor Cox	using lighted crosswalks, reducing the speed limit, or other traffic calming measures. So I thank the Public Works Director for the commitment to reach out to parametrics.
03:36:54.54	Mayor Cox	to brainstorm with them
03:36:56.39	Mayor Cox	about what
03:36:57.54	Mayor Cox	measures would be
03:37:00.75	Mayor Cox	appropriate and where, the last thing I want to do is endanger pedestrians or bicyclists. But I have to say, if we reduce the speed limit on
03:37:11.67	Mayor Cox	First of all, many bicyclists, and the last speaker knows that I don't include him in this mix, many bicyclists are the ones who don't abide by our speed limits. Coming down Alexander Avenue, passing me.
03:37:24.61	Mayor Cox	in the opposite lane,
03:37:25.98	Mayor Cox	when I'm in a huge van,
03:37:27.63	Mayor Cox	So that's one challenge. But if we reduce
03:37:32.78	Mayor Cox	And I'll wait till the next time to talk. Who else would like to speak?
03:37:39.49	Councilman Sobey	I don't know.
03:37:41.77	Councilman Sobey	I guess I'll chime in. I'm still reeling from...
03:37:44.88	Councilman Sobey	my friend Pat's comment, I'm throwing my hands up in the air because we're trying to be collaborative and get ideas from people that know the places they live well. And here's what would happen, I'm speaking to my friend Pat. It's that staff does its work, it comes to city council as a staff report, let's say, and it proposes something. Let's say, hey,
03:37:58.31	Mark Palmer	I'm not.
03:38:08.36	Councilman Sobey	we can implement this law if we do and actually increase the amount of parking, but we have to make Caledonia one way and have diagonal streets. Well, that won't be viewed as a...
03:38:21.22	Councilman Sobey	good faith effort to
03:38:22.88	Councilman Sobey	save parking and improve safety, it'll be another wild scheme by a rogue city council. And so the hope is that people that care, people like Vicki Nichols, people like who Alice Merrill, the owners of the driver's market, the businesses on that street might actually be engaged in the whiteboarding process like a community so they see the trade offs themselves and can help
03:38:43.89	Councilman Sobey	inform the process. I offer that to my colleagues for their consideration. I won't push it. If it doesn't have any merit, then let's not do it. Let's have staff do all their work and just, you know, I'll refer back to this when we eventually have that meeting and people are shocked at the proposals that are made, the radical newfangled ideas.
03:39:03.63	Councilman Sobey	instead of
03:39:05.59	Councilman Sobey	getting on the ground floor.
03:39:07.93	Councilman Sobey	I think Kieran Culgan's points are well taken. I agree with you, Madam Mayor, the bicycle bad behavior is common, and it provokes in people that
03:39:20.94	Councilman Sobey	suffer like you and I and many others, a sort of anti-bike response. But the consequences for a bicyclist,
03:39:29.01	Councilman Sobey	often are different when they hit a car and it's bad for pedestrians, whether it's a car or a bike, you can be killed by a bike and they're killed in San Francisco all the time. The whole idea of opening up those corners is so you have better sight lines. It's improved safety. It's why the law exists.
03:39:46.34	Councilman Sobey	We're supposedly this creative community. I think we can be creative, but...
03:39:50.49	Councilman Sobey	there are trade-offs. This notion, I'll just go back to it. It's a radical notion to have one-way traffic on Caledonia. You could actually increase the amount of parking while opening up the sight lines on the corridors.
03:40:01.76	Councilman Sobey	But now that I've articulated that, I guarantee you someone's going to say another crazy wild brain idea instead of a contribution to thinking and collaboration on the subject. So.
03:40:13.34	Councilman Sobey	You know, kicking the can down the road and putting on staff and then come back and get waylaid doesn't feel like we're going to entirely take ownership over solving it as a community. So I'm sort of looking to everybody, you know, what do you do? We have the state law, just like the state housing mandates.
03:40:28.70	Councilman Sobey	And we got to be adults about figuring out a solution that works for the various trade-offs that we have to make as adults.
03:40:36.31	Unknown	Thank you.
03:40:36.78	Councilmember Hoffman	Thank you.
03:40:36.97	Councilmember Hoffman	Thank you.
03:40:37.49	Councilmember Hoffman	Councilmember Hoffman.
03:40:39.85	Councilmember Hoffman	Well, I don't think in this context that was the point that the caller was making. I think the point that the caller was making is that as a starting point, of course, you always start as a, you know, the bedrock of your conversation here at the city council is what's the law? And I think that's the point that our mayor is making is what's the law and what's our parameters inside the law? And I think she's found a good point.
03:41:08.41	Councilmember Hoffman	perhaps a legal avenue where we can get some more parking, which we know from everybody who usually comes before the council, or, well, most people who come before the council.
03:41:19.20	Councilmember Hoffman	that we still are
03:41:22.09	Councilmember Hoffman	a society that relies on cars and even
03:41:26.36	Councilmember Hoffman	Mr. Culligan, who called in, admits that he drives a car occasionally.
03:41:31.29	Councilmember Hoffman	And so...
03:41:32.22	Councilmember Hoffman	We have many seniors and people in this town who rely on cars to navigate.
03:41:36.22	Councilmember Hoffman	down from their homes on the hills or homes throughout town or people who have small kids who have to have cars who need to navigate through our town and park at our stores to buy groceries or park at our restaurants or park downtown to go to Jazz by the Bay and unload their cars with their picnic wares. Not every Jazz, but certainly some Jazz. So I think that was the point. And I think that's the mayor's point. And I support that. I think we need to understand and know what are our parameters within law so that we can make a good legal decision. And then we can move on from there within those guidelines. So I would support that approach.
03:42:16.92	Councilmember Hoffman	Council members?
03:42:19.82	Cassie	Yeah, I mean, I have to say the reality of walking the streets in Sausalito, riding your bike in Sausalito, sometimes it can be somewhat frightening, especially in places where we don't have crosswalks. But more particularly in areas where we're trying to do a better job of daylighting those crosswalks to make it safer for pedestrians. I think we've had a lot of opportunities to take steps forward to be a more bike friendly, pedestrian friendly city. Maybe we haven't necessarily taken that opportunity. So I am, I'm disappointed to see that we are weaning again towards potentially not immediately moving forward with the state law, but I appreciate that we have somewhat of a compromise to
03:43:06.23	Cassie	you know, enact AB 1434. I would like to see us, I really appreciate Council Member Sobieski's suggestion of having a collaborative community working group that would talk about the best use of this road and then bring everybody to the table. So I would support the mayor's recommendation, but ask that we also put together a working group to discuss that and see what the best approach is. Because I think what we're hearing again and again is that people think that that this is happening without significant community input and obviously we as locals all enjoy Caledonia Street we all.
03:43:06.29	Unknown	you know.
03:43:06.40	Unknown	I don't know.
03:43:40.18	Cassie	use Bridgeway, and there's a lot at stake in these discussions, and I don't want to leave anything on the table, but I also want us to be much more thoughtful about the future of transportation instead of just making our decisions based on what's immediately happening. We have to do that, and this is a both-and situation, so I would support the mayor's suggestion with an addendum that we do have some sort of working group of folks who live or work on those streets to engage with what the future of them look like.
03:44:11.18	Mayor Cox	Vice Mayor Woodside, any comment?
03:44:13.19	Vice Mayor Woodside	Yeah, just briefly, to me, the issue tonight is that we're going to go forward with a straight implementation of the line of sight as prescribed in the state law.
03:44:23.97	Vice Mayor Woodside	except on the streets where
03:44:26.30	Vice Mayor Woodside	more effort is needed to see what alternatives there are that provide perhaps
03:44:31.60	Vice Mayor Woodside	greater safety without reducing parking, et cetera, all the conflicting issues. And I think the suggestion that the staff try to work closely with those close to the
03:44:42.09	Vice Mayor Woodside	close to the ground and with a lot of possible ideas that we haven't yet thought of that could result in greater safety. So I think the approach is not
03:44:54.55	Vice Mayor Woodside	designed to avoid complying with the state law. Indeed, it's to comply with
03:44:59.66	Vice Mayor Woodside	with the state law to achieve greater safety. So I'm
03:45:02.98	Vice Mayor Woodside	endorsing the recommendation to staff to proceed in this manner. I like the suggestion that to the extent possible, engaging the community,
03:45:12.35	Vice Mayor Woodside	in a thoughtful discussion of those particularly affected directly could lead to something we haven't yet thought of.
03:45:20.52	Vice Mayor Woodside	I'm ready to.
03:45:22.17	Vice Mayor Woodside	Move forward.
03:45:23.49	Mayor Cox	Thank you. Thank you, Vice Mayor. I'm just going to finish my comments. I was just going to say on Caledonia Street.
03:45:30.41	Mayor Cox	If we reduce the speed limit for 20 to 15, we are going to increase safety. If we use, you know, the Sausalito village used to put flags in buckets on either side of the crosswalk across Caledonia to drivers. So that people crossing the street could wave the flag and say, hey, I'm crossing the street, don't run me over.
03:45:54.22	Mayor Cox	unfortunately, that didn't last because the flags kept getting stolen. So they couldn't
03:46:01.22	Mayor Cox	And so seeing a, I would love to see a flashing crosswalk
03:46:05.73	Mayor Cox	at that corner so that people who frequently
03:46:10.70	Mayor Cox	park down the street and cross the street to visit drivers
03:46:15.23	Mayor Cox	can do so safely with flashing crosswalks. So I am certainly not
03:46:20.17	Mayor Cox	advocating that we reduce safety.
03:46:23.43	Mayor Cox	In fact, just the opposite.
03:46:25.49	Mayor Cox	um,
03:46:26.23	Mayor Cox	The promise in the staff report was to do the research to figure out
03:46:31.68	Mayor Cox	where we can increase the safety standards so as not to
03:46:35.93	Mayor Cox	have to lose so much parking. And so...
03:46:38.80	Mayor Cox	I'm pleased that the public works director has agreed to undertake that effort. I also do want to commend him
03:46:47.81	Mayor Cox	because I received a mailer. So phase one was communication. And I did receive a mailer announcing that certain sight lines would be increased and certain parking spots would be lost.
03:47:02.42	Mayor Cox	Um,
03:47:03.25	Mayor Cox	But I do endorse the council members' recommendation that we engage the community. So perhaps reaching out to a couple of community members. But I don't want to further delay this since it was supposed to go into effect in January.
03:47:19.64	Mayor Cox	I'm, I think I'm looking at the public works director the the direct the the recommended motion is to give direction so I'm not going to make a motion, we have collectively given direction are you clear on the direction.
03:47:36.53	Kevin McGowan	It would be great just to reiterate it. I am clear, and I usually have to review the tapes of this, but if you want to reiterate it, that would be great.
03:47:47.35	Lauren Little Willow	Thank you.
03:47:47.38	Mayor Cox	Okay.
03:47:50.96	Mayor Cox	So my direction was to carry out phase two written in the January 7, 2025 staff report, which is to...
03:48:05.00	Mayor Cox	review traffic safety data and traffic safety standards,
03:48:08.47	Mayor Cox	to determine if the city can establish if a different distance is justified by traffic safety standards, work with the city's on-call traffic engineering firm to identify other improvements, such as lighted crosswalks or other traffic calming measures that may...
03:48:23.80	Mayor Cox	justify a decrease in this prescribed distance stated in AB 413.
03:48:28.45	Mayor Cox	The direction would be if you identify such measures to bring them back to us for approval, accompanied by an ordinance adopting them, since under the statute we have to adopt an ordinance, the safety standards have to exist.
03:48:45.40	Mayor Cox	within an ordinance.
03:48:46.66	Mayor Cox	in order for us to make the findings.
03:48:49.34	Mayor Cox	that the staff report be accompanied by the findings that by
03:48:54.31	Mayor Cox	decreasing the speed limit, installing lighted crosswalks,
03:48:59.56	Mayor Cox	installing pedestrian walkways and whatever else our traffic engineer may recommend that we believe that we don't need to have
03:49:10.30	Mayor Cox	um,
03:49:11.22	Mayor Cox	a red zone that's 15 feet long, maybe it's 10 feet long.
03:49:15.10	Mayor Cox	putting bicycle racks in the red zone is another way to
03:49:19.48	Mayor Cox	maximize use of the red zone without losing capacity.
03:49:24.58	Mayor Cox	and then the recommendation of
03:49:27.26	Mayor Cox	Councilmember Sobieski was to include
03:49:32.51	Mayor Cox	a business or two or a resident or two, such as Vicki Nichols or Alice Merrill or Driver's Market, in the exploration, the brainstorming about how to make Caledonia safer, such that we don't have to lose so many precious parking spots along Caledonia.
03:49:52.48	Mayor Cox	And then the same would be true of Bridgeway.
03:49:55.99	Mayor Cox	Did I miss anything, anyone?
03:49:57.98	Mayor Cox	Okay, is that clear?
03:50:00.08	Mayor Cox	All right. I got the thumbs up. Okay.
03:50:03.59	Mayor Cox	Okay, I've been asked for another five-minute break.
03:50:06.92	Mayor Cox	So we're going to take a five-minute break, and then we'll proceed to our last business.
03:50:15.19	Mayor Cox	Business item of the evening business item 5C authorized
03:50:19.64	Mayor Cox	Sorry.
03:50:22.17	Mayor Cox	Karen Hollweg, Actually item five a provide direction to staff on acceptance of proposal from design consultant for parking lot one reconstruction project and for the trifecta is is the public works director around.
03:50:39.91	Mayor Cox	We're mad.
03:50:41.18	Mayor Cox	It's very possible.
03:50:43.44	Mike Rogers	Yeah, no, he's here, Mayor, and he's going to introduce Sarah to provide the presentation. Let me call him.
03:50:48.52	Faye Rudio	All right.
03:51:05.00	Mayor Cox	Well, he's calling the department head. I should have waited to see if he was in the audience before I resumed. That's my fault.
03:51:15.72	Mike Rogers	We're ready for you.
03:51:23.99	Mayor Cox	Okay, we are ready for item 5A, provide direction to staff on acceptance of proposal from design consultant for parking lot one reconstruction project. And for the trifecta, I will invite Kevin McGowan, our public works director.
03:51:40.42	Kevin McGowan	Thank you, and I want to thank Sarah.
03:51:43.51	Kevin McGowan	of course, Sudefart, our project manager, who will be making the presentation on this item. Thank you.
03:51:49.20	Sarah	Thank you, Kevin. Good evening, Madam Mayor, Councilmembers, City Manager, colleagues, and
03:51:56.78	Sarah	There you go. Public.
03:51:56.88	Kevin McGowan	Thank you.
03:51:56.91	Catherine Streetman	There you go.
03:51:59.12	Sarah	Um,
03:51:59.85	Sarah	and thank you for the opportunity of the presentation tonight. The Parking Lot 1 project that was originally a resurfacing and reconstruction effort
03:52:08.32	Sarah	has the potential to do so much more. In addition to the much needed repair of the potholes, it can address multiple other issues. It can transform the space into a forward thinking environment. It can implement climate smart solutions, and it can also add to the welcoming spirit of public spaces in the heart of downtown.
03:52:29.38	Sarah	Next slide, please.
03:52:31.96	Sarah	As you know, improvements to the parking lot are much needed. Parking lot one is visibly deteriorated,
03:52:39.17	Sarah	There are damaged pavements.
03:52:41.26	Sarah	exposed tree roots and outdated infrastructure that makes it potentially unsafe, unappealing and inefficient.
03:52:49.56	Sarah	In addition, the site is positioned adjacent to the bay, which is making it significantly more vulnerable to sea level rise and flooding. Next, please.
03:53:00.06	Sarah	Although lot one sits directly adjacent to the newly resurfaced Ferry landside area, its improvements was excluded from the recently completed project based on the Council approved
03:53:12.59	Sarah	bid strategy and how the alternates were structured by the FDA funding.
03:53:18.11	Sarah	However, that decision did not and does not eliminate the very real and ongoing need for the parking lot to address its deteriorating conditions. Next slide, please.
03:53:30.95	Sarah	As part of the Ferry Landside project, the city added 47 spaces at the Yacht Harbor, relocated bike parking, and added 280A spaces. Next slide, please.
03:53:45.64	Sarah	It is visible that there is a stark contrast between the newly resurfaced sidewalk and the deteriorating adjustment parking lot. Next, please.
03:53:56.52	Sarah	The design approach we are discussing this evening to get direction on is whether to proceed with an expanded scope
03:54:03.95	Sarah	for the development of a conceptual plan that can transform the fatigued parking lot into a leading edge sustainable by design asset. Next, please.
03:54:16.55	Sarah	This spring, we issued the request for proposals. Staff included a modified scope in the RFP incorporating tasks to address sea level rise, sustainability, and urban heat island effect, and the creation of high quality public spaces to serve the community.
03:54:33.27	Sarah	With the Ferry Landside project now complete,
03:54:36.50	Sarah	Consultants responded with proposals to develop conceptual plans that go beyond simple resurfacing of the parking lot. Next, please.
03:54:46.37	Sarah	The idea of including additional elements in the design of our downtown areas can represent a paradigm shift in how these areas should be developed, utilized, and maintained.
03:54:56.78	Sarah	There is a potential for this area to be studied, which includes evolving the space to incorporate other elements,
03:55:04.24	Sarah	Developing conceptual designs can identify these elements as well as not losing sight of the importance of park.
03:55:10.87	Sarah	Ordinance 1128 and other factors identified by the community.
03:55:15.19	Sarah	The development of this study is more costly and staff request Council's direction on whether to proceed with the analysis. Next slide, please.
03:55:25.84	Sarah	Aligning community expectations with global trends, such as using sustainable surfaces, solar canopies, EV readiness, and stormwater smart materials, to name a few is what is covered in the conceptual plan development.
03:55:40.61	Sarah	In the 21st century, parking lots can be climate assets and not liabilities. Next slide, please.
03:55:49.08	Sarah	If the Council so chooses, staff can aim for a design with lots of flexibility and versatility in the proposal, such as safer circulation, heat mitigation, and resilience against flooding and sea level.
03:56:01.92	Sarah	We'll rise.
03:56:03.24	Sarah	While at the same time, we can be investigating options that do not impact parking or impact Ordinance 1128. Next slide, please.
03:56:14.78	Sarah	Asphalt has been a remarkable material. In fact, an ancient discovery that has become essential to modern infrastructure and construction. However,
03:56:24.46	Sarah	In parking lots,
03:56:26.07	Sarah	It traps heat, worsens urban temperatures, and contributes to unsustainable land use. It also cracks and it needs continuous repair.
03:56:35.11	Sarah	There is an opportunity to analyze
03:56:38.28	Sarah	these types of issues and create an example of for the other parking lots in the city. However, there is additional costs associated with the development and possibly the implementation of these measures.
03:56:51.50	Sarah	Next slide, please.
03:56:53.56	Sarah	We would be asking the selected consultant to present at least three design alternatives in a matrix-like situation. For example, one option could be a minimal change option from what we have, more like the current layout but with asphalt resurfacing or maybe not considering concrete instead.
03:57:13.17	Sarah	tree management, whether to remove or replace, and or with flexibility in other areas.
03:57:18.55	Sarah	An other alternative might integrate improved wayfinding, which is much needed, high quality public spaces, and added green infrastructure with cool surface materials. We are keeping the exploration open, which adds complexity and obviously costs.
03:57:34.82	Sarah	We also request that the consultant would explore and bring to our attention any other criteria that can improve the central area of Sausalito. Next slide, please.
03:57:45.99	Sarah	In April, we should be our fee and in May, we received three proposals staff is asking the Council tonight if we should proceed with negotiating a professional services contract with the most. responsive and responsible consultant to address a larger scope that's done simply resurfacing the parking lot back into what it is next slide please.
03:58:10.27	Sarah	The original budget for this project was estimated to be about 1.3 million. Proposals for a full conceptual approach, including the full re-envisioning of the lot, is in the 300,000 range.
03:58:23.52	Sarah	PB, Lupita D Montoya- The city can move forward with the conceptual design, however, additional funding may be needed at the later stage in the construction phase to address the difference in cost next slide please.
03:58:36.78	Sarah	Council has several alternatives to choose from, which are noted in the staff report, since this is a focal point for the community and is essentially the heart of downtown,
03:58:46.28	Sarah	Staff recommend proceeding with an expanded scope
03:58:49.91	Sarah	to address multiple issues in the area, even if ultimately the design
03:58:54.77	Sarah	that is selected is a simple resurfacing of the lot so we can explore.
03:58:59.46	Sarah	The development of the conceptual alternatives will come at a higher cost, obviously,
03:59:05.47	Sarah	However, this may be the right time to address these issues and make improvements to downtown staff recommend moving forward with the modified scope. Next slide, please.
03:59:18.97	Sarah	Thank you so much. And Kevin and I are available to answer any questions you may have.
03:59:23.80	Mayor Cox	Can you go back to the slide before the schedule slide? So it's like the fifth slide in maybe?
03:59:33.09	Mayor Cox	The one before that. OK. So this looks to me like I don't see where the asphalt or the concrete or anything is in this picture. So is this lot 1?
03:59:45.02	Kevin McGowan	on.
03:59:46.20	Kevin McGowan	Yes, it is. Go back one slide.
03:59:49.02	Sarah	This is lot one and the green shows opportunity for resurfacing. It does not show green as greenery. It is just this.
03:59:58.44	Unknown	Okay.
03:59:58.51	Sarah	The boundary, it's the boundary. My fault.
04:00:02.32	Babette McDougall	Thank you.
04:00:02.35	Mayor Cox	You had me worried.
04:00:03.67	Sarah	No, it's the boundary. It is...
04:00:06.40	Mayor Cox	It's the boundary of what the topic of the consultant's work is.
04:00:07.01	Sarah	of what the
04:00:11.35	Sarah	Thank you.
04:00:14.07	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
04:00:14.88	Mayor Cox	May we know the names of the three consultants who proposed?
04:00:20.11	Mayor Cox	Sure.
04:00:21.29	Sarah	We do have CSW, ST2, and we do have SWA and Watery Design 3.
04:00:31.08	Mayor Cox	And which one was confined to resurfacing?
04:00:34.35	Sarah	The third one will actually design.
04:00:36.58	Sarah	Not necessarily, but it has a limited scope. It is not exploratory.
04:00:41.57	Mayor Cox	Okay.
04:00:41.79	Unknown	Thank you.
04:00:41.86	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
04:00:43.23	Mayor Cox	Thank you. Other questions.
04:00:47.31	Mayor Cox	Seeing none, I'm going to open it up. Oh, go ahead. Questions?
04:00:51.48	Mayor Cox	Yes.
04:00:51.82	Councilmember Hoffman	you
04:00:52.32	Councilmember Hoffman	Why was, why was Wattree only the limited scope? Did they not understand or know?
04:00:59.66	Kevin McGowan	I think they didn't understand the full RFP and they submitted something a little bit more standard for a parking lot design, which is what they're used to. So their, their bid came in a lot different. And that's just my opinion that they didn't really understand that we're looking more of a, the RFP was more of a bigger picture, looking at a higher level.
04:01:22.58	Councilmember Hoffman	Okay.
04:01:23.91	Councilmember Hoffman	and
04:01:27.91	Councilmember Hoffman	with regard to some of the things that we were in the presentation,
04:01:33.56	Councilmember Hoffman	One of the things that we talked about earlier today, and actually we talked about earlier this evening, was about the heat index issue and heat island.
04:01:41.53	Councilmember Hoffman	and
04:01:44.51	Councilmember Hoffman	And
04:01:46.73	Councilmember Hoffman	We agreed at our meeting that we don't have any information that Sausali is a heat island or that there's any information that parking lot one has any heat effect or anything.
04:02:00.38	Councilmember Hoffman	Increased heat island index.
04:02:02.67	Sarah	Yes and no. Alfred, could you open, there is a JPEG in the file called Heat Island, something with heat.
04:02:02.71	Councilmember Hoffman	Yes and no.
04:02:13.07	Sarah	It should be a math.
04:02:15.21	Sarah	Yes and no, because there are a multitude of maps that are representing the map that you shared.
04:02:22.06	Sarah	was a lot more zoomed out, so it is quite difficult to pinpoint exactly where downtown Sausalito is with regards to that. That was the EPA map. I got my hands on another map from Land Trust, which if that opens, we can see that downtown Sausalito is not too benign with regards to the heat. and there is, in fact, it is not in the deep red, but it is not perfectly white.
04:02:52.83	Councilmember Hoffman	So the light pink there is on the lowest end, urban heat island severity, right?
04:03:03.47	Mayor Cox	if you don't,
04:03:04.03	Kevin McGowan	speaking to the mic we can't hear you so so yeah okay so i think you're correct it's a light pink
04:03:05.04	Councilmember Hoffman	Sorry. So, yeah. Okay. So I'm looking at
04:03:09.87	Councilmember Hoffman	It's a, yeah, it's an extra, I'm looking at it. It looks like it's the lightest pink on the, is it?
04:03:14.53	Sarah	It is the lightest and the next one above that is
04:03:19.35	Sarah	Thank you.
04:03:19.37	Councilmember Hoffman	And that's the parking lot.
04:03:20.32	Sarah	It's more nebulous. It's not one or the other. It depends. It kind of leaves in and out.
04:03:25.14	Councilmember Hoffman	Okay.
04:03:25.97	Councilmember Hoffman	you
04:03:26.46	Councilmember Hoffman	So it's either the lightest, it might be the next lightest.
04:03:31.62	Councilmember Hoffman	It could be.
04:03:34.37	Councilmember Hoffman	Okay.
04:03:35.37	Councilmember Hoffman	seriously, are you seriously recommending that based on lightest or the next lightest pink that that might be a decision point?
04:03:42.76	Sarah	No.
04:03:43.60	Jan Johnson	Thank you.
04:03:43.62	Sarah	Oh, no.
04:03:43.79	Councilmember Hoffman	not.
04:03:43.97	Sarah	Not at all. I just pinpointed the discrepancies between different maps when it comes to heat island effect.
04:03:49.00	Councilmember Hoffman	Okay, so I don't think that anybody would say that the parking lot one's a heat island.
04:03:53.61	Councilmember Hoffman	Okay. That's my point. Thank you.
04:03:57.22	Councilmember Hoffman	Okay, and Kevin, we also talked about sea level rise with regard, it was part of the presentation, but we would agree that there are other areas in Sausalito that are more prone or susceptible to sea level rise.
04:04:14.01	Kevin McGowan	Yes, that's correct. Even though there is a FEMA map in this area that shows some of the area closer to Gabrielson might be impacted, but at that point in time, other roads in the city will be impacted ahead of this.
04:04:28.39	Councilmember Hoffman	And we just finished a BCDC permit. I guess we approved it, right? The BCDC permit for our new ferry landing and it's about the same level as this parking lot.
04:04:38.08	Kevin McGowan	Yes.
04:04:38.67	Councilmember Hoffman	Okay, and no issue with sea level rise on that permit?
04:04:41.28	Kevin McGowan	Yeah, remember, theirs is a float, though, so they get to go up and down and
04:04:44.15	Councilmember Hoffman	Well, they have a peer.
04:04:45.95	Councilmember Hoffman	Yeah.
04:04:46.70	Councilmember Hoffman	Yeah, OK.
04:04:50.26	Councilmember Hoffman	Oops, sorry.
04:04:56.03	Councilmember Hoffman	Sorry, hold on a second.
04:05:00.33	Unknown	Thank you.
04:05:05.41	Mayor Cox	Okay, I think that's it. Thank you. Any other questions? All right, seeing none, I'm gonna move on to public comment. First card, Adrienne Brinton.
04:05:17.68	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
04:05:19.66	Mayor Cox	or him Gail shell welcome back Adrian.
04:05:22.15	Adrienne Britton	Thank you. Thank you again for taking my comment. So I think, you know, when we think about lot one and do we want to look at a design that's more comprehensive, you know, it's really about insurance and avoiding costly mistakes. I think Council Member Hoffman's comments about Heat Island and is it appropriate or not are very good. It costs more money. That's something that we need to look at and understand. end and that's something that we need to do through a process like a design where we take different ideas into account and actually examine them. You know, this needs to last for 40 years. So, and actually, if you look at the pavement now, probably is longer than 40 years. So while we may be in that second or third shade of pink today, 40 years from now, that may not be the case. 40 years from now, that may not be the case with sea level rise either. You know, are we going to fix those things? I don't know, but to, to go in and just kind of not really think about it and just say, Hey, it's fine. Let's just stamp it out the way it is. I don't think that's a good use of our money. So putting the extra money in now so that we can make sure we don't make those costly mistakes, I think is very important. The resiliency as well. One thing that I didn't see noted in the staff report, I think a lot of resiliency projects still have some grant funding available. I think that's something we should look at. If we can take our base design and we can add resiliency features that improve the parking lot and we can get grant money for that, that could be a win-win where we actually don't end up spending a lot more and we get a much better result i also want to mention the impact of businesses especially with the ferry land the ferry waterside project coming that's going to be a huge disruption in parking lot one this is also going to be huge disruption in parking lot one and I would urge everyone to think about those two things and how we minimize the impact to businesses while all this construction work gets done. It's a challenging year this year. You know, it's never going to get easier, but it's definitely something I think that we need to take into account. Thank you.
04:07:21.02	Unknown	Thank you.
04:07:21.04	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
04:07:22.35	Mayor Cox	Gail shell then Joel car.
04:07:26.32	Mayor Cox	All right, Joel Carr and then Mark Palmer.
04:07:35.33	Joel Carr	Thank you, mayor and city council. None of the negative people who wanna speak against this seem to be here still, but I prepared all of the reasons why we should think about this in a positive way. But the issue in my mind is that the projects like this that result in a raft of positive changes that improve visual appeal, sustainable conditions,
04:08:04.98	Joel Carr	and not resulting in loss of parking spaces
04:08:09.91	Joel Carr	should be
04:08:11.00	Joel Carr	considered as part of a bigger improvement to that whole area. We just went through years and years of approval process to get the Ferry Landside project done. Now everybody thinks it's fabulous. The parking lot is a mess. It really needs to be basically restarted, as Adrian said, uh, Adrian said for another 40 years. So, um, the, uh, the fact is that approvals processes in this city take many years, Dunphy park, perfect example took forever. And now it's absolutely popular and everybody loves it. So, um, I would like to see this move ahead. I know it's going to be a long haul, but it would be nice to see it happen. Thanks.
04:08:59.55	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
04:09:01.17	Mayor Cox	Mark Palmer, then Laurie Vio. Oops, sorry about that.
04:09:06.56	Mark Palmer	Good evening again, city council. I wanted to make a point of order that, and just make it clear that if I'm speaking on behalf of the sustainability commission of which I am the chair, I'll be sure to let you know. Otherwise my comments are my own.
04:09:22.98	Mark Palmer	Thank you.
04:09:23.25	Mark Palmer	uh during my uh the the the the socialita sustainability commission meets quarterly we met in june and we our next meeting is in september it's impossible for us to chime in on every issue that comes uh before or a city council so uh my comments again are my own during my 55 years in the construction industry as an an engineer, a contractor, and a green building specialist, I've been involved in hundreds, literally hundreds of construction projects. I've seen many times over that projects with the
04:09:59.54	Mark Palmer	that utilize an integrated approach have the best outcomes for people, the planet, and the pocketbook. When we treat a project as a unified system, we often solve multiple problems at once.
04:10:12.08	Mark Palmer	more efficiently, more cost-effectively, and with lasting impact.
04:10:16.18	Mark Palmer	I strongly support the staff recommendation
04:10:18.65	Mark Palmer	This is more than a paving job.
04:10:20.40	Mark Palmer	It's an opportunity to rehabilitate this site as a resilient,
04:10:23.74	Mark Palmer	multifunctional public space that responds to climate challenges and supports long-term infrastructure planning.
04:10:31.44	Mark Palmer	Given its location on the waterfront and its vulnerability to sea level rise, investing in sustainable design now will save future costs.
04:10:39.72	Mark Palmer	and disruption.
04:10:41.23	Mark Palmer	Green infrastructure elements such as permeable surfaces, native landscaping, and integrated stormwater management can reduce flooding, improve water quality, and enhance the visitor experience. This is beyond just parking.
04:10:54.47	Mark Palmer	Let's view this space as part of our civic and ecological infrastructure.
04:10:58.66	Mark Palmer	welcoming, adaptable, and climate ready.
04:11:02.52	Mark Palmer	I urge you to accept the recommended vision for a more beautiful, resilient, and sustainable Sasslito.
04:11:09.25	Mayor Cox	Thank you. Mark, would you mind sharing that with the city clerk? That was really well said, and I saw you were reading from something. Do you mind if we attach that as public comment?
04:11:20.63	Mayor Cox	Thank you so much. And thank you for your efforts to be here.
04:11:24.76	Mayor Cox	All right, Laurie Viall and then Morgan Pearce.
04:11:28.95	Lori Vault	Hi, I speak to you as somebody who uses this parking lot quite a bit. I take the ferry three days a week, and I'm also a member of the Yacht Club. I oppose efforts to spend an additional $300,000-plus to reimagine parking lot one. The budget was already approved for repaving, and this adds additional unnecessary costs and additional potential delays, as well as potentially removing spaces as this gets reimagined. The parking spaces are crucial for the commuters who take the ferry. They are also heavily used by people who go to the Yacht Club, who are encouraged to pay to use the parking lot if we live here in the city, so that our members that live in San Francisco can park in the limited spaces within the Yacht Club, which only have 23 spaces. It's also one of the biggest revenue generators for the city, so why mess with that?
04:12:33.31	Lori Vault	by potentially removing spaces or delaying revenue, uh, for this, uh, profitable, profitable, um, parking lot that already has budget approved, uh, to improve it. So that's all of my comments. Thank you.
04:12:49.31	Unknown	Thank you.
04:12:50.37	Unknown	Morgan Pierce and then Nick Robey.
04:12:57.47	Morgan Pierce	Good evening once more. Madam Mayor, Vice Mayor Woodside, members of council, city staff, and my fellow Sausleytons, Morgan Pierce, and I am the president of Sausleyton Beautiful. I'm speaking to you this evening in support of the consideration of designers to re-envision parking lot one. This public space serves as a front door to our unique community and offers an ideal and highly visible opportunity to exert our city's visionary leadership in promoting civic investment in smarter, safer, and more sustainable infrastructure improvements. There's a both and solution for this site that improves circulation, preserves parking,
04:13:31.34	Morgan Pierce	improves pollinator habitat and enhances pedestrian safety, all while offering a new design that will promote more welcoming and memorable experiences for residents and visitors alike.
04:13:41.23	Morgan Pierce	This small patch of land has the potential to be one of the most amazing
04:13:44.03	Morgan Pierce	and engaging public places in our city,
04:13:46.16	Morgan Pierce	in Marin County.
04:13:47.51	Morgan Pierce	in California and in the world.
04:13:49.53	Morgan Pierce	We would request the direction from the city manager to design consultant include an option that preserves the existing trees for consideration.
04:13:56.86	Morgan Pierce	We recommend that the city council and our community imagine what could be
04:14:00.74	Morgan Pierce	for this important place and proceed with authorizing the city manager
04:14:04.53	Morgan Pierce	to execute the consultant agreement. Thank you.
04:14:07.44	Faye Rudio	Do you guys mind if I ask him a question?
04:14:10.61	Mayor Cox	Morgan, you said, you know, preserve the existing trees. Mm-hmm.
04:14:15.30	Mayor Cox	Are you aware that the trees are what are creating the root balls that are destroying the trees? Yes.
04:14:20.40	Morgan Pierce	Yes, yes. And we were having some talks earlier about, are there other innovative paving solutions that can then float essentially above...
04:14:28.63	Morgan Pierce	existing root systems.
04:14:30.62	Morgan Pierce	we hadn't considered that before. I'm sorry. Yeah. Yeah. So,
04:14:32.99	Mayor Cox	Yeah, so you're saying somehow we would mitigate the root balls that are right now
04:14:38.49	Morgan Pierce	Right.
04:14:40.36	Morgan Pierce	So I don't know the answer to that, but I would rely on us asking the experts if there were a mechanism by which we could do that.
04:14:41.69	Mayor Cox	Oh, you just wanna, okay.
04:14:46.11	Mayor Cox	guys.
04:14:46.28	Mayor Cox	I got it.
04:14:47.50	Mayor Cox	Okay, gotcha. Thank you.
04:14:50.17	Mayor Cox	All right. Nick Roby, Grover Deer.
04:14:52.90	Mayor Cox	and then Charles Melton. I don't see Nick
04:14:57.96	Mayor Cox	Okay, yeah.
04:15:07.07	Grover Deer	as I call it.
04:15:07.88	Grover Deer	Yes.
04:15:10.18	Grover Deer	Madam Mayor, Councilman, thank you for going through this, what I call, exhaustive measure on something that I see as very simple. Understood it to be an approved budget, approved scope of work that could proceed based upon that. As a resident and owning my home on number 4 Santa Rosa Avenue for 31 years. I've probably used the parking lot least of anyone in this room because I walk. I have 818 steps down to the street from my house. My point is I'd like to see reimagining. I'd like to do whatever we can, but I'd also like to stay within a budget that was approved and a scope that was approved and proceed with work that we know must be done. We don't want to lose parking spaces. We don't want to spend extra money for other things because as a fellow of the American Institute of Architects and an architect emeritus and someone that's done this for 40 years. Reimagining is wonderful and we can keep reimagining, but let's just get the parking lot paved for the budget we agreed to and the scope we agreed on at this point. Thank you.
04:16:29.74	Mayor Cox	My last speaker card is Charles Melton.
04:16:34.22	Mayor Cox	Oh, I have one more after this.
04:16:35.95	Mayor Cox	Welcome, Charles.
04:16:39.95	Charles Melton	Thank you, Mayor and City Council members. Thank you for the opportunity to provide comments tonight on parking lot one. I am in support of the forward thinking and reimagining of the parking lot. I am also a ferry commuter. Like many of us who take the ferry, we park in parking lot three using the $6 a day parking card and then walk through parking lot one. Most recently, I tripped on the root balls there in the parking lot, which becomes a safety hazard. So I'm very much in support of reimagining the parking lot and removing the safety hazards that currently exist in the parking lot here today.
04:17:10.51	Charles Melton	Also, if we simply get back to the basics, just by repaving and restriping the parking lot as it currently is, then we'll just have spent city revenues just to put lipstick on a pig. It does not solve the real issues of this parking lot. Through this RFP process, we have a key opportunity
04:17:27.98	Charles Melton	to reimagine and forward think
04:17:29.99	Charles Melton	what this parking lot could be.
04:17:31.62	Charles Melton	First, at the foremost, we hear a lot about the economic conditions of the city.
04:17:36.01	Charles Melton	We saw an email go out from a city councilor talk about how this parking lot is critical for city revenues.
04:17:40.96	Charles Melton	Can we actually increase revenues coming from this parking lot through parking revenues?
04:17:46.17	Charles Melton	Can we increase the number of parking spaces in this parking lot through reimagining it?
04:17:51.33	Charles Melton	How can we do this process if we simply nip it in the bud right now and just simply re-stripe and repave it in its current conditions and current configuration? We can't achieve that.
04:18:00.67	Charles Melton	Additionally,
04:18:03.38	Charles Melton	Can we, again, maximize economic output through increasing number of parking spaces or reconfiguring the parking lots?
04:18:10.40	Charles Melton	Um,
04:18:11.28	Charles Melton	Again, addressing the trees and the tree roots in the lot. And also, can we address the environmental impacts of this parking lot? We might disagree exactly what those environmental impacts are and respect the differing and appreciate the candid conversations. But if we don't first talk about that, we won't get there.
04:18:24.75	Charles Melton	Um, in policymaking, there are several critical steps that need to take place in order to make effective policy. And one of those key critical steps is to consider the alternatives. That's what this RFP process is today. And what I'm encouraging the city council to do.
04:18:37.96	Charles Melton	Do not put lipstick on a pig. Consider the alternatives before you say no.
04:18:42.43	Mayor Cox	Thank you, Charles. Sharna Brockett.
04:18:48.31	Sharna Brockett	Good evening. Yeah, thank you. Good evening, council members. You know, I'm basically agreeing with a lot of what's already been said here, but yeah, I think this is just a once in a generation opportunity.
04:18:48.34	Lily Deschampis	Good evening.
04:18:57.79	Sharna Brockett	to do this right. And I think this is in the heart of our downtown. It's really become a jewel with the SCA, you know, on one side that now the Tracy Promenade and the rest of the Ferry Plaza that's so beautiful. So let's really spend the money and do it right. This is where we welcome many visitors and our residents. And it's worth doing it right. And, you know, I just want to emphasize, let's just be careful not to be, you know, I think a lot of people say, let's just repave it as is. But I do think that's penny wise, pound foolish. I think that, you know, that we have technology, we know a lot more about the environment, we know a lot about infrastructure now than we did today, in the past when it was first paved, we should use that knowledge and do better, especially in the most important part of our downtown. So please move forward and approve the forward climate resilient RFP. Thank you.
04:19:52.80	Mayor Cox	Thank you. City Clerk.
04:19:57.39	Unknown	Vicki Nichols.
04:19:59.72	Mayor Cox	Welcome.
04:19:59.99	Vicki Nichols	Thank you.
04:20:00.02	Mayor Cox	back Vicki.
04:20:00.61	Vicki Nichols	Thank you.
04:20:01.42	Vicki Nichols	Hi, good evening, counsel. Who wouldn't love this plan?
04:20:05.83	Vicki Nichols	This is a beautiful plan.
04:20:08.00	Vicki Nichols	I think that having Sarah on board in public works has been like a wonderful addition.
04:20:14.81	Vicki Nichols	She has helped, she took me through a
04:20:18.65	Vicki Nichols	guided tour of the Dunphy park renovation. She's knowledgeable. She's innovative. We're lucky.
04:20:24.19	Vicki Nichols	I was happy to hear her introduce this plan tonight, but I'd like to be a little
04:20:28.52	Vicki Nichols	more probably pragmatic
04:20:31.21	Vicki Nichols	This process has been going on for years. We took years to spend the money.
04:20:37.27	Vicki Nichols	that was the grant, thank goodness the
04:20:40.10	Vicki Nichols	um,
04:20:41.22	Vicki Nichols	British district was
04:20:42.58	Vicki Nichols	generous and let us keep extending.
04:20:45.20	Vicki Nichols	But I think this is somewhat of a creep. Many of the people that flooded the council meeting that night
04:20:51.10	Vicki Nichols	to get this approved.
04:20:53.32	Vicki Nichols	when it was very clear that some of the designers said there would be overruns or they had different things to add later.
04:20:59.90	Vicki Nichols	have now come back and asked for this. I'm not against this, but I'd like to be factual.
04:21:05.55	Vicki Nichols	that this traditionally in any other project would be considered an overrun.
04:21:10.12	Vicki Nichols	So I'd like you to consider that when you're doing it. I'm actually fine with you even improving it.
04:21:15.34	Vicki Nichols	But we need to figure out if you're going to approve this, where does it come from somewhere else?
04:21:20.55	Vicki Nichols	I leave it up to you, but I think we need to be honest about what we're doing tonight. We're approving something that is above and beyond what was approved. It's a wonderful plan.
04:21:30.49	Vicki Nichols	but we need to be clear about what we're doing. Thank you.
04:21:35.38	Unknown	Thank you.
04:21:36.08	Mayor Cox	City Clerk?
04:21:36.53	Unknown	Next speaker is Babette McDougall.
04:21:39.87	Vicki Nichols	Thank you.
04:21:39.91	Babette McDougall	Welcome back, Bebet.
04:21:40.83	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
04:21:43.08	Babette McDougall	Thank you, Madam Mayor. Well, gosh, first I was going to spin off of Adrian, then I was going to spin off of somebody else, you know, then I was going to, well, I just think you've heard a lot of really good input here. I keep thinking back to the very beginning of,
04:21:57.76	Babette McDougall	When certain council members of Brownie were saying, wait a minute, what about the parking lot issue here? We're losing spots, you know, like the 1022 and the this and the that. And there was so much argument and arm wrestling back then. And nobody really wanted to drill down on those details. So now we kind of keep coming back to the here and now.
04:22:21.33	Babette McDougall	And I would just like to reiterate,
04:22:23.38	Babette McDougall	that now that we have a sustainability team,
04:22:26.94	Babette McDougall	I don't think we can do anything near our shoreline that doesn't somehow vet
04:22:32.18	Babette McDougall	through
04:22:32.94	Babette McDougall	that sustainability team.
04:22:34.90	Babette McDougall	It would be suicidal for us to consider anything other.
04:22:38.87	Babette McDougall	And with that in mind, I do like the idea of being flexible. Like here's where I really do.
04:22:43.98	Babette McDougall	agree with what Adrian had to say.
04:22:46.19	Babette McDougall	We got to get back to the basics and we have to remember our bottom line.
04:22:50.04	Babette McDougall	But we also have to be flexible about the future.
04:22:53.38	Babette McDougall	So whatever that takes, I don't know the answer yet either.
04:22:57.25	Babette McDougall	But I love the whole sustainability approach
04:23:00.50	Babette McDougall	I also want to just remember that
04:23:02.68	Babette McDougall	Remember our roots, you know, there are some bottom line considerations. There is this parking issue.
04:23:08.28	Babette McDougall	So we do have to address it.
04:23:10.24	Babette McDougall	Thank you.
04:23:10.75	Babette McDougall	I'm looking forward to some creative solving here. Thank you.
04:23:14.93	Unknown	Thank you.
04:23:17.21	Unknown	Next speaker is Senator Bushmaker.
04:23:21.27	Sandra Bushmaker	I just have a few quick comments to make.
04:23:25.04	Sandra Bushmaker	Like the paving issue, this feels like it has grown into something much bigger than repaving parking lot one and restriping it.
04:23:34.52	Sandra Bushmaker	I'm in favor of getting on with the repaving and the restriping.
04:23:39.25	Sandra Bushmaker	This other work, this re-imagining and this creative work,
04:23:43.16	Sandra Bushmaker	May have a place in our town for that area, but I don't, I think it's going to take time and money to get there.
04:23:51.01	Sandra Bushmaker	Meanwhile, we have a dangerous parking lot. We've already heard
04:23:56.44	Sandra Bushmaker	People on both sides of this issue talk about the horrible condition of the parking lot.
04:24:01.81	Sandra Bushmaker	I do think we need to get that taken care of right away. I am not
04:24:07.68	Sandra Bushmaker	saying I'm against the other stuff.
04:24:10.26	Sandra Bushmaker	But I do think our priority is getting that lot serviceable in a way. We've lost 39 parking spaces in that lot with the Ferry Landside improvements.
04:24:23.95	Sandra Bushmaker	I'm concerned about the loss of revenue.
04:24:26.80	Sandra Bushmaker	while we reimagine things. So I think that we need to,
04:24:31.68	Sandra Bushmaker	Get our approved project done.
04:24:34.83	Sandra Bushmaker	And that was to repave and restripe parking lot one. Thank you.
04:24:40.69	Sandra Bushmaker	Thank you.
04:24:41.40	Mayor Cox	City clerk?
04:24:42.55	Unknown	Next speaker is Alice Merrill.
04:24:46.00	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
04:24:46.04	Alice Merrill	Well,
04:24:46.12	Mayor Cox	Welcome back, Allison.
04:24:46.97	Alice Merrill	us.
04:24:49.75	Alice Merrill	Hi, I would agree with
04:24:53.95	Alice Merrill	Vicky and Sandra and, you know, the old timers,
04:24:59.30	Alice Merrill	We need the parking lot. We need the parking. I know that there have been envisionings of no parking and just being a pretty park.
04:25:08.38	Alice Merrill	We need the parking. That's...
04:25:11.11	Alice Merrill	Number one, and then if you want to make it pretty,
04:25:14.51	Alice Merrill	make it pretty. I think it's really, it doesn't, I mean, other than it's not safe, I agree, but the trees, they just are pretty trees. And so you don't see the cars so much unless you're digging in. But I just think that
04:25:33.12	Alice Merrill	Um,
04:25:34.82	Alice Merrill	that if you can do things with a new look, fine.
04:25:40.51	Alice Merrill	This town is a lovely, lovely town.
04:25:44.05	Alice Merrill	town. It does not need to be a 20th, 21st century different place. It
04:25:51.04	Alice Merrill	It's just a wonderful place. That's why everybody's here. So I'm a little, I'm always skeptical of people who are saying it could be
04:26:00.03	Alice Merrill	so much prettier, so much this or that. It's really lovely. And so let's, um,
04:26:06.82	Alice Merrill	Let's enjoy that. And then it's let's keep the parking. Sorry went on so long. Goodbye. Thank you.
04:26:14.14	Alice Merrill	City Clerk.
04:26:15.88	Unknown	Next speaker is Peter Van Meter.
04:26:21.84	Mayor Cox	Welcome back, Peter.
04:26:23.17	Peter Van Meter	Thank you. So pleased you're moving ahead to finish off our major downtown improvement projects. This parking lot will really make it beautiful and that you're considering creative alternatives. And I just need to remind everybody with the Yacht Club supplemental, you actually have more parking than you ever had before. So lots of parking spaces with a realignment of how they're arranged in this lot and redesign is not going to be a factor. And sorry, Morgan, those half-dead trees do have to go regardless of root ball problems. I love the comments that Mark made as well. But creative thinking does cost money. And I think that selecting the best among the two responsive proposals is the right thing to do. And perhaps the staff has an opportunity to actually negotiate that fee a little bit with the selected vendor. It does seem a little bit high to me, but again, professionals know the right answer on that. And perhaps when you get that most creative design opportunity from the best among the proposals, that fee could be negotiated a little bit as well. But please do move ahead with the creative alternative planning. It's just essential and can have a best long-term result for the City of Sausalito. Thank you.
04:26:23.19	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
04:26:23.52	Unknown	So pleased you're moving
04:26:33.18	Grover Deer	and, you know,
04:27:42.97	Faye Rudio	Thank you.
04:27:43.02	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
04:27:43.04	Faye Rudio	Thank you.
04:27:43.21	Mayor Cox	clerk.
04:27:45.18	Unknown	We have a Karen Culligan.
04:27:48.35	Mayor Cox	Welcome back, Karen.
04:27:50.38	Karen Culligan	Hey, good to be back. I mean, I've been to the Mission District, I bought my daughter a bike, I'm back home now, all along the course of this meeting.
04:27:57.35	Karen Culligan	Ah.
04:27:58.72	Karen Culligan	Mark Palmer said it great. I don't need to repeat it because he said it way better than I did about the merits.
04:28:03.91	Karen Culligan	of this project. It's very hard for me to get excited about paving the parking lot.
04:28:08.79	Karen Culligan	But there are safety issues needs to be done. And this idea of tacking on visioning to understand what it could be, you know, are there phases around it? When we go pour asphalt, is it with an idea in mind in terms of where this place is headed? Because there are ways to make it better. You know, I don't believe that we're just trying to encase this place in amber. It's falling apart in many respects. Lot one is one of them. Let's figure out ways to do it better. I mean, I love what the fairyland side looks like. I'd love to have something that complements it. So I'd love to see this move forward.
04:28:45.24	Unknown	And then Fred and Mark.
04:28:48.26	Vicki Nichols	Welcome, Fred.
04:28:54.88	Fred Moore	Fred.
04:28:56.01	Fred Moore	Oh, I apologize. I thought I lowered my hand after Peter made some great comments that I think are worth considering. And I seem to hear many people talking about how nice it would be to implement alternatives for the parking lot, but then they just want to move forward and pave it. I don't think you can do both. I think the overwhelming majority of comments seem to applaud the potential of looking at alternatives to make the parking lot better. Just going by now and repaving and restriping it and then looking down the road how to make it better is just wasting money. So I would reiterate Peter's comments. And I think those are all great considerations for the council. And thank you again for your time.
04:29:40.39	Mayor Cox	City Clerk.
04:29:41.57	Unknown	No further public speakers.
04:29:42.90	Unknown	Thank you.
04:29:42.92	Mayor Cox	I'm going to close public comment. I actually have a couple more questions for Director McGowan. So we heard about three things, more than three, but three that I notated particularly. In Sarah's presentation, it made reference to $1 million construction.
04:30:00.07	Mayor Cox	Back in 20...
04:30:03.22	Mayor Cox	16, when we got the 2.5 million in grant funding, my dear departed friend, Bill Werner, did a cost estimate for repaving and restriping Lot 1, and it came up to nearly $2.5 million.
04:30:23.30	Mayor Cox	And so my question to you is, is it your
04:30:27.33	Mayor Cox	cost estimate today that the cost of repaving...
04:30:30.83	Mayor Cox	of carrying out the construction
04:30:33.31	Mayor Cox	is $1 million.
04:30:36.73	Kevin McGowan	That's kind of a trick question I used basically for the CIP, the latest amount that we have for asphalt based off of its area. Maybe your acquaintance or friend took into more, took in more items that I had originally anticipated. So I tend to want to err on something more conservative. And I would suggest that maybe my number is a little bit low.
04:31:06.72	Kevin McGowan	Okay.
04:31:06.97	Mayor Cox	Bye.
04:31:07.63	Mayor Cox	Um,
04:31:08.83	Mayor Cox	We heard about
04:31:13.94	Mayor Cox	a timeline,
04:31:15.26	Mayor Cox	When we heard the presentation from the Golden Gate Bridge District the other night, I asked,
04:31:20.19	Mayor Cox	will your equipment damage our newly paved parking lot? And he somewhat cavalierly responded, well, if it does, we'll replace it.
04:31:32.73	Mayor Cox	And so what is the time? What is, if we go out today and suppose we hire a consultant who brings us back
04:31:43.44	Mayor Cox	the concept plans that you're seeking.
04:31:45.99	Mayor Cox	What is your timeline for when construction would actually
04:31:50.58	Mayor Cox	commence and how does that dovetail with
04:31:53.06	Mayor Cox	the Golden Gate Bridge District timeline
04:31:55.71	Mayor Cox	for their heavy equipment carrying 40 truckloads of
04:32:01.02	Kevin McGowan	materials. So that question has a lot of layers. So let's try the first layer first. Sarah, can you comment on the concept design and how much time that needs?
04:32:16.40	Sarah	Yeah.
04:32:17.24	Sarah	obviously approximately it can take, um,
04:32:22.74	Sarah	between six months to one year to develop three alternatives. It will take time and it has to be vetted by you. So we have to bring it back to the council and have discussions. I think that's the value of discussing that. So I would say six to 12 months minimum.
04:32:41.66	Sarah	Thank you.
04:32:41.68	Mayor Cox	And then what's your construction? Well, it obviously depends. But if we were just resurfacing, I'm not suggesting that's my vote, but if we were just resurfacing and repainting,
04:32:51.83	Susan Sammels	Mm-hmm.
04:32:52.58	Mayor Cox	What's your construction timeline? Obviously, we are constrained...
04:32:56.14	Mayor Cox	in the period of the during the time of year that we can do that based on surrounding businesses
04:33:01.24	Sarah	I mean, if we can go by ferry land side, I think it's probably more extensive for the ferry, but I would say, um,
04:33:09.22	Sarah	Kevin, do you have a better number for his choice? And go for it.
04:33:12.88	Kevin McGowan	So if we simply go back out to an RFP to have it redesigned, we're probably looking at two to three months for a simple redesign. You get a month after that for at least bidding, and they could be ready to start in the late fall. I would not suggest that because you're facing rain. I would say next April is more a probable time to get going on that. And the construction would have to be staged in such a fashion so that it would not significantly close the lot. You'd have to swap sides and do all sorts of other stuff. So you're looking at April, May at the earliest. Let's get real. Let's say July next year.
04:33:54.95	Mayor Cox	And then when is the, remind me when Golden Gate Bridge District is going to complete their reconstruction.
04:34:01.21	Kevin McGowan	They have a year and a half. So if we complete our resurfacing of the parking lot, they will still be constructing their work.
04:34:11.47	Kevin McGowan	they will still be at it. Now, how do we address, this is the next layer, how do we address the ferry district when they're bringing in concrete loads? So we can address that in several different ways simply by putting and spreading out the load with a concrete plate on the ground itself. I can work with the district if we want to move in that direction so we avoid that particular issue. So there are ways and I would have to have more detail from the district, but
04:34:38.30	Kevin McGowan	Now that we know if we're going to move in that direction, we would want to address it in a certain way.
04:34:43.29	Mayor Cox	So is it your recommendation as you stand here tonight that we proceed
04:34:48.02	Mayor Cox	and redo our parking lot before Golden Gate Bridge District completes its construction on the waterside improvements.
04:34:56.42	Kevin McGowan	If we move forward with what we're recommending this evening at looking at a more intense look at this area, I would suspect that we would want to coordinate with the district and say, all right, when do you need to get this concrete in here such that you would impact this parking lot? Try to deal with that before we actually pave so that we can work with the district and say, okay, as of, I'm just making it up as of next year in, where are we? August let's pretend we're gonna pay, try to get all their work done that could impact the parking lot.
04:35:31.49	Kevin McGowan	before we actually pay it.
04:35:33.53	Kevin McGowan	We would try to coordinate with them.
04:35:35.62	Kevin McGowan	Okay.
04:35:36.38	Mayor Cox	Those were my questions. So I'm ready now. There's no motion. Once again, this is to provide.
04:35:43.88	Mayor Cox	direction and the direction
04:35:45.82	Mayor Cox	they are seeking is do we recommend proceeding with the
04:35:50.37	Mayor Cox	uh,
04:35:51.42	Mayor Cox	consultant that can find its proposal to
04:35:55.55	Mayor Cox	the reconstruction of lot one, or do we ask staff to negotiate the best price with the consultant who can provide three alternatives to, um,
04:36:13.22	Mayor Cox	create a more comprehensive design.
04:36:16.78	Mayor Cox	I want to say, even if we pay this, so first of all, someone said, we're going to pay an additional $300. We're not going to pay an additional $300. We're going to pay an additional $300.
04:36:25.35	Mayor Cox	one.
04:36:26.67	Mayor Cox	150 or 200
04:36:30.69	Mayor Cox	What's the difference between the lowest price to just design the reconstruction and the highest price to undertake the three concepts?
04:36:40.36	Kevin McGowan	So let's back up a sec.
04:36:42.55	Kevin McGowan	What we're requesting at this point is to develop a conceptual plan. Right. These are just concepts. I understand. So even after that, in order to develop the full plan, we'll have to get another designer or the same designer to put together a bid spec. So there will be more cost on type of that.
04:37:03.00	Mayor Cox	So we're paying $300 just to get concept designs? Yes. That's really expensive. It is. That's why we're bringing it up.
04:37:08.50	Kevin McGowan	That's why we're bringing it up.
04:37:09.90	Kevin McGowan	Thank you.
04:37:10.63	Mayor Cox	Yeah, that is outrageously expensive for concept. That's 30%. I mean, we should have at least DDs for...
04:37:19.90	Mayor Cox	I mean, $300,000.
04:37:22.83	Kevin McGowan	That's why we needed your input. So thank you so much.
04:37:26.29	Mayor Cox	Well, no, thank you for clarifying that this is not the final designs. This is, this is not even three fully baked designs. This is three concepts. So.
04:37:29.62	Kevin McGowan	Yeah.
04:37:32.96	Kevin McGowan	on.
04:37:36.96	Mayor Cox	My first recommendation is to have staff push back on the pricing. That is outrageous. Typically, um,
04:37:46.29	Mayor Cox	design should not be more than between 5% and 10% of...
04:37:51.49	Mayor Cox	construction.
04:37:53.07	Mayor Cox	And so if construction is truly a million or say you're wrong, it's 1.5 or even two, then we should not be spending anything more than $200,000 at the out.
04:38:03.18	Mayor Cox	side for complete designs, not concept designs. So that is just way outrageous.
04:38:09.78	Kevin McGowan	Yes, I understand. And that's one reason we brought it to you. Another thing that they are that we included is wayfinding.
04:38:17.20	Kevin McGowan	So
04:38:18.18	Kevin McGowan	If we take a look at resurfacing the entire lot, we didn't include wayfinding in that original scope, but it is included here.
04:38:25.98	Kevin McGowan	So something to consider.
04:38:28.21	Kevin McGowan	Thank you.
04:38:28.22	Mayor Cox	So what is the delta in price between simply designing the reconstruction and the lowest price to do the three concepts?
04:38:39.66	Mayor Cox	Okay.
04:38:39.75	Joan Saxton	About 200.
04:38:40.13	Mayor Cox	on.
04:38:41.22	Mayor Cox	So we're essentially between 100 and 300. Okay. So I think...
04:38:48.52	Mayor Cox	Boy, I was really persuaded by Adrian and by
04:38:53.60	Mayor Cox	Um,
04:38:54.75	Mayor Cox	Roger, but I am really...
04:38:58.16	Mayor Cox	you
04:38:58.22	Babette McDougall	I
04:38:59.03	Mayor Cox	First of all, if we get three concepts, I don't know if we can afford any of them other than repaving.
04:39:04.86	Mayor Cox	But I really wanted to see what the three concepts might be and to explore sustainability and sea level rise. But to spend $300,000 just for concepts, not even for fully baked designs, I feel like
04:39:22.21	Mayor Cox	and this is so jaded of me, but I feel like the,
04:39:30.03	Mayor Cox	consultants who know us best are taking advantage of their knowledge and knowing that we're going to want to go with their expertise to
04:39:40.97	Mayor Cox	you know, create the best possible project. And I really...
04:39:45.31	Mayor Cox	resent being put over a barrel in that way. So those are my initial thoughts.
04:39:49.96	Councilman Sobey	see why that would be your initial thought, Mayor. I mean, I don't know the this SWA, of course, I know because they did the ferry thing, but this other firm that was better, what are they called?
04:39:51.53	Mayor Cox	I mean,
04:39:59.45	Councilman Sobey	you
04:39:59.48	Kevin McGowan	CSW Stugustro out of Nevada.
04:40:01.37	Councilman Sobey	They independently, have they done work with us before?
04:40:04.00	Kevin McGowan	Yes. Yeah.
04:40:04.58	Councilman Sobey	So they've independently bid out this response to this RFP, which is,
04:40:04.61	Kevin McGowan	Thank you.
04:40:09.00	Councilman Sobey	I guess, you know, was put together by staff that has everything in the kitchen sink.
04:40:14.03	Councilman Sobey	So it really is a question of
04:40:18.01	Councilman Sobey	if I'm a
04:40:20.02	Councilman Sobey	municipality that has a legal issue.
04:40:23.11	Councilman Sobey	I can either do it on the cheap with
04:40:25.74	Councilman Sobey	my,
04:40:26.28	Councilman Sobey	estate planner, or I can hire you.
04:40:28.37	Councilman Sobey	If I'm in jail and I need to get out,
04:40:31.66	Councilman Sobey	going to hire the best litigator down there at the other end of the dais here because, and she's not going to be cheap. So you kind of get what you pay for in design.
04:40:40.72	Councilman Sobey	Yeah, I'm sure you're not cheap, Joe. It's like, so it's...
04:40:45.79	Councilman Sobey	you get what you pay for. I mean, you want to hire the right, use the right tool for the job. And in this case, Sarah laid out an ambitious once in a generation opportunity
04:40:59.25	Councilman Sobey	to get the best guidance, the best expertise before we invest millions of dollars.
04:41:05.36	Councilman Sobey	In
04:41:06.47	Councilman Sobey	literally concrete and pavement or some other material.
04:41:10.37	Councilman Sobey	To your point, Bill Werner had a different estimate for what the place would cost. Director McGowan does his best job with the estimating tools he has. But part of the idea is that this whole approach could actually save money in the long run in a couple ways. One is the estimates could be a lot more precise for implementing of these design choices. The cycle cost of the entire maintenance and installation could be much cheaper. The ability to apply for grants, because that would help guide what the design features are, could enable the defraying of a substantial amount of the construction costs or all of it. So this really is a question of, of, of,
04:41:51.89	Councilman Sobey	good government and good process. It's exactly what we were talking about earlier around trying to solve our other problems. Here we are in the dais trying to get
04:41:59.24	Councilman Sobey	ideas on holding yellow flags or having blinking lights and these are good ideas here from the dais but none of us are the kinds of experts who could really be like a good doctor treating a condition or a good lawyer trying to make the strongest case uh providing expertise not just to you and me but to the community about vision it's
04:42:19.81	Councilman Sobey	Thank you.
04:42:20.30	Councilman Sobey	It's a dollar wise, not penny foolish.
04:42:23.78	Mayor Cox	Understood. I'm worried that whatever the three concepts are, are going to be expensive to implement. So city manager, I'm going to put you on the spot.
04:42:30.36	Councilman Sobey	you on the spot. You can put a seal. You can only show us concepts that cost.
04:42:32.08	Mayor Cox	Like she only shows concepts exactly cost.
04:42:35.66	Councilman Sobey	Some amount of money.
04:42:36.33	Mayor Cox	Okay, I'm going to ask a question, then I'll hear from the vice mayor. So what's the most that we, because we've just committed 16 million to infrastructure. So what's the most that we can do?
04:42:49.21	Mayor Cox	cobbled together to spend on the construction aspect of the ferry landing project, assuming that we commence construction sometime next year.
04:42:57.95	Mike Rogers	So let me walk through the budget that you just got, Mayor. So the parking fund, which could fund this project, has at the end of the year in 23, 24, it had $2,057,000 in it.
04:43:11.74	Mike Rogers	We estimate that at the end of this year, when we get our audit done,
04:43:16.51	Mike Rogers	It'll have $2.39 million in it.
04:43:20.50	Mike Rogers	$2,393,000. And even with the fund transfers, we estimate that at the end of the budget year that we'll get into or we are currently starting, there'll be $2,594,056 in that fund. That's your cash position that we're estimating. So that's one fund. The other fund that could potentially play into this is obviously the Titleist Fund. And so the Titleist Fund, and I'm just going off the top of my head, the revenue from that is about $750,000 a year.
04:43:55.97	Mike Rogers	and expenses to it are about 400,000 a year. So it's netting $300,000 a year, and I can get the fund balance or the cash on hand for you on that one. One of the other considerations are what about the other parking lots? So when you look at the Veritas study and you look at the amount of money that the city would need to work on the other parking lots, it's $2.8 million.
04:44:18.44	Mayor Cox	2.1.
04:44:19.10	Mike Rogers	Eight.
04:44:20.03	Mike Rogers	So theoretically, you will have that in full next year. So it's more a question of appetite as opposed to financial constraints.
04:44:32.92	Mayor Cox	Well, next year we'll have 2,594,000. That's short of the 2.8 we need for the other three parking lots.
04:44:41.19	Mike Rogers	Mayor, let me just point to you.
04:44:42.90	Mike Rogers	We wouldn't do all other parking lots at once. Understood. And we would have time to capture revenue in out years, which would then add to that 2.5 and grow it. It's been growing $400,000 a year for the last couple of years. So, you know, so again, I repeat what I said. It's not really a financial question. It's more of an appetite question in terms of what you want to see done.
04:45:08.36	Mayor Cox	Okay, the Vice Mayor had his hand up, and then I'll go to Councilmember Hoffman.
04:45:12.34	Vice Mayor Woodside	Thank you. I shared the concerns that this is costly, but I think it's imperative that we have a quality, intelligent design.
04:45:23.14	Vice Mayor Woodside	before we move forward. I think simply putting asphalt on a problem
04:45:29.52	Vice Mayor Woodside	won't solve the problem. The roots will still grow if we don't really
04:45:33.94	Vice Mayor Woodside	redesign in a more intelligent way that takes into account the factors that have been discussed this evening.
04:45:40.69	Vice Mayor Woodside	So I think that's in my mind, that's the heart of the question tonight.
04:45:44.83	Vice Mayor Woodside	Are we going to go forward with
04:45:47.01	Vice Mayor Woodside	intelligent planning and design.
04:45:49.40	Vice Mayor Woodside	We don't have an approved scope right now. The simple idea that it might cost a million dollars simply to put more asphalt on
04:45:57.84	Vice Mayor Woodside	I don't know what the answer is here, and I think we need expertise. And what I'm anxious to avoid is a repeat of
04:46:06.72	Vice Mayor Woodside	the several month, um,
04:46:09.40	Vice Mayor Woodside	really difficult process dealing with the Ferryland side project
04:46:14.97	Vice Mayor Woodside	where there seemed to be there were moving targets and moving concerns from the time the Council in February of 24 approved a project
04:46:25.14	Vice Mayor Woodside	It kept there were issues that were outstanding. And that's why I think spending the money up front to get a quality design is the heart of the question before us tonight. And I think we should move forward with it. I do share concerns. It seems expensive.
04:46:42.00	Vice Mayor Woodside	I don't know what to say about that other than to try our best to try to get the cost down.
04:46:42.27	Unknown	I don't.
04:46:47.79	Vice Mayor Woodside	We do need an intelligent design in order to move forward.
04:46:55.30	Councilmember Hoffman	Councilmember Huffman.
04:46:56.80	Councilmember Hoffman	So, um,
04:46:58.32	Councilmember Hoffman	Yes, we have some money in our parking fund, but remember we also have,
04:47:06.92	Councilmember Hoffman	We have expenses for parking lots. So we have money generated by our parking lots that we also transfer to balance our budget. And we also have deferred maintenance on our parking lots, not just to redo what we're talking about right now, which is construction of our parking lot one, but also.
04:47:26.77	Councilmember Hoffman	Maintenance on parking lots two, three, four, and five.
04:47:29.99	Councilmember Hoffman	parking lot five we talked about tonight that we're trying to repave at the end of locusts so that we can actually start generating revenue off of that parking lot which we are not generating revenue at this time and so everybody wants you know we're all aligned that we need to resurface or redo parking lot one and so i think we want to move forward on that i'm also shocked and alarmed that we're talking about $300,000 just for designs. I completely agree with our mayor that it seems that somebody is taking trying to take advantage of us at $300,000 for some design concepts right off the top.
04:48:10.68	Councilmember Hoffman	You know, I can see from the slides some things that I don't think need to be in the design concept. One is a solar canopy integration. I don't think anybody in this room thinks that that's a good idea for parking lot one. That was my idea. I would say. Oh, sorry.
04:48:25.17	Councilmember Hoffman	Pardon me, but I mean, do we really want a solar canopy integration in parking lot one? And you're talking about like the roof over the parking lot? No, I'm talking about individual.
04:48:32.21	Mayor Cox	No, I'm talking about individual over parking stalls. I've done it for many municipalities.
04:48:36.99	Councilmember Hoffman	And I've seen those, and I think they're in a high school that's awesome, but not in parking lot one. So we can talk about that perhaps in our discussion. You know, obviously, apparently we're all agreed that no more reduction in parking numbers or parking stalls. And so I'm glad that we're all aligned on that. I'm, you know, neutral on alternatives to asphalt. I THINK THERE'S NO EVIDENCE there's any heat index issues with parking lot one or actually in all of sausalito so i wouldn't want to have any uh consultant money wasted on uh you know heat index or any issues with regarding that um unless anybody can give me any evidence that there's any issues with heat index issues with Sausalito today it was 60 degrees with a heat index of 58 so and it's July 22nd so sea level rise mitigation we've looked at that a lot in Sausalito we just looked at that with the bridgeway bike lanes it didn't look like it was going to be any significant issue um for uh bridgeway uh facing the city which is i think more at risk than parking lot one and we as we just discussed the ferry uh company doesn't seem to think that there's an issue there and i don't think there's an issue with parking lot one i wouldn't want to waste any money unless there's evidence of a significant issue, but I don't think that there is. So I think we might be able to get the numbers down. Absolutely. If we're thinking about going down this road, I think we just need to tell the, you know, tell the consultant, give us your bids at $100,000. I mean, I think that's your, we don't need the Cadillac. If we're going to look at different alternatives, I think we need to to look at that interestingly if you go back and look at the business improvement district wayfinding is in their remit and so a council member Blaustein I look forward to your report on that that way findings in there it's in their their package to
04:50:41.54	Councilmember Hoffman	respond to that so i wouldn't think that wayfinding would be that we would need to do that um
04:50:46.79	Councilmember Hoffman	There was another issue in here that's also, you know, event planning or
04:50:52.51	Councilmember Hoffman	events and things like that. Farmers market, those kinds of event issues is also in the business improvement district remit. So those fall in that bucket. The city's already paying for that through the business improvement district.
04:51:05.17	Councilmember Hoffman	those things would shift over, I would think. So that would come off whatever bid that we would put out. So I would perhaps approach it that way and with the direction of those things, no loss of parking spaces, and I would remove those issues from the RFP if we decide to go that way and just issue the RFP in that way. By the way, I did have a follow-up question for Kevin. I believe we did the bioswale that we authorized that's already in the parking lot was a robust and oversized bioswale for the purpose of...
04:51:43.12	Councilmember Hoffman	of the runoff from the parking lot, even though it's oversized for the size of the parking lot. Isn't that right?
04:51:48.05	Kevin McGowan	Well, I know there's a bioswale. I'm not too sure if it's oversized or not. I can check.
04:51:51.62	Councilmember Hoffman	I think it is, and we did it purposefully for sustainability reasons. So I wouldn't think that we would need to go too much further into that issue. So, I mean, if you would look into that, that would be great. Thank you.
04:52:05.26	Mayor Cox	All right. Councilmember Blaustein.
04:52:07.18	Cassie	Thank you. I appreciate it. I definitely hear the concerns around cost, as is an important conversation that we have with any critical policy decision we're making or allocation of budget, and I wouldn't be opposed to pushing back on the cost, but what I would absolutely be opposed to is pushing back on important parts of the scope of the proposal such that it would be just repaving the lot. What I keep thinking about over and over again is if we do this again, imagine if when we did the RFP or whatever to repave the lot the last time, and I don't know what year that was, it's obviously based on where, been quite some time, but if we had been thoughtful about creating an environment for resilience, perhaps we would have picked different trees or we would have been more aware of the outcome of the roots of the trees in the establishment of the lot.
04:52:58.97	Cassie	and created a longer term lasting solution. And that is just one example.
04:53:03.49	Cassie	That is practical application for why
04:53:05.99	Cassie	creating elements of design in this proposal is so critical, but beyond practical application,
04:53:11.81	Cassie	and our important emphasis on climate resilience in a lens of climate and thinking about sea level rise, we are really seeing amazing improvements in our downtown, and I appreciate that the Business Improvement District will be putting on events in our downtown, which is great, and we'll have wayfinding and plants and planters up, and there's a great seating area. And as we think about the approach to our downtown and a collaborative effort to make it a space that residents want to go to, I've seen more and more
04:53:41.87	Cassie	residents that
04:53:43.13	Cassie	ever before actually walking to downtown, enjoying the downtown, enjoying the plaza,
04:53:48.16	Cassie	And this is our opportunity to continue to be a part of that, to make a plan that is forward thinking and to embrace design. So while I wouldn't be opposed to some sort of pushback to just say like, hey, we want to work with you, but this is outside of our budget. I mean, I'm open to that kind of conversation, but I'm not open to removing the ideas of important design components in our piece. So whatever. I mean, I would welcome your suggestions on that because we don't want to get the short end of the stick here if that's what it seems like is happening. But if this is the market cost for this type of design, then I think it's an investment that's worthwhile.
04:54:22.96	Councilman Sobey	Yeah, from where I guess, yeah, I agree with that. I mean, it would be, in the staff report, the language that they use, mayor is authorized staff to negotiate and return to council for approval, to authorize the city manager to seek a professional services agreement,
04:54:38.25	Councilman Sobey	with the recommended consultant for the expanded scope. So like my colleague, I wouldn't change the scope at all. I would authorize staff to negotiate. And I think if I'm sensing there's some desire to push back on costs, so I think if we offered 250K, then there'd be a chance that we need them. So I propose that as the motion that I would make.
04:55:03.91	Councilman Sobey	you
04:55:04.01	Councilman Sobey	So-
04:55:04.32	Mayor Cox	Yeah.
04:55:04.39	Councilman Sobey	Let them.
04:55:04.98	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
04:55:05.15	Councilman Sobey	Let them return.
04:55:05.97	Mayor Cox	response.
04:55:06.31	Councilman Sobey	Thank you.
04:55:06.40	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
04:55:07.61	Mayor Cox	I'm going to respond because I don't see any other hands raised. I would...
04:55:12.23	Mayor Cox	endorse pushing back on cost i and i would endorse council member hoffman's um
04:55:18.76	Mayor Cox	approach of also seeing what possible components within the proposal we can dial back. I don't think we're going to in the near future put a farmer's market downtown. We have a farmer's market at Dunphy Park.
04:55:30.32	Mayor Cox	Or if we do, it's Tracy Way, not Lot 1. And that's really for the PBID to give recommendations about.
04:55:39.92	Mayor Cox	um,
04:55:41.21	Mayor Cox	And the solar panels, you know, that was a canopies. That was my, you know, oh, that would be a great idea, but that's not something that's necessary to the functionality or the future flexibility of lot one. So I would focus on features that are sustainable,
04:56:00.61	Mayor Cox	and see if there's a way to take a haircut on some of those procedures. More importantly, I would like to know, I would like to negotiate.
04:56:09.44	Mayor Cox	a
04:56:11.09	Mayor Cox	30%, but then, and also not to exceed for CDs.
04:56:16.95	Mayor Cox	So we know that it's going to be 30. We know that schematic drawings, concept drawings at 30% are going to be
04:56:25.35	Mayor Cox	200, 250, whatever. But I would like to also negotiate now
04:56:30.53	Mayor Cox	what turning those into full construction drawings would be, have a not to exceed amount.
04:56:35.48	Mayor Cox	for the full construction drawings.
04:56:39.28	Mayor Cox	I don't want to have you come back to us with designs that we love.
04:56:44.05	Mayor Cox	And then here it's another million dollars to turn those into construction drawings.
04:56:48.49	Councilman Sobey	Well, we're going to have to authorize any contracts still. This isn't the deciding meeting.
04:56:53.57	Mayor Cox	I just want them to propose and not to accept.
04:56:54.70	Councilman Sobey	I was responding to your comment with that, that you're giving them direction.
04:56:56.23	Mayor Cox	Okay.
04:56:59.95	Councilman Sobey	on how to negotiate. And there's going to be something that comes back to us that we have to act on.
04:57:04.82	Unknown	Right.
04:57:05.14	Councilman Sobey	Right. So I guess what I'm saying is that sounds like great direction.
04:57:08.40	Unknown	Thank you.
04:57:09.01	Councilman Sobey	Add that to that. I would nudge back on reducing the scope because things like, for instance, I agree with you,
04:57:18.34	Councilman Sobey	Tracy Way is the natural place to do a farmer's market, but to stage a farmer's market on Tracy Way
04:57:23.79	Councilman Sobey	There has to be a vehicle that parks in the parking lot and communication from that vehicle to the stall.
04:57:29.90	Councilman Sobey	that services them. That's a design element that matters. And this is exactly what designers do. It's sort of like, if I'm practicing law, I can fake it to lay people and you would see where I don't know what I'm talking about. And I think,
04:57:44.45	Councilman Sobey	designers in the room or at home watching on TV are like, like, they don't get the key element of the, of what we do for a living. Absolutely. So I would say we should authorize the staff recommendation. And obviously we, um, there's allergy about the price. And so we want the price to come down. Uh, and you want to add some of these issues about getting, um, visibility into what their 30 or 50% drawing costs would be.
04:57:52.43	Jacques Ullman	Absolutely. Absolutely.
04:58:13.10	Mayor Cox	And then I didn't quite finish my comment. I'd also like to share with them, I'd like us to identify and share with them a not to exceed cost for the overall project, for the construction.
04:58:25.05	Mayor Cox	Yeah, so that we share, listen, we're not prepared to spend more than $2 million on this or 2.5 million, or that they have to provide us with a phased approach.
04:58:35.80	Councilman Sobey	What number do you suggest? That's a great idea.
04:58:35.90	Mayor Cox	at number two.
04:58:37.84	Councilman Sobey	Yeah.
04:58:38.09	Councilman Sobey	.
04:58:38.45	Councilman Sobey	What's the not-to-exceed price?
04:58:39.95	Councilman Sobey	Thank you.
04:58:40.10	Councilman Sobey	Thank you.
04:58:40.12	Councilmember Hoffman	I don't think...
04:58:41.26	Councilman Sobey	Go find a scope of what they propose.
04:58:41.28	Councilmember Hoffman	Because we're going to scope.
04:58:43.32	Councilmember Hoffman	Thank you.
04:58:43.78	Councilmember Hoffman	I don't know. We're ready to give a total number.
04:58:45.96	Mayor Cox	So it would be a not to exceed, and they could use a phased approach, right?
04:58:51.15	Mayor Cox	you know, do this in this year, do this in that year, something that could have add-ons or whatever. So I'm just asking for them to use their brain because we don't know. I'm asking them to use their brain to tell us. I think that's right. That's exactly what you're saying.
04:59:06.80	Councilman Sobey	what you want. It gives them some design goals to work towards.
04:59:07.40	Mayor Cox	Yeah.
04:59:09.14	Mayor Cox	Yes, design goals to work towards. And I always include in my
04:59:14.09	Mayor Cox	architectural contracts that if they design it to a price and it comes in over that price, they have to redesign it for free. There you go. So that's a provision I always include in my architectural contracts. So those are the types of safeguards that I would be seeking, particularly if we're going to pay the premium price for concept drawings of what's been proposed.
04:59:33.93	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
04:59:33.97	Mayor Cox	um,
04:59:35.45	Mayor Cox	So I don't think we're aligned totally on scope, but there could be a menu of options, I suppose, Kevin, and you could come back to us with, you know, if you want this, like if it's going to cost $50,000 to design the ability to have a farmer's market, I would say no, thank you. If, you know.
04:59:36.51	Judy W	I know.
04:59:56.61	Councilman Sobey	Yeah. I don't think that's the way designers work. I mean, I think we're now in the weeds of the design business and we maybe could get Morgan up here to talk about it. But I think your notion is on the right track, which is supply...
05:00:08.86	Councilman Sobey	the design goal of this project shouldn't cost more than and as you pick a number two and a half million dollars
05:00:15.09	Councilman Sobey	uh,
05:00:16.47	Councilman Sobey	would be the ceiling and of course less the better.
05:00:17.94	Unknown	Yeah.
05:00:19.58	Councilman Sobey	but let the designer have freedom of action to choose what the trade-offs are because it's not like farmers markets 50k it's like
05:00:23.68	Unknown	Yeah.
05:00:26.40	Councilman Sobey	This is what this design concept is. And this is what the other alternative is. And this has these virtues.
05:00:33.37	Councilman Sobey	And problems, and this has these other virtues and problems.
05:00:36.96	Mayor Cox	Yeah. All right. The vice mayor has his hand raised.
05:00:40.08	Vice Mayor Woodside	I really appreciate the last comments and the safeguards that you're posing, Mayor, and the input from...
05:00:47.37	Vice Mayor Woodside	member Sobieski about let's let the designers
05:00:51.49	Vice Mayor Woodside	uh,
05:00:52.35	Vice Mayor Woodside	come up with their best ideas. We have one of them in particular is one of the leading designers in the world working right here in Sausalito.
05:01:01.73	Vice Mayor Woodside	And they have a great sense of place making
05:01:06.44	Vice Mayor Woodside	And they know about things that are going on around the world that may or may not have application here. But let's let them look at our site.
05:01:14.76	Vice Mayor Woodside	and apply their expertise and see what they come up with.
05:01:17.85	Vice Mayor Woodside	I think that will give us a lot to work with.
05:01:21.34	Vice Mayor Woodside	as we go forward and hopefully within a reasonable price.
05:01:25.90	Mayor Cox	Yeah.
05:01:28.78	Mayor Cox	I agree.
05:01:30.59	Mayor Cox	There's one more.
05:01:32.21	Mayor Cox	There is one proposer that has not always enjoyed
05:01:36.73	Mayor Cox	a totally cordial relationship with our Public Works Department. And it would be important for me that our contract
05:01:43.78	Mayor Cox	if that were the proposer that was selected, included some requirement of decorum
05:01:48.36	Mayor Cox	or whatever because
05:01:49.83	Mayor Cox	Yeah.
05:01:50.50	Mayor Cox	Okay, so I'm seeing a thumbs up on that. So that's a concern to me.
05:01:54.03	Mayor Cox	It's a brilliant designer, but the relationship has been challenging from time to time.
05:02:00.73	Councilman Sobey	Thank you.
05:02:02.35	Councilman Sobey	Yes. As we heard from a totally unrelated incident at today's planning desk by a member of the public, the quorum should be a requirement of all our contracts.
05:02:03.34	Unknown	Thank you.
05:02:05.30	Mayor Cox	today's.
05:02:06.63	Mayor Cox	Yeah.
05:02:10.77	Mayor Cox	I really want to make sure we're protecting our staff.
05:02:13.48	Councilmember Hoffman	And so to be clear, the process, we've given direction. Yes, we're giving direction. And so the process is going to be, Kevin now has his direction. Public Works now has their direction.
05:02:23.47	Councilmember Hoffman	And then, uh,
05:02:24.86	Councilmember Hoffman	you're going to issue an RFP based on the direction and then he has
05:02:28.42	Mayor Cox	No, he hasn't.
05:02:28.96	Mayor Cox	He has proposals.
05:02:30.07	Councilmember Hoffman	negotiate. Oh, gotcha. Okay.
05:02:31.76	Mayor Cox	and come back to us with a proposed contract to approve.
05:02:32.03	Councilmember Hoffman	coming out.
05:02:38.32	Councilmember Hoffman	Of those three RFPs? The three proposals.
05:02:42.12	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
05:02:42.74	Councilman Sobey	Well, it's gonna be one of the two because the third candidate is the low. Yeah, it can't be the low one.
05:02:46.71	Mayor Cox	Yeah, it can't be the low one because we're asking for the menu of options. It's going to be one of the other.
05:02:47.91	Councilman Sobey	because we're asking for the menu of options. So it's going to be one of the other things.
05:02:52.50	Mayor Cox	And you can use the leverage of there being two different proposals to negotiate price and this menu of options concept that we're seeking. Okay, I see a thumbs up. All right. You have the direction you need? Okay, I see a thumbs up. Thank you again to our really learned residents and commission members who came and volunteered their thoughts on this challenging process. It's really important to our downtown, so it's important that we get it right. I'm going to put a $2.5 million because that's what Bill Werner estimated construction cost in 2016. If we do it for that, that would be it.
05:03:29.74	Councilman Sobey	That's the one addition, 2.5 million total cost. Yep.
05:03:33.15	Mayor Cox	Okay. All right. Thank you very much. And thank you, Director McGowan. You made it through. That's our limit. But to be clear, we're not authorizing that. We're not authorizing that. That's what they're designing, too, as a top limit. You made it through all three. Thank you so much.
05:03:49.65	Councilman Sobey	30 seconds or I'll come back. Okay.
05:03:51.73	Mayor Cox	Okay, I'm going to take 60 seconds and we're going to turn to the city manager report.
05:04:01.85	Mike Rogers	One item I want to inform the council and the public about, Sausalito has done fantastic work on its waterfront in terms of working with the 87 boats that were once there. Now you're down to two. In 2019, I believe, you created the Safe Harbor Program, which is a model. The county was a partner in that program. The Ritter House was a partner in that program. And so what we're looking to do is partner again with the county at the request of Mayor Cox and requested of the county to be partners in that effort this year. So the police department developed the $30,000 budget. You know, the county's agreed counties agreed to fund ten thousand dollars of it i think that's good news that's two two people left on the water from 87 and uh you know you know the bay ecologically better for it and the way that the city has gone about it compassionately is i believe a real model and it's with great gratitude that we thank Supervisor Mullen Peters and County Manager Derek Johnson for continuing the partnership. Thank you.
05:05:16.60	Mayor Cox	Thank you, City Manager.
05:05:18.67	Mayor Cox	Okay, next is city attorney information for council.
05:05:23.46	City Attorney Rudin	I'll be brief. As the council is likely aware, the governor's trailer bills, AB 130 and SB 131, had some pretty significant modifications to...
05:05:33.88	City Attorney Rudin	Both CEQA as well as various housing laws. Our firm has put out a legal alert for all of the clients. We're also working on preparing some detailed guidance for the community development department. And of course, we'll be sharing that with the city council as well.
05:05:50.11	Mayor Cox	Thank you very much.
05:05:51.95	Mayor Cox	Council member committee reports.
05:06:02.33	Mayor Cox	I'm drawing a blank.
05:06:04.50	Mayor Cox	I know I've been going to a lot of meetings.
05:06:07.98	Mayor Cox	Okay, appointments, I have none. Future agenda items. So the vice mayor and I have made a commitment to go through the future agenda items.
05:06:18.95	Mayor Cox	and populate our calendars for September, October, November, and December with what we think we can include from the future agenda items and we will share that information with the Council.
05:06:31.84	Councilmember Hoffman	Yes.
05:06:34.17	Councilmember Hoffman	I looked at the future list. I didn't see forensic audit on there. I think Mr. Flavin said he had over 100 signatures on there.
05:06:45.98	Councilmember Hoffman	on their petition for a forensic audit. I think that's significant. I think we should seriously consider that as a future agenda item if that's necessary, or we could just...
05:06:56.76	Councilmember Hoffman	do it.
05:06:57.07	Mayor Cox	you
05:06:57.85	Councilmember Hoffman	Thank you.
05:06:57.86	Mayor Cox	So I think we're working on a report that we will bring back to the council so that the council can make a decision about whether or not to undertake a forensic audit.
05:07:06.91	Councilmember Hoffman	Do you have an idea when that might come? Nope, we're working on it though.
05:07:12.04	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
05:07:12.95	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
05:07:13.08	Mayor Cox	It'll come during my reading.
05:07:15.82	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
05:07:15.92	Mayor Cox	if you wanna call it that.
05:07:17.01	Cassie	Thank you.
05:07:17.05	Mayor Cox	Bye.
05:07:17.17	Cassie	term I think is the appropriate word but up to you your highness
05:07:18.99	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
05:07:19.06	Mayor Cox	You're welcome.
05:07:20.05	Unknown	I'm going to go to the
05:07:25.69	Mayor Cox	The truth is we are all on the same level. I have only one vote, so much as I might wish otherwise.
05:07:32.19	Unknown	Thank you.
05:07:33.08	Mayor Cox	All right. Thank you for the Disaster Preparedness Committee minutes. Who is the chair that was appointed to the...
05:07:40.28	Councilmember Hoffman	Is it Bonnie? Was it Bonnie McGregor?
05:07:42.60	Mayor Cox	Bonnie McGregor's the chair. No, she's not the chair.
05:07:42.88	Cassie	McGregor's the chair. No, she's not the chair.
05:07:44.67	Mayor Cox	She-
05:07:44.86	Cassie	Thank you.
05:07:44.89	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
05:07:45.38	Cassie	No, Eric Little is the chair. He's a newer member. No, Bonnie's the secretary.
05:07:47.07	Unknown	Eric?
05:07:47.34	Mayor Cox	You are not.
05:07:47.56	Councilmember Hoffman	I'm going to go.
05:07:49.65	Mayor Cox	So the supervisor's office was asking, there's going to be a September emergency preparedness month put forward by the county.
05:07:59.88	Mayor Cox	And so we have a meeting
05:08:01.97	Cassie	Thank you.
05:08:02.19	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
05:08:02.26	Cassie	in
05:08:02.76	Mayor Cox	August.
05:08:02.97	Cassie	Thank you.
05:08:03.03	Mayor Cox	so if
05:08:03.98	Cassie	you want to share that information? And we should invite
05:08:06.68	Mayor Cox	I know.
05:08:06.91	Mayor Cox	to that meeting.
05:08:08.70	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
05:08:09.58	Mayor Cox	She's coordinating.
05:08:10.96	Mayor Cox	And she wanted to be able to coordinate with Eric Little. All right, other reports of significance. I'll take public comment on items 6A to 6C and 6E to 6G.
05:08:21.60	Unknown	We have Senator Bushmaker.
05:08:25.61	Sandra Bushmaker	I'm still here.
05:08:27.77	Sandra Bushmaker	I have a quick question.
05:08:29.90	Sandra Bushmaker	I, I,
05:08:31.99	Sandra Bushmaker	wanted to ask this several meetings ago, but unfortunately we missed a public comment. I, what is the source of the $5 million that we paid off our sewer bonds?
05:08:42.52	Sandra Bushmaker	Where did that money come from, the $5 million?
05:08:46.94	Sandra Bushmaker	That's my question.
05:08:48.43	Mike Rogers	Mayor Cox, Councilmembers, I can provide that information under city manager's report at the next meeting.
05:08:55.26	Mayor Cox	Thank you.
05:08:58.48	Mayor Cox	Any other public comment? No further public comment. All right. We will adjourn at 10.29 p.m. Thank you, everybody. Great work tonight.
05:09:00.39	Mike Rogers	I'm sorry.

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