City Council Jul 30, 2024
City Council Meeting Summary
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00:00:00 | None: None | The meeting is being called to order by Mary Sobieski. There is a brief discussion about the incorrect time on the clocks in the chambers and conference room, possibly due to recent power outages. (00:00:17) | No Motion | 0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral |
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00:00:28 | I: CALL TO ORDER, APPROVAL OF REMOTE PARTICIPATION BY COUNCIL, ROLL CALL & ADJOURN TO CLOSED SESSION – 5:00 PM | The meeting was called to order, roll was called, and the council approved Vice Mayor Cox's remote participation due to her recovery from surgery (00:00:50). The council then moved to discuss the items to be addressed in closed session, which included a conference with a real property negotiator regarding the MLK school site, a negotiation with the Sausalito Yacht Harbor, and a consultation with legal counsel regarding existing litigation (Paulson versus the city of Sausalito) (00:01:42). Vice Mayor Cox recused herself from the first item due to the proximity of her home to the property in question (00:02:00). Public comment was then opened, and the council subsequently adjourned to a closed session, planning to return at 6 p.m. (00:02:35). | Motion to approve Vice Mayor Cox's remote participation was moved and seconded, and a roll call vote was taken and passed (00:01:07). | 0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral |
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00:04:23 | II: RECONVENE TO OPEN SESSION - 6:00 PM | The City Council meeting is called to order by Mary Sobieski after returning from a closed session with no announcements (00:04:23). The meeting begins with the Pledge of Allegiance. | No Motion | 0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral |
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00:04:51 | 1.A): Conduct a Formal Tally of Received Ballots Associated with the Potential Formation of the Downtown Sausalito Property Business Improvement District and Consider the Adoption of a Resolution of Formation to Establish the Proposed District if the Weight | The meeting was opened to conduct a formal tally of ballots for the potential formation of the Downtown Sausalito Property Business Improvement District (PBID). Brandon Phipps provided a history of the project, noting that 34 ballots had been received as of 4:51 PM that day (00:07:46). The council would open the item to public comment, then tally the ballots. If a majority protest does not exist, the council could discuss and adopt a resolution of formation. Next steps include recording the district and assisting in the first meeting of the interim board (00:09:54). Councilmember Kelman requested clarification on the city's contribution percentages, which Phipps detailed, explaining the city's share and how it relates to parks and other properties (00:11:21). Phipps clarified that PBID funds would augment existing city services (00:14:58). Councilmember Blaustein and Phipps discussed revenue projections (00:19:13), with Director Hess clarifying that the city is projected to have a net positive revenue of $156,000 over five years (00:21:03). Councilmember Hoffman raised concerns about the impact of potential parking reductions on revenue projections (00:24:47). Councilmembers Kelman and Phipps discussed the PBID steering committee and the process for electing interim officers and council member participation (00:25:54). Discussions continued regarding the city's financial contributions (00:11:53) and potential impacts of revenue due to parking (00:28:31). The public comment period is announced (00:31:50). | Motion to adopt the resolution that is in the staff report for the formation of the downtown Sausalito property business improvement district that is a resolution of intent number three four dash two zero two four (01:36:22). | 24 Total: 15 In Favor 5 Against 4 Neutral |
00:32:30 Hank Baker was In Favor: Baker, a resident, business owner, and member of EDEC, spoke in favor of the proposal, highlighting it as a shared risk between the business community and the city (00:32:32). He emphasized the need for improvements in downtown Sausalito, such as landscaping, sidewalk cleanliness, and sticker removal, to enhance the visitor experience (00:32:55).
00:33:58 Kieran Culligan was Against: Culligan, a Sausalito resident, criticized a city council member for disseminating misleading information about the PBID's financial projections, calling it a manipulative tactic (00:33:58). He stated that the numbers in the email were incorrect and deserved a retraction. 00:35:55 Don Daglow was In Favor: Daglow, EDAC member and Sausalito resident, supported the PBID, sharing a story to illustrate the importance of a strong business community and noted the cooperative nature of the Sausalito business community and the need to avoid raising property taxes (00:35:55). He emphasized the collaboration between the business community and the city as a defense against raising property taxes. 00:37:58 Sue Fisher King was Against: King, a long-time resident and San Francisco business owner, shared her experience with merchant districts in San Francisco, where businesses organize and fund their initiatives independently of city involvement (00:37:58). She expressed discomfort with the level of city involvement in the proposed PBID, stating a preference for businesses to operate independently. 00:40:04 Sandra Bushmaker was Against: Bushmaker stated she wasn't against business improvement districts but was against this one because of the city's 50% involvement, especially given the city's deficit. She also objected to the maps, suggesting they were gerrymandered to ensure a 50% city share (00:40:04), and expressed concerns about a lack of transparency regarding the steering committee membership. She suggested tabling the matter and requested more details on weighted ballots. 00:42:13 John Flavin was Against: Flavin expressed suspicion of the PBID's structure and potential for cronyism, urging transparency and quarterly reporting to track its performance (00:42:13). He cautioned against repeating past mistakes and emphasized the need for oversight to ensure accountability. 00:43:25 Carolyn Revell was In Favor: As board member of Sausalito Beautiful, Revell expressed strong support for the PBID, emphasizing its potential to provide additional services beyond the city's capacity (00:43:25). She noted the potential for beautification projects, such as enhanced tree maintenance, planters, and artistic enhancements, and she noted endorsement of the PBID from the Sausalito Beautiful Board. 00:44:38 Scott Thornburg was In Favor: Thornburg, Chair of EDAC, supported the PBID as a way to support the Parks and Rec department, since budget line items for advertising and marketing have been eliminated. He emphasized the value of the PBID as a five-year test, noting the checks and balances under state law to ensure reporting and transparency (00:44:38). The Brown Act would also apply. 00:46:41 Charles Melton was In Favor: Melton corrected previous claims about a lack of reporting requirements, stating that the management plan includes strict reporting measures. He underscored the uniqueness of businesses volunteering to be taxed and the opportunity for the city to improve its revenue source by investing in the downtown (00:46:41). He urged immediate action, emphasizing that a delay would be detrimental. 00:49:05 Sharna Brockett was In Favor: Brockett supported the PBID, expressing frustration with the current state of downtown Sausalito and its unrealized potential (00:49:05). She highlighted the success of PBIDs in other cities with struggling downtowns and the potential for increased civic pride, economic development, and revenue generation. Further stated that the city contribution to the PBID is less than one half of a percent of the general fund. 00:51:11 Cass Green was In Favor: Green expressed excitement and hope for the PBID's positive impact, emphasizing its benefits for businesses, residents, and visitors (00:51:11). She thanked the council and the PBID team for their hard work, expressing the need to act today. 00:52:11 Adrian Brinton was In Favor: Brinton voiced support for the PBID and expressed mistrust for claims of cronyism (00:52:11). He emphasized the importance of trusting local businesses and their commitment to improving the community and the trust built within the community through working with businesses. 00:54:03 William McDevitt was In Favor: McDevitt stated they are one of the owners of 30 L Porto and live in Petaluma, and shared the success of the PBID in Petaluma. They pointed to the significant return on investment, improvements in the community, and the filling of storefronts (00:54:03). They argued that a 1% increase in occupancy would yield significant revenue for the city. 00:55:56 Beth Swerke was In Favor: Swerke stated they are a resident and emphasized the support by businesses for the PBID. They expressed disappointment with the current state of downtown Sausalito and envisioned a revitalized town similar to other thriving tourist destinations. They highlighted the financial benefits for the city and saw the PBID as an obvious move (00:55:56). 00:57:12 Steven Woodside was In Favor: Woodside shared the history of lost revenue sources for Sausalito and encouraged council to adopt this, which is one of the very few options left (00:57:12). He provided information from Capitola's business improvement area, noting its small budget and positive impact in revenue. 00:59:21 Alice Merrill was Neutral: Merrill expressed support for successful PBIDs but questioned the city's leading role, suggesting that these initiatives should be driven by businesses independently. (00:59:21). She said it caused discomfort, and the city should focus on fixing the roads. 01:00:56 Jeffrey Chase was Against: Chase discussed the tension between money and boats (businesses vs. the harborage) and criticized the environmental impact of attracting more tourists (01:00:56). He used religious references to express his opposition to the PBID. 01:03:13 Marie Dawkins was Neutral: Dawkins raised concerns about the interim counsel representation, and requested an at-large citizen representative and requested a seat on the proposed committee (01:03:13). 01:06:05 Teresa Ancona was In Favor: Representing Angelino Restaurants, Ancona expressed a desire for improvements in downtown Sausalito, including cleaner sidewalks, better garbage cans, and vibrant landscaping (01:06:05). She emphasized the need for beauty in downtown and supported the PBID as a way to fund those improvements, given the city's apparent inability to provide those services. 01:08:08 Mike Monsef was In Favor: Monsef, being a property manager, noted the financial struggles of downtown businesses, reporting revenue losses of 20-30%. He urged the council to take action to address the downtown's problems and find ways to fill vacant buildings (01:08:08). 01:09:39 Babette McDougall was Neutral: McDougall shared agreement with both sides of the debate but questioned the city's 50% participation, citing research indicating its rarity. She further urged caution given a lack of city's risk assessment models (01:09:39) . She suggested a more balanced model that the city have 0-3% participation instead. 01:11:47 Lloyd Silverstein was In Favor: Silverstein, a property owner and business owner in San Francisco, shared historical context, mentioning his grandfather's involvement in a Chamber of Commerce decision (01:11:47). He related his experience founding a merchant association in Hayes Valley and observing the positive impact of a business improvement district. He encouraged the council to vote in favor of the PBID. 01:13:53 Morgan Pierce was In Favor: Speaking as president of Sausalito Beautiful, Pierce voiced support for the PBID as a unique public-private partnership that enables city and business owner collaboration. She clarified that the organization would benefit by using their knowledge and resources to further improve public spaces, even though Sausalito Beautiful benefits immaterially from PBID (01:13:53). 01:15:15 Vicki Nichols was Neutral: Nichols, a long-time resident, recognized that revitalizing the downtown was not new and voiced support for this moving forward and its ability to be amended if needed. She added that in addition to revitalizing the downtown with additional maintenance, the key also hinges upon what type of tenant mix will come to downtown to attract city residents as well as tourism (01:15:15). |
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02:14:36 | 2: SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS/MAYOR'S ANNOUNCEMENTS | Mayor Sobieski announced a community-wide event on September 7th from 10 a.m. to 12 p.m. at the Spinnaker, hosted by the city's sustainability director, to explore projected flooding and sea level rise impacts across the community. The event will include discussions with adaptation professionals and local leaders, activities for kids, and a raffle for prizes. Light refreshments will be provided. An online community survey will be available after the event for those who cannot attend in person. More information can be found at sausalito.gov/shorelineplan. (02:14:51) Flyers with event details are available at the back of the room. (02:15:39) | No Motion | 0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral |
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02:15:55 | 4: CONSENT CALENDAR | The council reviewed the consent calendar, which included items ranging from appointments to the Library Board of Trustees and Marine Commission on Aging, to resolutions regarding legislative letters, responses to grand jury reports on cyber preparations and sea level rise, surplus computer equipment, an encroachment agreement for a parklet, a contract for sewer improvements, projects funded by the Road Repair and Accountability Act, a public official reimbursement policy, and lease agreements with the Sausalito Yacht Harbor and New Village School, and AT&T. City Attorney advised to remove items 4L and 4M, which will be addressed later with an intent to continue and public comment opportunity. Vice Mayor Cox requested items 4H and 4K be removed for further discussion and recused herself from item 4M (02:19:30). Councilmember Blaustein recused herself from item 4I (02:19:40) due to being a renter near the location but wanted item 4F (e-bikes grand jury report) noted for future discussion and potential refinement of the response (02:19:40). Items 4H, 4K, 4L, and 4M were moved to the business agenda for later discussion. | Motion to approve the consent calendar, excluding items 4H, 4K, 4L, 4M, and 4I, was made by Vice Mayor Cox and seconded. (02:24:44) Motion to approve item 4I was made by Vice Mayor Cox and seconded by Mayor Sobieski. (02:25:14) | 2 Total: 1 In Favor 1 Against 0 Neutral |
02:21:21 Ed Schultz was In Favor: Expressed excitement about the appointment of Ed Schultz as his successor on the Commission on Aging, highlighting his experience and dedication to older adults. He thanked the council for the opportunity to represent them on the commission for 15 years (02:22:03).
02:22:55 Babette McDougall was Against: Criticized the practice of loading the consent calendar with items previously pulled, arguing it disregards citizen input and the democratic process (02:23:38). She urged the council to reconsider this approach. |
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02:25:58 | 5.A: Adopt a Resolution authorizing the City Manager to Award Construction Contract for the Ferry Landside Improvement Project to Bauman Landscaping Inc., in an amount of $1,416,000, authorize a construction contingency for the Project in the amount of $25 | The council is considering a resolution to award a construction contract to Bauman Landscaping Inc. for the Ferry Landside Improvement Project. The project aims to enhance the shoreline ferry plaza, improve bicycle access, and increase the area for ferry passenger staging. The project is funded by a $2.4 million grant from the Federal Transit Agency and the district, with a local match of about $100,000. The plan includes expanding the plaza hardscape, installing asphalt paving, improving bicycle parking, and installing accessible ramps and bollards. The engineer's estimate for the base bid was $1.26 million, while Bauman Landscaping's bid is $1,416,000. The bid documents also included additional alternatives. A BCDC permit has been received for the project. The council discussed the omission of a form from Bauman Landscaping's bid, but determined that it was a minor irregularity and could be waived. Sausalito Police provided input about the current design which has the bike return on Humboldt Street. (02:33:55) Because this area is currently used by tour bus staging, drop-off, and pick-up. The design team is considering an alternative for the bike return staging area in lot one, using removable bollards to create a bike parking area that can accommodate over 200 bikes (02:37:40). This new design would require the removal of one parking space (02:43:14). | Motion to adopt a resolution authorizing the City Manager to: 1) Approve the plans and specifications for the ferry land side improvement project, 2) Waive any irregularities in the bid and authorize the city manager to execute the construction contract with Bauman Landscaping Incorporated for $1,416,000, 3) Authorize the city manager to execute change orders for a contingency amount of up to $258,511, and 4) Direct the city manager to execute a change order for the design specification aligning with that presented by staff today for bicycle parking on the east side of lot one, delegating the authority to approve the plans and specifications to the city manager. (03:58:35) | 28 Total: 25 In Favor 0 Against 3 Neutral |
03:12:40 Bonnie McGregor was In Favor: Supports moving forward with the project, stating that further delays will not necessarily lead to 100% agreement. She suggests handling remaining issues with change orders and urges approval of the bid to get the project done before the rain starts.
03:13:52 Gail Schell was In Favor: Expresses appreciation for the council's attention to the project and is excited that the plan is within budget and allows for changes. She urges the council to adopt the resolution in the staff report. 03:14:49 Hank Baker was In Favor: Highlights the importance of first impressions for visitors and emphasizes that the current state of the ferry landing area needs improvement. He supports the project as a chance to change the dynamic and improve the touch points for visitors. 03:16:12 Bjarne Hansen was In Favor: Supports improving the ferry landing area, particularly to benefit business owners and increase tax revenue. He's generally in support of improving the ferry landing. 03:16:55 Scott Thornburg was In Favor: Lists alternative ways to get to downtown Sausalito without relying on parking and argues against prioritizing parking over beautification and community benefits. He supports maximizing parking in the off-season but believes the project will allow us to do so. 03:18:23 Kieran Culligan was In Favor: Notes that there were 62 open spaces in Lot One during a peak time and argues that the city has plenty of parking capacity, even with the spaces that will be displaced by bicycle parking. He supports the project as a win-win for residents, visitors, businesses, and the environment. 03:20:20 Charles Melton was In Favor: Thanks Councilmember Kelman for raising the issue of trees and supports the project because it prioritizes his safety as a pedestrian. He argues that the project is fiscally responsible because it uses federal tax dollars for Sausalito's benefit. 03:22:25 Sharna Brockett was In Favor: Emphasizes the time sensitivity of the funding and urges the council to proceed with haste. She supports the deal with the Yacht Harbor and suggests that the location of the bike racks is a detail that can be adjusted as needed. Urges that Tracy Way should be maintained because it is beautiful. 03:24:32 Cass Green was In Favor: Supports the plan and believes it will be an incredible improvement for Sausalito. They are excited about the potential for the Yacht Harbor deal and believe the project will allow them to promote the beauty of Sausalito to the world. 03:25:29 Adrian Brinton was In Favor: Acknowledges that putting the bike queue in Parking Lot One solves one important set of problems but acknowledges it comes at the cost of some parking spaces. Supports additional study and opportunities to increase parking capacity. 03:27:36 Willie McDevitt was In Favor: Asks the council to approve a plan that they don't like, but acknowledges that it is within budget and represents a good compromise. He argues that not approving the plan means getting nothing, while approving it means everyone gets a little something. 03:28:12 Mary Griffin was In Favor: Notes that it is rare for a project to be fully funded and come in under budget. She urges the council not to waste the opportunity and suggests that the project should be completed before the LA Olympics. 03:28:57 Cheryl Pop was In Favor: Urges the council to approve the construction bid, noting that the project is a gift from the federal government and has a built-in contingency. She argues that delaying the project risks losing the funding and emphasizes the importance of installation of trees in the Plaza. 03:31:01 Tadis Antonovicis was In Favor: Urges approval of the bid, including Alternatives 2 and 3, because it will make downtown more beautiful and encourage people to spend time and money there. Argues that the city should focus on filling existing parking spots rather than worrying about losing a few spots. 03:32:30 Beth Swerke was In Favor: States that the community is desperate for positive change and has been inspired by the project. She notes that she feels energized. Expresses frustration with the slow pace of the process and urges the council to approve the bid before it's too late. 03:34:12 Don Daglow was In Favor: Believes that the area that welcomes people to town looks old and jerry-rigged, and this plan addresses that. He suggests this improves political coordination and represents an opportunity to fix the area. 03:35:28 Mike Monsava was In Favor: This has been going on since the late 1950s and this has been a dream of Mike's for many years. This is part of his dream. 03:37:00 Fred Moore was In Favor: Endorses the comments of previous speakers and emphasizes the importance of trees in the project. They walk the area daily and wants to separate bikes from people and increase trees. 03:37:45 Unknown was In Favor: Urges the council to approve the bid contract, emphasizing the importance of not becoming a victim of analysis paralysis. Emphasizes the importance of improving visitor experiences in the downtown. 03:39:47 Michael Rex was In Favor: Notes that the new bike parking plan addresses concerns from Maddens, the police, and the Yacht Club. Confident about creating more parking on Humboldt Street and clarifies Alternate 1 which should result in credit. 03:41:57 Steven Woodside was In Favor: Expresses gratitude for the community's support and recognizes the hard work of Michael Rex and Bill Hines. Thanks Vice Mayor Cox and commends Mayor Sobieski for her work. 03:43:23 Amy Svenberg was In Favor: States that the Chamber of Commerce and Poggio and Copita strongly support the project and believe it needs to happen this year. She emphasizes the importance of considering the safety of cyclists and pedestrians. 03:44:55 Jeffrey Chase was In Favor: Prefers boats, bicycles, and buses to cars, arguing for a parking lot moratorium. Considers those using 2000 pound cars are making a mistake. He is against new facilities in Ross. 03:46:55 Babette McDougall was Neutral: Is supportive of the project but seeks clarification on the status of Tracy Way, noting that its ultimate disposition has to be settled by a public vote. She asks that public note be taken of public vote requirement. 03:48:47 Sandra Bushmaker was Neutral: Expresses appreciation for the effort and public input but is concerned about the lack of discussion and documentation regarding safety studies and risk management. She urges the council to address safety concerns and ensure it front burner. 03:50:16 Vicki Nichols was Neutral: Expresses concern that some aspects of the plan are missing and that it is more of a concept than a concrete design. She wants to know where the fountain will be, asks for it to be acknowledged for the record, and wants to include the Preservation Committee. 03:52:11 Sam Rubin was In Favor: Adds their voice in support of the project, emphasizing the importance of transforming the entrance to Sausalito into a welcoming space. By improving a lot, there will be more revenue from visitors. 03:57:40 Peter Van Meter was In Favor: Expresses excitement for the project after being a 22 year advocate for it, states that you will cement your legacy as having made important decision |
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04:22:32 | 4.H: Adopt a Resolution Approving an Encroachment Agreement for the location of 19-seat parklet, and new signage, balcony, wall lights, and awnings that would project into the public right-of-way, and authorization to serve alcoholic beverages in the publi | This agenda item concerns a resolution to approve an encroachment agreement for a 19-seat parklet, along with signage, balcony, wall lights, and awnings, projecting into the public right-of-way, including authorization for serving alcohol at 813-1517 Bridgeway. Vice Mayor Cox pulled the item due to concerns about tables blocking the pedestrian walkway and the potential impact of serving alcohol in a crowded area (04:23:40). She suggested relocating the tables and chairs to the approved parklet area and removing those obstructing the pedestrian walkway (04:24:13). Councilmember Blaustein expressed that the item has been discussed at the Planning Commission multiple times, and deserves a thorough review rather than a rushed decision (04:25:31). Vice Mayor Cox agreed, noting she needed to research the logistical ramifications (04:26:09). It was decided to continue the item to the September 3rd meeting (04:26:29). | Motion to continue the item to September 3rd was made and seconded. The motion passed. (04:31:25) | 4 Total: 2 In Favor 0 Against 2 Neutral |
04:27:08 Michael Rex was In Favor: Speaking as the representative of the owner, Michael Rex clarified that the existing tables and chairs (three tables, six chairs) were approved by the city years ago, including the serving of beer and alcohol. The Planning Commission allowed them to remain because they replaced a handicap ramp. He stated that the parklet is additive and does not change the existing sidewalk width. He urged the council to approve the encroachment agreement, as they need to begin construction by October 1, emphasizing that the request does not add anything new or change the existing approval for the tables and chairs.
04:28:39 Jeffrey Chase was Neutral: Jeffrey Chase initially spoke about the fenced area of South Dunphy Park but was directed to focus on the agenda item or reserve his comments for the open comment period. 04:29:35 Babette McDougall was In Favor: Babette McDougall expressed no vested interest but highlighted Lappert's long-standing positive reputation in Sausalito. She emphasized that the business, started by the original Mr. Lappert and continued by his son Michael, is a wonderful corporate citizen. She believes Michael Lappert can be trusted to do the right thing for the city's image, but supports further scrutiny if deemed necessary, given the newness of many council members. 04:30:51 Sandra Bushmaker was Neutral: Sandra Bushmaker questioned whether the applicant would pay the city for using the street and whether the loss of revenue from parking spaces in front of the business has been addressed. She admitted that she did not read the attachments to the agenda item. |
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04:32:10 | 4.K: Adopt Public Official Reimbursement Policy Required by Government Code § 53232.2 | This agenda item concerns the adoption of a public official reimbursement policy as required by government code. Vice Mayor Cox requested to pull the item due to concerns about the policy being retroactive (04:32:25). The council agreed to continue the item to the September 3, 2024 meeting to allow for further discussion (04:32:40). | Motion by Vice Mayor Cox to continue the item to the September 3, 2024 meeting, seconded by Councilmember Blaustein (04:32:58). | 0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral |
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04:33:20 | 4.L: Authorize City Manager to Execute Side Letter / License Agreement with Sausalito Yacht Harbor for Use of 47 Parking Spaces in Bay Street Parking Lot for Public Parking | The item concerns authorizing the City Manager to execute a side letter and license agreement with Sausalito Yacht Harbor for the use of 47 parking spaces in the Bay Street parking lot for public parking. Vice Mayor Cox pulled the item to facilitate further negotiation of the agreement (04:33:45). Public commenters generally supported the agreement, viewing it as a beneficial public-private partnership that would mitigate parking issues related to changes at the ferry landing. Concerns were raised about the one-year term and potential revenue loss if either party withdraws from the agreement (04:37:36). | Motion to continue the consideration of this item to September 3, 2024, or such date as staff is ready to return with the data needed to fully evaluate options (04:38:20). | 5 Total: 4 In Favor 0 Against 1 Neutral |
04:33:56 Sharna Brockett was In Favor: Fully supports the agreement with Yacht Harbor and thanks the Maddens for creating a public-private partnership. It adds 47 spots and will create a net increase in parking, especially with the removal of parking spots from lot one. Urges for improvement and quick approval of the deal.
04:34:40 Adrian Brinton was In Favor: Strongly supports the deal, stating it's good for the city, downtown, and businesses. Encourages approval, highlighting its importance in mitigating parking issues due to ferry landing changes and potential gains on Humboldt. 04:35:23 Scott Thornburg was In Favor: Urges for the approval of the agreement, highlighting it as a key element for enhancing the downtown area through a public-private partnership. He addresses concerns about the agreement's term length, stating it allows for testing and data collection to inform future adjustments. Suggests that the community's willingness to engage now should be embraced. 04:36:35 Peter Van Meter was In Favor: Emphasizes that the agreement is essential and that it adds a net increase of approximately five spaces after bike parking adjustments. Notes that the agreement has been under discussion for years and is now ready for adoption, urging its immediate approval. 04:37:36 Sandra Bushmaker was Neutral: Highlights the potential revenue loss from 47 spaces if either party withdraws from the one-year agreement, adding this to the loss of spaces in parking lot one and stresses the importance of understanding the implications. |
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04:38:50 | 4.M: Authorize City Manager to Execute Amended and Restated Lease Agreement with New Village School for Lease of MLK Property (100 Ebbtide) | The item concerns the authorization for the City Manager to execute an amended and restated lease agreement with New Village School for the MLK property at 100 Ebbtide. Vice Mayor Cox recused herself from the discussion. Babette McDougall raised concerns during public comment about the lack of a comprehensive policy for negotiating the city's real estate portfolio, suggesting the current approach leads to undervaluing city assets. She urged the council to finalize the policy before proceeding with individual real estate negotiations. Councilmember Kelman motioned to continue the item to a date uncertain (04:41:08), which was seconded by Mayor Sobieski (04:41:11). The motion to continue was approved unanimously. | Councilmember Kelman motioned to continue the item to a date uncertain (04:41:08), seconded by Mayor Sobieski (04:41:11), and the motion passed unanimously. | 1 Total: 0 In Favor 1 Against 0 Neutral |
04:41:35 | 6.A: Public Comments | This agenda item is for public comment on items not on the agenda. Several members of the public spoke. Jeffrey Chase spoke about moving his boat to Sausalito and made accusations regarding a city employee and the former chief of police's pension. He also suggested his civil rights might be obstructed if he was removed from Sausalito, as it would affect his ability to run for City Council. (04:43:22) Babette McDougall apologized for mispronouncing Stephen Woodside's name and encouraged the council to invite citizens back to the council chambers. (04:44:53) Sandra Bushmaker inquired about the parking committee, asking who was appointed and what the scope of the committee is (04:46:34). Alice Merrill discussed parking issues in the city, focusing on the impact on residents due to employees of local businesses parking in residential areas and the cost of daily parking passes for workers. (04:47:01) | No Motion | 4 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 4 Neutral |
04:41:58 Jeffrey Chase was Neutral: Chase discussed moving his boat to Sausalito, alleged a city employee was violating boat limits, accused the former police chief of receiving two pensions, and suggested a political movement was influencing the upcoming election. He also claimed his civil rights might be obstructed if he was removed from Sausalito, which would affect his ability to run for City Council.
04:44:23 Babette McDougall was Neutral: McDougall apologized for mispronouncing Stephen Woodside's name at the last meeting and urged the council to invite citizens back to the council chambers for meetings. She emphasized the importance of open debate and democratic processes. 04:46:12 Sandra Bushmaker was Neutral: Bushmaker inquired about the parking committee, requesting information on who was appointed to the committee and the scope of its activities, as she had not seen any information about it. 04:46:59 Alice Merrill was Neutral: Merrill raised concerns about parking issues, particularly the impact on residents due to employees of local businesses parking in residential areas. She suggested a need to address parking solutions for workers, highlighting the financial burden of daily parking passes for those earning lower wages. |
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04:48:22 | 7: COUNCILMEMBER COMMITTEE REPORTS | Councilmember committee reports were provided by Mayor Sobieski, Vice Mayor Cox, Councilmember Blaustein, and Councilmember Kelman. Mayor Sobieski discussed the parking committee, its members, and its charge to review the Dixon study and find quick solutions to improve parking, especially addressing the employee parking issues at Driver's Market. She clarified her role as a liaison to provide information from the city (04:48:24.03). Vice Mayor Cox reported on the insurance committee, which is evolving into a risk management committee (04:50:50.13). She also mentioned the city's decision to hire a risk manager recommended by PRISM (04:51:20.96). Councilmember Blaustein noted attending the Transportation Authority of Marin's meeting, highlighting the countywide transportation plan (04:51:44.37), and a celebration of the sea lion. Councilmember Kelman attended the Marine Clean Energy Board meeting and is a vice president with the North Bay Division of Cal Cities. He announced an upcoming event, the Economic Risk of Climate Change for California Communities, to be held in Sausalito on October 15th (04:52:19.23). | No Motion | 0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral |
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04:53:34 | 8A: City Manager Information for Council | City Manager Cox provided an update on the city's strategic planning session from 2023, highlighting foundational priorities such as finance, insurance (04:53:45), and infrastructure. She emphasized the poor rating of the city's roads (04:53:51) and the importance of improving infrastructure, including roads, sidewalks, and buildings. To aid in this effort, she enlisted a group of local thinkers, including Sam Chase, Jose Sanchez, Ray Withey, and Ron Albert, to help develop ideas for infrastructure improvements (04:55:18). | No Motion | 0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral |
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04:55:28 | 8B: Future Agenda Items | The council discussed potential future agenda items. Councilmember Blaustein suggested a conversation or town hall on the BAFA bond, noting Mill Valley is hosting a town hall on it (04:55:32). Councilmember Kelman requested a return to strategic elements discussed earlier, specifically the hillside ordinance, geologic hazard report, and road improvements (04:55:58). She wants to see infrastructure and resilience prioritized. The City Manager suggested EDAC be given a new direction, possibly focusing on the partnership and other areas of town, now that there is a downtown business improvement district (04:56:58). Vice Mayor Cox requested inviting the Sausalito Marin City School District to present to the council (04:57:33). Councilmember Hoffman reiterated the importance of focusing on city priorities and being disciplined about agenda items, to efficiently use staff time (04:57:53). Councilmember Kelman requested a per-department accounting and budgeting during the budget discussions (04:59:35), and wanted to return to approving the agenda together at the start of meetings. | No Motion | 1 Total: 1 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral |
05:01:38 | 9: ADJOURNMENT | The meeting is adjourned with the next scheduled meeting on September 3rd. Councilmember Sobieski thanks her colleagues for their hard work in the first half of the year and acknowledges the city staff for managing city operations well, especially during the insurance crisis (05:01:48). She expresses appreciation on behalf of the entire city council and wishes everyone a great summer recess (05:01:48). | No Motion | 0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral |
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City Council Meeting Transcript
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00:00:00.03 | Mary Sobieski | We're about to call the media order and have you say your various things. Okay. |
00:00:04.57 | John Flavin | Okay. |
00:00:05.09 | Mary Sobieski | So we're just calling the meeting to order. Would you like to know too early? |
00:00:08.84 | John Flavin | Thank you. |
00:00:09.77 | Mary Sobieski | Okay. |
00:00:11.84 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. |
00:00:12.84 | Vice Mayor Cox | Well, that's a good problem to have. |
00:00:15.19 | Mary Sobieski | It is. Hi. |
00:00:17.78 | Mary Sobieski | All the clocks in the chambers are incorrect. |
00:00:20.92 | Vice Mayor Cox | And in the conference room, yeah. |
00:00:23.69 | Vice Mayor Cox | Well, |
00:00:23.77 | Mary Sobieski | Your watch is mine. |
00:00:25.34 | Vice Mayor Cox | There's been a lot of power outages |
00:00:26.96 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
00:00:27.27 | Vice Mayor Cox | Thank you. |
00:00:27.37 | Mary Sobieski | Fair enough. |
00:00:28.38 | Mary Sobieski | All right. Now we'll call the meeting order, please. Mr. City Clerk, would you call the roll? |
00:00:31.77 | City Clerk | Okay, Council Member Blasin. |
00:00:36.30 | City Clerk | here. |
00:00:36.46 | City Clerk | I'm sorry. |
00:00:36.56 | Mary Griffin | Thank you. |
00:00:37.24 | City Clerk | Council member Hoffman. |
00:00:39.64 | City Clerk | Here. |
00:00:39.69 | Mary Griffin | Here. |
00:00:40.28 | City Clerk | Councilmember Kelman. Here. Vice Mayor Cox. |
00:00:41.49 | Mary Sobieski | Here. |
00:00:42.99 | Mary Sobieski | you |
00:00:43.06 | City Clerk | you |
00:00:43.25 | Mary Sobieski | Here. |
00:00:43.38 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
00:00:43.40 | Vice Mayor Cox | Here. |
00:00:44.09 | Mary Sobieski | And Mary Sobieski. Here. We'll have to approve the participation remotely by our colleague, Vice Mayor Cox. |
00:00:50.71 | Vice Mayor Cox | Thank you. As I reported at our last meeting, I underwent major surgery two weeks ago. I am not yet allowed to drive. I am still recovering and so I appreciate the accommodation to attend this meeting from my home. |
00:01:07.36 | Mary Sobieski | Okay, let's have a vote on approving the vice mayor's participation. I move that we allow her to participate remotely under that exemption. Do you have a second? |
00:01:15.75 | Councilmember Hoffman | Second. |
00:01:17.35 | Mary Sobieski | Okay, it's moved and seconded. We have to do a roll call vote on that matter. So city clerk. |
00:01:22.67 | City Clerk | Chancellor Member Blossom. |
00:01:23.88 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
00:01:23.93 | Councilmember Blaustein | Yes. |
00:01:24.29 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
00:01:24.76 | City Clerk | Council member Hoffman? Yes. Council member Kuhlman? |
00:01:26.21 | Councilmember Blaustein | Yes. |
00:01:27.70 | Councilmember Blaustein | Yes. |
00:01:27.95 | City Clerk | you |
00:01:28.20 | City Clerk | Vice Mayor Cox. |
00:01:29.15 | Councilmember Blaustein | Thank you. |
00:01:29.18 | City Clerk | Yes. |
00:01:29.92 | City Clerk | Amir Sobieski. Yes. |
00:01:31.04 | Mary Sobieski | you |
00:01:31.44 | Mary Sobieski | All right, moving on, we're going to attend to the following items in closed session and then take public comment and then adjourn to a closed session. The items in closed session will be a conference with real property negotiator. |
00:01:42.92 | Mary Sobieski | The property in question is the MLK school site. The second issue is conference with real property negotiation. The negotiating party is the Sausalito Yacht Harbor. And the third is conference with legal counsel, existing litigation, Paulson versus the city of Sausalito. Vice Mayor, did you have a comment about that? |
00:02:00.86 | Vice Mayor Cox | Yes, thank you, Mayor. I will be recusing myself from the first item |
00:02:06.07 | Vice Mayor Cox | Um, |
00:02:07.27 | Vice Mayor Cox | A conference with real property negotiator concerning the 100 ebbtide and 610 Coloma street site due to the proximity of my home to that site. |
00:02:18.00 | Mary Sobieski | Okay. Thank you, Vice Mayor. We will now take public comment on the closed session items. |
00:02:24.82 | City Clerk | Members of the public who might be on Zoom or on the Internet, you can use the raise hand function. We don't have anybody in the house. And at this moment, there are no public comments. |
00:02:35.63 | Mary Sobieski | Okay, we'll close public comment. We'll adjourn to closed session, and we will return at 6 p.m. |
00:02:39.91 | Sergio | and I'm not sure. |
00:02:39.97 | Vice Mayor Cox | Thank you. |
00:02:40.02 | Sergio | And... |
00:02:40.88 | Sergio | as part of |
00:02:42.10 | Vice Mayor Cox | like the movie I am home alone |
00:02:46.96 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you, city attorney. |
00:02:47.99 | Vice Mayor Cox | Okay. |
00:02:49.90 | Mary Sobieski | Yeah, we'll move it to the second. |
00:02:50.15 | Vice Mayor Cox | And then city attorney, will you text me when I can join the closed session after the... |
00:02:50.94 | Unknown | Thank you. |
00:04:23.67 | Mary Sobieski | Good evening, everyone. Welcome to the July 30th City Council meeting. We're going to call this meeting to order. We've returned from closed session. There are no closed session announcements. We'll begin with the Pledge of Allegiance. Please stand. |
00:04:37.44 | Mary Sobieski | but please, we comply on the United States of America |
00:04:39.70 | Unknown | United States of America. |
00:04:41.42 | Mary Sobieski | do the group |
00:04:43.97 | Unknown | Thank you. |
00:04:44.04 | Mary Sobieski | when undergone indivisible liberty to judge for all. |
00:04:44.31 | Unknown | Well, |
00:04:51.87 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. We're now opening a public hearing, which is to conduct a formal tally of received ballots associated with the potential formation of the downtown Sausalito Property Business Improvement District and consider adoption of a resolution of formation to establish the proposed district if the weighted return ballots support the formation of the district. |
00:05:12.57 | Mary Sobieski | Director Brandon Phipps. |
00:05:14.12 | Councilmember Kelman | I'm sorry, Mr. Mayor, before we get started, I have a quick question for the city attorney. |
00:05:18.50 | Councilmember Kelman | Um, |
00:05:19.46 | Councilmember Kelman | My whole experience on this council has been that we would always do a motion to adopt the agenda. And I noticed we've stopped doing that. I refer to the Robert Spurs of Border and it seems that we |
00:05:30.06 | Councilmember Kelman | We have to do that, but we've no longer been doing it. So city attorney, |
00:05:33.70 | Councilmember Kelman | Is that a misstep on our part? |
00:05:36.06 | Sergio | So there is no requirement in the Brown Act that you have to formally adopt the agenda. You just have to not talk about items that are not listed on the agenda. The city has not adopted Roberts' Rules of Order. The city has, in terms of its procedural rules, adopted Rosenberg's Rules of Order. So you still have the right to move items around on the agenda if you need to, and you can make that request at any time, including when the agenda item is called. |
00:06:03.50 | Sergio | but there's no formal requirement with the agenda. |
00:06:06.45 | Councilmember Kelman | Okay, thank you. Just curiosity, because when I was mayor, we did that and the mayor after me and mayor before me so just curious about that. So my perhaps at the end, we can talk about doing that again. |
00:06:17.74 | Mary Sobieski | Director Phipps. |
00:06:19.57 | Phipps | Good evening, Mayor. |
00:06:21.08 | Phipps | Vice Mayor, Council Members, members of the public and staff, nice to see you all again. And as always, pleased to be here this evening, today to introduce item 1A regarding the tallying of received ballots as described by Mayor. |
00:06:33.61 | Phipps | and council's potential consideration of a resolution of formation to establish the proposed district based on weighted returned ballots. First, I'd like to touch on the history that we've gone through on this project, which extends back to February of last year, approximately a year and a half ago, when the city council authorized the release of an RFP for consulting services associated with the potential formation of a Sausalito Property Business Improvement District, or PBID. |
00:07:00.83 | Phipps | we have come a long way since then. Interviewing and selecting a firm, conducting an initial district investigation, creating and endorsing a proposed district boundary and budget, and most recently on June 4, adopting a resolution of intent to establish the proposed downtown Sausalito PBID and initiate the balloting process. Thank you, council, for your continued support throughout this process. That brings us to the item before Council this evening, the conducting of a formal tally of perceived ballots associated with the formation of the district and the consideration of the adoption of a resolution of formation. |
00:07:37.01 | Phipps | Going back in time. |
00:07:38.36 | Phipps | a bit again, but more recent past. Since the aforementioned June 4 meeting occurred, where a resolution of intent was adopted by counsel, |
00:07:46.34 | Phipps | CDD staff carried out and implemented a balloting process for the potential formation of the district. As a part of this process, city staff distributed a ballot package by mail to all property owners located within the proposed PBID boundaries. These ballots were sent out on June 13th of this year. The ballot packets included the district's management district plan, a ballot form individualized for each property owner, a cover letter, an instruction sheet. included the district's management district plan, a ballot form individualized for each property owner, a cover letter, an instruction sheet, a notice of assessment form, as well as a prepaid return envelope. Staff have received and filed returned ballots since they were initially distributed. And as of 4.51 this afternoon, |
00:08:29.91 | Phipps | 34 ballots have been received and have remained sealed in City Hall as required under Government Code Section 537-53. |
00:08:40.67 | Phipps | With that in mind... |
00:08:42.36 | Phipps | I'll briefly touch on the summary of the meeting format this evening to ensure we're all on the same page. And city attorney, please feel free to jump in to clarify any items as you see fit. |
00:08:52.49 | Phipps | After this brief presentation to Council and questions from Council members, |
00:08:57.43 | Phipps | City Council will open this item to public comment and members of the public will provide public comment as they see fit. |
00:09:03.09 | Phipps | Following the public comment period, City Council will close the public hearing and staff will tally received ballots in real time in the City Council chambers. Following the tallying of ballots, the final ballot results will be reported. |
00:09:17.60 | Phipps | And if no majority protest exists, or in other words, if the weighted returned ballots support the formation of the district, City Council will have the opportunity to engage in a discussion and deliberation in connection with the consideration of the adoption of a resolution of formation to establish the proposed PBID. |
00:09:38.47 | Phipps | Conversely, if the weighted return to ballots do not support the formation of the district, council will not have the opportunity to adopt a resolution of formation, and the proposed district may not be formed. Regarding next steps, |
00:09:54.86 | Phipps | If the City Council does adopt the draft resolution of formation to establish the proposed district, staff will work to do a number of things, including recording the notice and map of the district and its establishment with the Office of the Marin County Recorder, which will constitute the levy of assessments of real property in the proposed district. Staff will also assist in holding the first meeting of the interim board of directors of the PBID, which will include the PBID steering committee members. And at that meeting, |
00:10:28.30 | Phipps | The interim board members will do a number of things, including the election of the interim officers that will actually make up the interim board. They will set the name of the district management nonprofit corporation. They will file the management corporations and corporation papers with the secretary of state, and they will... |
00:10:49.38 | Phipps | approve, adopt the corporation's bylaws. |
00:10:53.70 | Phipps | The interim board members will then submit the approved bylaws to the IRS and will work to enter into a contract with the city of Sausalito to administer the district, its funds and services on a day to day basis. |
00:11:08.77 | Phipps | That does it for my brief introductory presentation. Thank you. And I am available to answer any questions. |
00:11:16.33 | Mary Sobieski | Questions, please, for Director Pipps. |
00:11:19.28 | Mary Sobieski | Anyone on Councilmember Kelman? |
00:11:21.36 | Councilmember Kelman | Sure. Thank you, Director Phipps. |
00:11:24.67 | Councilmember Kelman | I am looking through the... |
00:11:26.34 | Councilmember Kelman | Management District Plan. |
00:11:28.48 | Councilmember Kelman | Can you just let everybody know where we might find |
00:11:32.66 | Councilmember Kelman | the contribution percentages per participant for the bid? |
00:11:39.25 | Phipps | Do you mean, thank you for the question, do you mean on an individual parcel by parcel basis? |
00:11:44.90 | Councilmember Kelman | Yes, and just to cut to the chase, I'm looking for the city's contribution in writing. |
00:11:49.98 | Phipps | by assessment amount. |
00:11:53.12 | Phipps | Understood. On the last page of the management district plan, you'll find a full list of all of the parcels within district, as well as their |
00:12:00.86 | Phipps | according or associated assessment values. |
00:12:03.72 | Phipps | if you were to do the math, |
00:12:05.99 | Phipps | you will see a 50-50 split. |
00:12:08.85 | Phipps | between the assessment imposed on the city of Sausalito and those properties, as well as the assessments imposed on all other properties within the district. This is partially supported by what you'll see on page three of the MDP, which is the benefit zone revenue summary, which shows a breakdown of assessment values between benefit zones and |
00:12:30.80 | Phipps | It should be noted that the split between benefit zones is not an exact 50-50 split, |
00:12:36.40 | Phipps | This is due to the fact that City of Sausalito happens to own properties in both of the districts. However, Sausalito owns all of the properties within Benefit Zone 2, so they pay 100% of that assessment, and they only own some of the properties in Benefit Zone 1, so they pay a very small portion of that assessment. If you were to do the difference between the two zones, we see a difference of approximately $25,000. So we can logically assume that city's share of assessments in benefits on one is equal to approximately $12,000. |
00:13:08.03 | Councilmember Kelman | Okay, and then for each of the two zones, what percentage of the city owned property are actually parks? |
00:13:16.50 | Phipps | Do you mean by assessment value or by land value? |
00:13:19.01 | Councilmember Kelman | by land use. |
00:13:20.14 | Phipps | by land use. Ooh, I'm not certain about that. |
00:13:22.84 | Councilmember Kelman | What percentage is actually a retail with a tenant that we... |
00:13:27.80 | Councilmember Kelman | have a commercial use of? |
00:13:29.32 | Phipps | I would say it is all parcels that contain retail uses minus the three parks. |
00:13:34.76 | Councilmember Kelman | Okay, and how what percentage of the overall zone do those three parks comprise? |
00:13:39.85 | Phipps | I haven't conducted that math now. |
00:13:41.78 | Councilmember Kelman | Is there a map that would illustrate that very clearly? |
00:13:44.56 | Phipps | Certainly. |
00:13:45.05 | Councilmember Kelman | And where does that map? |
00:13:45.93 | Phipps | in the management district plan. |
00:13:47.38 | Councilmember Kelman | And is it the green or the white, which I can't quite tell what is what? |
00:13:50.80 | Phipps | The green or the white, I think that you may be referring to a previously drafted district map that showed the petition results summary. |
00:13:58.92 | Councilmember Kelman | I'm on page 13 of the management district. |
00:14:01.98 | Councilmember Kelman | Document management district plan PDF attachment to page 13. |
00:14:05.43 | Phipps | Understood. I think there it's not all spelled out. Each of those questions is not specifically answered at the management district plan, but the management district plan contains all the information to answer those questions. |
00:14:18.38 | Councilmember Kelman | Okay, so in your expert advice directing and informing the public and the council, what would be the best way to have the clearest record of exactly what we are funding and for the benefit of whom and the percentage of the contribution for the city and to what type of property that the city is contributing to? And my question is because we already pay the Department of Public Works to maintain our park areas. And I am curious as to... contributing to. And my question is because we already pay the Department of Public Works to maintain our park areas, and I am curious as to whether or not we are paying twice and a duplication of effort. |
00:14:53.66 | Phipps | Fine question. And thank you for the question. I'll first state that |
00:14:58.02 | Phipps | Any benefits or services provided to the parks or any area within the district funded by district funds are going to be over and above the services that the city already provides. That is kind of gets to the crux of what a special benefit is. So whatever services DPW is currently providing will continue on those parcels, but we will be augmented and improved upon by the special benefits that the management district corporation, management district nonprofit corporation chooses to implement. |
00:15:08.99 | Bill Hines | from |
00:15:09.27 | Bill Hines | that, |
00:15:28.39 | Phipps | Um, |
00:15:29.00 | Councilmember Kelman | But to answer your question... |
00:15:29.39 | Phipps | But to answer your question, I think a little bit more directly, |
00:15:32.19 | Councilmember Kelman | Yes, because I'm quite confused because 56% of the budget is for demand creation. And I'm not sure that our parks require demand creation. |
00:15:38.87 | Phipps | I will note that the council has endorsed the management district plan as well as the engineers report. So I did not anticipate this kind of discussion of management district plan. |
00:15:48.42 | Councilmember Kelman | I thought it would be great for everybody to have be on the same page. I think that's |
00:15:51.88 | Phipps | Yeah, and I think that's excellent. So where I was going is... |
00:15:56.05 | Phipps | Staff is here to answer any questions and we're happy to be as transparent as possible in connection with this process. If that means responding to a specific set of questions provided by council at or after this meeting, |
00:16:10.61 | Phipps | Happy to do that and happy to find those very specific answers in the management district plan document that's been endorsed. |
00:16:16.33 | Councilmember Kelman | Yeah, fair enough. We could make a webinar. |
00:16:17.11 | Phipps | We could make a web page, whatever would help counsel. I'm happy to take direction. |
00:16:21.26 | Councilmember Kelman | Fair enough. My apologies, Director Phipps. I didn't mean to put you on the spot. I just, I know you're well versed. And as I read it, I was missing information. So I should have prepped you first. |
00:16:30.22 | Mary Sobieski | Appreciate that. |
00:16:30.97 | Mary Sobieski | Vice Mayor Cox. |
00:16:35.28 | Vice Mayor Cox | Thank you. I did want to address Councilman |
00:16:39.08 | Vice Mayor Cox | uh, |
00:16:39.96 | Vice Mayor Cox | partially addressed one of Councilmember Kelman's |
00:16:43.43 | Vice Mayor Cox | questions regarding parks so |
00:16:45.80 | Vice Mayor Cox | You know, we used to employ a |
00:16:49.90 | Vice Mayor Cox | full time |
00:16:52.40 | Vice Mayor Cox | Tree. |
00:16:53.70 | Vice Mayor Cox | maintenance person for the parks. And we stopped doing that back |
00:16:59.38 | Vice Mayor Cox | in 2016. |
00:17:01.05 | Vice Mayor Cox | And so |
00:17:02.17 | Vice Mayor Cox | you |
00:17:02.83 | Vice Mayor Cox | What I understand is that we would have the money if we agreed to this |
00:17:07.72 | Vice Mayor Cox | to consider |
00:17:09.00 | Vice Mayor Cox | Again, |
00:17:10.05 | Vice Mayor Cox | having someone retained to assess the health |
00:17:13.91 | Vice Mayor Cox | of our various trees in our parks, something that's sorely needed for viña |
00:17:18.72 | Vice Mayor Cox | Delmar Park. |
00:17:19.92 | Vice Mayor Cox | by way of brief example. |
00:17:21.96 | Vice Mayor Cox | um, |
00:17:22.72 | Vice Mayor Cox | that was just an example of some of the services that our public works |
00:17:27.28 | Vice Mayor Cox | have had to stop performing |
00:17:29.59 | Vice Mayor Cox | due to budgetary constraints |
00:17:31.41 | Vice Mayor Cox | that it's my understanding would be |
00:17:34.52 | Vice Mayor Cox | potentially available to us again, |
00:17:36.71 | Vice Mayor Cox | as a supplemental |
00:17:39.88 | Vice Mayor Cox | um, |
00:17:41.32 | Vice Mayor Cox | service not currently provided were this PBID to be adopted. |
00:17:46.85 | Vice Mayor Cox | um, |
00:17:47.91 | Vice Mayor Cox | I did have a question |
00:17:49.94 | Vice Mayor Cox | for the city attorney, we received a lot of correspondence |
00:17:55.02 | Vice Mayor Cox | saying even if a majority of the businesses vote in favor of the PBID, we should |
00:18:02.24 | Vice Mayor Cox | delay our adoption decision until September. And I wanted to ask you if that's feasible under applicable statute. |
00:18:13.48 | Sergio | I do think that it is. You know, you can vote to continue the public hearing and vote to continue this agenda item to a subsequent date. |
00:18:22.86 | Sergio | Um, again, given the, um, |
00:18:26.02 | Sergio | The fact that you have opened the public hearing and given the fact that you have the ballots to tally, I would encourage you to |
00:18:33.61 | Sergio | Close the public hearing and tally the ballots. That way you close the protest and balloting period. So you have some definitive answers on what your options are with respect to moving forward there. |
00:18:46.08 | Sergio | Um, |
00:18:47.05 | Sergio | But otherwise, I think once you have the results of that, you can vote to continue your deliberation discussion of the item. |
00:18:54.03 | Vice Mayor Cox | I just wanted to have the information. The various letters that we received were form letters, none of which explained why we should postpone the decision. But I just wanted to know whether we had the power to postpone the decision. Thank you. |
00:19:10.54 | Mary Sobieski | Are there other questions from the diocese? Councilmember Blaustein. |
00:19:13.67 | Councilmember Blaustein | Thank you, Mayor Sobieski, and thank you, Director Phipps, for your report. I appreciate it. I know that there have been many presentations on the PMID and many discussions, so I'm happy to see you yet again. So I, and this question might be more for Director Hess, but I'm looking at the revenue projections. Just wanted to reinforce or have a conversation about each of these areas. So Director Hess, if you're on here. |
00:19:37.03 | Councilmember Blaustein | You have a revenue projection through TOT of an increase of about 320,000 |
00:19:43.42 | Councilmember Blaustein | Sales tax revenue increase of around $76,000. |
00:19:46.83 | Councilmember Blaustein | parking around 40,000 so your assessment is that we should see increased revenue through the bid of over $600,000 as a result of this. |
00:19:54.31 | Hess | over it. |
00:19:55.66 | Hess | Over the life of the bid, yes. So over the life, the five-year life of the bid, I am projecting an increase in revenue |
00:20:03.13 | Hess | of about 807,000. |
00:20:05.45 | Hess | and less the bid expense. Let me share my screen just so it's clear what number I'm looking at for the public. One second. |
00:20:14.17 | Hess | All right. |
00:20:14.64 | Councilmember Blaustein | So the 600,000 number is the net revenue less the bid expense. |
00:20:18.96 | Hess | So right here, this is our projected increase. |
00:20:21.60 | Hess | across those three revenue sources. |
00:20:25.02 | Hess | TOT revenues, sales, tax, and parking. |
00:20:27.96 | Hess | The five-year increase in revenue is about $807,000. |
00:20:32.50 | Hess | and then our bid assessment |
00:20:34.78 | Hess | over the five years is projected to be 650,000. |
00:20:38.20 | Hess | So the net of that is 156. |
00:20:41.49 | Hess | net positive to the city. |
00:20:44.29 | Hess | I would stop our discussions there on this line right here, this line, less current expenditures. That line is assuming that we continued on with the CDA contract. |
00:20:54.84 | Hess | as well as the destination Sausalito contract. |
00:20:57.89 | Hess | We have not funded the CDA contract, so I would stop right there as a net positive 156. |
00:21:03.75 | Councilmember Blaustein | So you're saying the net positive after the five years in the bid is an additional $156,000 to the city. Correct. |
00:21:09.42 | Hess | Thank you. |
00:21:09.44 | Councilmember Blaustein | And just for the record, how much are the merchants should we move forward on this paying into the bid? |
00:21:14.40 | Hess | They would pay equally. They would pay about 650,000 as well. |
00:21:19.39 | Councilmember Blaustein | but they're not receiving net revenue as a result, right? |
00:21:22.88 | Hess | Demand creation should increase their revenues. Yeah. |
00:21:24.94 | Councilmember Blaustein | Sure. |
00:21:26.63 | Councilmember Blaustein | Sure, but what we're seeing here is that the merchants are willing to give money to increase the city's revenue through the bid process. |
00:21:33.35 | Hess | Yes, I would agree. |
00:21:34.75 | Councilmember Blaustein | Okay. And overall this according to your projections is a net gain for the city financially. |
00:21:39.61 | Hess | It is a net gain. |
00:21:40.43 | Councilmember Blaustein | Yes. Okay, great. I just wanted to confirm that. Thank you, Director Hess. |
00:21:44.16 | Mary Sobieski | Are there other questions from the dice? |
00:21:47.45 | Mary Sobieski | All right, Director Phipps, where do we go next? |
00:21:50.98 | Mary Sobieski | Councilmember Hoffman. |
00:21:53.63 | Councilmember Hoffman | um |
00:21:54.95 | Councilmember Hoffman | This is for Director Hess. And this was – there's also been some emails about a net revenue increase of $1.2 million to the city. But we talked about this earlier. And your – well, your assumption was that that was just the two bid assessments added together over the five years was $1.2 million. It's not a new – |
00:22:20.39 | Gail Schell | not |
00:22:21.98 | Councilmember Hoffman | We're not getting 1.2 right. |
00:22:23.96 | Hess | Correct, correct. I don't know where the 1.2 is coming from, but that's approximately what the, |
00:22:29.10 | Hess | total bid assessment would be over the five years. |
00:22:31.97 | Unknown | Okay. |
00:22:32.95 | Hess | But then, yeah, like I said, the net benefit to the city is revenue |
00:22:36.90 | Hess | under assessment. So right here. |
00:22:39.68 | Hess | Revenue over under assessment, $156,000. |
00:22:39.72 | Councilmember Hoffman | Revenue over, under assessment. |
00:22:42.62 | Councilmember Hoffman | Sorry, and that's $156,334 that's listed on that line. |
00:22:47.33 | Hess | That is correct. |
00:22:49.37 | Councilmember Hoffman | Okay, thanks. |
00:22:50.26 | Councilmember Hoffman | I won't. |
00:22:50.57 | Councilmember Blaustein | Just follow on on that. Sure. Just when you were making these assessments, Director Hess, they were rather conservative, correct? Can you talk a little bit about your projections? |
00:22:56.91 | Hess | Barry. |
00:22:59.02 | Hess | Yeah, very conservative. So we're estimating a 1% growth. |
00:22:59.04 | Councilmember Blaustein | Yeah. |
00:22:59.29 | Councilmember Blaustein | Very conservative. |
00:23:03.43 | Hess | which is very, very conservative. |
00:23:06.11 | Hess | So what we did is we took the base rates of TOTs |
00:23:08.89 | Hess | in fiscal year 23. |
00:23:11.19 | Hess | We assumed that they held constant for 24. And then FY25, we increased it by 1%. |
00:23:17.16 | Hess | through |
00:23:17.87 | Hess | Fiscal year 29. So we were increasing |
00:23:21.45 | Hess | The PLT revenue 1% each year, which is very, very conservative. |
00:23:26.53 | Hess | yielding 322,000 of additional TOT over that five-year period. |
00:23:31.81 | Hess | Sales tax revenue, we assumed an increase of 1% as well over that same time period. |
00:23:36.96 | Hess | generating 76,000 in additional revenue. |
00:23:40.20 | Hess | And then our parking, I think, is really where we stand to gain the most. |
00:23:44.05 | Hess | Again, we're assuming a 1% increase in revenue over that five-year period, yielding $407,000 from parking. |
00:23:51.15 | Councilmember Blaustein | Then Director Phibbs, I would have another question for you since you were overseeing the bid processes. When you were reviewing case studies of other cities that have initiated a P bid such as this, have they typically seen higher than 1% growth annually? |
00:24:04.18 | Phipps | I would say higher than 1% growth annually is, um, |
00:24:08.97 | Phipps | is something that is very much to be expected and something that can very easily be exceeded. |
00:24:13.59 | Alice Merrill | Okay. |
00:24:13.71 | Phipps | And I will just note from more of a qualitative standpoint, if this district's activities result in the filling of just one vacancy in the city's central downtown district, and that business performs on average around the same, at the same level that other businesses perform in the district, we will vastly exceed our 1% estimate. And if that happens twice or three times, that will compound even more. |
00:24:42.40 | Councilmember Blaustein | Great. Thank you so much. |
00:24:45.27 | Mary Sobieski | if they're in a council member coffin. |
00:24:46.75 | Councilmember Hoffman | I do have. |
00:24:47.92 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. So the parking where you where you're looking at the parking increase in parking. Did you take into account plans to remove parking from downtown that we're going to talk about in about an hour. |
00:24:58.46 | Phipps | No, this financial model does not project changes to parking supply, nor does it take into account increases in the cost of parking. |
00:24:58.48 | Councilmember Hoffman | No. |
00:25:08.54 | Councilmember Hoffman | Okay, thank you. |
00:25:11.04 | Mary Sobieski | So for instance, if there's more demand and prices are higher, that's not part of the model. |
00:25:15.42 | Tadis Antonovicis | No. |
00:25:15.68 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. |
00:25:15.96 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. |
00:25:16.28 | Mary Sobieski | And you have a 1% growth rate, but you think that that's conservative. |
00:25:21.24 | Mary Sobieski | Correct. And even in the most conservative model, it makes money for the city. |
00:25:25.78 | Mary Sobieski | Correct. |
00:25:26.56 | Mary Sobieski | Are there any other questions? |
00:25:29.92 | Councilmember Hoffman | So conversely, with regard to parking, if you lose 35 parking spots out of our highest |
00:25:34.85 | Councilmember Hoffman | you know, out of our highest revenue producing lot, |
00:25:38.26 | Councilmember Hoffman | this number that you projected for parking is not accurate. |
00:25:41.73 | Councilmember Hoffman | And as you said, it's not accurate if that occurs. It's also not accurate if we raise the parking fees to cover the loss. |
00:25:49.07 | Mary Sobieski | Correct. |
00:25:49.09 | Councilmember Hoffman | correct. |
00:25:49.43 | Councilmember Hoffman | Okay. |
00:25:49.71 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. |
00:25:50.57 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. Yes, Councilmember Kalman. |
00:25:54.91 | Councilmember Kelman | Apologies again for before. I have some governance questions. |
00:25:58.22 | Councilmember Kelman | Okay, so let me know if this is... |
00:26:02.76 | Councilmember Kelman | ready for conversation. So you said that the next step is that there is a PBIS steering committee |
00:26:09.37 | Councilmember Kelman | right and then is that steering committee anybody who wants to go anybody that attended the prior meetings |
00:26:15.04 | Phipps | So this would be, we'll call it the... |
00:26:17.98 | Phipps | first meeting of the interim board of directors. |
00:26:21.49 | Phipps | that meeting |
00:26:23.08 | Phipps | at that meeting, we will invite members of the steering committee, relevant property owners and business owners within the district. And it is that group that will make the initial appointments through an election process. |
00:26:36.83 | Phipps | of interim officers. So those interim officers through this election process will become members of this interim board of directors. |
00:26:45.42 | Councilmember Kelman | And can council members attend that meeting? |
00:26:48.67 | Phipps | I would not have, I don't see any issues with counsel being present at that meeting. |
00:26:53.84 | Councilmember Kelman | But we'd have to watch the Brown Act. So OK. And then have you seen in your experience, and again, apologies, I should have asked you earlier today, where the larger contributor to a P bid has more votes or weighted votes based on a contribution? |
00:27:12.13 | Phipps | Mm. |
00:27:12.76 | Phipps | Yeah, I think that that is something that the steering committee has has kind of responded favorably towards. And I think that that makes logical sense, at least in my mind. What has been discussed previously in connection with the makeup of this interim board is that the city will have two seats on that board, whatever it is. And that would be partly motivated by based on city's high percentage of property ownership and weighted assessment. |
00:27:39.89 | Councilmember Blaustein | Thank you very much. I just had a follow-on. That's been a blast. Sorry for the back and forth, but just on the parking piece, Director Huss, what's our average occupancy of lots one and two at this point, are they typically full? |
00:27:41.91 | Cheryl Pop | I'm not sure. |
00:27:42.59 | Cheryl Pop | Sorry. |
00:27:51.95 | Councilmember Blaustein | the percent. |
00:27:52.14 | Hess | Lot two has a higher occupancy than lot one. Lot one's occupancy rate varies greatly depending upon the time of year. |
00:28:00.82 | Hess | Um, |
00:28:01.84 | Hess | looking at |
00:28:03.19 | Hess | my calculations. |
00:28:04.98 | Hess | January, we're about 60%. |
00:28:06.87 | Hess | occupancy. |
00:28:06.99 | Councilmember Blaustein | occupy. |
00:28:08.12 | Hess | We rise up to about 83, 84 during the peak seasons of July. So I see capacity in the data. |
00:28:14.01 | Councilmember Blaustein | COMPANY. |
00:28:15.58 | Councilmember Blaustein | And is that around the potential number of |
00:28:18.14 | Councilmember Blaustein | parking spaces that would be lost. |
00:28:20.42 | Hess | Potentially, yes. |
00:28:21.62 | Councilmember Blaustein | Okay, so if we were to create |
00:28:23.75 | Councilmember Blaustein | demand for full occupancy of those lots, we would likely make up for the missing revenue through the demand generation. |
00:28:30.75 | Hess | I would agree. |
00:28:31.60 | Councilmember Blaustein | Okay. And if we were to see another business open, potentially overseeing our revenue projections, that would impact parking as well. Right. Director Phipps. |
00:28:39.64 | Phipps | assuming that the people who |
00:28:42.66 | Phipps | Shop at that business, utilize that business, drive cars and park cars in Sausalito. |
00:28:46.70 | Councilmember Blaustein | So just to confirm all of the assessments that we've made thus far and projections regarding the bid show that they are a net gain fiscally for the city. |
00:28:55.19 | Phipps | correct in a conservative scenario. |
00:28:57.04 | Councilmember Blaustein | Great. Thank you. |
00:28:58.44 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you, Director Phipps. Do you have another question? |
00:29:01.60 | Councilmember Hoffman | I do have a follow-up on that. So... |
00:29:06.69 | Councilmember Hoffman | Based on the questions that Councilman Blaustein just asked, it seems to be that she's saying that there's no net revenue loss in the loss of 35 parking spots. Is that your assessment? |
00:29:23.15 | Phipps | Is that, is that? I apologize, council member. |
00:29:23.45 | Unknown | Exactly. |
00:29:25.16 | Councilmember Hoffman | Council member. Anybody think that we're not going to lose revenue if we lose 35 parking spots? I'm talking to Mr. Phipps and Director Hesch. I would |
00:29:31.47 | Phipps | Yep. |
00:29:31.70 | Hess | Thank you. |
00:29:31.74 | Phipps | Thank you. |
00:29:31.77 | Unknown | All right. |
00:29:32.14 | Phipps | Thank you. |
00:29:32.19 | Phipps | I would say all LL sequel. Yes, you would, you would reduce your revenue. |
00:29:39.90 | Councilmember Hoffman | Okay, thanks. That's it. |
00:29:41.41 | Mary Sobieski | If you have 35 spots that are empty and no one's parking there and you remove them, |
00:29:46.40 | Mary Sobieski | Where, where does the lost revenue come from? |
00:29:49.29 | Phipps | Oh, the excuse me, I was functioning under the assumption that revenue was being generated by those spaces. |
00:29:53.93 | Mary Sobieski | see and council member glassine's question was about occupancy rates suggesting that there are some periods of time when we don't have 100 occupancy |
00:30:00.96 | Mary Sobieski | So. |
00:30:02.20 | Mary Sobieski | No, that actually... |
00:30:02.23 | Councilmember Hoffman | No, that actually, okay, let me follow up on that. |
00:30:03.63 | Mary Sobieski | Let's save the discussion for the discussion part. |
00:30:06.10 | Councilmember Hoffman | I know this is a question for the... Are you cutting me off? I mean, you do hear it. |
00:30:07.68 | Mary Sobieski | Well- |
00:30:08.76 | Mary Sobieski | I'm asking if you have a factual question. I have a question based on yours. Go right ahead. |
00:30:10.58 | Councilmember Hoffman | I have a question based on yours. |
00:30:12.44 | Councilmember Hoffman | Okay, so, okay, so, |
00:30:16.22 | Councilmember Hoffman | We have |
00:30:18.31 | Councilmember Hoffman | Lots in town. |
00:30:19.91 | Councilmember Hoffman | Sometimes they're full, sometimes they're not, but we know |
00:30:23.14 | Councilmember Hoffman | on a monthly basis and on an annual basis, how much revenue we earn from these lots, right? |
00:30:28.59 | Councilmember Hoffman | And so the fact that we have flex capacity sometimes in the lots obviously means we're not making as much revenue. |
00:30:37.67 | Councilmember Hoffman | But if we lose 35 spots, which is... |
00:30:41.41 | Councilmember Hoffman | If 100, we have 100 and... |
00:30:43.67 | Councilmember Hoffman | 81. 90 spots in lot one. |
00:30:44.06 | Hess | 81. |
00:30:45.82 | Hess | 181. |
00:30:47.20 | Councilmember Hoffman | anyone. |
00:30:48.15 | Councilmember Hoffman | We have 181. If we have, how many do we have in lot two? |
00:30:52.01 | Hess | I don't know that number off the top of my head. |
00:30:54.29 | Councilmember Hoffman | So the point being on any given day, |
00:30:57.68 | Councilmember Hoffman | regardless of what time of year it is, we never go down below... |
00:31:03.01 | Councilmember Hoffman | look to me like on our chart 58 occupancy in our in our lots |
00:31:08.04 | Hess | Yes. |
00:31:08.75 | Councilmember Hoffman | Okay. |
00:31:08.84 | Hess | Yeah. |
00:31:09.06 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
00:31:09.66 | Councilmember Hoffman | So the loss of parking revenue, every time we lose a parking spot, if we don't replace it somehow, |
00:31:15.03 | Councilmember Hoffman | we're going to lose revenue. |
00:31:17.34 | Hess | marginal revenue, in my opinion, because we are not full in those lots throughout the day or throughout the year. |
00:31:24.23 | Hess | But you agree that we do. |
00:31:24.26 | Councilmember Hoffman | But you agree that- |
00:31:25.81 | Hess | There is going to be some. I get it. |
00:31:25.86 | Councilmember Hoffman | There is. |
00:31:27.50 | Councilmember Hoffman | I get it. |
00:31:28.51 | Councilmember Hoffman | I get it, but if we take permanently remove a parking spot. |
00:31:32.04 | Councilmember Hoffman | Permanently remove it. |
00:31:34.94 | Councilmember Hoffman | On an annual basis, we won't earn any money off that spot, right? |
00:31:35.35 | Beth Swerke | . |
00:31:35.36 | Hess | Sure. |
00:31:36.29 | Hess | We will not warn... |
00:31:40.04 | Hess | That is correct. But other spots are available for patients to park in. |
00:31:41.42 | Councilmember Hoffman | Okay. |
00:31:43.57 | Councilmember Hoffman | Patrons depart. |
00:31:44.83 | Councilmember Hoffman | I understand. Okay, thank you. |
00:31:48.00 | Mary Sobieski | Are there any other questions? |
00:31:50.92 | Mary Sobieski | There'll be opportunity for public comment later, madam. So, Mr. Phipps, now we take public comment, I believe. Yes, thank you. So, city clerk, could you please open public comment on this matter? |
00:32:02.85 | Phipps | Thank you, City Council. |
00:32:04.07 | City Clerk | Just as a reminder, members of the public who are on Zoom, you can use the raise hand function and we'll call you in the order that we receive it. So everybody, two minutes. Please head up to the dice. I'm going to give about three names. Hank Baker, Kieran Culligan, and Don Daglow. |
00:32:04.25 | Phipps | Thank you. |
00:32:04.27 | Unknown | I'm not listening. |
00:32:30.80 | Hank Baker | Mayor, city council? |
00:32:32.87 | Hank Baker | My name is Hank Baker, resident and business owner of downtown Sausalito and also on EDEC committee. |
00:32:39.74 | Hank Baker | Um, |
00:32:40.96 | Hank Baker | Before you is a proposal that is a shared risk between the business community and the city. |
00:32:47.76 | Hank Baker | And the business community is willing to step up and put their dollars where their mouth is. |
00:32:55.08 | Hank Baker | This is not a guarantee. |
00:32:57.19 | Hank Baker | but it certainly is a very, very well calculated risk. |
00:33:01.09 | Hank Baker | downtown. |
00:33:02.47 | Hank Baker | needs some help. |
00:33:04.21 | Hank Baker | downtown. |
00:33:05.44 | Hank Baker | Landscaping has been dead for a while. |
00:33:08.38 | Hank Baker | the stickers all over the poles. |
00:33:10.51 | Hank Baker | um |
00:33:11.37 | Hank Baker | Dirty sidewalks, dead flower baskets don't give a positive impression of what Sausalito is and can be to our visitors who are supplying more or less half of the revenue to the city. |
00:33:26.16 | Hank Baker | This is an opportunity to fix that. |
00:33:29.59 | Hank Baker | First of all, thank you to the |
00:33:31.30 | Hank Baker | the Public Works Department. |
00:33:33.17 | Hank Baker | They have stepped up and they've taken care of dead landscaping. They've taken care of the stickers on the poles and it looks great. |
00:33:40.49 | Hank Baker | But there are still a lot of other things to be done. And the PBID is one way of funding those improvements and the marketing necessary to get more people here and therefore to get more money into the city tills. Thank you. |
00:33:58.77 | Kieran Culligan | Kieran Culligan. Hi, Kieran Culligan, Saw Sue to Resident. Let's talk about FUD, starting with the Wikipedia description. Fear, uncertainty, and doubt. FUD is a manipulative propaganda tactic used in sales, marketing, public relations, politics, polling, and cults. FUD is generally a strategy to influence perception by disseminating negative and dubious or false information that is a manifestation to the appeal of fear. Let's talk about a real example. Today, a certain city council member emailed hundreds of Saw Sue to residents with the following. |
00:34:28.43 | Kieran Culligan | Quote, a table attached to this agenda item labeled revenue projections sets forth the fiscal analysis. This table, as well as the staff report, shows that at the end of five years, the return on the city's $650,000 investment is projected at $156,000. That is a projected, bold and underlined, negative 76% return on investment over five years. By illustration, if the city invested this money in a CD with a 4% return on investment, in the end of five years, we illustration, if the city invested this money in a CD with a 4% return on investment, in the end of five years, we would have approximately $1 million in our general fund. |
00:34:59.70 | Kieran Culligan | The bolded statement about negative 76% return on investment is beyond wrong. The city is projecting a plus 24% return on investment off by 100 percentage points. The $156,000 is on top of what the city is making back on their investment. |
00:35:16.95 | Kieran Culligan | The math about investing $650,000 in a CD and getting $1 million in five years |
00:35:23.07 | Kieran Culligan | Also wrong by about $200,000. I don't have time to get into it. |
00:35:27.26 | Kieran Culligan | Maybe these numbers were just passed along by your friend, Arthur Anderson, and you didn't check him. But in any case, it's incorrect. It's misleading. It's reckless. And it deserves a retraction. |
00:35:36.36 | Kieran Culligan | Thank you. |
00:35:43.56 | Mary Sobieski | Let's please not have applause or boos from the audience, either one. Let's give everyone the... |
00:35:50.34 | Mary Sobieski | Same treatment at the podium. |
00:35:52.84 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you, Mr. Daglow. Go ahead. |
00:35:55.07 | Don Daglow | Don Daglow EDAC member I've lived in three different Sausalito neighborhoods and I've worked in town for 16 years. I think what I want, I want to tell a story to illustrate this because we've heard the numbers we've heard about projections. |
00:36:09.36 | Don Daglow | 45 years ago, I was a young assistant superintendent of schools in a bedroom community. |
00:36:15.05 | Don Daglow | in Southern California. |
00:36:16.79 | Don Daglow | Native Marinite, but I was down there. |
00:36:19.40 | Don Daglow | My mentor took me aside and said, |
00:36:21.58 | Don Daglow | Kid, you got to understand if you're going to be an administrator in this school district, |
00:36:25.95 | Don Daglow | We're a veteran community. We do not have a business base. All we have is state grants, federal grants, and property tax. That's all we've got. And that's what you have to work with as an administrator. |
00:36:40.33 | Don Daglow | In Sausalito, we are very fortunate. We have a long established business community. |
00:36:46.13 | Don Daglow | 25 years ago, I was part of another business community in Marin, |
00:36:50.98 | Don Daglow | And the business community there was out to maximize their own money, and they did not try to act in the interest of the community. And I was shocked. |
00:37:00.26 | Don Daglow | at this. I was appalled to see this behavior in meetings. And I spoke up and I was asked not to return to those meetings. |
00:37:08.56 | Don Daglow | The Sausalito business community is part of the community. They act proactively. When I came down here and started doing business here, I was so relieved. |
00:37:18.38 | Don Daglow | to see that approach. That felt like Marin to me. |
00:37:21.79 | Don Daglow | as a Marin native. |
00:37:23.56 | Don Daglow | The numbers are being carried well. This is our defense. Cooperation. |
00:37:28.52 | Don Daglow | against the fact |
00:37:29.99 | Don Daglow | that property tax is the thing we all want to avoid raising, |
00:37:34.90 | Don Daglow | We all want to defend homeownership and homeowners |
00:37:38.73 | Don Daglow | collaborating with the business community |
00:37:41.08 | Don Daglow | to build income for the city, |
00:37:43.71 | Don Daglow | is the way to do that. Thank you very much. |
00:37:47.42 | Mary Sobieski | Right. |
00:37:47.47 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
00:37:47.49 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you, sir. Who is next city clerk? |
00:37:49.04 | City Clerk | We have Sue Fisher King, Sandra Bushmaker, and John Flavin. |
00:37:58.95 | Sue Fisher King | Good evening, Mayor Zobieski and Vice Mayor and City Council members. This is the first time I've ever done this, so forgive me. |
00:38:01.40 | City Clerk | mayor. |
00:38:06.32 | Sue Fisher King | I've lived here for 40 plus years and I'm speaking from the standpoint of being a San Francisco business owner for 40 plus years. |
00:38:14.20 | Bonnie McGregor | or. |
00:38:14.30 | Bonnie McGregor | Thank you. |
00:38:16.20 | Sue Fisher King | And I have lived and worked, not lived, but worked on a street in San Francisco, which is not unusual, that is in a merchant district. And there are many of those areas in San Francisco that support the merchants or businesses on that street in that area. And they all have names. I happen to be Sacramento Street. I've now moved to Fillmore Street. |
00:38:39.58 | Sue Fisher King | but they're all merchants associations in those areas. |
00:38:42.96 | Sue Fisher King | And what came to my mind when I first started reading about this business improvement district is that it appears to me |
00:38:49.89 | Sue Fisher King | that by establishing our merchant districts, |
00:38:53.74 | Sue Fisher King | we have solved these problems. |
00:38:56.43 | Sue Fisher King | by the cooperation of all the merchants of whatever business they're in, |
00:39:01.00 | Sue Fisher King | on our streets and having them join together in associations where we meet regularly, make plans for our future together, raise money through dues, through events that we plan, and we end up having enough money to hire PR people to help us put on our events. And overall, when you think about it, when you think of Union Street, which is an institution, |
00:39:22.67 | Sue Fisher King | and the Union Street events, and the Fillmore Street events, and the Jazz Festival, etc. All of those things are merchant-sponsored events, and the city doesn't get involved in any way except maybe to close the street. So I'm just saying that |
00:39:38.11 | Sue Fisher King | I was never raised in this business to be working with the city of San Francisco, for example, to have them helping me establish my business or keep my business running. |
00:39:51.10 | Sue Fisher King | or in any way involve the city with my business, |
00:39:54.22 | Sue Fisher King | nor would I like that. |
00:39:55.82 | Sue Fisher King | So I'm just stating from my standpoint what this has appeared like. Thank you. |
00:40:03.40 | City Clerk | Senator Bushmaker. |
00:40:04.26 | Sandra Bushmaker | Good evening, everybody. Good evening, council, audience. |
00:40:07.97 | Sandra Bushmaker | I'm not against business improvement districts. |
00:40:10.81 | Sandra Bushmaker | I'm against this one because it involves the city at 50%. |
00:40:15.49 | Sandra Bushmaker | And we are in a deficit. |
00:40:17.21 | Sandra Bushmaker | spending. |
00:40:17.95 | Sandra Bushmaker | mode this year again. |
00:40:20.34 | Sandra Bushmaker | And so |
00:40:21.61 | Sandra Bushmaker | It seems to me that we need to be cautious |
00:40:24.63 | Sandra Bushmaker | I object to the |
00:40:27.08 | Sandra Bushmaker | the maps, |
00:40:28.53 | Sandra Bushmaker | They seem to be gerrymandered. |
00:40:30.62 | Sandra Bushmaker | in order that the city has a 50% |
00:40:33.46 | Sandra Bushmaker | Interesting. |
00:40:34.47 | Sandra Bushmaker | and a 50% responsibility. |
00:40:37.37 | Sandra Bushmaker | I also would like to object to the |
00:40:40.14 | Sandra Bushmaker | apparent lack of transparency. I know we've had a lot of meetings, but it has been rather secret who's been on the steering committee. |
00:40:49.17 | Sandra Bushmaker | And it was only until one council member pressed staff at one of the meetings that names were read. |
00:40:55.06 | Sandra Bushmaker | But that has never been published. |
00:40:57.15 | Sandra Bushmaker | And so the public does not know who's on this steering committee. |
00:41:00.81 | Sandra Bushmaker | And it appears that the city is only going to have two seats. |
00:41:05.01 | Sandra Bushmaker | on this new board. What if the board is 15 people? |
00:41:09.26 | Sandra Bushmaker | divided by two seats, that is not a 50% representation. I think the city should have a 50% representation on this board. |
00:41:17.50 | Sandra Bushmaker | I think |
00:41:18.48 | Sandra Bushmaker | Given the. |
00:41:19.46 | Sandra Bushmaker | uh, |
00:41:20.72 | Sandra Bushmaker | Engineer's report. And I want to ask how many of you actually read all pages of the engineer's report and understood everything and the assumptions raised in that? |
00:41:29.92 | Sandra Bushmaker | I will say that I've read it. |
00:41:32.03 | Sandra Bushmaker | I do not understand it. |
00:41:33.97 | Sandra Bushmaker | And there are many, many questions that come up in my mind. |
00:41:37.03 | Sandra Bushmaker | So, |
00:41:37.92 | Sandra Bushmaker | I would like to see this matter tabled until we can get our finances in order. |
00:41:42.47 | Sandra Bushmaker | until we can be more sure that the council that the city will have |
00:41:47.72 | Sandra Bushmaker | a 50% representation. I would prefer a zero or 3% as in most |
00:41:53.51 | Sandra Bushmaker | jurisdictions where BIDs are used. |
00:41:56.23 | Sandra Bushmaker | It's excessive to have |
00:41:57.85 | Sandra Bushmaker | this amount of |
00:41:59.91 | Sandra Bushmaker | obligation on the city shoulders. |
00:42:03.15 | Sandra Bushmaker | And lastly, I would like the weight |
00:42:06.03 | Sandra Bushmaker | weighted ballots described. |
00:42:08.18 | Sandra Bushmaker | . |
00:42:10.15 | John Flavin | Thank you. |
00:42:10.18 | City Clerk | All right. |
00:42:10.72 | John Flavin | on. |
00:42:10.82 | City Clerk | I'm fine. |
00:42:10.98 | John Flavin | 11. |
00:42:13.27 | John Flavin | Paraphrase Winston Churchill. |
00:42:14.98 | John Flavin | never have so many funded so few. And I am very suspicious of the structure of this bid. I think there are going to be five to six groups that are going to dominate and they're going to use the money. This smells like... |
00:42:32.21 | John Flavin | you've got your cronyism going. So to combat cronyism, be transparent. |
00:42:39.24 | John Flavin | Make the... |
00:42:40.42 | John Flavin | bid come out once a quarter and report how they're doing. They've laid out their requirements, they laid out their objectives, they've laid out their performance. |
00:42:51.12 | John Flavin | So track them. |
00:42:52.59 | John Flavin | Don't do like you did with the Sausalito Center for the Arts. Do the deal and just forget about them. |
00:42:59.64 | John Flavin | You got to follow and do what these, check these people. It's, |
00:43:05.82 | John Flavin | It doesn't pass my sniff test. Maybe I'm wrong, but I do think you need to follow up. Thank you. |
00:43:15.71 | City Clerk | Okay, next we have Carolyn Revell, Scott Thornburg, and Charles Melton. |
00:43:25.28 | Fred Moore | Good evening. I'm Carolyn Revell. And as you know, I have long supported this PBID and Sausalito Beautiful |
00:43:32.05 | Fred Moore | of which I'm a board member also. Our board members are enthusiastic about the bid. |
00:43:36.77 | Fred Moore | Um, |
00:43:37.33 | Fred Moore | Such a district will create revenues to provide an extra level of services for our downtown |
00:43:42.32 | Fred Moore | over and above those the city can provide. As Councilmember Cox pointed out, that will allow, for example, a higher level of maintenance of our trees that the city |
00:43:53.41 | Fred Moore | revenues so far have not been able to maintain |
00:43:56.38 | Fred Moore | And there will, of course, be a lot of other beautification |
00:43:59.50 | Fred Moore | programs that the management plan suggests |
00:44:02.03 | Fred Moore | planting and maintaining |
00:44:03.38 | Fred Moore | additional trees |
00:44:05.30 | Fred Moore | As I've said, a colorful planter boxes, hanging baskets, new trash receptacles. |
00:44:09.71 | Fred Moore | perhaps with attractive designs, |
00:44:11.75 | Fred Moore | embellished by artists. |
00:44:13.42 | Fred Moore | other beautification |
00:44:14.77 | Fred Moore | Efforts can include artistic tiles on the stairs. We've been talking about that. |
00:44:18.89 | Fred Moore | So I think there's a range of improvements over and above what the city can provide through its budget for our parks and downtown. And I urge you to vote once the ballots come in to create such a bid. Thank you very much. |
00:44:36.05 | Adrian Brinton | stuff. |
00:44:36.30 | Adrian Brinton | Thornwood. |
00:44:38.43 | Scott Thornburg | Good evening, Council. Scott Thornburg, Chair of EDAC. One of the questions that came up earlier from Council Member Kelman was around how this may support our parks. And I think that's a fair question. So one of the things that EDAC did previously in our support of partnering with the city on its marketing efforts previously was also supporting our Parks and Rec department and many of their events. And actually, in this year's budget, we removed. There is no line item for advertising and marketing within Parks and Rec. |
00:45:07.14 | Scott Thornburg | We also removed the CDA contract. So there is no marketing happening at all. |
00:45:11.25 | Scott Thornburg | And I would argue that that is an area where the bid could step up and really support our parks department and the city overall is in helping to drive more people to events that are happening in that downtown area. The parks and rec department have put on several really fantastic events just this year, as you all know, I'm sure seen many of you there. And I think we could really support them by investing a little bit more. Also, to a comment that was made just a minute ago about transparency and reporting, I completely agree. You know, we, I think, need to be transparent. We need to be. |
00:45:46.82 | Scott Thornburg | reporting out on our successes. And the thing that I'm most excited about with the bid is that it is a test, right? We're committing to five years and only five years. And if we don't like it, we don't have to renew it. And if it's not working before then, we don't have to continue. And I think that's a really wonderful opportunity for all of us to be able to invest in something that we can trial. And as a part of that, under state law, my understanding is that there are several checks and balances under state law to enforce reporting and transparency, like with our other commissions and in the city. So Brandon's nodding his head, I think they even have to follow the Brown Act also. So they would be posting agendas, the whole community would have an opportunity to participate. So I hope that alleviates some fear. I really believe in this community, and I believe in our businesses, and I hope you do too. Thank you. |
00:46:40.32 | Charles Melton | Charles Martin. |
00:46:41.80 | Charles Melton | Charles Melton, Good evening, my name is Charles Melton I just want to address a couple points are raised previously about the reporting requirement, I agree in oversight. Charles Melton, The individual speaking before said that this didn't pass a sniff test because there wasn't oversight. |
00:46:54.90 | Charles Melton | From my understanding, |
00:46:56.08 | Charles Melton | In the management report that was created by the diocese here. |
00:46:59.07 | Charles Melton | and given direction to it. |
00:47:00.52 | Charles Melton | it actually includes strict reporting requirements. So it's there. It's going to be transparent to the community. I believe it will be transparent to the community. A previous speaker also spoke about merchant associations on specific streets in San Francisco. That might work for the city of San Francisco, a really big city with lots of shops. This is Sausalito. We're a small town. We're a small city across the bridge. That's what makes La Salita really unique and different. And that's why we need to think differently. We can't copy what the city across the Bay does. We have to be unique. And that's exactly what this PBID does. This PBID was created with input from the community, from our city counselors with their wise guidance and from our business community. |
00:47:39.97 | Charles Melton | And let's just take a moment to pause and reflect on how unique this really is. Our businesses are asking to be taxed. |
00:47:48.88 | Charles Melton | In what other city does that occur? |
00:47:51.87 | Charles Melton | This is unique. This is different. |
00:47:54.30 | Charles Melton | our businesses have stepped up to the plate. And as a taxpayer here in the city, |
00:47:58.52 | Charles Melton | I want my downtown improved too. I would like my tax dollars to go and improve downtown. I would like to see every parking spot filled as council member Hoffman has his vision for it. Would absolutely love that, to have more revenues come in to fix our infrastructure. I would love to have events in Gabrielsen Park in the winter when demand is low and be able to fill those parks. |
00:48:18.01 | Charles Melton | Ultimately, I believe that tomorrow is a day too late. We can't kick the can down the road or vote later. We have to solve this issue today. |
00:48:25.86 | Charles Melton | As Councilmember Hoffman said, if we are in a deficit, we have to make strict decisions. I believe that decision is by investing in our downtown, our main revenue source for our city, and throwing everything we can at it. And that's what this PBIT does very thoughtfully, very carefully, and with robust public input. Thank you. |
00:48:44.55 | City Clerk | All right, we have Sharna Brockett. |
00:48:47.29 | City Clerk | Cass Green and Adrian Brinton. |
00:49:05.68 | Sharna Brockett | Hi, I'm Sharna Brockett, and I've been a resident here for, I think, 12 years, maybe over that. And I'm in full support of the PBID. |
00:49:14.69 | Sharna Brockett | I think I've expressed this before, and I think a lot of us have felt the same, but every time I walk down Bridgeway, I feel frustrated because we are the jewel of the bay and our downtown waterfront could be so much more. And I know I'm not alone. |
00:49:21.20 | Unknown | because, |
00:49:28.48 | Sharna Brockett | I'd love to see our downtown thrive, and I'd like to see it attract profitable businesses that appeal to both residents and visitors. |
00:49:35.36 | Unknown | and, |
00:49:35.47 | Unknown | and |
00:49:35.50 | Unknown | the |
00:49:36.71 | Sharna Brockett | I'd like to see our many, many empty storefronts filled. And I think people have mentioned it here, but P bids are a proven model that have worked in other places that have older struggling downtowns. I've mentioned Petaluma over and over again, every time I comment. |
00:49:50.97 | Sharna Brockett | The San Diego Gaslamp, or Little Italy is an example, Old Pasadena, Santa Barbara. I was just up in Bend, Oregon. They have a business improvement district and beautiful art, murals, lots of events going on in the evenings. Really, really, it was really, really fun to be there. They lead to increased civic pride, economic development, and they increase our tax revenue. |
00:49:58.41 | Unknown | and so. |
00:50:13.74 | Sharna Brockett | and property values. And I want to also mention that my understanding is that businesses contribute 40% to our tax base and residents property taxes contribute 25%. So supporting our businesses will in the end help Sausalito increase its tax base. |
00:50:34.64 | Sharna Brockett | And I also just want to mention that this amount that we're going to |
00:50:38.26 | Sharna Brockett | that the city needs to contribute to the P bid is my understanding is less than one half of a percent of our general fund. So I just want to put that in perspective. We're not talking about it's a very small fraction of our general fund. |
00:50:52.01 | Sharna Brockett | So, you know what, if we want to see our downtown, if we want to see it more beautiful and attract higher quality stores or high quality stores for our residents and for our visitors, then we need to do something different. What we're doing right now is not working. Thank you. |
00:51:09.26 | City Clerk | Cass Green. |
00:51:11.23 | Cass Green | Hi gang, here we finally are after a year and a half and I'm very excited. I'm very hopeful for how the ballots will turn out. |
00:51:19.99 | Cass Green | And the businesses are very hopeful too. |
00:51:23.08 | Cass Green | because we believe a rising tide lifts all boats. I think creating the PBID is the right thing to do for Sausalito, it's right for its businesses, it's right for its residents, and it's right for its guests. |
00:51:35.31 | Cass Green | So I want to thank all of you, all five of you, for all the work that you have done. You've had to be in every one of these meetings just as much as I had, and you've had to work really hard to do that. And I want to also really thank the whole PBID team. |
00:51:49.54 | Cass Green | who have made phone calls, met with people, |
00:51:53.38 | Cass Green | Um, |
00:51:54.41 | Cass Green | uh, |
00:51:54.99 | Cass Green | you know, reached out to people |
00:51:57.52 | Cass Green | and worked really, really hard to make this happen. So again, it's the right thing to do. And I hope tonight that we implement it. Thank you. |
00:52:09.89 | City Clerk | Adrian Brinton. |
00:52:11.88 | Adrian Brinton | I'm Adrian Brenton, resident for about 11 years now. |
00:52:15.52 | Adrian Brinton | So really interesting tonight to hear the gentleman stand up and kind of comment about cronyism and that. |
00:52:21.45 | Adrian Brinton | That's really something I've only seen in kind of anonymous emails that have gone around. Sometimes maybe not anonymous. There was one recently that was not anonymous that talked in the same kind of language. |
00:52:31.47 | Adrian Brinton | You know, |
00:52:32.65 | Adrian Brinton | Through this process, I've known a lot of our business people in town. I've got to know a lot more of them through this process. |
00:52:39.86 | Adrian Brinton | They're a huge part of our community. They are in many cases, our neighbors. They've been having business in town for decades. They're on the EDAC. Yes, they're on the PBID. Yes, they'll probably be helping run the PBID. We're a small town and this is how it works. This is how this process has gone. From the very beginning through each of the meetings, the same people have been getting up and promoting this. And I really feel like, |
00:53:05.86 | Adrian Brinton | These are people we should be trusting. They're our community. They want to make our town better. And when our town does better, we do better. If we have a downtown full of businesses, our tax base goes way up. So we can put this money in. |
00:53:22.05 | Adrian Brinton | It's not gonna make a huge amount of money based on the projections. The projections are conservative, I believe after reading them. |
00:53:28.05 | Adrian Brinton | You know, this is well worth the investment. And I honestly think that with the amount of energy behind this, the amount of trust this is building in our community by doing this with our businesses. |
00:53:38.26 | Adrian Brinton | It's going to outperform what we're, what we're talking about. |
00:53:40.76 | Adrian Brinton | And again, you know, just reiterate, |
00:53:42.75 | Adrian Brinton | When our businesses are successful, Sausalito is successful as a resident. I would love to see that. |
00:53:48.34 | Adrian Brinton | Thank you very much. |
00:53:51.56 | City Clerk | All right. |
00:53:51.95 | City Clerk | Next we have Willie McDevitt, Beth Swerke, and Steven Woodside. |
00:54:03.51 | Willie McDevitt | William McDevitt, Good evening Council members i'm Willie mcdevitt one of the owners of 30 l portal I live in petaluma was involved in from the formation of the p bid in petaluma so long ago I don't remember what year it is, and it has been a phenomenal success. William McDevitt, As a business person. |
00:54:23.22 | Willie McDevitt | when we all everybody that is involved in paying the tax is probably saying well we want to get more out of this than we put in which is the point of the the whole thing and in Petaluma it's been beyond its wildest expectations in terms of return on investment benefit to the community bringing in more better restaurants, keeping their storefronts occupied. And when they're leased, when one is empty, it's not empty for very long. Those are all the things that make it work. And in our case for In Above Tide, |
00:55:00.85 | Willie McDevitt | you know, we have three main assets. One is the view, the others are people and the third is the town. And without a thriving great town, |
00:55:15.45 | Willie McDevitt | The other businesses don't benefit from us and we don't benefit from them. And in the case of this, somebody talked about what a 1% increase would be. In the case of In Above Tide, a 1% increase of occupancy would yield the city, if the numbers are right, somewhere around $7,000. So this is real money. There's a lot of smart people saying, I'm willing to pay this tax because I'm going to get more out of it than I pay. And I think the same would be true for the city. And I support the formation of the PBIT. Thank you. |
00:55:56.35 | Beth Swerke | Beth Swerke, Ph.D.: Hi, my name is that's work i'm a nine year resident of salsa lido. Beth Swerke, Ph.D.: Thank you all for your time and for the work that you've done towards this. Beth Swerke, Ph.D.: it's really incredible to sit here and listen to all the businesses who desperately want to pay you pay money to have this happen, so I hope that we can support them. |
00:56:12.33 | Beth Swerke | Um, |
00:56:12.95 | Beth Swerke | I'm coming from the view of a resident who goes on walks down there and wow, beautiful sight at first and then. |
00:56:20.06 | Beth Swerke | real dirty and just has so much potential. I just came back from touring a small town somewhere else. It's a tourist city, very similar to ours. It was clean. It was beautiful. It was thriving. |
00:56:31.11 | Beth Swerke | And it just was empowering and a beautiful envision of what our city should |
00:56:36.16 | Beth Swerke | be and deserves to be. |
00:56:37.88 | Beth Swerke | Um, |
00:56:38.81 | Beth Swerke | This will revitalize Art on Town. We all know that. I won't repeat what everybody else said here tonight. I think what's important though is to remember |
00:56:47.43 | Beth Swerke | this is going to be a benefit for the city financially. We've been sitting here brainstorming ways to increase budget and |
00:56:53.29 | Beth Swerke | do things that we can get revenue in this town, here is one. It is an easy one. It is an obvious one. |
00:56:58.96 | Beth Swerke | Appreciate you doing it. |
00:57:00.53 | Beth Swerke | And just want to reiterate what others have said. It has passed the sniff test in some really amazing tourist towns, and we should be included in that list. Thank you. |
00:57:12.32 | Steven Woodside | Hi, Mayor Sobieski, may it please the council. My name is Steven Woodside. I'm a proud Sausalito resident and I'm supporting the PBID. I'd like to provide a little historical context that |
00:57:22.85 | Steven Woodside | that I lived through. |
00:57:24.83 | Steven Woodside | Back in the 1990s, when Governor Pete Wilson was in charge, most of the property taxes for this city and every city in the state were shrunk dramatically. And |
00:57:39.15 | Steven Woodside | Then, when Governor Jerry Brown was in power, another mechanism that would have been perhaps useful here, redevelopment, was eliminated. So the two sources of revenue that might have been available to revitalize the downtown, to do the kinds of things that are contemplated by the PBIB, |
00:57:59.54 | Steven Woodside | They're not there anymore. |
00:58:00.80 | Steven Woodside | You have very, very few options left, and this is one. So I encourage you to do it. |
00:58:05.80 | Steven Woodside | People have mentioned other towns and how, you know, as a measure of either success or concern. I want to give you information that I just got today before coming here from the city of Capitola. Very similar to us in size, budget, et cetera. They've had a P bid. They call it a business improvement area. |
00:58:29.17 | Steven Woodside | Um, |
00:58:30.01 | Steven Woodside | under the same law |
00:58:31.87 | Steven Woodside | It's about $145,000 budget. |
00:58:35.60 | Steven Woodside | They have two paid people. That's it. |
00:58:39.21 | Steven Woodside | They provide all kinds of outreach and marketing, as well as improvements in the town. |
00:58:46.03 | Steven Woodside | Thank you. |
00:58:46.11 | Steven Woodside | And that city this year will generate over $2.1 million in T.O.T. |
00:58:53.93 | Steven Woodside | At least a third, probably more, is in the actual business improvement district. So there's precedent out there for success. Time will tell whether this works, but you should really pursue it. Thank you. |
00:59:08.81 | City Clerk | Next, we have Alice Merrill, Jeff Chase, and Marie E. Dawkins. |
00:59:21.21 | Alice Merrill | Hello, everybody. I'd very much like to have this PBID be very successful. Personally, I don't know what they are because I'm not in business, but I think it's fine. I hear that people appreciate it and approve of it and want it to happen. I just understand that most cities |
00:59:30.07 | Councilmember Hoffman | I'm not. |
00:59:30.16 | Unknown | and, |
00:59:43.44 | Alice Merrill | The city isn't the one who instigates it. It's usually the businesses who put it together for themselves. And I would feel more comfortable if that were the case, if it hadn't come from here, if it hadn't come from a night when nobody knew what it was. We had people giving presentations about who they were and how they did this. |
01:00:08.41 | Alice Merrill | That's the part that bothers me is that the city is pushing it, presenting it, being a 50% part of it. When we have roads that are falling apart and... |
01:00:20.19 | Alice Merrill | cotholes and and chippets and all kinds of things and |
01:00:24.58 | Alice Merrill | that it's just not... |
01:00:27.75 | Alice Merrill | We need to pay attention to that and we can trust the businesses to take care and to care about what they're doing. And- |
01:00:36.68 | Alice Merrill | they, |
01:00:37.93 | Alice Merrill | I'm... |
01:00:38.75 | Alice Merrill | all for it. I just don't think that we should be the ones who are doing it. They should be, and we should be fixing our roads. Thank you. |
01:00:50.09 | City Clerk | Jeff Chase. |
01:00:56.74 | Jeffrey Chase | Hello, Mayor. Hello, City Council. Hello, citizens of Sausalito. |
01:01:02.18 | Jeffrey Chase | The Anchorage still survives. |
01:01:05.32 | Jeffrey Chase | Because you've taken away |
01:01:08.08 | Jeffrey Chase | two minutes or three minutes before the meeting. |
01:01:10.85 | Jeffrey Chase | for people to speak on any topic. |
01:01:15.29 | Jeffrey Chase | I will... |
01:01:17.04 | Jeffrey Chase | meld the idea of the businesses |
01:01:20.65 | Jeffrey Chase | and the dwindling anchorage together. |
01:01:24.30 | Jeffrey Chase | Melissa. |
01:01:27.10 | Jeffrey Chase | A good Jewish boy said you cannot serve |
01:01:30.49 | Jeffrey Chase | Both God and mammon. |
01:01:33.58 | Jeffrey Chase | You will, that's called money. |
01:01:36.20 | Jeffrey Chase | Dollars, shekels, |
01:01:39.08 | Jeffrey Chase | Euros. |
01:01:40.52 | Jeffrey Chase | Gold. |
01:01:41.56 | Jeffrey Chase | silver, furs. |
01:01:44.75 | Jeffrey Chase | Boats. |
01:01:45.90 | Jeffrey Chase | Furniture. |
01:01:47.42 | Jeffrey Chase | Double pensions. That's for our ex-police chief, by the way. |
01:01:53.34 | Jeffrey Chase | You will love one and you will hate the other. |
01:01:59.47 | Jeffrey Chase | So I don't love to hate. |
01:02:03.68 | Jeffrey Chase | And I don't hate to love. |
01:02:06.62 | Jeffrey Chase | So I love you guys, the businesses that were not able to support the people that were here before they were. |
01:02:15.23 | Jeffrey Chase | And that was the boats of Sausalito. 24 of them are still out there. |
01:02:21.12 | Jeffrey Chase | There's one now, it's a city worker that's on the Sausalito side and no more boats on the Sausalito side. Well, I am telling you now, I will be on the Sausalito side and soon. |
01:02:36.09 | Jeffrey Chase | The businesses, I wish them all the best in the world. But the idea that they should attract tourists, again, from all over the world, and to pump carbon into our atmosphere, and to destroy the climate, and to make it hotter every day in August. |
01:02:51.74 | Jeffrey Chase | is truly insane. |
01:02:55.12 | Jeffrey Chase | Shema Yisrael, Adonai Eloheinu, Adonai Eshad, we are one. |
01:03:00.32 | Jeffrey Chase | Thank you. |
01:03:00.35 | City Clerk | We are one. |
01:03:01.14 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. |
01:03:02.16 | Mary Sobieski | He's next Mr. City Clerk. |
01:03:03.17 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
01:03:04.05 | City Clerk | All right, Marie Hawkins. |
01:03:06.78 | City Clerk | Dawkins. Sorry. |
01:03:11.24 | Marie Dawkins | Hi. |
01:03:12.37 | Mary Sobieski | Please speak into the microphone, now. |
01:03:13.57 | Marie Dawkins | I wish. |
01:03:13.78 | Marie Dawkins | is a controversial meeting, I perceive. |
01:03:17.46 | Mary Sobieski | I think the microphone has an issue, Madam. Hold on for one moment. |
01:03:23.40 | Adrian Brinton | Thank you. |
01:03:24.48 | Marie Dawkins | Thank you. |
01:03:25.72 | Marie Dawkins | Thank you. |
01:03:25.73 | Mary Sobieski | Then I'll just talk. |
01:03:26.96 | Marie Dawkins | I'm not. |
01:03:27.03 | Mary Sobieski | Talk to a big boy. People on... |
01:03:27.45 | Marie Dawkins | That's a big deal. |
01:03:29.14 | Marie Dawkins | If your phone doesn't work, is that good? |
01:03:30.36 | Mary Sobieski | But people online can't hear you. So if you would just hold on for one moment. |
01:03:33.88 | Marie Dawkins | Okay, let's wait until the microphone gets... I think it... |
01:03:36.08 | Mary Sobieski | I think it. |
01:03:37.04 | Marie Dawkins | It's good. |
01:03:37.05 | Mary Sobieski | It's good. |
01:03:37.86 | Mary Sobieski | Can you check and see if it works, please? |
01:03:40.94 | Mary Sobieski | Can you please speak into the microphone and see if it works? |
01:03:44.16 | Marie Dawkins | Thank you. |
01:03:44.18 | Mary Sobieski | you |
01:03:44.21 | Marie Dawkins | Yeah. |
01:03:44.36 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. |
01:03:44.39 | Marie Dawkins | Let's do it. |
01:03:45.36 | Mary Sobieski | So ahead. |
01:03:46.07 | Marie Dawkins | Thank you. |
01:03:46.78 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. |
01:03:46.79 | Marie Dawkins | Thank you. |
01:03:47.36 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. |
01:03:48.23 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. |
01:03:48.24 | Marie Dawkins | My name is |
01:03:49.19 | Marie Dawkins | is Marie Dawkins. I'm a newer resident. |
01:03:53.86 | Marie Dawkins | of Sausalito |
01:03:56.53 | Marie Dawkins | I lived in San Rafael in the 90s. |
01:04:00.17 | Marie Dawkins | So I'm not new to Marin County. |
01:04:04.78 | Marie Dawkins | I moved to Alaska. |
01:04:09.00 | Marie Dawkins | when I was 19 years old. |
01:04:12.10 | Marie Dawkins | after graduating from an East Bay High School. |
01:04:16.71 | Marie Dawkins | and doing one year at Shabot Ka. |
01:04:20.14 | Marie Dawkins | While in Alaska... |
01:04:22.75 | Marie Dawkins | I was able to complete my bachelor's degree. |
01:04:26.74 | Marie Dawkins | And |
01:04:27.29 | Marie Dawkins | business, public administration, and law. |
01:04:31.38 | Marie Dawkins | while raising three children and working 10 years for the office of the governor. |
01:04:41.40 | Marie Dawkins | The first thing that alerted me when I decided to speak |
01:04:47.34 | Marie Dawkins | with the fact that your interim counsel |
01:04:50.75 | Marie Dawkins | This representation by the council members, which I concede, |
01:04:59.22 | Marie Dawkins | were voted into office and therefore are supposed to also represent the |
01:05:05.24 | Marie Dawkins | The citizens. |
01:05:07.91 | Marie Dawkins | Business... |
01:05:09.68 | Marie Dawkins | and counsel. |
01:05:11.72 | Marie Dawkins | But it's the citizens who also will bear |
01:05:15.28 | Marie Dawkins | the brunt of |
01:05:17.02 | Marie Dawkins | Any loss in parking? |
01:05:19.20 | Marie Dawkins | Increase in fees. |
01:05:21.51 | Marie Dawkins | etc. |
01:05:23.06 | Marie Dawkins | I. |
01:05:24.31 | Marie Dawkins | perceive a need. |
01:05:26.72 | Marie Dawkins | For. |
01:05:28.16 | Marie Dawkins | a at-large citizen representative on the interim. |
01:05:32.45 | Marie Dawkins | Thank you. |
01:05:33.47 | Marie Dawkins | or whatever you're going to call the |
01:05:35.42 | Marie Dawkins | business improvement, |
01:05:37.46 | Marie Dawkins | plant. |
01:05:38.88 | Marie Dawkins | Um, |
01:05:42.55 | Marie Dawkins | The next issue that I have |
01:05:46.49 | Mary Sobieski | I'm just, |
01:05:46.72 | Marie Dawkins | Thank you. |
01:05:46.77 | Mary Sobieski | you |
01:05:46.87 | Marie Dawkins | Thank you. |
01:05:46.93 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. Have to wait. Thank you very much. |
01:05:47.24 | City Clerk | All right. |
01:05:47.26 | Marie Dawkins | All right. |
01:05:47.30 | City Clerk | I'm afraid. |
01:05:47.43 | Marie Dawkins | You have to wait. |
01:05:50.67 | City Clerk | Um, Teresa Ancona, Mike Monsef and Babette McDougall. |
01:06:05.32 | Teresa Ancona | Good evening. I'm here actually just representing myself, Angelino Restaurants. |
01:06:12.27 | Teresa Ancona | And |
01:06:13.67 | Teresa Ancona | You know, I walk basically I'm in town every day. |
01:06:17.54 | Teresa Ancona | Every waking moment of my life is spent here. Although I don't live here, my home is basically just a crash pad. |
01:06:24.66 | Teresa Ancona | And, you know, I would like to see improvements in the downtown. I would like to be able to walk on the sidewalk and not have the sidewalk be sticky. I would like to see better garbage cans that perhaps raccoons and skunks and |
01:06:38.76 | Teresa Ancona | Other rodents don't get into that. We don't have to confront them in the evening. |
01:06:43.98 | Teresa Ancona | I would like to see planters that actually have plants in there and trees that are alive and vibrant. I would like to see stickers removed from, you know, signs and posts. I would like to see graffiti being taken off of historical buildings. I would like to see beauty and just beauty. |
01:07:08.47 | Teresa Ancona | the jewel of what Sausalito is. People come here and |
01:07:13.63 | Teresa Ancona | It's shameful, the state of the history. |
01:07:16.21 | Teresa Ancona | downtown. I want to be proud of where I spend all of my time. And if it requires a special district and special funds to do that, then I don't see why we shouldn't because clearly the |
01:07:34.87 | Teresa Ancona | City can't provide those services because every day |
01:07:38.94 | Teresa Ancona | They're there. The sidewalks are dirty. The garbage cans have raccoons and skunks and rats in them. |
01:07:46.08 | Teresa Ancona | You know, there are a bunch of empty planters. There are all of these issues, and it would be nice to have them |
01:07:53.27 | Teresa Ancona | fixed. Thank you. |
01:07:57.77 | Mike Monsava | I can want to say. |
01:08:01.27 | Mike Monsava | I'm Mike Monsef, I think. |
01:08:05.08 | Mike Monsava | in front of this audience |
01:08:08.08 | Mike Monsava | I am the only one probably know what's happening downtown to detail. The people are really going suffering. And I know most of them and I managed quite a few buildings and I know the tenants they're all talking about. I mean, |
01:08:28.91 | Mike Monsava | They lost 20% in July. |
01:08:31.86 | Mike Monsava | The last 30% in July. |
01:08:35.15 | Mike Monsava | of their revenue compared to last year. |
01:08:37.77 | Mike Monsava | So, |
01:08:38.86 | Mike Monsava | I don't know how you're going to go about it. |
01:08:41.95 | Mike Monsava | But please do something. |
01:08:44.77 | Mike Monsava | That downtown needs some attention. |
01:08:48.58 | Mike Monsava | I, for one, I'm going around to find a good tenant for some of the building, some of the area that is vacant. |
01:08:56.97 | Mike Monsava | And I tried to bring him in. |
01:09:02.37 | Mike Monsava | when they see the disaster in downtown there, as everybody said, there's so many issues that needs to be addressed. So, |
01:09:13.19 | Mike Monsava | Whether it's the right approach or wrong approach, we need something to be done. |
01:09:19.60 | Mike Monsava | and you are sitting over here, you're responsible. |
01:09:23.97 | Mike Monsava | to arrange that. |
01:09:25.71 | Mike Monsava | Thank you. |
01:09:27.94 | City Clerk | Babette McDougal. |
01:09:35.48 | Unknown | Thank you for... |
01:09:36.59 | Unknown | allowing me this moment. |
01:09:39.40 | Unknown | Thank you. |
01:09:39.41 | Babette McDougall | I just want to say that everything that has been said so far on both sides of the room, I totally am in agreement with. |
01:09:47.68 | Babette McDougall | the pros and the cons, no question about it. |
01:09:52.59 | Babette McDougall | I am in favor of having the city find a way to step up. |
01:09:58.46 | Babette McDougall | I have spent the last two meetings saying, hey, I've been speaking in favor of this, but the city needs to step up. And what. |
01:10:07.44 | Babette McDougall | I don't like the idea of people trying to call out and intimidate others because they want to draw an emotion known as fear. |
01:10:14.34 | Babette McDougall | I think that is just so tacky. I mean, we're better than this. |
01:10:18.51 | Babette McDougall | but I definitely would not want to say thud. |
01:10:21.14 | Babette McDougall | I would never want you to think of me as a thud. |
01:10:23.56 | Babette McDougall | That's for sure. |
01:10:25.09 | Babette McDougall | So look. |
01:10:26.53 | Babette McDougall | something has to happen. What are the red flags here? The red flag is, I have now done the research, |
01:10:32.65 | Babette McDougall | that having a government entity step up fully 50% or having a government entity step up at all is extremely rare if non-existent. |
01:10:43.40 | Babette McDougall | That's number one. And when I hear from citizens, that's what they are concerned about. |
01:10:49.34 | Babette McDougall | Now, couple that with the fact that the city has so far failed to deliver risk assessment models. |
01:10:55.60 | Babette McDougall | Like, what if something goes south? |
01:10:57.93 | Babette McDougall | what if this high value geographic locale actually suffers an incident |
01:11:02.34 | Babette McDougall | What if? |
01:11:04.26 | Babette McDougall | What are you prepared to do to offset that? What will you be forced to offset if you don't think about it now? Because city and citizens are the same thing. So anything that the city goes on the hook for, it automatically accrues to the citizens, your constituents. And so far, you've been actually ignoring the majority of your constituents, I've learned, since July 4th. Hundreds of people have been imploring you. |
01:11:27.85 | Babette McDougall | to act in certain ways that you just blatantly disregard. Mr. Mayor, I'm sorry to say that, but it's true. |
01:11:34.43 | Babette McDougall | I think the reason why the last meeting ran so well is because the senior attorney was present the whole time. |
01:11:36.59 | City Clerk | Thank you very much. Next person is Lloyd Silverstein. |
01:11:47.86 | Lloyd Silverstein | Good evening, Mayor, Councilmembers. I had not planned to speak tonight, so I'm unprepared. I want to read you a little article here I just found this evening from the newspaper, and this was dated November 7th, 1946. My grandfather at the time was the president of the Chamber of Commerce. They were talking about putting in parking meters in Sausalito. My grandfather, a little wrong-sighted in this, was against it because he felt it would harm the city. And the city overruled him because they said it would be a big revenue generator each meter. |
01:12:19.74 | Lloyd Silverstein | would generate approximately $80 a year in revenue. |
01:12:23.32 | Lloyd Silverstein | So we've come a long way since then. |
01:12:25.36 | Lloyd Silverstein | I have a unique perspective on this. I am a property owner here in Sausalito as my family has been for |
01:12:33.31 | Lloyd Silverstein | 80 years. But I'm also a merchant, a business owner in San Francisco. And I founded our merchant association in Hayes Valley about six years ago. I was on the union square business improvement district for many years and saw how effective that was. Hayes Valley is an interesting dynamic. Half of our community is not in a community benefit district and half is. And I invite all of you to come over and take a look at Hayes Valley and see what Hayes Valley, which is basically three blocks long, looks like, |
01:13:02.33 | Lloyd Silverstein | East of golf street that's in the civic center CBD, the streets are clean. |
01:13:07.01 | Lloyd Silverstein | The streets are safe. The stores are full. |
01:13:09.40 | Lloyd Silverstein | The other two blocks, a little bit different. The streets are dirty. We have full-time police there to try and stave off the crime that happens there. And I've spent half of my days over the last six years trying to raise money to try and keep our community and our benefit district safe. |
01:13:29.72 | Lloyd Silverstein | Yep. |
01:13:30.11 | Lloyd Silverstein | to bring in that as part of us because we've really taken a hit. So I can see... |
01:13:35.26 | Lloyd Silverstein | across one street from another, the difference this makes. And I really encourage you if the tally is in our favor to vote for this. Thank you. |
01:13:44.67 | City Clerk | Now we have people on Zoom, Morgan Pierce. |
01:13:53.16 | Morgan Pierce | Good evening. |
01:13:53.33 | City Clerk | Can you hear me? |
01:13:53.84 | Morgan Pierce | me. |
01:13:54.58 | City Clerk | Yes, continue. |
01:13:55.46 | Morgan Pierce | Great. |
01:13:56.42 | Morgan Pierce | Good evening, Mayor Sobieski, Vice Mayor Cox, and members of City Council. My name is Morgan Pierce. I'm a resident of Sausalito, and I'm speaking to you this evening as president of Sausalito Beautiful. |
01:14:06.14 | Morgan Pierce | Like you, I'm eager to see the results of the voting for the PBID program, as I hope the majority of the business owners canvassed. |
01:14:12.23 | Morgan Pierce | will be in support of this endeavor. |
01:14:14.31 | Morgan Pierce | South Florida Beautiful has been an advocate for this program from its inception. We see it as a welcome opportunity for collaboration between local businesses and the city through a unique public-private partnership. |
01:14:24.33 | Morgan Pierce | It is this partnership that is critical to the program's function |
01:14:27.79 | Morgan Pierce | And the city's role as majority landowner validates their commitment to the effort |
01:14:31.28 | Morgan Pierce | and offers leadership and support |
01:14:33.24 | Morgan Pierce | that is critical to establishing trust |
01:14:35.55 | Morgan Pierce | and achieving success. |
01:14:37.41 | Morgan Pierce | I'd also like to clarify something. There may be some misconception that Sausalito Beautiful benefits materially from the implementation of a PBIT. We do not. However, our mission to beautify Sausalito and improve its public green spaces will benefit. |
01:14:50.91 | Morgan Pierce | that we are prepared to share our knowledge and our resources with the businesses and the city |
01:14:55.26 | Morgan Pierce | in the pursuit of these improvements. |
01:14:57.77 | Morgan Pierce | South Seattle and Brutiful encourages you to continue your support for the PMID program, and should the resulting votes be in its favor, we ask that you please approve its implementation. |
01:15:06.55 | Morgan Pierce | Thank you. |
01:15:09.28 | City Clerk | Okay, next speaker is Vicki Nichols. |
01:15:15.36 | Vicki Nichols | Good evening, Mayor Sobieski and council members. This has been a really interesting discussion. I particularly like the last... |
01:15:23.04 | Vicki Nichols | not Morgan's comment, but hello, Morgan, but the previous person with the Hayes Valley Association |
01:15:29.62 | Vicki Nichols | I was just going to say as a 40 plus year resident, this is not a new issue. |
01:15:34.18 | Vicki Nichols | chambers have been trying to |
01:15:36.06 | Vicki Nichols | revitalized downtown for a number of years. |
01:15:38.75 | Vicki Nichols | While I don't have any opposition and I'm not lobbying for one thing or another, I think |
01:15:43.42 | Vicki Nichols | You know, you can try anything once. I think there's legislation built into this if you find it's not successful. |
01:15:49.41 | Vicki Nichols | It can be either amended or undone. |
01:15:52.55 | Vicki Nichols | but I think it should move forward. But I want to add a different aspect. I'm hearing a lot of people that feel very emotional about this |
01:15:59.05 | Vicki Nichols | And I don't blame them. They're newer to the community. They're seeing the downtown not look its best. |
01:16:04.11 | Vicki Nichols | I don't know that this is going to be the be all fix all for everything. So I would encourage EDAC. |
01:16:09.66 | Vicki Nichols | to work with the owners down there, as Mike Monsef mentioned, to bring in |
01:16:14.88 | Vicki Nichols | Uh, |
01:16:15.74 | Vicki Nichols | tenants that will excite the residents to come downtown. |
01:16:20.94 | Vicki Nichols | You know, we have a lot of shops that are primarily oriented toward tourism. |
01:16:26.34 | Vicki Nichols | if there was something different that had more of an appeal. I think you start with the landlords. They're the ones that are gonna bring the businesses in |
01:16:36.19 | Vicki Nichols | If you have to give them some incentives or whatever, I think the mix of businesses down there is critical. |
01:16:42.08 | Vicki Nichols | for making this |
01:16:44.14 | Vicki Nichols | even more successful than just what you can do with your, your, um, |
01:16:48.04 | Vicki Nichols | business district. |
01:16:49.18 | Vicki Nichols | So thank you. And I appreciate all the good work. |
01:16:51.65 | Vicki Nichols | This is the |
01:16:52.64 | Vicki Nichols | most work and the most concrete, uh, |
01:16:56.07 | Vicki Nichols | up. |
01:16:56.71 | Vicki Nichols | process brought forth |
01:16:59.14 | Vicki Nichols | I think it has the most potential. So I hope it works out and it can be tried. |
01:17:03.63 | Vicki Nichols | But if it proves, you know, if it's not realistic and we can fix it, I would say Penaluma, it looks great. And that's an excellent example. We're working on our odds, our objective design standards now. |
01:17:20.94 | City Clerk | And that's our final speaker. |
01:17:22.49 | Mary Sobieski | for |
01:17:22.73 | City Clerk | THE PROBLEM. |
01:17:23.03 | Mary Sobieski | Look out. |
01:17:23.41 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
01:17:23.68 | Mary Sobieski | All right, we'll close public comment, and now we'll tally the ballots. |
01:17:31.19 | Phipps | Thank you very much, Mayor. |
01:17:32.15 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. |
01:17:34.51 | Mary Sobieski | I'm supposed to say some magic words. I'm closing the public hearing. |
01:17:37.58 | Mary Sobieski | And now we will tell the dots. |
01:17:40.31 | Phipps | Thank you very much, Mayor. We have prepared a ballot tally sheet for this meeting. What I will do is I will share that tally sheet in real time within the chamber on this screen up here. That will display, actually, let me just share that now. |
01:18:00.08 | Phipps | Thank you. As you can see here, the ballot sheet displays all APN numbers within the proposed district area. It contains the assessment values associated with each of the APNs. It has a space that is currently blank for ballot response, yay or nay. And when we put in a yes or no, that will reflect the assessments added to a support or opposition cut or split. And at the conclusion of the tallying of the ballots, we will have a final tally which supports the total assessment weighted by property between the support position and the opposition position. So with that, I would request that my colleague Maria Hernandez open each of the envelopes. I would request that she hands the opened envelope or ballot sheet to the city clerk. The city clerk will then read the APN number and how that particular ballot or APN has voted in connection with this district. And I will input the response into this table. We will do so until all ballots have been tallied. Thank you. |
01:19:18.01 | Phipps | And with that, we are going to open the first ballot. |
01:19:28.31 | Adrian Brinton | Brrrr. |
01:19:33.55 | City Clerk | APN number 065-131-04. |
01:19:42.42 | City Clerk | Okay, I have... |
01:19:42.73 | Phipps | Okay, I have located it. How did that property vote? |
01:19:45.19 | City Clerk | No. Hold on. |
01:19:47.98 | City Clerk | Yes, no. Sorry. |
01:19:58.37 | Vice Mayor Cox | Yeah. |
01:20:01.10 | Vice Mayor Cox | Community Development Director Phipps, may I suggest that the city clerk look at the vote and that someone else also validate the vote |
01:20:10.70 | Vice Mayor Cox | so that we have two people |
01:20:13.12 | Vice Mayor Cox | who are agreeing that the vote is yes or no. |
01:20:16.16 | City Clerk | I'll have Maria look at it. |
01:20:16.21 | Vice Mayor Cox | I'll have a... |
01:20:16.44 | Phipps | to the |
01:20:17.73 | Vice Mayor Cox | Thank you, just as a procedural protection. |
01:20:20.17 | Phipps | Yeah, appreciate that. Thank you, Vice Mayor. |
01:20:23.06 | City Clerk | APN number 065-063-25. |
01:20:29.56 | City Clerk | And me and Maria confirmed that they voted yes. |
01:20:35.38 | City Clerk | And just to backtrack on the previous one, Maria is looking at it and confirms that. |
01:20:40.86 | City Clerk | It was a no vote. |
01:20:53.48 | City Clerk | APN number 065-171-02. And Maria Hernandez and I confirmed that they voted no. |
01:21:14.97 | City Clerk | We have multiple APN numbers on this one. There are two. |
01:21:19.49 | City Clerk | We have 065-071-26. And the other one, do you want the other one? Or you give me, OK. And the vote on that one was yes. Maria and I have confirmed. And then the other APN numbers is 065-071-27. And again, that is a yes vote. |
01:21:43.20 | Phipps | Thank you. That has been Tell. |
01:21:44.68 | City Clerk | TELLING. |
01:21:54.18 | City Clerk | APN number 065-133-09. Maria and I confirm that it is a yes vote. |
01:22:16.42 | City Clerk | APN number 065-132-04. And Maria and I do confirm that it is a no vote. |
01:22:42.24 | City Clerk | APN number 065-132-14. |
01:22:48.89 | City Clerk | Maria and I do confirm that it is a no vote. |
01:23:09.31 | City Clerk | APN number 065-071-01. Maria and I do confirm that this is a yes vote. |
01:23:35.59 | City Clerk | APN number 065-133-11. Maria and I do confirm that this is a yes vote. |
01:23:57.44 | City Clerk | APN number 065-133-17. Maria and I do confirm that this is a yes vote. |
01:24:18.95 | City Clerk | APN number 065-071-02. Maria and I do confirm that this is a no vote. |
01:24:41.97 | City Clerk | We have multiple APN numbers. We'll start with there are two. The first is 065-131-01, and that is a yes vote. |
01:24:56.80 | City Clerk | The second APN number is 065-133-12. And Maria and I do confirm that this is a yes vote. |
01:25:17.80 | City Clerk | APN number 065-063-24. Maria and I do confirm that this is a no vote. |
01:25:40.68 | City Clerk | We have multiple APN numbers here. There are two. First being 065-131-16. Maria and I do confirm that this is a yes vote. |
01:25:54.21 | City Clerk | Second APN numbers is 06 5131-17. |
01:26:02.24 | City Clerk | Maria and I do confirm that this is a yes vote. |
01:26:21.16 | City Clerk | APN number 065-133-19. Maria and I do confirm that this is a yes vote. |
01:26:44.80 | City Clerk | APN number 065-133-18. Maria and I do confirm that this is a yes vote. |
01:27:08.02 | City Clerk | APN number 065-131-14. Maria and I do confirm that this is a no vote. |
01:27:31.41 | City Clerk | Okay. APN number 065-131-09. Maria and I do confirm that this is a yes vote. |
01:27:52.74 | City Clerk | There are multiple APN numbers in this one, in this ballot. There are three. We'll go with the first one, 065-131-02. And it is a yes vote. Maria and I do confirm. Next APN number is 065-131-03. And again, Maria and I do confirm that this is a yes vote. |
01:28:20.32 | City Clerk | And the third and final APN number on this ballot is 065-133-08. And Maria and I do confirm that this is a yes vote. |
01:28:44.85 | City Clerk | APN number 065-133-24. Maria and I do confirm that this is a yes vote. |
01:29:08.29 | City Clerk | APN number 065-132-16. Maria and I do confirm that this is a yes vote. |
01:29:32.44 | City Clerk | APN number 065-132-19. Maria and I do confirm that this is a yes vote. |
01:29:58.65 | City Clerk | APN number 065-131-07. Maria and I do confirm that this is a yes vote. |
01:30:14.68 | Unknown | Thank you. |
01:30:25.09 | City Clerk | APN number 065-131-08. Maria and I do confirm that this is a yes vote. |
01:30:48.29 | City Clerk | APN number 065-131-03. Maria and I do confirm that this is a yes vote. |
01:31:12.78 | City Clerk | APN number 065-172-132. Sorry, let me start over. APN number 065-172-13. Maria and I do confirm that this is a yes vote. |
01:31:42.95 | City Clerk | APN number 065-071-24. Maria and I do confirm that this is a yes vote. |
01:32:05.48 | City Clerk | APN number 065-133-10. Maria and I do confirm that this is a yes vote. |
01:32:34.99 | City Clerk | APN number 065-131-10. Maria and I do confirm that this is a no volt. |
01:33:03.61 | City Clerk | APN number 065-133-25. Maria and I do confirm that this is a yes vote. |
01:33:26.28 | City Clerk | APN number 065-072-13. Maria and I do confirm that this is a yes vote. |
01:33:51.71 | City Clerk | There are multiple APN numbers on this ballot. There are two, the first being 065-063-45. Maria and I do confirm that they voted yes. |
01:34:13.86 | Unknown | Thank you. |
01:34:14.25 | City Clerk | The second APN number on this ballot is 065-063-46. Maria and I do confirm that they voted yes. |
01:34:41.62 | City Clerk | APN number 065-133-11. Maria and I do confirm that they voted, that this is a yes vote. |
01:34:56.15 | City Clerk | Last one. |
01:34:56.52 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
01:34:57.60 | City Clerk | Okay, last and final ballot. |
01:35:05.38 | City Clerk | APN number 065-171-01. |
01:35:12.77 | City Clerk | Maria and I do confirm that this is a yes vote. |
01:35:18.75 | City Clerk | There are. |
01:35:19.14 | Phipps | normal. |
01:35:19.52 | City Clerk | no more ballots to be counted |
01:35:20.98 | Phipps | it. |
01:35:22.68 | Phipps | Thank you very much, City Clerk. If I could just briefly summarize the results of the ballot tally, we are showing an 87.42 percentage of support to the tune of an assessed amount of $82,355.76, and an opposition percentage of 12.58 to the tune of $11,850.90, as far as the assessment amount goes. |
01:35:47.93 | Phipps | Thank you very much. |
01:35:48.11 | Vice Mayor Cox | BIRDS. |
01:35:48.74 | Vice Mayor Cox | And Community Development Director Phipps, can you just clarify, the city did not participate in this voting is that right. |
01:35:56.38 | Phipps | Thank you for the clarification, Vice Mayor. You are absolutely correct. The city has not voted in the ballot process. |
01:36:05.05 | Mary Sobieski | Great. As director of hips, do you have any other report or is it now back in the council? |
01:36:10.61 | Phipps | Nope, that does it for me, Mayor. I'll put it back to you. |
01:36:14.10 | Mary Sobieski | We're bringing it back up here to the dais. And so we have a thing to act upon. I'll make a motion to... |
01:36:22.69 | Mary Sobieski | adopt the resolution that is in the staff report for the formation of the downtown Sausalito property business improvement district that is a resolution of intent number three four dash two zero two four |
01:36:37.03 | Councilmember Hoffman | I can. |
01:36:37.39 | Mary Sobieski | Your second it's been made and properly seconded. So now we can have discussion on the motion. |
01:36:43.09 | Councilmember Hoffman | I've got some over. |
01:36:43.19 | Mary Sobieski | Councilmember Hoffman. |
01:36:43.95 | Councilmember Hoffman | I have a question for Director Phipps. Director Phipps, how many properties are in the district other than the city properties? |
01:36:57.77 | Phipps | just give me one moment |
01:36:59.17 | Babette McDougall | Sure. |
01:37:06.19 | Councilmember Kelman | And council member, is your question also going to relate to what happens to those who didn't vote? Yeah, that's my next question. |
01:37:12.94 | Phipps | So we have within the district 42 unique landowners, 68 parcels in total. There are approximately, or there are 56 parcels in zone one. Part of that 56 is accounted for by a few city-owned parcels. So I would say around 50 unique parcels within benefit zone one. |
01:37:36.87 | Councilmember Hoffman | within a year. |
01:37:39.44 | Councilmember Hoffman | Great. And how many responses did we have on the balloting? |
01:37:43.11 | Phipps | Sure. We received 34 ballots as of 4.51 p.m. today. I don't believe we received any additional ballots after that. I will note that certain landowners, and as Walford City Clerk read out, certain landowners on multiple parcels. So that number of 34 ballots received translates to something like 40-ish total parcels weighing in in the process out of the estimated 50. |
01:38:16.97 | Councilmember Hoffman | Yes, and can you please read out the number of yeses and the number of no's that we just balloted? |
01:38:24.69 | City Clerk | Just for verification, I'd like to note that at 5.05 p.m. when I went back into the office, there weren't any further ballots after the close of the office. |
01:38:32.59 | Phipps | Thank you, Mr. City Clerk. I'm going to do a quick tally of yeses and noes based on the ballot tally sheet, so please bear with me. |
01:38:54.73 | Phipps | I see 30 yes. Ballots. |
01:39:10.06 | Phipps | and eight no ballots. And just to clarify, again, a single ballot may contain multiple parcels because they have the same ownership. |
01:39:20.80 | Phipps | Thank you. |
01:39:24.89 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. So discussion, who wishes to be recognized? We have a motion on the floor that's been seconded. Is there anyone who wishes to be recognized? |
01:39:33.29 | Mary Sobieski | Otherwise, I'll call the question if there's not any discussion. Go ahead, Councilmember Kelman. |
01:39:38.45 | Councilmember Kelman | So I just really, really want to thank everybody for such an open, honest, candid conversation about the state of our downtown. |
01:39:48.01 | Councilmember Kelman | This is the seventh hearing we've had on the bid. |
01:39:53.36 | Councilmember Kelman | And I think this is the first time we had a really honest conversation about |
01:40:00.83 | Councilmember Kelman | the lack of some maintenance down there and some issues as reported by visitors and businesses alike. And I just really... |
01:40:07.78 | Councilmember Kelman | It meant a lot to me, and I want to thank you for that. |
01:40:11.29 | Councilmember Kelman | And maybe we need a bid, and I suspect it sounds like we will try that tonight. |
01:40:16.56 | Councilmember Kelman | We for sure need an audit of our downtown maintenance. |
01:40:21.22 | Councilmember Kelman | And I want to just frame it that way because I don't know this is going to solve all our problems. |
01:40:26.08 | Councilmember Kelman | I don't want anybody going into it thinking it will. It sounds to me like we have a council prioritization component to this as well, and we need to do our work. I heard one of the business owners say, I want better garbage cans, clean sidewalks, planters with plants, trees alive and vibrant, stickers and graffiti removed. |
01:40:45.08 | Councilmember Kelman | Yeah, I want that too. And it's long overdue that we pay attention to that. |
01:40:50.61 | Councilmember Kelman | I want to acknowledge California has over 100 property-based improvement districts. |
01:40:55.96 | Councilmember Kelman | and that having a government entity step up the way we are is rare. I was not able to find another example of this. The average contribution by host city to a PBID does vary significantly based on the specific services and enhancements planned for the district. Typically, |
01:41:13.88 | Councilmember Kelman | For the record, both cities provide contributions through in-kind support, such as city services, which are public safety maintenance and beautification projects, rather than direct financial contributions. For example, the downtown PBID in San Diego and the downtown Burbank PBID focus on supplemental services that are beyond what the city typically provides, primarily through assessments and property owners, rather than significant direct city contributions. In Petaluma, |
01:41:40.56 | Councilmember Kelman | The city's contributions to the property-based improvement district primarily include in-kind support, such as staff time and materials, rather than direct financial contributions. And I'll also note with interest that as Capitola was mentioned, it sounds like they had a much smaller budget and were able to do a lot with that budget. |
01:42:00.20 | Councilmember Kelman | What I also want to take the opportunity to offer is that we really do need to do something differently downtown. |
01:42:07.06 | Councilmember Kelman | We probably have close to a million cyclists that come through Sausalito every weekend. |
01:42:13.57 | Councilmember Kelman | and we have fought against them for years. We have Waterfront and we have the GGNRA. |
01:42:18.97 | Councilmember Kelman | We should be an outdoor community. We should be a vibrant outdoor community. |
01:42:23.86 | Councilmember Kelman | Yep, we have no waterfront access downtown. |
01:42:27.15 | Councilmember Kelman | We have no bike services downtown. |
01:42:30.33 | Councilmember Kelman | Look at Tam Junction. Look at Hookfish on any weekend. It is jam-packed and it is not cheap. |
01:42:36.64 | Councilmember Kelman | Look at Junction, look at the Fairfax beer gardens, vibrant outdoor restaurants. |
01:42:41.04 | Councilmember Kelman | I mention this because this may be one step that is needed, but it is not the only step. And I hope that if we move in this direction, it becomes part of a bigger project. |
01:42:50.07 | Councilmember Kelman | I mentioned it is worth noting how much time the city council has spent on this. This is the seventh meeting. Our top initiatives from the strategic planning session we held several months ago, |
01:42:59.96 | Councilmember Kelman | Number one, money reserve policies, we looked at that. Sewer consolidation, we looked at that. Property lease philosophies, haven't gotten there yet. |
01:43:07.62 | Councilmember Kelman | Options for potential catastrophic insurance carriers, haven't gotten there yet. Hillside and ordinance, haven't gotten there yet. The P bid was 10th on the list. |
01:43:18.30 | Councilmember Kelman | Yep, we brought it back. |
01:43:19.94 | Councilmember Kelman | And I think it's time that we as a council have to reprioritize some of what we're doing so that some of these issues that we're dealing with tonight through a PBID get addressed in a more proactive fashion. |
01:43:29.63 | Councilmember Kelman | I am gonna vote for it tonight because I do wanna give it a chance. |
01:43:34.18 | Councilmember Kelman | I don't think it's the cure-all, but I am so buoyed by the number of both residents and business owners who are here tonight. But I do wanna see some specific guardrails, and I'm gonna list those now for consideration from my colleagues. |
01:43:48.61 | Councilmember Kelman | I did a quick search in the management district plan for the word report or reporting. I did not see any requirements. So I think we do want that report once per quarter. And we're going to be tracking very clearly. And everybody seems open to that. So why not do it? |
01:44:03.21 | Councilmember Kelman | I think the city should have a representative vote equal to 50%. |
01:44:07.38 | Councilmember Kelman | That's how much we're putting in. It's extremely unusual. Let's go for it, guys. We're partners in this together. |
01:44:13.10 | Councilmember Kelman | A public distribution of the steering committee meeting notices. I know it's a Brown Act. I don't remember ever seeing the prior ones. |
01:44:21.26 | Councilmember Kelman | So let's just make sure we double down on that public notice. |
01:44:24.42 | Councilmember Kelman | We really do need to define what special services are. That's not me saying that that's a requirement of the P bid The P bids are for special services above and beyond what cities provide I do think we need to cross-reference for the parks and rec budget. I want to make sure we're not duplicating some of our spend. I love the idea of an at-large citizen representative and |
01:44:46.73 | Councilmember Kelman | I already mentioned the audit of the downtown maintenance, and I would be remiss if I didn't flag a little bit of the oddities around the engineering report, which came very late in the process, not until May, after the fifth meeting. And I think that engineer has had some interesting prior experiences that we should be aware of. So those are my comments for consideration. Again, thank you all. This was a really candid, insightful conversation. I really appreciate it. |
01:45:17.93 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you, Councilmember Kellman, who wishes to be recognized next. Vice Mayor Cox. |
01:45:24.38 | Vice Mayor Cox | Thank you, Mayor. |
01:45:25.90 | Vice Mayor Cox | I heartily endorse everything Councilmember Kelman |
01:45:30.97 | Vice Mayor Cox | Um, |
01:45:33.12 | Vice Mayor Cox | recommended. I'm not sure that the |
01:45:36.22 | Vice Mayor Cox | City's representative vote should be 50%. I'm... |
01:45:40.19 | Vice Mayor Cox | You know, I really, |
01:45:42.77 | Vice Mayor Cox | commend the business owners for stepping up and the energy that they're |
01:45:47.31 | Vice Mayor Cox | investing in this. |
01:45:48.91 | Vice Mayor Cox | So I'd like to hear from fellow council members about the city's representative vote, but I endorse everything else that council member. |
01:45:57.35 | Vice Mayor Cox | Kelly Redder, she's a great question about what's going on in the chat. |
01:46:07.78 | Vice Mayor Cox | in the staff report or the resolution |
01:46:10.38 | Vice Mayor Cox | Absolutely, we need to have quarterly reports. The meetings should be Brown Act meetings. |
01:46:17.68 | Vice Mayor Cox | Um, |
01:46:19.29 | Vice Mayor Cox | I do want to respond. We heard a rather pointed comment from a member of the public that there were all these questions about the engineer's report, and the engineer's report was confusing and unclear. |
01:46:31.13 | Vice Mayor Cox | As Councilmember Kelman pointed out, this is the third time we've seen the engineers report and so |
01:46:36.99 | Vice Mayor Cox | There's been plenty of time for any member of the public who had |
01:46:40.84 | Vice Mayor Cox | questions. |
01:46:41.78 | Vice Mayor Cox | regarding the engineers report to |
01:46:44.45 | Vice Mayor Cox | Ask. |
01:46:44.99 | Vice Mayor Cox | those questions of us or of staff. |
01:46:47.42 | Vice Mayor Cox | or even of the |
01:46:48.85 | Vice Mayor Cox | of our consultant and I've not seen any of those questions. |
01:46:53.05 | Vice Mayor Cox | Same thing with respect to the list of steering committee members. The members were read out. I know Council Member Hoffman wrote them down. |
01:47:01.73 | Vice Mayor Cox | Um, |
01:47:02.52 | Vice Mayor Cox | But anytime someone wants to know who's on a committee, all they have to do is ask. |
01:47:07.77 | Vice Mayor Cox | Um, |
01:47:08.87 | Vice Mayor Cox | members of our community asked me about two different standing committee |
01:47:13.91 | Vice Mayor Cox | members. |
01:47:15.19 | Vice Mayor Cox | And, um, |
01:47:16.43 | Vice Mayor Cox | the city manager is going to tell us who's on those committees later this evening. So we're very interested in being transparent. All people have to do. |
01:47:25.54 | Vice Mayor Cox | is ask. |
01:47:26.72 | Vice Mayor Cox | um, |
01:47:27.92 | Vice Mayor Cox | And I'm encouraged that if for some reason we believe the bid is not working, we don't have to continue it even for the entirety |
01:47:36.17 | Vice Mayor Cox | of the initial five-year term. |
01:47:37.79 | Vice Mayor Cox | And so for these reasons and the reasons enunciated by Councilmember Kelman, I also am in favor |
01:47:43.39 | Vice Mayor Cox | of giving this concept |
01:47:45.70 | Vice Mayor Cox | a shot. I would like to figure out a, there's already been a motion in a second. |
01:47:51.48 | Vice Mayor Cox | And so I'd like to separately ensure that we memorialize the direction to staff |
01:47:57.04 | Vice Mayor Cox | that |
01:48:00.39 | Vice Mayor Cox | There'll be quarterly reports that the meetings be Brown Act meetings that the special services the city will be provide will provide be specifically defined. |
01:48:10.12 | Vice Mayor Cox | And separately, I do endorse |
01:48:12.64 | Vice Mayor Cox | um |
01:48:13.58 | Vice Mayor Cox | an audit of the downtown maintenance. Some of the things I heard tonight are not the first time I've heard them. |
01:48:20.25 | Vice Mayor Cox | regarding the rats |
01:48:21.72 | Vice Mayor Cox | regarding having to avoid the rats attacking the garbage at closing time for some of our later evening businesses. |
01:48:29.73 | Vice Mayor Cox | So it is an issue. And I see the city attorney has |
01:48:34.96 | Vice Mayor Cox | turned on |
01:48:36.21 | Vice Mayor Cox | His camera, meaning he has a response, hopefully, to something that I said. |
01:48:40.26 | Sergio | Yeah, I'm turning on my camera to address some of the comments made by the council members regarding the management district plan and the issues relating to the governance of the owners association. |
01:48:52.88 | Sergio | At this particular meeting, the Council cannot make changes to the management district plan. You can, however, make changes to the proposed assessments, the amount. Additionally, you can make some changes to the boundaries of the district and you can choose whether or not to adopt the resolution information. |
01:49:11.58 | Sergio | That being said, |
01:49:15.07 | Sergio | You know, the council did adopt the management district plan as part of the |
01:49:20.63 | Sergio | resolution of intention to form the district. |
01:49:23.26 | Sergio | That plan requires already that the meetings of the owners association be compliant with the Brown Act. |
01:49:29.50 | Sergio | Additionally, |
01:49:32.14 | Sergio | There are governance requirements related to reporting in the PBID law. The council is required by law to receive a report from the owner's association, which they prepare. |
01:49:44.60 | Sergio | every fiscal year that details the activities. With respect to the special benefits, |
01:49:51.96 | Sergio | both Prop 218 and the PBID law of 94 requires that the engineers or sport spell out exactly what the benefits are and that the owners association is only allowed |
01:50:03.05 | Unknown | is a |
01:50:05.28 | Sergio | to |
01:50:06.05 | Sergio | use the money generated by these assessments for those purposes that are set forth expressly |
01:50:11.42 | Sergio | in the management district plan. |
01:50:13.44 | Sergio | So annually, you should be receiving a report indicating compliance with the requirements of the management district plan. That being said, you can request that staff provide more frequent reporting than required by law. And there are some other directions that counsel has given that staff can certainly implement without requiring changes to the management district plan. |
01:50:35.70 | Vice Mayor Cox | May... |
01:50:36.14 | Mary Sobieski | I just want to make sure Vice Mayor's finished with her comments. I'm... |
01:50:38.93 | Vice Mayor Cox | I'm finished. I want to just... |
01:50:42.01 | Vice Mayor Cox | make sure that |
01:50:43.33 | Vice Mayor Cox | the clerk or the city manager has in mind some of the direction that we've given outside of the adoption of the resolution. |
01:50:51.36 | Mary Sobieski | Do you want to be mindful of giving everyone a chance to speak? |
01:50:54.35 | Councilmember Kelman | It's a clarification of the city attorney. I'll be quick. So my understanding of the state law, Sergio, is that the city retains oversight and final approval authority over the budget and activities. Can we, through that authority, request monthly or quarterly reports? Because the statutory requirement you articulated is only an annual report. |
01:50:56.09 | Mary Sobieski | Please go ahead. |
01:51:14.50 | Sergio | Thank you. |
01:51:14.60 | Fred Moore | Thank you. |
01:51:14.65 | Councilmember Kelman | to me. |
01:51:14.82 | Sergio | Uh, |
01:51:16.39 | Sergio | Correct you can request additional reporting from the owners association, additionally, you can request additional reporting from the city representative will be participating in the owners association. So you know again it's it's a question of how frequently the Council wants reporting on the activities of the owner association be brought for the Council. |
01:51:38.24 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you, City Attorney. Who wishes to be recognized next? Okay, Councilmember Hoffman. |
01:51:44.10 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
01:51:44.98 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. So, to be clear, I'm not against business improvement districts, and I think they've been used effectively in other towns. |
01:51:55.25 | Councilmember Hoffman | have not been supportive of this one because of the way that it was presented to the city council and primarily. |
01:52:00.18 | Councilmember Hoffman | that it was um run by a steering committee apparently that that was not appointed by the council that nobody knew who it was until i asked at some point at a public meeting for our um our finance sorry our economic director to read off the names so i didn't think that that was um fair or appropriate in the way that it was |
01:52:21.81 | Councilmember Hoffman | um, rolled out and I had questions about, and that underline, undermine the credibility, frankly, |
01:52:27.50 | Councilmember Hoffman | of the whole effort the other lack of specificity and how the money was going to be used and this the um |
01:52:34.54 | Councilmember Hoffman | in addition to the |
01:52:36.65 | Councilmember Hoffman | fiscal analysis that we received from our finance director. So, |
01:52:41.34 | Councilmember Hoffman | You know, I don't, |
01:52:43.61 | Councilmember Hoffman | in this time of significant deficit. So we're in about a 1.23 |
01:52:51.41 | Councilmember Hoffman | million dollar ongoing deficit. So these are hard costs. They're not going to go away. |
01:52:56.85 | Councilmember Hoffman | And frankly, they come from the failure to effectively manage what the city is doing. |
01:53:02.75 | Councilmember Hoffman | and not changing that habit |
01:53:05.25 | Councilmember Hoffman | is going to keep us into deficit. |
01:53:07.54 | Councilmember Hoffman | And so any priority that we have that comes before the city council, any question that comes before the city council, |
01:53:13.08 | Councilmember Hoffman | that has to do with the spend, |
01:53:14.87 | Councilmember Hoffman | we have to look at it through that lens. Is it going to bring revenue? |
01:53:18.92 | Councilmember Hoffman | Or is it going to further our deficits? |
01:53:21.10 | Councilmember Hoffman | There's no question. |
01:53:22.82 | Councilmember Hoffman | This spend is going to further our deficit. We are currently in deficit. |
01:53:27.49 | Councilmember Hoffman | This year... |
01:53:28.59 | Councilmember Hoffman | This is not a budgeted item. So we will be in another... |
01:53:32.89 | Councilmember Hoffman | 117,000 this year. |
01:53:35.96 | Councilmember Hoffman | Um, |
01:53:36.82 | Councilmember Hoffman | in deficit that will drive our deficit further. |
01:53:40.10 | Councilmember Hoffman | And when you look at the return on investment, which is what I was looking at, |
01:53:44.47 | Councilmember Hoffman | After five years and $650,000, $750, $715, our return is going to be $156. $156,334. Now that's an estimate. |
01:53:57.34 | Councilmember Hoffman | Some might say that's an underestimate at a 1% growth. |
01:54:01.17 | Councilmember Hoffman | Other people might say it's an overestimate if you look at some of the wide |
01:54:05.65 | Councilmember Hoffman | wide swings we've had in our economy in the past five years and before that the past 10 years. So |
01:54:12.60 | Councilmember Hoffman | This is my perspective. |
01:54:14.39 | Councilmember Hoffman | And I think this is, you know, the lens through with which I look at matters that come before the city council. There's some other red flags on this that that came up, you know, with the very first meeting in December, which this remark consistently, not consistently, sorry, substantially different from what we thought we were going to get when we told |
01:54:38.48 | Councilmember Hoffman | the the eat our EDAC group to move forward with assessing across Sausalito about where we might have a business improvement district. |
01:54:47.29 | Councilmember Hoffman | At no time did we understand prior to that December meeting that it was going to be the city was going to pay 50 percent. |
01:54:52.81 | Councilmember Hoffman | This is a, this is. |
01:54:54.52 | Councilmember Hoffman | a, |
01:54:56.10 | Councilmember Hoffman | drastic departure from other |
01:54:58.87 | Councilmember Hoffman | business improvement districts, as Councilmember Kelman talked about, |
01:55:02.12 | Councilmember Hoffman | The Petaluma Downtown Business District that we talked about tonight, their budget in 2022 is reported $63,000 annually. |
01:55:12.17 | Councilmember Hoffman | And that's with no... |
01:55:13.90 | Councilmember Hoffman | That's with no contribution from the city of Petaluma. |
01:55:17.11 | Councilmember Hoffman | The Bethesda, Maryland, which has been talked about at various points throughout this process, |
01:55:22.49 | Councilmember Hoffman | as a model. |
01:55:24.30 | Councilmember Hoffman | That is a program that's administered by the county, by Montgomery County. |
01:55:29.58 | Councilmember Hoffman | Their annual revenue is $1.7 billion. |
01:55:33.72 | Councilmember Hoffman | The county created a program to support unincorporated downtowns, which Bethesda is one of them. |
01:55:39.65 | Councilmember Hoffman | They allocate about $3.4 million in 2023 directly to Bethesda, Maryland. |
01:55:48.26 | Councilmember Hoffman | against |
01:55:50.25 | Councilmember Hoffman | an annual return on investment, well not return on investment, but annual property tax from that district of little less than a million dollars. So in San Diego, Little Italy, we've talked about that numerous times. |
01:56:02.39 | Councilmember Hoffman | in this that was a district that was formed in 1996 the bid funding for that district was 116 000 |
01:56:13.47 | Councilmember Hoffman | And so... |
01:56:14.54 | Councilmember Hoffman | And that was in 2023. That was 5% of the funding. |
01:56:17.88 | Councilmember Hoffman | for Little Italy came from their bid. There's no information online about what the breakdown is from the city of San Diego, but we all know, the revenues of San Diego far outstrip Sausalito. |
01:56:32.20 | Councilmember Hoffman | The other red flags are very fuzzy justifications for what the spend is gonna be annually. So 30%, I think for overhead and administrative costs, marketing budget, which is, I don't think the 60% or 70% of the overall budget, are these things that are priorities for the city of Sausalito. Yes, revenue is important to us, |
01:56:59.69 | Councilmember Hoffman | But we have a financial analysis that doesn't really hold up with whether or not this is a priority spend for Sausalito in our time of present deficit. So these are some of the reasons that I am skeptical about this particular bid, not bids in general. I'm surprised to hear is nowhere in the staff report, nowhere do we know that we could have lowered the assessment tonight. We have the option to lower the assessment. |
01:57:26.86 | Councilmember Hoffman | So. |
01:57:27.91 | Councilmember Hoffman | That would alleviate a lot of my concerns about this, to lower the city's assessment to something that's comparable to what |
01:57:35.06 | Councilmember Hoffman | what other cities are doing or what other districts are doing |
01:57:39.81 | Councilmember Hoffman | would, I think, alleviate a lot of the concern and concern |
01:57:44.31 | Councilmember Hoffman | confidence in this that people have. So, and frankly, it would allow |
01:57:50.10 | Councilmember Hoffman | you know, |
01:57:51.77 | Councilmember Hoffman | in a better way, I think, for the bid if it's formed to come back and show us a success. But at this point, I'm still skeptical about this particular bid and the way it was formed and particularly the |
01:58:06.91 | Councilmember Hoffman | particularly the breakdown of assessment. And certainly 100% agree that if we do go forward, |
01:58:12.64 | Councilmember Hoffman | the way to it has to be a 50% vote from the city. |
01:58:16.02 | Councilmember Hoffman | I sat on a, |
01:58:17.59 | Councilmember Hoffman | Richardson Bay Regional Agency for |
01:58:20.49 | Councilmember Hoffman | three years or two years before we had to withdraw because |
01:58:24.20 | Councilmember Hoffman | of the. |
01:58:25.15 | Councilmember Hoffman | we were contributing about 37% |
01:58:28.27 | Councilmember Hoffman | We had an equal vote with the other five members on RBRA. They consistently outvoted us and made decisions that had a negative impact on Sausalito. So I know that |
01:58:38.41 | Councilmember Hoffman | If the contributions are off, |
01:58:40.42 | Councilmember Hoffman | and the votes are equal. |
01:58:42.02 | Councilmember Hoffman | That is not a good representation model for anybody that's contributing. So anyway, those are my thoughts. |
01:58:50.87 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you, Council Member Hoffman. Council Member Blastham. |
01:58:53.33 | Councilmember Blaustein | Sure. Thank you, Mayor. And thank you again to all of the community members who joined us for the seventh hearing on our business improvement district. Really appreciate the discussion and the passion and a lot of the comments that were brought up. |
01:59:06.22 | Councilmember Blaustein | with regards to the state of our downtown concerns from our business community. |
01:59:10.39 | Councilmember Blaustein | And look, I could spend time arguing every fiscal point, making the comments regarding our spend, that we agreed with EDAC, that we wouldn't have a marketing budget, that we would get rid of the CDA spend, blah, blah, blah. But what I really want to focus on, and the reason that I'm so supportive of this BID is because the way it was formed was from our merchants and from the people in our community who are responsible for 50% plus of our general fund. And I hear comparisons to other communities, and I understand that there might be concern |
01:59:40.48 | Councilmember Blaustein | about the city's contribution |
01:59:42.82 | Councilmember Blaustein | But I would remind everyone again that the business community |
01:59:46.50 | Councilmember Blaustein | partnered with us to encourage an increase in our TOT to 14%, which is one of the highest in the region. |
01:59:52.21 | Councilmember Blaustein | The business community, we made a lot of promises to for a number of years, and they seem to be consistently let down. And they came back to us and said, hey, please believe in us. We want to tax ourselves and we want your help in doing that. And I've heard folks say I'm from the dais and generally, you know, isn't that the job of a DPW to clean up our parks? Shouldn't our parks and rec already be doing that? |
02:00:14.19 | Councilmember Blaustein | And I see this as a continued contribution from the city to further improving our parks and further cleaning our streets and continuing to do our job as a community to improve our downtown and make it a place that people really want to go to. And I'm really grateful that we have a business community that wants to tax themselves and give us this opportunity to try for five years and to see what happens. And I think that this is going to be and could be a really great thing. And I appreciate the concerns about tracking and I would support all of Councilmember Kelman's comments and the vice mayor's comments about having more reporting, having a park and rec audit of our budget so we're not doubly spending because that would be a mistake and let's be thoughtful about how we do spend this money. But guys, the people that are going to be sitting on this committee are the people sitting in this room with us right now. And the people that we know and the merchants who have served our downtown for decades. You know, we heard from Lloyd Silverstein's property manager since 1947, reading from his father's Chamber of Commerce letter. And, you know, Cass Green, who shows up for every meeting and people that are really stalwarts of our community. So I have a lot of trust in that this will be a transparent process, and it'll be a good investment. So I welcome the amendments from Council Member Kelman, and... |
02:01:29.59 | Councilmember Blaustein | But I, I, |
02:01:30.86 | Councilmember Blaustein | Don't know that I necessarily support changing the percentage of vote. I would continue to open that conversation, but I am going to be voting in support of the PBIT. |
02:01:40.19 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you, Councilmember Blostein. So, |
02:01:43.97 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. |
02:01:44.09 | Mary Sobieski | It's been a long journey. I also just want to echo Councilmember Kelman's specific points. I support the quarterly reporting. |
02:01:53.20 | Mary Sobieski | the audit of downtown services |
02:01:58.11 | Mary Sobieski | having the meetings be Brown Act, support all those. I also support the qualitative goal. It's a message really that indeed, |
02:02:04.84 | Mary Sobieski | one of our competitive advantages as a town is our location. And it would be great if the bid could support some of the activities that the council member had articulated, like the mountain biking and the access to the water. Those would be phenomenal things. It's those things like that, that make me think this bid has a real chance because there's some real low hanging fruit to be transformational. Uh, |
02:02:30.92 | Mary Sobieski | Change is hard. This has been a real slog of a lot of meetings because there's so much skepticism. |
02:02:37.13 | Mary Sobieski | in elements of the community. And I get it and I'm sympathetic to it. It has a root someplace, comes from somewhere. People of good heart and experience are skeptical and they've seen things fail, I guess. And they've seen cronyism and they've seen... |
02:02:52.97 | Mary Sobieski | ill will, |
02:02:54.35 | Mary Sobieski | uh, |
02:02:55.65 | Mary Sobieski | I haven't been around Sausalito as long as many members in the audience. So I can't speak to where this anger comes from or the cynicism or the skepticism. But I do know that if we don't do anything different, nothing will change. |
02:03:11.10 | Mary Sobieski | I think change is hard and it happens step by step. |
02:03:15.18 | Mary Sobieski | trusting step. |
02:03:16.49 | Mary Sobieski | by trusting step. |
02:03:18.28 | Mary Sobieski | And I know we don't have unanimity on this council about this, but I do think that this is a step towards trust. And it, I believe that as. |
02:03:28.49 | Mary Sobieski | Council member Blaustein said, we know who you all are. You are the people who feed us and sell us things and give us a place to go. And... |
02:03:39.44 | Mary Sobieski | I witnessed at the beginning of this process that that same skepticism |
02:03:44.10 | Mary Sobieski | And anger. |
02:03:45.50 | Mary Sobieski | that were in some elements of the community were in the hearts of some of the now proponents of the BID. |
02:03:53.67 | Mary Sobieski | Literally, some of them were very negative on the business improvement district. And I would ask them why, curious, and they would explain to me a hurt, an insult, an offense that they viewed came from the city. |
02:04:06.44 | Mary Sobieski | or came from residents on the Hill. |
02:04:08.98 | Mary Sobieski | directed towards them in some prior year. |
02:04:11.81 | Mary Sobieski | Maybe it was around what council member Baustein said, the implicit agreement they thought they had when our TOT tax was raised, that some portion of that would be used to market the town. |
02:04:22.83 | Mary Sobieski | Now, |
02:04:23.61 | Mary Sobieski | I would not have entered into agreement that wasn't written down, but that was the handshake agreement that they felt they had with the city and felt offended by. |
02:04:31.00 | Mary Sobieski | Uh, |
02:04:32.69 | Mary Sobieski | But in the conversations I had with them, often they would explain, |
02:04:37.02 | Mary Sobieski | explain what they were angry about. But then when asked, well, what should we do to fix it? They would describe |
02:04:42.41 | Mary Sobieski | and environment. |
02:04:43.69 | Mary Sobieski | That was the bid without calling it such a cooperative environment where the community acts together to make things better. |
02:04:50.12 | Mary Sobieski | That's what this bid is. I know in the audience we have some members that are concerned about our relationship with Sacramento and the county. |
02:04:59.01 | Mary Sobieski | And espouse local control. |
02:05:00.95 | Mary Sobieski | but we need local control. This is... |
02:05:03.23 | Mary Sobieski | It is local control. |
02:05:05.02 | Mary Sobieski | for the primary important stakeholders downtown. We residents are stakeholders, but so too are the business owners who every day show up to do that work on our behalf. They're there every day. They are part of our community. |
02:05:17.49 | Mary Sobieski | And last city council meeting, we narrowly accepted letting them serve on EDEC. |
02:05:23.85 | Mary Sobieski | and only as non voting members on other, and not even as non voting members on other committees. |
02:05:30.47 | Mary Sobieski | I felt that was a small step too. |
02:05:32.66 | Mary Sobieski | because it's acknowledging that just because you don't have your residence here, it doesn't mean you're not a stakeholder in Sausalito. |
02:05:40.32 | Mary Sobieski | doesn't mean that you're not part of the community. |
02:05:42.89 | Mary Sobieski | If you're a business owner here and you live in mill Valley or Novato, |
02:05:48.35 | Mary Sobieski | I think you're part of the community. |
02:05:50.28 | Mary Sobieski | I think if you are spending investing in your store, it's like investing in your house. The state law won't let you vote. |
02:05:58.77 | Mary Sobieski | You got to decide somewhere how to, what the criteria is for voting. So I get it. |
02:06:02.63 | Mary Sobieski | But I would call upon |
02:06:04.25 | Mary Sobieski | the people of goodwill that are skeptical about this, to think about the meta meaning that this sends to our community and the possibility of changing the culture by degree here. |
02:06:13.02 | Mary Sobieski | It's a lot more than dollars and cents. I happen to strongly disagree with my colleague who thinks this isn't going to make us a lot of money. I think it's going to make us buckets of money. I think it's going to drive interesting demand. I think it's going to unlock creativity. It's going to generate more TOT, more sales tax, more parking revenue in the off season when our lots are empty. We're flying an empty airplane. |
02:06:34.76 | Mary Sobieski | But what's really exciting is that we are turning with an open hand of trust and we're empowering |
02:06:42.35 | Mary Sobieski | a group of people to have local control. And that's why I'm opposed to the 50-50 vote business, even though we are contributing half, because I want the businesses to feel |
02:06:51.35 | Mary Sobieski | empowered to make those decisions nimbly. You can see how excruciatingly slow the city council process is. I would never want that. |
02:06:58.39 | Mary Sobieski | then for sure the bid would fail. The bid would fail. |
02:07:02.40 | Mary Sobieski | What the city council though would be good at is assessing if the bid is successful. So I'm all in favor of empowering, |
02:07:08.83 | Mary Sobieski | The bid to experiment, be nimble. |
02:07:12.02 | Mary Sobieski | be dynamic, |
02:07:13.93 | Mary Sobieski | And on the basis of the reporting things that I'm in favor of, |
02:07:16.78 | Mary Sobieski | to be assessed about their success. |
02:07:19.85 | Mary Sobieski | So those are my comments for now. Is there anyone else who wishes to be recognized? |
02:07:27.04 | Councilmember Hoffman | Yeah. |
02:07:27.58 | Mary Sobieski | Councilmember Hawkins. |
02:07:28.05 | Councilmember Hoffman | Okay. |
02:07:28.22 | Councilmember Hoffman | I have a, I'm, I'm curious as to why you think that a 50% vote or a |
02:07:36.76 | Councilmember Hoffman | 50% I guess weighted vote from the city would slow things down. I mean, for me, it would speed things up because you would have the 50% |
02:07:46.44 | Councilmember Hoffman | you know, vote. |
02:07:48.93 | Councilmember Hoffman | approve something and you would move forward very quickly, much more quickly. If you had the confidence that the city council, you can move forward. |
02:07:56.47 | Councilmember Hoffman | So, I mean, we didn't, I wasn't in favor of designing it this way, that the city would have 50%, you know, financial investment in this bid. I think that's, that's such an anomaly. It's, you know, it's interesting, but I don't. |
02:08:13.98 | Councilmember Hoffman | I mean, the decision would be made at |
02:08:16.41 | Councilmember Hoffman | the meeting, it would be the representative from the city at the meeting |
02:08:19.91 | Councilmember Hoffman | Our proposal will come forward, we're paying 50% and then |
02:08:23.33 | Councilmember Hoffman | we would move forward. So to me that I'm puzzled by that. I'm just asking because it was on the table and, |
02:08:29.69 | Mary Sobieski | Sure, right. My answer to that, Councilmember Hoffman, is that |
02:08:32.94 | Mary Sobieski | As you know, I'm on some corporate boards and we don't do a shareholders meeting for every decision made by the company. You have a board of directors that you elect. And and there the I just know how excruciating this is. Like, I thought we'd be more nimble on city council. So I just feel that that's my own answer. I agree. It's excruciating. Yeah. So so and, you know, I got to just I forgot to say one thing that I think is pertinent. The entire city contribution here is $124,000. |
02:08:52.31 | Babette McDougall | I agree. It's cruciating. |
02:08:53.96 | Mary Griffin | Thank you. |
02:09:06.57 | Mary Sobieski | the entire per year. Thank you, Ms. Bush, right here. It's per year, but it's like one employee. It's matched by another employee contributed by the private property owners. |
02:09:19.53 | Mary Sobieski | I think this is a small risk for a potentially huge benefit. That's my answer. Council Member Kelman. |
02:09:26.29 | Councilmember Kelman | I also want to recognize the vice mayor who had her hand up. Oh, I'm sorry. She wanted to speak before me. |
02:09:28.91 | Mary Sobieski | if she wanted to. |
02:09:30.63 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you very much, Council Member Kelman. Councilor Vice Mayor Cox, please. |
02:09:35.10 | Councilmember Kelman | Oh, you're on mute. |
02:09:35.96 | Vice Mayor Cox | Yeah. |
02:09:36.10 | Councilmember Kelman | Yeah. |
02:09:36.49 | Vice Mayor Cox | Sorry, I was just going to address |
02:09:39.15 | Vice Mayor Cox | If even if a even if two city council members sit on the. |
02:09:45.92 | Vice Mayor Cox | governing board. |
02:09:47.20 | Vice Mayor Cox | They don't have the authority to spend money on behalf of the city. It would take a vote of the council. And that's what is excruciating. |
02:09:53.80 | Vice Mayor Cox | this council |
02:09:55.22 | Vice Mayor Cox | vets things a half a dozen times before it's able to make a decision. |
02:09:59.67 | Vice Mayor Cox | We're looking tonight at a reimbursement policy for like the fifth or sixth time. |
02:10:04.79 | Vice Mayor Cox | And, you know, we keep having to pull it off the agenda, someone wants to make a change. It is, it has taken us months just to consider a reimbursement policy for those of us who want to volunteer our time to attend conferences. And so it is excruciatingly difficult to, for this City Council, |
02:10:26.42 | Vice Mayor Cox | to make decisions. And so I endorse the mayor's comments on that front. |
02:10:32.06 | Mary Sobieski | That's wonderful. |
02:10:32.26 | Vice Mayor Cox | I also would like to call the question. |
02:10:34.40 | Mary Sobieski | Okay, well, thank you for that. I feel I was obliged to recognize Council Member Kellman, and then we'll call the questions. |
02:10:40.54 | Councilmember Kelman | Thank you, Mayor. And I appreciate your comments, and thank you, Vice Mayor. |
02:10:44.98 | Councilmember Kelman | I think it is worth considering the equal representation of the amount contributed. And I actually feel that way even more strongly after your comments because of your urging of a new way of looking at things and a new way of participation and a real partnership here. And I think that's a real nod to how the city is doing something, I think, special and unique in this instance. And I also think that having representation from the city means that hopefully when we do the audit of downtown, we'll actually be more effective. I mean, one of the reasons that... special and unique in this instance. And I also think that having representation from the city means that hopefully when we do the audit of downtown, we'll actually be more effective. I think one of the reasons that these meetings have been so excruciating is because we need to double down on the attention to detail. I mean, the fact that I'm listing out things that we talked about at probably five of the prior six meetings, |
02:11:27.61 | Councilmember Kelman | is excruciating for all of us. And so my hope in urging that we have |
02:11:33.72 | Councilmember Kelman | fortunate city representation is that we won't have this and that things will be adequately conveyed and then we will be able to connect the dots on some things that are currently siloed and then the garbage cans will be clean the graffiti will be removed and the outreach will be better and we'll actually be more expeditious it's all an experiment so i offer that for consideration |
02:11:52.28 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. The question was, thank you very much. Question is called by Mayor Cox. So city clerk, can we please call the roll? |
02:11:59.27 | Councilmember Kelman | Well, I think I put that in my offering and that was an unresolved. So do we have three people who are welcoming to that? |
02:12:06.69 | Mary Sobieski | I believe there's a motion on the floor. If you want to make it- |
02:12:10.12 | Councilmember Kelman | I don't know if your motion included that or not. |
02:12:11.57 | Mary Sobieski | No, my motion does not include any of those things. We have some directions. The IAC attorney said our motion is around approving the formation of the bid. We can provide direction on things like the report and whatnot. That's the motion. |
02:12:26.94 | Mary Sobieski | So. |
02:12:27.48 | Mary Sobieski | The question? City. |
02:12:29.91 | City Clerk | Council member Blostein. |
02:12:32.17 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. |
02:12:32.19 | Councilmember Kelman | Yes. |
02:12:33.81 | City Clerk | Councilmember Hoffman? No. |
02:12:35.77 | Councilmember Kelman | No. |
02:12:36.00 | City Clerk | Councilmember Kelman. |
02:12:39.18 | Councilmember Kelman | I'm not going to hold it up, but I'm frustrated that we didn't have a more robust conversation about the 50% representation. I think that was a very fair offer for a unique effort, but I will give a yes vote, but I'm frustrated on that point. |
02:12:50.63 | Vice Mayor Cox | Right. |
02:12:53.20 | City Clerk | Vice Mayor Cox. |
02:12:54.90 | Vice Mayor Cox | I will vote yes as well. And I would like to... |
02:12:58.70 | Vice Mayor Cox | continue to consider the |
02:13:01.13 | Vice Mayor Cox | question of percentage of representation. So it's not before us. |
02:13:05.62 | Vice Mayor Cox | this evening, but I would like to see us consider that at a future date. |
02:13:10.77 | City Clerk | And Mayor Sobieski? Yes. |
02:13:13.72 | Councilmember Kelman | mayor we have an outstanding question regarding the steering committee uh which council members can't attend but because of brown act not all of us can't attend i would like to offer up if it's within my term that i would like to attend that meeting |
02:13:23.99 | Mary Sobieski | I love it. You're a city attorney. |
02:13:26.97 | Mary Sobieski | Did you hear that Councilman Kellman's |
02:13:30.61 | Mary Sobieski | question. |
02:13:32.10 | Sergio | Yes, I did. I don't know if it was a question or more of a comment that she would like to attend these meetings. |
02:13:38.52 | Mary Sobieski | I guess the whole the rubric of the question is a little guidance to us all for city council members that wish to attend the steering committee, given that we also need to comply with the Brown Act about who attends. |
02:13:49.56 | Sergio | Yes. Yeah, we would either need to notice that as a meeting of the city council or, you know, you would have to have less than a quorum of members attend. Yeah. |
02:14:00.07 | Mary Sobieski | Is it possible for me or us to assign to people that have expressed an interest to attend to attend? |
02:14:06.52 | Sergio | I think that's fine, yes. |
02:14:08.24 | Mary Sobieski | So you can be one of those people. I'd be happy to join you. Okay. |
02:14:14.76 | Mary Sobieski | Great, congratulations on a new step forward. |
02:14:25.81 | Mary Sobieski | I wanna thank my colleagues for that discussion and for the heavy lift that the last nine months has been in looking into this endeavor. |
02:14:36.85 | Mary Sobieski | So now we're going to move on with our regular city council meeting. The. We'll start with mayor's presentations and special announcements. So I want to read this, the community. |
02:14:51.97 | Mary Sobieski | This is from our sustainability director. Join the city of Sausalito as we explore projected flooding and sea level rise impacts across our community. The community-wide event will be held September 7th from 10 a.m. to 12 p.m. at the Spinnaker. Spend the morning learning about coastal vulnerabilities and what adaptation strategies are possible along our shoreline. Speak with adaptation professionals and local leaders. We will have activities for kids and a raffle for prizes. Light refreshments will be provided. An online community survey will also be available after the event for those who cannot join us in person. |
02:15:25.01 | Mary Sobieski | All are welcome and RSVPs are encouraged. An event flyer is at the back of the room for those in person. Or for more information, you can go to sausalito.gov slash shorelineplan. That's all one word. We look forward to seeing you there. |
02:15:39.16 | Mary Sobieski | Is Ms. Garcia in the room actually? No, she's still passed. Okay, well, maybe they're on the table, I hope. Okay, so those flyers are on the table. That's the special announcement. There are no action minutes. We will now consider the consent calendar. There are- Mayor? Yes, Councilmember Hoffman. |
02:15:42.35 | Adrian Brinton | Thank you. |
02:15:42.37 | Unknown | Thank you. |
02:15:42.40 | Unknown | Thank you. |
02:15:55.36 | Councilmember Hoffman | Mayor? Yes. |
02:15:56.11 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
02:15:57.25 | Councilmember Hoffman | Just a procedural question. Do we need to close the hearing and start the regular meeting? |
02:16:01.86 | Mary Sobieski | I already closed the hearing. Oh, you did? I did. Yeah, you did. Vice Mayor Cox, thank you for checking. Vice Mayor Cox. |
02:16:03.02 | Councilmember Hoffman | Oh, you did? |
02:16:04.43 | Unknown | Yeah. |
02:16:04.48 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
02:16:04.53 | Vice Mayor Cox | it. |
02:16:04.56 | Unknown | Thank you. |
02:16:04.60 | Councilmember Hoffman | I'm sorry. |
02:16:09.07 | Vice Mayor Cox | I raised my hand regarding the consent calendar, Mayor. |
02:16:12.56 | Mary Sobieski | Okay, I was just going to read the titles. That's all right. 4A, accept the resignation of Shira Barnett from the Library Board of Trustees and appoint... |
02:16:23.43 | Mary Sobieski | and appoint Timothy McLeod to the Library Board of Trustees for a retroactive three-year term ending on April 11, 2026. For B, appoint Edward Schultz to the Marine Commission on Aging commencing on July 31, 2024, ending on June 30, 2026. For C, ratifying the legislative letter opposing, unless amended, AB 3093 land use housing element streamlined multifamily housing item 4D approved the city of Sausalito's response to Marin County civil grand jury report titled cyber preparations. Are we there yet? 4E approved the city's response to the Marin County civil grand jury report sea level rise. The water upon us. We cannot run. We cannot hide May 31st, 2024. |
02:17:08.80 | Mary Sobieski | 4F approve the city's response to Marin County civil grand jury report with power comes responsibility youths under age 16 operating class to e bikes a safety risk for G adopt a resolution declaring certain computer equipment surplus and authorizing its disposition. |
02:17:26.17 | Mary Sobieski | 4-H adopt a resolution approving an encroachment agreement for the location of a 19-seat parklet and new signage, balcony, well lights, and awnings that would project onto the public right-of-way and authorization to serve alcoholic beverages in the public right-of-way at 813-1517 Bridgeway. |
02:17:43.01 | Mary Sobieski | Item four, I adopt a resolution of authorizing the city manager to execute the construction contract with Hardeman Construction for block 303 Sewerge Improvement Project for the base bid plus the bid alternative number one in the amount not to exceed $692,150. |
02:17:59.97 | Mary Sobieski | Uh, item 4J, adopt a resolution adopting a list of projects for fiscal year 2425 funded by Senate Bill 1, Road Repair and Accountability Act 2017 in an estimated amount of $184,249. |
02:18:15.88 | Mary Sobieski | Item 4K, adopt a public official reimbursement policy required by government code section 53232.2. 4L authorized city manager to execute a side letter license agreement with the Sausalito Yacht Harbor for the use of 47 parking spaces in Bay Street parking lot for public parking. |
02:18:31.19 | Mary Sobieski | 4M authorize a city manager to execute amended and restated lease agreement with new village school for lease of mlk property 100 ebtide for n approval of first amendment to amended and restated lease agreement for 300 spencer avenue with at&t and authorized execution by city manager |
02:18:51.27 | Mary Sobieski | The city attorney advises that we should remove item four |
02:18:54.91 | Mary Sobieski | L and for M, |
02:18:56.62 | Mary Sobieski | They will appear at the end of the meeting with a intent to continue and there will be an opportunity for city for members of the public to comment on the items. Then, with the exception of items for L and for M, the the South Dakota Harbor parking agreement and the new village school lease agreement. Are there any matters that members wish to remove? Vice Mayor Cox. |
02:19:20.82 | Vice Mayor Cox | Thank you, Mayor. I would like to remove items 4-H and 4-K. |
02:19:26.32 | Mary Sobieski | Okay, items 4-H and 4-K will also appear on the business agenda at the end of today's meeting. |
02:19:30.76 | Vice Mayor Cox | And Mayor, I will announce that I will need to recuse myself from the discussion of item 4M. |
02:19:36.66 | Mary Sobieski | Okay. |
02:19:38.84 | Mary Sobieski | Sorry. |
02:19:39.21 | Mary Sobieski | Go ahead, Council Member Bronson. |
02:19:40.76 | Councilmember Blaustein | I have to recuse myself from item 4i while I am a renter. I do live very close to that location, so I'm in the interest of caution choosing to recuse myself from item 4i, so if you want to do the agenda without that. I am not going to pull item 4f, but I do want to note that I believe that this requires a more robust discussion, and I know that this is the e-bikes with power comes responsibility grand jury report. I am aware that members of the board of supervisors are putting together a potential committee to consider this issue. So I'd like to ask that we have a more robust conversation about it or have it be agendized in the future and maybe refine the response at some point, but keep it on for now. |
02:20:15.44 | Mary Sobieski | genders in the |
02:20:20.01 | Mary Sobieski | Okay, so you're not removing it though? |
02:20:22.17 | Councilmember Blaustein | No, I just wanted to make that note. |
02:20:23.81 | Mary Sobieski | All right, so item 4L will now be item 5B. Item 4M will be 5C. Vice Mayor Cox, which were the two items again? |
02:20:30.73 | Vice Mayor Cox | 4H and 4K. |
02:20:33.01 | Mary Sobieski | So 4H will be 5D and 4K will be 5E on tonight's agenda. Okay, so we'll now move on to a motion to approve the consent calendar. |
02:20:44.43 | Vice Mayor Cox | You know... |
02:20:45.02 | Vice Mayor Cox | Public comment. |
02:20:46.81 | Mary Sobieski | Absent the items that needed to be recused from- |
02:20:49.68 | Vice Mayor Cox | Did you want to take public comment, Mayor? |
02:20:51.69 | Mary Sobieski | Yes, thank you very much for catching me on that. So with the exception of items 4H, 4K, 4L, and 4M, are there any public comment on the consent calendar? |
02:21:02.79 | Councilmember Blaustein | Yep. |
02:21:02.96 | Councilmember Blaustein | Don't we have to remove mine and vote separately on that? Or I guess we're going to take |
02:21:06.50 | Vice Mayor Cox | I guess we're going to take a comment first. |
02:21:08.87 | Mary Sobieski | I'm sorry. |
02:21:08.90 | Alice Merrill | Okay. |
02:21:10.18 | City Clerk | Okay, for a public comment, we do have Sybil Boutillier and Babette McDougall. |
02:21:21.34 | Ed Schultz | Good evening, Mayor and Councilmembers. |
02:21:23.45 | Ed Schultz | I'm so excited that you're going to be appointing Ed Schultz as my successor and the new commissioner on aging from Marin County to represent South Salido. I think you'll be very pleased to have him on board. He has a terrifically deep and rich experience working with older adults in various settings and is thoughtful about policy and what is needed to maintain wellbeing as we age. |
02:21:51.95 | Ed Schultz | He has abundant energy and has been volunteering with Salcelito Village and has agreed to work with H. Finley Salcelito as well. |
02:22:01.03 | Ed Schultz | You've chosen someone with a great attitude. |
02:22:03.88 | Ed Schultz | and a desire to accomplish meaningful change to enhance the lives of older adults in South Salido and Marin. And as for myself, I've been deeply honored to represent you on the Commission on Aging. I've been invited to continue on the Commission's planning committee as a public member, and I will do that. But mostly I'll be focusing my attention now on H. Fennelly, South Salido, and the next steps there. Once again, I want to thank you for supporting this important work, appointing this great guy, and thank you for the opportunity I've had representing you for 15 years on the commission. |
02:22:55.26 | Babette McDougall | Well, I wasn't formally invited, but here I am, Babette McDougall, a multi-decade resident of Sausalito. |
02:23:03.64 | Babette McDougall | So forgive me because I only have one inflated lung going so fast. |
02:23:07.42 | Babette McDougall | Don't chop me off at the knees, Walfred. Come on. See, you know I'm going to wrap up and move on. So, all right. |
02:23:14.72 | Babette McDougall | As you have hopefully seen from my written comments for the public record, hopefully they got in in a timely fashion. |
02:23:22.53 | Babette McDougall | I realize it's been a busy day and we didn't have power in most of this neighborhood. |
02:23:26.85 | Babette McDougall | today. So it was difficult, but it's important for you to know that it's not fair to load a consent calendar with items that were pulled from the consent calendar |
02:23:38.82 | Babette McDougall | not just this year, but previous iterations, and then put them on as if suddenly it's okay to just ramrod them through. They're asked to be pulled because the citizens want to weigh in. |
02:23:49.50 | Babette McDougall | And it's very unfortunate to see this complete disregard for the democratic process, Mr. Mayor. |
02:23:55.61 | Babette McDougall | I wish you would really consider standing on the right side of history at this point. |
02:23:59.84 | Babette McDougall | Thank you. |
02:24:02.78 | City Clerk | No further public comment. |
02:24:04.76 | Mary Sobieski | Okay, we will close public comment on the consent calendar and with the exclusion of item for I which city council member Thaustein is recusing herself, we will have a vote to approve the consent calendar without for h4 I for K for L for M is there a motion. |
02:24:20.92 | City Clerk | So moved. I think, sorry, Vice President. |
02:24:24.99 | City Clerk | Vice Mayor Cox recused this from 4N also, correct? |
02:24:27.54 | Vice Mayor Cox | And, |
02:24:29.29 | Vice Mayor Cox | Yes, but we're not voting on that right now. |
02:24:32.62 | Vice Mayor Cox | So I moved. I have to leave the |
02:24:34.96 | Councilmember Blaustein | Dias city attorney, Sergio. No. |
02:24:37.07 | Sergio | No, you do not have to leave the dais because it is a consent calendar item, but we do need to have a motion that votes on that item separately. |
02:24:44.02 | Vice Mayor Cox | And that's the that's the motion the mayor enunciated. That's the motion I'm making. |
02:24:48.38 | Sergio | Very good. Thank you. |
02:24:51.42 | Mary Sobieski | Roll call, please, Mr. City Clerk. |
02:24:53.00 | Vice Mayor Cox | Was there a second? I didn't hear it. Yeah, second. |
02:24:56.26 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. |
02:24:56.27 | City Clerk | Councilmember Blossom. |
02:24:58.17 | City Clerk | you |
02:24:58.22 | Vice Mayor Cox | Yes. |
02:24:58.28 | City Clerk | Yes. |
02:24:58.52 | City Clerk | Councilmember Hoffman? Yes. Councilmember Kelman? |
02:25:01.49 | Councilmember Hoffman | Yes. |
02:25:03.16 | City Clerk | Yes. Vice Mayor Cox. |
02:25:03.21 | Councilmember Hoffman | Yes. |
02:25:04.81 | City Clerk | Yes. |
02:25:05.74 | City Clerk | And Maris Obiecki. |
02:25:06.64 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
02:25:06.65 | Mary Sobieski | Yes. We'll now hear item 5I, which is the consent calendar item adopting resolution around the Block 303 sewer improvement project. |
02:25:14.58 | Vice Mayor Cox | I move approval of item 4i. |
02:25:17.28 | Mary Sobieski | Did I say four I, sorry. Four I, there's motion, I'll second it. It's made and seconded. Roll call please, Mr. Seek. |
02:25:24.29 | City Clerk | Sorry, who moved in second? |
02:25:26.03 | Mary Sobieski | Vice mayor and me, made and seconded. |
02:25:29.98 | City Clerk | Councilmember Blossin is recused. Councilmember Hoffman. Yes. Councilmember Kalman. Yes. Vice Mayor Cox. Yes. |
02:25:38.55 | Cheryl Pop | Yes. |
02:25:40.54 | Mary Griffin | Thank you. |
02:25:40.56 | Cheryl Pop | Yes. |
02:25:42.06 | Mary Griffin | Yes. |
02:25:42.44 | Cheryl Pop | Thank you. |
02:25:42.90 | City Clerk | And Mary Sobieski. |
02:25:43.78 | City Clerk | Yes. |
02:25:44.23 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. |
02:25:44.57 | Mary Sobieski | Okay, thank you very much. We will now move on to the business item. First, 5A, adopt a resolution authorizing the city manager to award a construction contract for the Ferry Landside Improvement Project. DeBalman Landscaping. |
02:25:58.66 | Mary Sobieski | Director McGowan. |
02:26:00.03 | Kevin McGowan | Welcome. I'll take that as a compliment. Thank you. |
02:26:01.65 | Mary Sobieski | But... |
02:26:01.72 | Unknown | Thank you. |
02:26:02.22 | Unknown | Yeah. |
02:26:03.59 | Kevin McGowan | Good evening, Mayor, members of City Council. I'm Kevin McGowan, Public Works Director for the City of Sausalito. I'm hoping... |
02:26:10.66 | Kevin McGowan | We can bring up the presentation and I'll run through some quick slides for you. |
02:26:14.61 | Kevin McGowan | so that we have plenty of time to talk about this specific subject. |
02:26:20.18 | Kevin McGowan | There we go. |
02:26:23.99 | Kevin McGowan | Great. Next slide, please. Sorry. All right. Just to run through some of the background with this project. And this slide shows the downtown area around the ferry and lot one, which is directly adjacent to the Golden Gate Bridge, Ferry Dock and Gangway. In 2017, the city entered into an agreement with Golden Gate. |
02:26:46.59 | Kevin McGowan | Transportation District. |
02:26:48.07 | Kevin McGowan | to make improvements to the land side portion of the Sausalito ferry. |
02:26:52.85 | Kevin McGowan | The agreement included conditions to enhance the shoreline ferry plaza, improvements to bicycle access, and increase the area available for staging and processing for ferry passengers and bicycles. |
02:27:07.72 | Kevin McGowan | The land side work is being funded by a $2.4 million grant |
02:27:13.05 | Kevin McGowan | partially from the Federal Transit Agency and the district. |
02:27:17.15 | Kevin McGowan | The city has a local match of about $100,000 for this project. |
02:27:21.60 | Kevin McGowan | Next slide, please. |
02:27:25.48 | Kevin McGowan | Over the last seven years, there have been many contributions to the development of this design. This includes the local professionals group, which includes Bill Hines, Michael Rex, and Jock Ullman, our design consultant BKF, and many city departments and their staff. In addition, Golden Gate Bridge Highway Transportation District, San Francisco Bay Conservation District, Sausalito Planning Commission, the Historic Preservation Commission, the Pedestrian Bicycle Advisory Committee, City Council as well have added their input to this specific project. All these groups and the people within these groups deserve to be recognized for their efforts to move this project forward. So many thanks. Next slide, please. |
02:28:12.85 | Kevin McGowan | Starting in 2020, the local professionals group have been meeting with staff to develop a plan for the Ferry Landside area. And on February 6, 2024, the City Council approved the plan for the project. Our consultant, BKF Engineers, have taken that conceptual plan and developed the construction plans for the project, which was advertised for bid in the month of June 2024. |
02:28:43.55 | Kevin McGowan | This project is categorically exempt from SECRA per section 11.5301. The bid documents for the project needed to follow the federal process. This includes additional paperwork and processes related to federal standards, such as disadvantaged business enterprises and small business enterprises, which are included in the process. Next slide, please. |
02:29:11.00 | Kevin McGowan | The plan developed includes the expansion of the plaza hardscape area, the installation of asphalt paving on the northeast side of parking lot one. Improvements to close Tracy Way and install, excuse me, install an area for some permanent bike parking in the plaza, as well as the installation of accessible ramps and bollards for the plaza expansion. The award of the construction project is based on the lowest base bid amount. |
02:29:43.86 | Kevin McGowan | The bid documents did include additional alternatives, which the city can add if it so chooses at the time of the award. The engineer's estimate for the bid was $1.26 million. That's for the base bid by itself. |
02:29:58.96 | Kevin McGowan | Next slide, please. |
02:30:02.27 | Kevin McGowan | The bid package included four alternatives. Alternative one was to replace the existing sidewalk area on the northeast side of Humboldt with a standard concrete sidewalk. Bid alternative two added a gravel paved surface to Tracy Way to be more a pedestrian friendly walking surface. Alternative three changed the standard bollards to lighted bollards in the plaza area. And alternative four was a deductive change |
02:30:31.65 | Kevin McGowan | to the bid to eliminate the majority of the work to close off Tracy Way as it connected to Anchor Street. Contractors are required to submit costs for each of these with their bid. However, the award is based on the base bid amount by itself. |
02:30:46.84 | Kevin McGowan | Next slide. |
02:30:50.06 | Kevin McGowan | A portion of the construction is located in the San Francisco Bay Conservation Development District, or BCDC's jurisdiction. And the city applied for a permit for these proposed improvements several months ago. BCDC has required minor changes to the project, and as of this afternoon, we received the permit from BCDC on the project. So that's good news. |
02:31:14.09 | Kevin McGowan | Staff is also, thank you, staff is also seeking assistance to develop the plats and legal descriptions for the vacation of Tracy way and anticipating requesting approval for vacating that roadway in September. Next slide, please. |
02:31:31.76 | Kevin McGowan | On July 22nd, 2024, staff received and opened |
02:31:37.31 | Kevin McGowan | three bids for the reference project. |
02:31:39.99 | Kevin McGowan | The apparent low bidder, Bauman Landscaping Incorporated, is a registered small business enterprise and, if awarded, will be performing the majority of the work for the project. |
02:31:51.49 | Kevin McGowan | Submitting a bid requires that the bidders |
02:31:54.22 | Kevin McGowan | requires the bidders to include necessary forms and documentation to comply with FTA requirements. One of the forms was inadvertently left out of the bid. However, the low bidder has submitted this form within five days of opening the bid. Since the form submitted does not materially change the bid, the lack of receiving this form with the bid is considered an irregularity. |
02:32:20.61 | Kevin McGowan | and can be waived by the awarding agency. This information has been forwarded to the FTA for review. |
02:32:28.68 | Kevin McGowan | And we are waiting their response. We do recommend that the city manager execute the agreement with the contractor after receiving favorable review from FD from the FTA. |
02:32:41.13 | Kevin McGowan | If the FTA does not agree with the city's position regarding the waiver of irregularities in the bid, the low bidder may be considered as non-responsive, and the bid may be awarded to the second low bidder. |
02:32:57.08 | Kevin McGowan | Staff recommends authorizing the city manager to award the construction contract to Bauman Landscaping after receiving approval from the FTA. They also recommend awarding bid alternative two and three. |
02:33:10.98 | Kevin McGowan | With this award and other expenses, such as the construction management services, the project is still within the original budget for the project. Next slide. |
02:33:24.21 | Kevin McGowan | The original design concept included separating patrons boarding the ferry with their bikes and pedestrians boarding the ferry. The idea was to split the flows and decrease the congestion in the plaza area by having bike returns on the northeast side of parking lot one. That's represented by the red line on the screen in front of you. |
02:33:45.58 | Kevin McGowan | On May 21st, 2024, Sausalito Police provided input about the current design which has the bike return on Humboldt Street. |
02:33:55.40 | Kevin McGowan | This area is currently used by tour bus staging, drop-off, and pick-up. |
02:34:00.48 | Kevin McGowan | During the heavy tourist season, |
02:34:02.40 | Kevin McGowan | This summer, an average of 175 bikes per day have been parked in the current bike return area on Tracy Way. |
02:34:11.31 | Kevin McGowan | Tourists also appear to be utilizing e-bikes more often, and with the tourists returning to San Francisco with their e-bikes, the need of having bike parking appears to be decreasing compared to the pre-COVID era. |
02:34:25.96 | Kevin McGowan | Next slide, please. |
02:34:30.04 | Kevin McGowan | Based on input from the police department, the design team has been meeting weekly to identify possible areas to consider for seasonal bike return staging. |
02:34:39.36 | Kevin McGowan | Bill Hines will be addressing the next few slides to describe an alternative for the bike return staging area, which can address not just bike staging, but also other issues. Before I turn it over to Bill, and we also have David Parisi, who should be joining us on this call or at this meeting. |
02:35:01.23 | Kevin McGowan | Please keep in mind that there are three permanent bike facilities for this project. One of them is behind parking lot two, which accommodates a total of 16 permanent bike stalls. And in the new plan, it also provides an additional 38 bike parking areas. And there is also an additional 16 bike parking stalls at the end of Tracy Way. |
02:35:30.08 | Kevin McGowan | So with that, I'd like to turn over to Bill Hines if he's in the audience or |
02:35:36.44 | Kevin McGowan | He snuck up on me. |
02:35:37.48 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
02:35:37.75 | Kevin McGowan | I will turn it over to Bill. |
02:35:39.09 | Councilmember Hoffman | to. |
02:35:39.31 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
02:35:39.60 | Councilmember Hoffman | Before you leave, I just want to ask one question about this slide. |
02:35:42.59 | Councilmember Hoffman | So you said 38 additional spots and that's the square, that's the square right down there where you have your cursor. Yeah. |
02:35:49.64 | Kevin McGowan | In the plaza. Yes. |
02:35:50.55 | Councilmember Hoffman | Yes. On the plaza. Okay. So 38 spots there with right. With some kind of pretty rack. |
02:35:55.73 | Kevin McGowan | Right. |
02:35:56.17 | Kevin McGowan | Yes. |
02:35:56.78 | Councilmember Hoffman | Well, |
02:35:56.93 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
02:35:57.03 | Kevin McGowan | Okay. 3D, I'm not too sure yet, but we'll get there. |
02:35:57.10 | Councilmember Hoffman | Okay. |
02:35:59.56 | Kevin McGowan | Thanks. Okay. Thank you. |
02:36:01.32 | Kevin McGowan | Okay. |
02:36:02.13 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you, Bill. |
02:36:02.92 | Kevin McGowan | All right. |
02:36:06.03 | Bill Hines | Um, who's advancing slides for me, or is that me? Okay. Um, is the next one great. |
02:36:16.00 | Bill Hines | Um, so Kevin did a great job of describing the design and the recommend. |
02:36:23.00 | Bill Hines | gives us the functional footprint with this design to do a number of things. The current plans that were put out to bid show the bike parking on Humboldt. |
02:36:35.25 | Bill Hines | That's a completely workable solution. |
02:36:37.97 | Bill Hines | As we heard, however, though, in outreach with Maddens and folks around that area, there was some concern about kind of having the bikes together with the tour bus parking over on Humboldt. |
02:36:54.97 | Bill Hines | So through this process of working with the police department and David Parisi, we identified that we can essentially hold all of the functions that need to be held with the bike parking in the east side of lot one. |
02:37:13.24 | Bill Hines | Um, |
02:37:14.10 | Bill Hines | All of this can be done in a temporary fashion. |
02:37:18.17 | Bill Hines | And essentially what we're proposing with the solution is putting a row of removable bollards along the entrance to the lot to basically close off the farthest eastern bay of parking. |
02:37:33.03 | Bill Hines | And there would be a corresponding row of removable bollards right by the Yacht Club driveway. |
02:37:40.07 | Bill Hines | And these two sets of removable bollards basically comprise a bike parking area where you can park over 200 bikes. It allows you to keep the sidewalks free for pedestrian circulation. And through the middle of the area, underneath the shade of the existing trees in the parking lot, we're able to form the entire queue that's necessary to load onto the ferry. So if I may, I can come up and point to these in closer detail. |
02:38:16.76 | Bill Hines | This is the area where folks would arrive. This is the row of renewable ballers that is designating a safe area for bikes behind those ballers. These are the racks that can accommodate over 200 bicycles. And this line underneath the trees is the queue that is directed toward the Geoflow driveway. |
02:38:47.77 | Bill Hines | We made |
02:38:48.72 | Bill Hines | We made a couple of really minor tweaks or refinements with this design to facilitate this scheme, one of which was just lengthening the Yacht Club crosswalk at their driveway a little bit further. |
02:39:05.12 | Bill Hines | and nudging those two trees up a little further to the northeast. And what that allows is the entire queue to form, again, along that tree line, |
02:39:16.66 | Bill Hines | And there can be a rope across the driveway bollards. This can be operated by a Golden Gate Bridge district employee, or it could even be operated by somebody who is operating the bike parking area. |
02:39:37.77 | Bill Hines | And basically when the rope is opened, it allows an entire queue of bikes to utilize the Yacht Club driveway and crosswalk. |
02:39:47.44 | Bill Hines | and they proceed past the driveway and proceed all the way down the ferry dock |
02:39:54.72 | Bill Hines | And I'll just point to the line that you can see down the ferry dock, the arrowhead on that line is |
02:40:00.49 | Bill Hines | is basically right where the kind of gate is. |
02:40:03.36 | Bill Hines | So we think it's possible to completely evacuate that queue and get them moving out onto the dock. |
02:40:08.96 | Bill Hines | And |
02:40:09.91 | Bill Hines | when the rope is open, we think that movement of people is gonna happen fairly quickly. |
02:40:14.85 | Bill Hines | They're going to be pointed at the dock. |
02:40:17.75 | Bill Hines | when that rope is pulled back, they're going to move, you know, probably over the span of a few minutes and queue up on the ferry dock. |
02:40:28.21 | Bill Hines | The rope is closed. Another queue of people can form behind that area. |
02:40:33.87 | Bill Hines | and |
02:40:35.12 | Bill Hines | The improvements to the yacht club driveway that we had seen |
02:40:39.54 | Bill Hines | in the previous design, all of that's retained in the scheme. |
02:40:44.62 | Bill Hines | We have the expanded sidewalk at the Yacht Club driveway, and we also have the expanded drive aisle there, which makes the maneuvering in and out of the Yacht Club driveway quite a bit more improved than the status quo today because of that landscaping configuration and the tightness and congestion in that area. |
02:41:12.65 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you, Director McGowan. |
02:41:16.43 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you, Bill. Appreciate that. We'd also like to have David Parisi, if he is on the call, to talk to us a little bit about some of his work in this regard of taking a look at some of the traffic aspects. David, are you on the call? |
02:41:32.95 | David Parisi | I see his name. I am here, yeah. |
02:41:32.98 | Kevin McGowan | I see. |
02:41:33.03 | Unknown | I am there. |
02:41:35.31 | David Parisi | And my video is not coming on. |
02:41:38.45 | David Parisi | Thank you. |
02:41:38.47 | Kevin McGowan | That's okay. I think we can hear you, David. |
02:41:40.15 | David Parisi | Thank you. |
02:41:40.20 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you. |
02:41:40.62 | David Parisi | Okay, great. |
02:41:42.21 | David Parisi | Thank you. Yeah. Based on the police input and the local architects group, |
02:41:47.88 | David Parisi | This plan was developed and I think some of the refinements that we've been able to come up with are |
02:41:54.43 | David Parisi | can be quite successful. They include near Anchor Way, providing some ballers that direct the bicyclists into the parking area for bikes, |
02:42:06.90 | David Parisi | Actually, now I can start my |
02:42:09.99 | David Parisi | Video, I'm allowed to do that, thank you. |
02:42:14.76 | David Parisi | And Kevin, if you could point to these areas, that'd be fantastic. Thank you. As Bill mentioned, the queuing of bikes would occur behind a facilitated area outside of the Yacht Club. |
02:42:28.94 | David Parisi | area. So bicyclists would no longer |
02:42:31.49 | David Parisi | be queued across that crosswalk as per the previous design, but would be behind the rope. |
02:42:37.51 | David Parisi | As Bill mentioned, when the facilitator opens up the rope or gate, |
02:42:43.55 | David Parisi | The queue will be moving across that in a matter of minutes to get to the waiting ferry. |
02:42:52.44 | David Parisi | If there is a case where somebody needs to get in or out of the Yacht Club driveway during that cube movement, facilitator can offer that movement, stopping the bicyclists at that point in time. |
02:43:06.13 | David Parisi | This overall design would require a removal of a parking space. |
02:43:11.70 | David Parisi | as Kevin's pointing out right now. |
02:43:14.05 | David Parisi | Because right now the movement with that car coming out and taking a right turn is actually not allowed, but 90% of the people do it today anyway. It's navigable. It works today. But we want to make it a little bit more convenient. So the idea would be to remove one parking space to allow the cars exiting and entering concurrently at the same time with the double yellow line in between them at the same time. |
02:43:38.75 | David Parisi | So those are some of the highlights. I'm happy to answer any questions you may have. |
02:43:42.82 | David Parisi | Thank you. |
02:43:42.92 | David Parisi | Uh, |
02:43:43.42 | David Parisi | During Q&A. |
02:43:49.31 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you. I'm happy it's a small room, so I can kind of jump between different things. So thank you very much. Next slide, please. |
02:43:57.50 | Kevin McGowan | And just to add a few things, Bill and local professionals group also, they don't necessarily look at one specific thing. They look at really the big picture. So there are opportunities there in this area to even take a look at bus tour drop off on Humboldt and changing that in the future. That's not part of this construction right this second. But I just wanted to enumerate that the local professionals group, they do take a very big effort to try to look at all aspects. So next slide, please. |
02:44:29.75 | Kevin McGowan | So as you know, staff has been working closely with many different stakeholders, including BCDC, as well as Golden Gate Bridge Highway Transportation District. We're lucky to get the permit today, and we're just examining that. There seems to be no real major problem with the permit itself, so nothing needs to change on the bid documents. Staff has been in constant communication with Golden Gate Bridge Highway Transportation District. one of their staff did attend the bid opening and we have forwarded all paperwork related to the grant to them upon receipt. We are waiting for confirmation that waiving the irregularities in the bid is acceptable from the granting agency. A notice to proceed will not be sent until we have this confirmation in hand. So this concludes our presentation at this point in time. Both Bill and I and David Parisi are here to answer questions, and I know that Michael Rex is also in the audience. He's part of our local professionals group. Our police chief is here as well. There are questions regarding this project. |
02:45:34.55 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you, Director McGowan. Are there, who wishes to be recognized from the dais for questions? Vice Mayor Cox. |
02:45:43.30 | Vice Mayor Cox | Thank you, Mayor. I just wanted to dig down a little bit more into the... |
02:45:48.94 | Vice Mayor Cox | um, |
02:45:50.58 | Vice Mayor Cox | omission of a form from the bid documents. |
02:45:54.61 | Vice Mayor Cox | The applicable regulation actually gives the bidder five days to submit that form. Isn't that right, Director McGowan? |
02:46:02.46 | Kevin McGowan | Yes, that's true. |
02:46:04.08 | Vice Mayor Cox | And the FTA grant agreement |
02:46:06.69 | Vice Mayor Cox | only requires that we |
02:46:10.71 | Vice Mayor Cox | can port with the public contract code and with the applicable |
02:46:15.96 | Vice Mayor Cox | Code of Federal Regulations. Isn't that right? |
02:46:18.73 | Kevin McGowan | I believe that is correct. Yes. |
02:46:20.58 | Vice Mayor Cox | And so the FDA did not reserve to itself |
02:46:23.97 | Vice Mayor Cox | the right to force us to accept a bid that's $100,000 higher |
02:46:30.23 | Vice Mayor Cox | because of a minor clerical irregularity. Isn't that right? |
02:46:34.54 | Kevin McGowan | Yes, I believe that's the case. |
02:46:36.92 | Vice Mayor Cox | And I do wanna point out that applicant, and this just happens to be an area that I practice law in. And so I do wanna point out that, |
02:46:46.82 | Vice Mayor Cox | Applicable case law |
02:46:48.64 | Vice Mayor Cox | actually has overruled a city that declined to waive a minor bid irregularity as not being protective of the public fisc and so |
02:47:02.94 | Vice Mayor Cox | I would like to recommend to the Council that we adopt the resolution as included in our packet by |
02:47:13.06 | Vice Mayor Cox | the city attorney without making notice to proceed contingent upon receiving approval |
02:47:24.15 | Vice Mayor Cox | from the FTA and I am asking you, Director McGowan and the city attorney, whether you have objections to that. |
02:47:32.82 | Vice Mayor Cox | after hearing this line of questioning. |
02:47:35.05 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you. |
02:47:35.81 | Kevin McGowan | I'll let our city attorney guide us on this. |
02:47:39.20 | Sergio | Yeah, I do not have any concerns about that. |
02:47:44.99 | Sergio | it seems like we will likely hear from the FDA |
02:47:49.01 | Sergio | sooner rather than later. And I don't think that the award of the contract should be contingent on |
02:47:55.40 | Sergio | you know, waiting for the FDA to provide the city with a response, simply because they may decline to provide the city with a response. So, and I do agree with Vice Mayor Cox that the applicable case law |
02:48:10.00 | Sergio | does support the city's position that it has the authority to waive this as a minor irregularity. |
02:48:15.16 | Kevin McGowan | I'd like to offer that we do want to respect our fellow agency at the district as well and try to work as closely as we can with them. So that was one of the reasons to at least wait for the FDA to respond. |
02:48:30.52 | Vice Mayor Cox | So, but Director McGowan, isn't it true that Golden Gate Bridge District has already weighed in |
02:48:36.12 | Vice Mayor Cox | and in agreeing with our perspective regarding this minor irregularity. |
02:48:41.57 | Kevin McGowan | No, their local staff has said that they don't believe that we should award it to the low bidder based off of the fact that the form wasn't submitted precisely with the bid. |
02:48:53.89 | Vice Mayor Cox | I saw a different email from the city attorney. I think the mayor saw the email as well. |
02:48:59.97 | Vice Mayor Cox | in which they agreed with our perspective. |
02:49:03.90 | Sergio | Yeah, I did meet with their general counsel who agreed that, you know, with my interpretation of the relevant regulations in this matter. |
02:49:11.54 | Vice Mayor Cox | And Director McGowan, I apologize if you were left out of that loop. So things have been moving very quickly. We only just received the bids |
02:49:19.05 | Vice Mayor Cox | Last week. |
02:49:20.25 | Vice Mayor Cox | And so I think that perhaps the left hand didn't know what the right hand was doing. And so |
02:49:25.36 | Vice Mayor Cox | There's no need to change anything in the draft resolution that's attached to the staff report. I just wanted the city attorney's concurrence that we can simply adopt that resolution |
02:49:37.17 | Vice Mayor Cox | without making it contingent upon any further communications, although we should absolutely continue to |
02:49:45.70 | Vice Mayor Cox | collaborate and communicate with the Golden Gate Bridge District and with FTA, but I just wanted to clarify that we need not make our award contingent on that. |
02:49:57.59 | Vice Mayor Cox | city attorney, and it sounds as though you agree with me on that. |
02:50:02.05 | Sergio | Yes, I agree. |
02:50:04.01 | Vice Mayor Cox | Thank you. |
02:50:04.14 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you. |
02:50:04.24 | Vice Mayor Cox | YouTube. |
02:50:04.63 | Vice Mayor Cox | Thank you, those were my questions. |
02:50:06.10 | Councilmember Kelman | Thank you. |
02:50:07.31 | Mary Sobieski | Okay, who wishes to be recognized next for questions? Councilmember Kelman. |
02:50:10.84 | Councilmember Kelman | Thank you. Thank you, Director McGowan. Nice to see you again on this matters. Is this our fifth hearing on this? Fourth hearing? |
02:50:18.16 | Kevin McGowan | Quite a few. I lost count. |
02:50:19.26 | Councilmember Kelman | Yes, same. Just a quick, trying to figure out just the budgeting. So on one of the slides above, you detailed 2.5 million available to the city. And here we're seeing 1.4 plus 258,000. Why do we need to have a contingency amount authorized if we have 2.5 worth of budget? |
02:50:47.29 | Kevin McGowan | So the contingency is used for the construction aspect and what it does. It allows the city manager to sign off on change orders in the field. So for example, if we do this project and we find a |
02:51:02.26 | Kevin McGowan | we find something under the ground that wasn't anticipated. That change order amount is used to address that specific amount. So in this particular case, we're noting, in fact, we can take the slides off at this point. Thank you so much. We're noting a contingency in the amount of a little bit above 15%. So it's a little bit more than what we normally would. Just anticipating there could be some unexpected things in the ground itself. |
02:51:34.91 | Councilmember Kelman | True. OK, two questions, one for you, one for Mr. Hines. For you also, I thought I saw an email exchange months ago between us regarding how much money to date we've spent on this project. Do you have a recollection of that total cost so far? |
02:51:50.52 | Kevin McGowan | Yes, you can actually take a look at the staff report. Our total that we have spent, or at least authorized to spend so far, is $458,515. So that's under the contract amounts that we have for BKF, their amendments, SWA, and others. |
02:52:10.99 | Councilmember Kelman | So then is that total then get added on to the numbers in the final slide that was just up? |
02:52:17.67 | Kevin McGowan | Yes, those are in there. |
02:52:19.93 | Councilmember Kelman | Okay, so 400K plus 1.4, 1.8 plus 258. Okay. And then thank you. And then I have a question for Bill real quick. |
02:52:32.54 | Councilmember Kelman | Hi, Bill. |
02:52:33.97 | Councilmember Kelman | I see throughout the plans a number of trees, but I don't know that we've ever committed to a number of trees. Can you just tell me the tree plan for the area? Is that in budget? Do you know? |
02:52:47.59 | Bill Hines | As far as I understand, yes, it is. |
02:52:51.41 | Councilmember Kelman | Okay, do we have any detail? Because the last thing I'd want to do is authorize a concrete heat sink and not have planned for trees. And so I would love a commitment tonight from our council on a number of trees of a certain size. And I want to know how much they're going to cost. And so I don't know if maybe at some point you can help us work through that. |
02:53:14.27 | Bill Hines | Happy to help you work through that. You know, the recommended scheme has always shown a certain number of trees along the waterfront, the trees along the walkway in front of the yacht club, and trees in the bioretention basin along the east side of the parking lot that's going to shade that expanded walkway that we're building, as well as the trees in the Tracy Way Landing Plaza that are intended to pedestrianize that space and reduce the longest crosswalk across bridgeway through a left turn pocket. |
02:53:49.64 | Councilmember Kelman | Okay, thank you so maybe for director McGowan as we heard earlier tonight with the bid trees are often left behind. And we don't adequately plan for their installation or their maintenance so i'm not sure exactly what i'm looking for, but it is some level of reassurance and specific articulation of a tree plan for this project. |
02:54:12.46 | Mary Sobieski | I normally wouldn't, but because I actually asked this exact question, Bill, is it not the case that irrigation is built into the sidewalk for the trees that you have on the drawing? |
02:54:16.00 | Councilmember Kelman | I'm just going to go ahead. |
02:54:16.98 | Unknown | of the |
02:54:21.55 | Mary Sobieski | That's what I thought was a super expensive part of this whole thing. |
02:54:24.32 | Bill Hines | Correct. The scope of what BKF and RHAA has put together implies that these trees are going to be irrigated and maintained. |
02:54:36.60 | Bill Hines | I'm not familiar with the absolute specifics of the project specifications, but there's typically always a maintenance requirement and a warranty period associated with this work. |
02:54:48.52 | Councilmember Kelman | Okay, I just want to make sure that that is included in the bid, because that is the things that gets left behind and are very expensive and then it gets excluded. So before we leave here tonight, we're not leaving here tonight until we figure that out. Thank you. |
02:55:01.34 | Bill Hines | Did you have any other questions? I'll just add that I echo your sentiment. I have had to participate on a few blue ribbon committees to do greening after the fact. And it's always unfortunate that it can't be conceived with the project. |
02:55:01.43 | Mary Sobieski | Do you have any other questions? |
02:55:15.00 | Bill Hines | And a lot of the work that we did to help corroborate this budget and urge the project to go to bid was to make sure that we got all of this sort of cooked in, you know, to the pot. |
02:55:29.05 | Mary Sobieski | So while we're asking other questions, could someone look into the paperwork to satisfy Council Member Kellman's specific request? And maybe you can definitively answer her question here in the next half hour. |
02:55:40.58 | Mary Sobieski | I'll do my best. Okay. Thank you. |
02:55:45.47 | Mary Sobieski | who, any other questions? |
02:55:47.48 | Councilmember Kelman | And I'll just note, it is mentioned on page four under base bid, installation of trees. But, you know, it's not going to be good enough. So let's sort that one out. |
02:55:59.73 | Mary Sobieski | Okay. Councilmember Hoffman. |
02:56:02.26 | Councilmember Hoffman | Yeah, thank you for that. So I have, I'll have a follow up when we figure out when we return to the tree issue. So on, I had a question on with regard to your slide that showed the parking along Humboldt. |
02:56:19.44 | Councilmember Hoffman | And I think that's slide. |
02:56:23.00 | Councilmember Hoffman | Find it real quick. |
02:56:24.28 | Councilmember Hoffman | I think that's sorry, that's slide 11. Slide 12. |
02:56:27.20 | Kevin McGowan | Slide 12. |
02:56:29.90 | Kevin McGowan | Did you want to bring that up? |
02:56:31.19 | Councilmember Hoffman | Yeah, I think it's... |
02:56:32.75 | Councilmember Hoffman | Slide 12. |
02:56:34.56 | Councilmember Hoffman | So my question is, |
02:56:36.84 | Councilmember Hoffman | That's not part of, that's not part, obviously the plan that we looked at before. |
02:56:42.69 | Councilmember Hoffman | Right, so that's correct. Yeah, so this is a new proposal, which I think is very interesting. |
02:56:43.13 | Unknown | So, |
02:56:43.22 | Unknown | That's correct. |
02:56:43.79 | Unknown | Thank you. |
02:56:48.23 | Councilmember Hoffman | So my follow up question is how, |
02:56:52.33 | Councilmember Hoffman | Can we use the unused, I guess, construction, if we have any money left over, we have contingent, you know, on the off chance we might have any money left over. Can we use that to restripe or whatever we need to do to change, convert that into what it is now, which is bus parking? |
02:57:11.36 | Councilmember Hoffman | and turn it in and angled parking on one side and bus parking on the other one. |
02:57:15.79 | Councilmember Hoffman | how uh you're not i know you're not gonna be able to give me a cost right now but |
02:57:21.05 | Councilmember Hoffman | is can we restripe it and get the parking spots in the current hardscape that's there and about how much would that cost or how much would that be budgeted at? |
02:57:30.08 | Kevin McGowan | as long as whatever it is we're proposing is compliant with the grant language. And we would need to double check this with Golden Gate as well as FTA. |
02:57:39.38 | Kevin McGowan | As long as that is in compliance with the language of the grant, I think that we can move forward with it. |
02:57:45.45 | Kevin McGowan | If we're simply talking about striping, |
02:57:48.74 | Kevin McGowan | and not putting down a micro seal or putting down a slurry, |
02:57:52.52 | Kevin McGowan | First, |
02:57:53.64 | Kevin McGowan | I think we're probably looking at the $25,000 to $30,000 range because it is thermoplastic, which is a plastic material. |
02:58:01.47 | Councilmember Hoffman | Okay, great. Thank you. |
02:58:03.63 | Councilmember Hoffman | Bill has his hand up, yes. |
02:58:06.60 | Bill Hines | Thanks. I just want to add that the so so your question was about adding those parking spaces that we saw at Humboldt. You and I can go out there this evening with a can of spray paint and do that. |
02:58:16.89 | Unknown | Right. |
02:58:17.01 | Unknown | Thank you. |
02:58:21.60 | Bill Hines | Um, |
02:58:22.65 | Bill Hines | However, |
02:58:23.88 | Councilmember Hoffman | I'm with you. |
02:58:24.10 | Bill Hines | In order for it to work, you need two-way circulation on Humboldt and two-way circulation on Bay. And one of the things that we learned in talking with some of the downtown businesses, the Maddens in particular, is that people use Bay incorrectly and will often drive the wrong way down it. |
02:58:25.60 | Unknown | to the next episode. |
02:58:44.85 | Bill Hines | So my answer is you could conceivably |
02:58:51.22 | Bill Hines | you know, promote perpendicular parking on that street, but you have to change the circulation and you have to address the buses as part of a comprehensive solution before you can do those things. So yes, you can do it, but there are a couple kind of significant steps in there. |
02:59:08.50 | Bill Hines | And I don't think it makes sense to necessarily link the two because there's more work around Anchor, Humboldt, and Bay that will need to happen in the future, probably together with the shared parking agreement and some other things. |
02:59:23.31 | Councilmember Hoffman | Have we done the measurement to know that there's enough room there for two-way traffic on Humboldt? |
02:59:30.13 | Bill Hines | Yeah. |
02:59:30.85 | Councilmember Hoffman | And it is... |
02:59:32.12 | Bill Hines | Yeah, there's like a 58 or 60 foot right away, which, you know, overhanging parking spaces with two travel lanes is a very, very, you know, typical standard. |
02:59:45.37 | Councilmember Hoffman | Okay, follow-up question. Understand nobody, I mean, this is kind of out of the blue, but why does it- |
02:59:49.87 | Kevin McGowan | Before we move on from that particular question, I think some more study is needed on the specifics of how that area needs to be improved related to buses. So if we're going to put buses on anchor and then have them rotate through to Bay Street to pick up, |
02:59:51.10 | Councilmember Hoffman | From that. |
03:00:06.43 | Kevin McGowan | there might be a need to take a look at the configuration of Humboldt to see if it does need to be two-way or should it be one-way. |
03:00:12.91 | Kevin McGowan | So before we determine, you know, whether that works for two way or not, a little bit more study is needed. |
03:00:19.30 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you for that. No, I appreciate that. |
03:00:19.62 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you. |
03:00:20.96 | Kevin McGowan | And then lastly, Bill doesn't get any spray cans. No, no, no. |
03:00:27.07 | Bill Hines | The, you probably want to charge for that parking too. That's another step in this process, like actually numbering the spaces and figuring out how it works with the kiosk. So. |
03:00:34.17 | Councilmember Hoffman | how it works with the kiosk. |
03:00:36.40 | Councilmember Hoffman | Okay, thanks. Okay, thank you for that. Yeah, I appreciate it. |
03:00:40.33 | Mary Sobieski | Can I call on Vice Mayor Cox? Are you finished? Or you have other questions you want to ask? |
03:00:42.12 | Councilmember Hoffman | Um... |
03:00:46.12 | Mary Sobieski | No rush. |
03:00:46.40 | Councilmember Hoffman | No, that's okay. I do have some questions about, actually, sorry. |
03:00:50.69 | Mary Sobieski | Vice Mayor, you'll be after the Council Member Hoffman. |
03:00:53.03 | Councilmember Hoffman | These are questions about the bike parking |
03:00:56.83 | Councilmember Hoffman | the bike parking area, the proposed new bike parking area and parking that one. |
03:01:01.74 | Councilmember Hoffman | As I understand it in our prior conversations that I have with you, full disclosure, with you and with the chief earlier prior to this meeting, this is, it's a... |
03:01:14.36 | Councilmember Hoffman | I don't want to say temporary, but it's a flexible system. And it will be, the idea is that it's going to be seasonal, |
03:01:24.95 | Kevin McGowan | Yes. |
03:01:25.27 | Councilmember Hoffman | and it will be removed during low season. |
03:01:29.01 | Councilmember Hoffman | And it will also be flexible with the ability to be responsive to safety concerns or risk management with regard to safety. |
03:01:39.97 | Councilmember Hoffman | circulation in this area. |
03:01:42.65 | Kevin McGowan | Yes, that's correct. It is intended to be temporary, seasonal, and it should be in a fashion that can be moved around in case we need, like Bill mentioned before, in case you need more bike parking. |
03:01:53.06 | Councilmember Hoffman | Mm-hmm. |
03:01:53.75 | Councilmember Hoffman | Okay. And in response to concerns that may arise about congestion in that area and |
03:02:00.86 | Councilmember Hoffman | Risk management. Yes. Okay. Thank you. That's it. I think that's it for now. I do have a three question now. |
03:02:01.97 | Kevin McGowan | Yes. |
03:02:07.96 | Mary Sobieski | Okay, thank you. I'm sorry, did you have another question? No, please, a question for later, Vice Mayor Cox. |
03:02:09.16 | Councilmember Hoffman | Yeah. |
03:02:11.18 | Councilmember Hoffman | Peace. |
03:02:14.52 | Vice Mayor Cox | Thank you, Mayor. I did wanna follow on to Council Member Hoffman's |
03:02:20.28 | Vice Mayor Cox | uh, |
03:02:21.39 | Vice Mayor Cox | questions and I was very concerned to hear Bill Hines say that Humboldt has to be two way and that Bay has to be two way because |
03:02:31.91 | Vice Mayor Cox | I had a conversation with the professionals 10 days ago, and there was no mention that Humboldt had to be |
03:02:38.57 | Vice Mayor Cox | two ways and Bay had to be two ways, only that the Maddens were seeking to have Bay Street be two ways. |
03:02:44.76 | Vice Mayor Cox | So I'm very happy to hear |
03:02:47.45 | Vice Mayor Cox | The public works director say that this requires more study, which leads me to my question, which is. |
03:02:54.79 | Vice Mayor Cox | um, |
03:02:55.72 | Vice Mayor Cox | We know |
03:02:56.85 | Vice Mayor Cox | that if we adopt this plan as revised this evening and approve |
03:03:02.58 | Vice Mayor Cox | the plans and specifications that we have to identify or it's our goal to identify alternative |
03:03:10.03 | Vice Mayor Cox | by |
03:03:11.82 | Vice Mayor Cox | Karen Hollweg, parking for the spots displaced by bicycle parking and so. |
03:03:16.02 | Vice Mayor Cox | My question procedurally is, |
03:03:18.51 | Vice Mayor Cox | Given the length of time that this project will take to build, |
03:03:22.73 | Vice Mayor Cox | Is that a decision that we can |
03:03:25.96 | Vice Mayor Cox | undertake the additional study on and come back and figure out the best solution without having to make that decision this evening. So I don't know if that goes to the city manager or to the public works director. |
03:03:38.06 | Kevin McGowan | I'll just step in. Yes, the timeline for construction. |
03:03:42.27 | Kevin McGowan | is that we'd like to build most of the hardscape work here in the fall so that we don't end up building some of the work in the wintertime, which would not be a good idea. But the intent for answering your question is we will have time before the next heavy tourist season when we'll have bikes coming in. So we're looking at from the fall until April or May when we'll have to establish another bike corral or a staging area. So there's time. |
03:04:12.99 | Bill Hines | Thank you. |
03:04:14.14 | Bill Hines | Vice Mayor, if I may respond to your earlier comment. When I spoke about two-way circulation, I was stating that if the intent is to add the perpendicular parking there, it would need to change the two-way circulation, most likely. But the project doesn't propose to change any of the circulations. |
03:04:34.69 | Vice Mayor Cox | I'm clear on that. I'm questioning, as did the Public Works Director, whether even putting perpendicular parking there instead of buses. |
03:04:43.67 | Vice Mayor Cox | if we find another place in town to cue the buses, whether we would need two-way |
03:04:49.54 | Vice Mayor Cox | streets on Humboldt and Bay |
03:04:51.83 | Vice Mayor Cox | to accommodate diagonal parking, I don't believe we would. |
03:04:56.41 | Vice Mayor Cox | I'd like to see the further study on that. |
03:04:59.27 | Vice Mayor Cox | that clarification. |
03:05:01.06 | Vice Mayor Cox | that we have the time |
03:05:03.53 | Vice Mayor Cox | to |
03:05:04.61 | Vice Mayor Cox | thoroughly consider all of our options. |
03:05:09.18 | Vice Mayor Cox | and to make the decision that is logistically and financially most sound on behalf of the city. My last question has to do with the plans and specifications. |
03:05:21.43 | Vice Mayor Cox | in our |
03:05:23.49 | Vice Mayor Cox | that |
03:05:24.25 | Vice Mayor Cox | packet versus what was |
03:05:26.68 | Vice Mayor Cox | included |
03:05:28.01 | Vice Mayor Cox | for the contractor to bid on. |
03:05:32.10 | Vice Mayor Cox | Um, |
03:05:33.30 | Vice Mayor Cox | One of the |
03:05:38.05 | Vice Mayor Cox | one of the approvals we are making tonight is approval of the plans and specifications. I would like to be sure that the plans and specifications we are approving this evening include this new |
03:05:50.46 | Vice Mayor Cox | Um, |
03:05:53.98 | Vice Mayor Cox | approach to handling bicycle parking on the east side of lot one, since that was not part |
03:06:00.99 | Vice Mayor Cox | of what was initially transmitted to |
03:06:04.80 | Vice Mayor Cox | potential. |
03:06:06.37 | Vice Mayor Cox | contractors forbid. So I just want to be sure that what's before us tonight |
03:06:12.61 | Vice Mayor Cox | to approve, we only enjoy design immunity for plans and specifications that we approve. And so I wanna make sure that the plans and specifications we approve are indeed |
03:06:22.37 | Vice Mayor Cox | the plans and specifications that include |
03:06:25.30 | Vice Mayor Cox | this um |
03:06:28.17 | Vice Mayor Cox | option for handling bicycle parking with the bollards and the ropes, even though we will have to likely enter into a change order with a contractor to carry that out. |
03:06:39.63 | Kevin McGowan | That's correct. We will need a change order for that specific piece. |
03:06:43.92 | Vice Mayor Cox | but are the plans and specifications that you've asked us to approve |
03:06:50.31 | Vice Mayor Cox | this evening |
03:06:51.68 | Vice Mayor Cox | So, |
03:06:52.64 | Vice Mayor Cox | Are those with the new because what's in the presentation that you this is the same thing we went through. |
03:06:59.83 | Vice Mayor Cox | six months ago. What's in the presentation is different from what's in our staff report. |
03:07:04.98 | Vice Mayor Cox | And so I just want to be, I want, I would like clarity on what it is. |
03:07:10.09 | Vice Mayor Cox | We're approving by the resolution approving the plans and specifications. What plans and specifications are we approving? Are we approving the amendments contained in the presentation that we saw tonight? Or are we approving the plans and specifications that were bid by Bauman? |
03:07:27.00 | Kevin McGowan | You are approving the plans and specifications for Bauman who submitted a bid. |
03:07:32.16 | Kevin McGowan | or the original concept. |
03:07:33.90 | Kevin McGowan | If there's going to be a change associated with it, we'll have to enter a new change order after that. |
03:07:39.40 | Kevin McGowan | And we can come back to the council to get approval for that change order if necessary. |
03:07:44.08 | Vice Mayor Cox | Okay, I would like to see us do that i'd like to because of the interplay of various aspects of circulation pedestrians bicycle cars, I would like to be sure that we approve whatever the final design is so that we enjoy. |
03:08:02.54 | Vice Mayor Cox | design immunity. And by the way, Director McGowan, I didn't actually say good evening and thank you for your presentation earlier this evening. So I'd like to say that to you now. |
03:08:11.50 | Kevin McGowan | Well, thank you very much. I appreciate that. |
03:08:14.55 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you, Vice Mayor. Who would like to go next with questions? |
03:08:17.41 | Mary Sobieski | Councilmember Blaustein. |
03:08:19.34 | Councilmember Blaustein | Thanks Director McGowan and thank you to the members of the working group, Bill Hines and also Mr. Parisi for all of the time and energy that you put into this project. I really... |
03:08:29.49 | Councilmember Blaustein | means a lot. I know it's been |
03:08:31.44 | Councilmember Blaustein | probably thousands, definitely hundreds, if not thousands of hours at this point at time to get us here. So I was thrilled to see that we had a bid that came in within budget. I just wanted to clarify a couple of things about that. So the base bid is 1.316. And then we list the cost for the alternatives as well as a contingency. But just for the transparency of the public, because there were a lot of questions about the alternatives and the note in the staff report speaks specifically to decisions around Tracy way. What's the process for addressing. |
03:09:05.31 | Councilmember Blaustein | each of those alternatives as they come forward and the process for construction after the base built. |
03:09:11.39 | Kevin McGowan | So at this point in time, the four alternatives are on the plate. If the council wants to award any of those, |
03:09:19.98 | Kevin McGowan | now would be the time to do so. |
03:09:22.36 | Kevin McGowan | So staff is recommending |
03:09:25.19 | Kevin McGowan | including bid alternative two and three at this point in time. Now to try to clarify that quickly, alternative one was to put concrete over on the Humboldt street side for a sidewalk. Alternative, alternative two had to do with Tracy way and putting down gravel pay. Alternative three had to do with changing the bollard lights so that they're lighted. And the last one, alternative four, had to do with a deductive change order. And we set that up to make sure that we could build this project. We would want to delete some of the items if we had bids that came in over our budget. |
03:10:01.59 | Councilmember Blaustein | Mm-hmm. |
03:10:03.40 | Councilmember Blaustein | Okay. So, and, and this still leaves us with significant or at least a substantial contingency. It does. We move forward with those two. And what's the total contingency? |
03:10:09.32 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you. |
03:10:09.35 | Sue Fisher King | with the |
03:10:09.42 | Kevin McGowan | Yes. |
03:10:12.85 | Kevin McGowan | Total contingency, as noted in the slide in your staff report, is 258,511. |
03:10:19.56 | Councilmember Blaustein | Okay, great. Thank you. I just wanted to clarify that cost because it wasn't necessarily clear. |
03:10:25.96 | Mary Sobieski | Any other questions by Samara Cox. |
03:10:28.96 | Vice Mayor Cox | Yes, apologies, that reminded me of another question. So bid alternate one is to widen the concrete sidewalk on Humboldt Avenue |
03:10:37.67 | Vice Mayor Cox | And it includes the installation for a bike parking area, but we're now no longer going to put a bike parking area on Humboldt. |
03:10:47.71 | Vice Mayor Cox | Director McGowan, why would you like us to still approve Alternate One? |
03:10:53.25 | Kevin McGowan | No, we're not asking you to approve bid alternative one. |
03:10:56.98 | Kevin McGowan | We're asking you to approve bid alternate two and three. |
03:11:00.84 | Vice Mayor Cox | I'm sorry. I think I misheard you. I thought you said one and two. So... |
03:11:05.24 | Kevin McGowan | No, two and three was just going over what the alternatives were. |
03:11:06.19 | Vice Mayor Cox | Thank you. |
03:11:09.48 | Vice Mayor Cox | I understand. Thank you for that clarification. |
03:11:12.53 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you. |
03:11:12.55 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you, Vice Mayor. Council Member Hoffman has her hand up. |
03:11:15.15 | Unknown | Um, |
03:11:15.37 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
03:11:15.81 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
03:11:15.82 | Vice Mayor Cox | Thank you. |
03:11:15.84 | Councilmember Hoffman | Just for your information, that's slide eight on your presentation. So if anybody wants to look at it, it's slide eight. And that's accurately set forth on slide eight. So thank you for that. So that was also my question. So I think that was answered. My question was, are we still, it was part of the original bid, but you've taken it out. So thank you for that. And I appreciate that. Okay, thank you. |
03:11:43.77 | Mary Sobieski | Any other questions before we go to public comment? |
03:11:48.02 | Mary Sobieski | Okay, let's have public comment, please, city clerk. |
03:11:54.35 | City Clerk | We all call out three names. |
03:11:57.66 | City Clerk | happens. |
03:12:01.07 | City Clerk | Bonnie McGregor, Gail Schell, and... |
03:12:10.47 | City Clerk | Hank Baker. |
03:12:29.40 | City Clerk | Bonnie McGregor. |
03:12:31.69 | Mary Sobieski | Bonnie, Ms. McGregor, please approach the podium. |
03:12:35.73 | Bonnie McGregor | Thank you. |
03:12:40.89 | Bonnie McGregor | Good evening, Mayor and City Council. I am Bonnie McGregor, as I think everybody knows by now. And I'm not going to belabor things. I'm anxious to get out of here earlier than we did last time. |
03:12:55.62 | Bonnie McGregor | I think we've talked this thing. We could talk and talk and talk and talk and talk and talk for the next two years and not come to 100% agreement on anything. |
03:13:04.43 | Bonnie McGregor | We did get agreement on the whole project in January, and then we all agreed on the change for Tracy Way later. So, and there have been some discussion tonight, and I think a lot of these things can be handled with change orders. And I think the project needs to be given a temporary go. |
03:13:24.40 | Bonnie McGregor | And we can make assessments and reports on things like that down the road and make whatever changes are necessary. I've learned over my few years here that anything that is written down by people can be changed by people. So I vote for moving forward and voting on this. Let's get that bid to the contractor. Let's get this thing done before the rain starts. |
03:13:50.64 | City Clerk | Gail? |
03:13:52.98 | Gail Schell | Hi, I'm Gail Schell. I am a lowly resident of Sausalito. I love volunteering with Sausalito Beautiful. I care a lot about the community, and I've really enjoyed getting to know a little bit about you by coming to these city council meetings. I want to thank you for all the time and the considered attention that you've given to this project. It's very impressive. |
03:14:13.18 | Gail Schell | I really appreciate your willingness to move forward at each step. |
03:14:17.32 | Gail Schell | And I'm really excited to be here today, learning that we have a plan that is within budget, that allows for changes to occur along the way as needed, is really, really exciting. |
03:14:30.39 | Gail Schell | Um, |
03:14:32.08 | Gail Schell | You have the opportunity to make this great change happen for all of us. And I really hope that you will continue to move forward. I urge you to adopt the resolution recommended in the staff report. Thank you so much. |
03:14:47.17 | Hank Baker | Hank Baker. |
03:14:49.66 | Hank Baker | Hank Baker, downtown business owner and resident and member of EDACC. |
03:14:55.55 | Hank Baker | You don't get a second chance for a first impression. |
03:14:59.01 | Hank Baker | First impressions are really not one thing. |
03:15:01.49 | Hank Baker | They're a series of touch points. |
03:15:03.35 | Hank Baker | So what are those touch points? |
03:15:05.93 | Hank Baker | Dirty trash cans. |
03:15:07.94 | Hank Baker | Um, |
03:15:08.97 | Hank Baker | newspaper racks with dated newspapers in them, flower baskets with no flowers, stickers on signs, |
03:15:18.60 | Hank Baker | That's the front door that our guests to Sausalito see when they get off the ferry. |
03:15:25.22 | Hank Baker | That's probably something we want to change. And this seven-year effort by some very talented folks, both on staff and not staff, is your chance and our chance to change that dynamic and to make those touch points and make that first impression the best one we can and hopefully have some of these guests leave more money with us so that we can proceed with the important things that the city needs to do. Thank you. |
03:15:56.15 | City Clerk | Okay, Bjorn Hansen, Scott Thornburg, and Kieran Culligan. |
03:16:12.67 | Bjarne Hansen | Hello, I am Bjarne Hansen. I'm a 44-year resident of Sausalito. Thanks for the work that you all do. I'm always for improving the city that we've lived in for a while, and I just love the looks of the place. It was really interesting to me tonight to hear the business owners contributing 40%, so anything that makes it nicer for them, that they can do better business so we can get even more tax money from them. Perhaps our taxes go down a little bit. Anyways, that's a hope. |
03:16:45.04 | Bjarne Hansen | We'll see if that happens, but I don't think so. I'm in big support of improving the fair and ending. Thank you. |
03:16:52.24 | Scott Thornburg | Thank you. |
03:16:54.50 | Scott Thornburg | Thank you. Good evening. |
03:16:55.81 | Scott Thornburg | there are a number of ways to get to downtown Sausalito that do not require parking. Thought I would list a few. Golden Gate Transit buses, Marin Transit buses, tour buses, Golden Gate Ferry, |
03:17:09.03 | Scott Thornburg | which has multiple routes a day, all of those. Blue and Gold Fleet, you can bicycle. You can take a ride share with Uber or Lyft. You can carpool with someone. You can drop off. You could take a taxi. |
03:17:22.91 | Scott Thornburg | There are hotel shuttles. There is a, for parks and rec, at some of their events, they've offered resident shuttles in the past year. And God forbid you could walk. |
03:17:34.03 | Scott Thornburg | There are a number of ways to get to downtown Sausalito to support our community and our businesses and to be together as a group, as a community. What we don't need is more parking lots. We have lots and lots and lots of parking. Most of it is unused in the off season. And I think one of the things that I'm excited about, thank you for advancing the bid here tonight. |
03:17:56.56 | Scott Thornburg | I do think that that will allow us to maximize our parking in the off season, which will allow us to to to really take best advantage of our downtown area. But I don't think we should prioritize parking and I don't think we should prioritize cars over the greater beautification and benefit of the community. Thank you. |
03:18:19.64 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
03:18:19.66 | Kieran Culligan | here in Culligan. |
03:18:23.35 | Kieran Culligan | Hi there, here on Kelligan, still a South City resident. I peddled myself down to lot one today just because it felt like a super important day |
03:18:32.03 | Kieran Culligan | for our town, for the doorstep. |
03:18:34.12 | Kieran Culligan | to Sausalito and I went there at two 30, right? Beautiful sunny day. |
03:18:38.98 | Kieran Culligan | light winds, |
03:18:40.40 | Kieran Culligan | Peak month. |
03:18:41.98 | Kieran Culligan | 2.30 PM, busiest day. Because remember, I'm the parking analyst guy. |
03:18:46.79 | Kieran Culligan | Busiest time of day. And there were 62 open spaces in Lot Wadah. |
03:18:53.00 | Kieran Culligan | tons of open spaces in lot two and lot three and lot four. And it was a reminder to me of, you know, one, the economics and how it works with demand, which means like on that day today, it's granted not a weekend, but we could have had 60 fewer spaces in that lot, no Saucelio Yacht Harbor deal, and there'd be zero impact to the city's finances, even on a peak month day. But we do have peaks and we have busy summer days. We have busy days even in the winter when it's Christmas or New Year's. And we have awesome things like the Sausalito Yacht Harbor agreement that will actually add capacity, more spaces than we already have. |
03:19:29.92 | Kieran Culligan | We have ideas that I've heard about floating around for re-striping in lots three, that's gonna buy us another 12 or 13 spaces. There's other things we can do in terms of advanced approaches and how people pay for parking, how we do enforcement. So there's tons of opportunity |
03:19:44.32 | Kieran Culligan | from a capacity standpoint, |
03:19:46.07 | Kieran Culligan | And from a revenue standpoint, we're going to be in the positive here. So let's create a huge win, a funded effort to improve the waterfront for our residents, for our visitors, to support our businesses who are so important to the town. And we're going to improve this for ourselves, but also for the planet. So let's move forward. I think we've worked through all the issues. We're going to do something great here. |
03:20:06.83 | City Clerk | We're going to... |
03:20:09.93 | City Clerk | Next we have Charles Melton, Sharna Brockett, and Cass Green. |
03:20:20.36 | Charles Melton | Good evening. My name is Charles Melton. I first want to thank Council Member Kelman for bringing up trees. I also love trees. Also, you masterfully at a previous meeting got another member behind the council to donate two trees to the ferry project. So let's include that in the calculations and take that out of the budget. But I appreciate you bringing trees up. I do ride the ferry and I'm actually very supportive of this plan because it does put my safety first. It expands the crosswalk in front of the Sausalito Yacht Club. So when I'm walking by there, cars can actually have more visibility about me. My safety... supportive of this plan because it does put my safety first. It expands the crosswalk in front of the Sausalito Yacht Club. So when I'm walking by there, cars can actually have more visibility about me. My safety is worth it. |
03:20:52.06 | Charles Melton | It's priceless. It's worth more than one parking space. It's worth more than 300 parking spaces. I value my safety. So thank you for including these plans and putting public safety first. I'm also supportive of this plan because Los Lato residents have already paid for it. Our tax dollars, our federal tax dollars have gone to fund this project. |
03:21:10.57 | Charles Melton | What could be more fiscally responsible than keeping our tax dollars here in Sausalito? If this plan is not approved, some other city is going to benefit from our tax dollars. Let's be fiscally responsible and keep our Sausalito tax dollars here in Sausalito where we can benefit from them. |
03:21:25.94 | Charles Melton | And also, as we're talking about being fiscally responsible in the parking spaces and those issues, from my understanding, the city received a parking plan or parking report from Dixon. This has been a while now, this report's been there, but it includes multiple steps to enhance the number of parking spaces and also enhance the amount of revenue that comes from those parking spaces. Yet no action has been taken on that. So I encourage our city council to include to consider that in further agenda items. |
03:21:52.10 | Charles Melton | No one plan is going to solve everything. |
03:21:54.46 | Charles Melton | It's not going to be done. We've talked about that tonight. There's multiple steps that need to be taken to improve our downtown. This plan and improving our access to our ferry is one of those many steps that can be taken. So I support this plan. Thank you for the long conversations we've had about this. Thank you to the volunteers who've dedicated their time putting together this plan. And thank you for your thoughtfulness and getting this plan approved, accepting a bid and getting shovels into the ground so we can have a wonderful front doorstep to our city. Thank you. |
03:22:25.05 | Sharna Brockett | So I'm Sharna Brockett and I'm a resident and I also love trees. |
03:22:29.90 | Sharna Brockett | And want to see more of them want to see that we're keeping that area cool for the future with trees and shade. |
03:22:37.49 | Sharna Brockett | Um, but I also just want to say we've come here so many times. There's so many people here. We've come, we've showed up as I heard five times, six times. I don't even know. I've lost count. |
03:22:46.18 | Sharna Brockett | Um, so I just want to remind everybody after seven years, uh, you know, we've been working on this project and it continues, the funding continues to be at risk. So in November, we received a letter from the golden gate transport, uh, highway division authority. I'm sorry. I don't think I got that right, but the. |
03:23:05.64 | Sharna Brockett | They basically are saying this critical importance of time sensitivity for this project. And then we got a second letter in March saying from them again, saying, look, you're on the cusp of losing this $2.4 million. |
03:23:17.06 | Sharna Brockett | And we urge you to proceed with haste. So I just want to remind everyone about that. I also want to just comment on the parking. Really excited to see this deal with the Yacht Harbor and the Maddens. I know that was a lot of work and so excited that they want to come to the table and partner with the city, a private city partnership. |
03:23:39.32 | Sharna Brockett | And it's going to make up for the parking that we need to lose. And it's actually going to add some. And it's also going to help us with the revenue. |
03:23:46.98 | Sharna Brockett | And then I want to lastly, I want to say, don't get hung up on the softscape and the bikes where they're going to line up. This can move, right? I will personally come down and help you move those racks. |
03:23:58.37 | Sharna Brockett | And let's keep Tracy way in this Tracy way is beautiful. We've all been to Europe. We've all been to places where we see these beautiful tree line promenades where, |
03:24:07.05 | Sharna Brockett | There's artists and people playing music and people walking along eating ice creams. We can have that here in Sausalito. We deserve that. |
03:24:14.20 | Sharna Brockett | So let's get this thing over the finish line. Please approve the bid so that we can start construction in the fall. |
03:24:20.53 | Sharna Brockett | before the rain starts. And thank you again for so your hard work on this. Thank you. |
03:24:32.75 | Cass Green | Hi, we are really supportive of this plan. |
03:24:38.18 | Cass Green | and would like it to move forward. I'd love to see the deal with the Yacht Club, the Yacht Harbor also move forward for the parking. I think that the hotel and the other hotels in the area will be, you know, we're all gonna be impacted by the construction, we're gonna be impacted by the loss of parking. |
03:24:55.71 | Cass Green | But we... |
03:24:56.73 | Cass Green | believe that this is the best step forward for Sausalito, that this is going to be an incredible improvement. And now with the P bid, I can't wait to sell the beauty of Sausalito to the rest of the world. So please approve the bid. Thank you. |
03:25:16.23 | City Clerk | All right. |
03:25:16.64 | City Clerk | Next three people we have is Adrian Brenton. |
03:25:19.96 | City Clerk | Willie McDevitt, and Mary Griffin. |
03:25:29.14 | Adrian Brinton | Adrian Brinton, Sauce Leader resident, who's probably way too interested in parking and I've been thinking about parking. |
03:25:36.25 | Adrian Brinton | Way too much lately, because it is a super important revenue source for us. And it's also super important to our businesses to have enough parking. And yeah, these changes are hard. Seeing that, you know, putting the bike queue in parking lot one solves one really important set of problems that, you know, the police department brought up. They wanted to see better flow the yacht club, even though I don't agree with their position, they were very adamant about the issues that they had with it. You know, and this solves those problems at the cost of some parking spaces. |
03:26:05.17 | Adrian Brinton | And I'm really glad we're having a conversation about the peak demand dynamics around our parking and the fact that they are empty a huge amount of the time. And as the mayor mentioned, flying the plane half full and filling those parking lots in off hours is a massive revenue opportunity for the city. The Sausalito Yacht Harbor deal, I mean, amazing. When I walk around down there and I walk through that parking lot and I see the massive amount of empty space sitting there in the middle of our downtown, |
03:26:34.87 | Adrian Brinton | It's sad and seeing that we're actually getting to where we can have a partnership with the property owner there to be able to utilize that space better to the benefit of the city. |
03:26:43.68 | Adrian Brinton | Amazing. And also get that ticketing revenue, right? |
03:26:47.09 | Adrian Brinton | So many people parking that lot right now. And as we get that ticket revenue, that is also going to help replace some of this revenue. So... |
03:26:55.73 | Adrian Brinton | The parking issues in Sausalito go really, really deep. I was recently asked to join a committee on parking. We've been discussing some of the issues |
03:27:04.11 | Adrian Brinton | We still have the Dixon report. We really haven't action very much in there. There's a whole list of policy changes that we can make that will also recoup spots. We've got people parking in the lots overnight, over busy weekends, using various loopholes that we can close. Those will all gain spots back too. So there's a ton of work to do on parking. There's a ton of opportunity on parking. So I think we're giving up a couple spots here. I think we can definitely make it up and we can make up the revenue as well. Thank you. |
03:27:36.65 | Willie McDevitt | Hi, Willie McDevitt again. I'm going to ask you to approve a plan that I don't like. |
03:27:43.32 | Willie McDevitt | Um, |
03:27:45.20 | Willie McDevitt | There are three reasons it's within budget. That's all three. Uh, well, |
03:27:52.72 | Willie McDevitt | Thank you. |
03:27:54.27 | Willie McDevitt | So, you know, this has gone on for a long time. I think it's a really great compromise. And, you know, not approving it means you get 100% of nothing. And if you do approve it, everybody gets a little of something. Thank you. |
03:28:12.85 | Mary Griffin | Good evening. Thank you. And thank you to the local professionals group and to the city and to the council for all the work on this. |
03:28:21.96 | Mary Griffin | And I've lived here for 38 years and been an architect for 45 years. And I think I could count on one hand the time I've heard of a project |
03:28:30.50 | Mary Griffin | being fully funded and coming in under budget. |
03:28:34.30 | Mary Griffin | And so please let's not stare this. |
03:28:36.98 | Mary Griffin | opportunity and wasted. It seems like a great thing for Sausalito. And if we can do this before the LA Olympics, so let's go. |
03:28:48.32 | City Clerk | All right, next three people are Cheryl Popp, Todas Antonovicius, and Beth Swerg. |
03:28:57.18 | Cheryl Pop | Thank you, counsel, for all your patience and everything you've done on this. I'm Cheryl Pop, a longtime Sausalito resident, homeowner, |
03:29:05.55 | Cheryl Pop | community activist and I'm a downtown business owner. So I sell the books by the Bay is at 100 Bay street. It is right in the middle of this huge thing. And I am so supportive of this project. I urge you to approve the construction bid for the ferry land sign project, which did amazingly come in under budget. No less. This major enhancement to the downtown area is not costing the city. It is a gift from the federal government. |
03:29:30.83 | Cheryl Pop | There's even a... |
03:29:31.96 | Cheryl Pop | Big contingency built in. Why risk losing this generous funding? |
03:29:37.37 | Cheryl Pop | I don't think you want your legacy to be one of losing millions of free dollars offered by the government, losing an opportunity to vastly improve a downtown, a downtrodden downtown landscape. |
03:29:49.20 | Cheryl Pop | So I urge you to move forward decisively with the Sausalito Ferri Landside Improvement Project |
03:29:55.45 | Cheryl Pop | Let your legacy be one of meaningful change, enhanced safety and beautification. Let's act now to ensure that we don't lose this grant money. |
03:30:04.32 | Cheryl Pop | Approve the hardscape. |
03:30:06.31 | Cheryl Pop | The soft state, as we've all heard, can be refined over time. It's flexible. It can be adjusted, including the bike queue configurations. |
03:30:15.65 | Cheryl Pop | I want to put a plug in for Tracy Way Closure. It makes total sense and is such an important, vital part of this overall vision. It provides for a more attractive downtown, but also a more communal one that promotes open space along the waterfront. Transforming Tracy Way into a pedestrian promenade will make the area safer and more inviting for everyone of all ages for all generations to come. It will dramatically enhance the downtown experience for visitors and residents alike. |
03:30:44.94 | Cheryl Pop | So adopt the resolution recommended by staff report. It's time to move forward. You have done your due diligence. There is no rational reason to delay this important project further. Thank you. |
03:31:01.70 | Tadis Antonovicis | Hi everyone, my name is Tadis Antonovicis. I'm a proud resident of Sausalito. I urge you to approve the bid for the Ferry Landside project, including Alternative 2 and 3. My primary reason is this, it's going to make downtown beautiful and better. It's going to make me want to spend more time downtown. It will make me want to bring other people downtown to show off this amazing place that the people of Sausalito put together. |
03:31:25.05 | Tadis Antonovicis | And if I feel that way, many other people do too. Residents, tourists alike. Doing this project is going to bring more people downtown every day of the year, enjoying it, spending money, bringing in more city revenue. |
03:31:37.34 | Tadis Antonovicis | We've been talking a lot about our deficit and doing nothing and sitting on our hands won't solve our deficit. Growth and investment in the appeal of our downtown will solve our deficit. |
03:31:47.92 | Tadis Antonovicis | And it's a grant that's funding this investment. That's a no brainer. |
03:31:51.38 | Tadis Antonovicis | We've been talking a lot about parking on the point of parking spots that we may lose with this project. Director Hess said earlier today that the lot one is only full 60 to 80% on average. What that tells me is that we need to stop focusing on the 35 spots that might go away. What we need to do is focus on filling the other 146 spots in lot one. Those 146 spots are just not getting filled. Doing this project will fill more of them. |
03:32:17.85 | Tadis Antonovicis | increase our parking revenue average across the year, it will go up. |
03:32:21.84 | Tadis Antonovicis | Let's approve this bid and fill those 146 parking spots. Thank you. |
03:32:30.68 | Beth Swerke | Hello, I'm Beth Swerke, nine-year resident. You've heard and know all the reasons to move forward with this and approve this tonight, so I won't take my time. |
03:32:40.40 | Beth Swerke | listing them all out. |
03:32:41.89 | Beth Swerke | I will share why I and a lot of people are here. |
03:32:45.17 | Beth Swerke | We are desperate for positive change. |
03:32:47.81 | Beth Swerke | I'm sure I'm not alone in feeling overwhelmed with national politics and feeling not quite sure where or how best to focus my energy. |
03:32:56.19 | Beth Swerke | How beautiful. That's so many in this room, in this community. You guys have decided to focus our energy on local politics and enhancing this extraordinary town. |
03:33:07.33 | Beth Swerke | They say in a divided world, real change happens at the local level. |
03:33:11.11 | Beth Swerke | So I got involved this year. And a lot of people in this room have gotten involved. |
03:33:15.21 | Beth Swerke | And we've been so inspired by this project that enhances our community. |
03:33:19.42 | Beth Swerke | I feel energized. I see that change can happen. |
03:33:23.77 | Beth Swerke | I also have been flabbergasted by how slow this change comes. |
03:33:30.18 | Beth Swerke | People have joked tonight about this being the seventh and fifth meeting on these matters tonight. That's not funny. |
03:33:36.48 | Beth Swerke | That's slowing us down. |
03:33:37.94 | Beth Swerke | Enough with the roadblocks. That's doing a disservice to our city. |
03:33:41.79 | Beth Swerke | Let's make this positive change for our residents and our businesses. Please approve the staff recommendation, including bid alternatives two and three. |
03:33:50.21 | Beth Swerke | This will positively impact our community and our businesses and has come in under budget. |
03:33:55.68 | Beth Swerke | Please break down ASAP. Thank you. |
03:34:00.22 | City Clerk | All right, next three are Dan Daclow, Mike Monsef, and... |
03:34:07.34 | City Clerk | Fred Moore. Sorry, Carolyn Riveau. |
03:34:12.08 | Don Daglow | Don Daglow, EDAC member. My family has been involved in Sausalito for 120 years. And one of the things that troubles me about the area where we welcome people so much to town is that it looks like it's about 60 years old. It's been jerry-rigged ever since and adapted and just band-aided. This is a plan that I believe will address that. I've had the chance to ride the Star Ferry in Hong Kong, to ride the ferries around Seattle and the islands in Puget Sound. What there is of a Newport ferry, river ferries in Europe. What each of them had in common were all sorts of different levels of sophistication and complexity, but they all looked like they were working as they were intended to work. |
03:34:33.65 | City Clerk | Yeah. |
03:35:01.19 | Don Daglow | And they all looked as if somebody was still paying attention to them. We have suffered from having an area that didn't look like we were all paying attention, even though all of us in this room know that people were trying and making a sincere effort to do it. The political coordination wasn't there. The opportunity wasn't there. We have the chance to fix that. I would respectfully recommend that we do so by approving this. Thank you. |
03:35:28.56 | Mike Monsava | My name is Mike Monsava. I've been here for 50 years. So... |
03:35:34.68 | Mike Monsava | It makes me, first I want to make a correction, it's not seven years. This plan was on board for approval since late 1950s and... |
03:35:49.69 | Mike Monsava | And I got acquainted with it in 1978. |
03:35:54.82 | Mike Monsava | 1979. |
03:35:56.69 | Mike Monsava | So |
03:35:57.95 | Mike Monsava | I really appreciate what you have done. I'm so happy. I thought this is a dream for me because when I was a president of Chamber of Commerce, I wrote an article and I said, I have a dream. It was about the time of birthday of Martin Luther King and some |
03:36:14.58 | Mike Monsava | This was part of my dream. |
03:36:16.40 | Mike Monsava | And somebody wrote a dream, wrote, Martin Luther King had a dream, Mike has a nightmare. |
03:36:21.93 | Mike Monsava | So... |
03:36:23.30 | Mike Monsava | So I want to tell you |
03:36:25.56 | Mike Monsava | how far this one has been going. |
03:36:29.38 | Mike Monsava | I am so happy to see, and this is a legacy of this administration to let it happen. And it's happening folks, it's happening. And thank you to Mike Racks because this is one of the guys who's been into it |
03:36:43.30 | Mike Monsava | from the beginning. Every time I've been in a meeting, I've seen him over there. So, |
03:36:48.53 | Mike Monsava | again |
03:36:49.44 | Mike Monsava | I appreciate. I hope you approve that. And don't make, don't be a nitpicky in every items. Let's get it done. |
03:37:00.31 | Fred Moore | Given the hour, I will only endorse what my colleagues have been saying. Please, please. |
03:37:05.47 | Fred Moore | go ahead and approve this contract. |
03:37:07.83 | Fred Moore | And thank you, Janelle, for raising the issue of trees being... |
03:37:11.41 | Fred Moore | an important part of the project. One last thought. I do try to get my 10,000 steps in every day and I walk along the plaza through the queues of bikes and people. And I have a wonderful vision that you're all going to implement of a plaza with the separation of the bikes and the people and places for people to sit under trees and really enjoy our wonderful view. Thank you for all the work you've done and also for the local professionals group and their work. Thank you. |
03:37:39.51 | City Clerk | All right, Fred Moore, Michael Rex, and Steven Woodside. |
03:37:45.82 | Unknown | Good evening, council members. I support this agenda item and ask that you vote yes to approve the bid contract to start the ferry landing project. |
03:37:54.85 | Unknown | During your deliberations, please don't become a victim of analysis by paralysis. Don't cater to the desires of a few over the interests of the many. And finally, do not overlook the roadway toward good while seeking a path toward perfection. |
03:38:11.25 | Unknown | I've worked in real estate development for 45 years and I would be long since retired had I allowed myself to take on projects with risk rather than only looking for projects with perfect balance budgets, no neighborhood opposition, no imported dirt, confirmed parking counts, environmentally clean, free of easements, etc. The perfect projects are few and far between. |
03:38:36.46 | Unknown | Your approval tonight will allow a solid design development plan to go forward, which will enhance both resident and visitor experiences in the downtown. Our existing infrastructure is tired and an impediment to enjoying the space. Tracy Way is an area which morphed over time without any overall design plan. Tonight, you have an opportunity to bring cohesive to the various elements in downtown. |
03:39:02.72 | Unknown | The improvements for the ferry landing, Tracy Way and the surrounds, |
03:39:07.28 | Unknown | may undergo a process of evaluation over time of what does and doesn't work. Thankfully, the design before you tonight allows the flexibility to adjust and change while still maintaining its design integrity. |
03:39:21.45 | Unknown | I ask that you vote yes tonight to move forward. The improvements I believe will make you proud, our citizens proud, and visitors impressed. I hope by Christmas I can stroll my grandson down Tracy Way Promenade, sit in the plaza, enjoy the view of the ferry while eating an ice cream. A yes vote is a right vote. Thank you. |
03:39:47.51 | Michael Rex | Well, I'm Michael Rex, a member of the local professional group. |
03:39:52.82 | Michael Rex | I'm also a businessman in town. I've had my architectural practice here for over 40 years. |
03:39:58.54 | Michael Rex | And I was glad to hear tonight that we're recognized now as being a member of this community. |
03:40:05.34 | Michael Rex | Um, |
03:40:06.35 | Michael Rex | I've also have been pursuing creating a |
03:40:10.42 | Michael Rex | finer place downtown at the most beautiful part of our town. |
03:40:14.54 | Michael Rex | where our community can gather. |
03:40:17.19 | Michael Rex | For over 30 years. Okay. So tonight's an exciting night. |
03:40:23.28 | Michael Rex | for me and I think all of us. A couple of things, this new bike parking that you just see tonight on the east side of lot one is the best place we've found yet to put the bikes. And it addresses Madden's concern, |
03:40:40.65 | Michael Rex | It addresses the police concern about the congestion that we |
03:40:44.56 | Michael Rex | that was identified between buses and bikes on Humboldt. |
03:40:48.29 | Michael Rex | We even met with some of the key leadership of the Yacht Club, and they're saying it's better than what they saw before. |
03:40:57.07 | Michael Rex | Um, |
03:40:58.47 | Michael Rex | I'm absolutely confident that, um, |
03:41:01.05 | Michael Rex | We can create more parking on Humboldt Street. |
03:41:05.30 | Michael Rex | Yes, it needs more study, but we've, we've, I'm confident we can make that work and pick up more parking. And we have ideas of where the buses could go. I want to clarify. |
03:41:22.16 | Michael Rex | The alternate one, alternate one is an add-on to the |
03:41:28.96 | Michael Rex | but concrete to widen that sidewalk on humble concrete, but in your bid, |
03:41:34.58 | Michael Rex | there's a price to widen the sidewalk with asphalt. |
03:41:38.49 | Michael Rex | That should be a credit. |
03:41:40.30 | Michael Rex | that could be applied to this change order, we're going to need to put the bikes on the east side of lot one. |
03:41:48.21 | Michael Rex | There should be money coming back. Tracy Way has to be... |
03:41:52.11 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
03:41:52.23 | Michael Rex | Thank you very much, Stephen. Thank you. |
03:41:52.40 | City Clerk | Thank you very much. |
03:41:53.04 | Steven Woodside | Thanks. |
03:41:53.48 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
03:41:57.63 | Steven Woodside | I'm here really in gratitude for the way the community has stepped forward. And tonight I've noticed that even the person who doesn't like the plan is for it. Are you approving it? It's a real credit to so many people, but I do want to. |
03:42:11.47 | Steven Woodside | Single out as already has been singled out Michael Rex who just spoke. He's been spearheading this for so long and has energized a lot of the community in a very, very positive way. |
03:42:23.08 | Steven Woodside | supported by so many, it's hard to single anyone out again. But I will say Bill Hines has also had to take a few licks along the way, but he's really persevered. And it's wonderful to see that we finally have come together. Anticipating a favorable outcome, I do want to say to the mayor, you have really, really worked hard to keep this on track. |
03:42:49.22 | Steven Woodside | And you deserve the praise of the entire community. I also want to say to Joan Cox, there was skepticism when you were asking a lot of bid questions a couple of months ago. But I think hopefully now people appreciate how your expertise has contributed to a bid that is under budget. So again, thank you all. |
03:43:14.00 | City Clerk | Okay, okay. Amy Svenberg, Jeffrey Chase, and Babette McDougall. |
03:43:23.79 | Amy Svenberg | Hello and good evening. I am representing the Chamber of Commerce and also Poggio and Copita. I would just like to highlight that at Poggio, I look at Bay Street every day and see about 10 to 20 cars take a left. So... |
03:43:41.24 | Amy Svenberg | That really should happen because it happens all the time. |
03:43:45.90 | Amy Svenberg | Losing parking is a hot subject for any business member, any member of the business community in particular downtown. Um, |
03:43:54.88 | Amy Svenberg | And we've discussed this at nauseam in our board meetings. We really believe in this project. We would love for it to move forward. We think that. |
03:44:05.17 | Amy Svenberg | It needs to happen. We'd like it to happen this year. So it happens before next season. We understand that the funds are at risk if you don't move forward. So we would ask for you to move forward with that. I think there's a lot of value in continuing to look at the bicycles and where they're best placed, their safety concerns. And we see people go down all the time. So please do give that extra consideration. |
03:44:34.97 | Amy Svenberg | Thank you very much. |
03:44:38.14 | City Clerk | Jeffrey Chase. |
03:44:45.87 | Jeffrey Chase | Hello again, Mr. Mayor, and nice to see the room packed. I hope this microphone makes it through my whole little speech here. |
03:44:53.85 | Jeffrey Chase | This time. |
03:44:55.80 | Jeffrey Chase | I'm in favor of the ferry. Boats, bicycles, and buses are... |
03:45:02.02 | Jeffrey Chase | the three B's I travel on. |
03:45:07.07 | Jeffrey Chase | About the parking, I think it's time for a parking lot moratorium. |
03:45:12.43 | Jeffrey Chase | I think everybody that is driving a car, especially one |
03:45:16.97 | Jeffrey Chase | per person in the 2,000 pounds of steel in Sausalito |
03:45:23.86 | Jeffrey Chase | in Novato, in San Rafael, |
03:45:26.22 | Jeffrey Chase | in California, in the country, in the world, is making a mistake. |
03:45:32.60 | Jeffrey Chase | Did the prayer... |
03:45:33.97 | Jeffrey Chase | The prayer is for the oneness. |
03:45:36.67 | Jeffrey Chase | of the people and we are punishing ourselves |
03:45:40.90 | Jeffrey Chase | As a Detroiter, |
03:45:43.10 | Jeffrey Chase | I grew up |
03:45:44.24 | Jeffrey Chase | with cars. I've had cars. I don't have one now. So it doesn't feel too hypocritical to be talking about that. There's three spaces |
03:45:54.30 | Jeffrey Chase | parking spaces for every car, |
03:45:57.42 | Jeffrey Chase | One where they sleep. |
03:46:00.21 | Jeffrey Chase | One where they're going, |
03:46:02.17 | Jeffrey Chase | and one where they're stuck on Highway 101 during rush hour. |
03:46:09.29 | Jeffrey Chase | The other one is about trees and greenery. Right now we have a fence around South Dunphy Park |
03:46:15.83 | Jeffrey Chase | perhaps related to the protest, |
03:46:18.79 | Jeffrey Chase | of the Anchorage and of the homeless. Gavin Newsom just vowed to sweep the homeless, putting his fist into his open hand. Do not think that we are not going to fight back in Ross where he lives. |
03:46:34.14 | Jeffrey Chase | In Ross High School, where his kids go to school. In California, where he's threatening us. We will and we are. Thank you very much. |
03:46:46.88 | Adrian Brinton | Let's do it. |
03:46:53.65 | Unknown | Thank you for acknowledging me. |
03:46:55.74 | Unknown | So, |
03:46:55.88 | Babette McDougall | So I, |
03:46:56.94 | Babette McDougall | Sorry. I... |
03:46:59.00 | Babette McDougall | Absolutely. I'm supportive of this project for all the reasons that you've heard told here this evening. I don't know if our city attorney is still... |
03:47:07.18 | Babette McDougall | tuning in or not, but I think if not, then perhaps it's the vice mayor who could weigh in, someone, ideally the city attorney, because audibly I think it's a good idea to |
03:47:18.27 | Babette McDougall | Clarify the point of Tracy Way. |
03:47:20.97 | Babette McDougall | We've had so many discussions in the last several months. So we know that Tracy Way's ultimate disposition has to be settled by a public vote. So I think it would be a good idea for anyone who has any confusion about |
03:47:35.57 | Babette McDougall | the wisdom, in fact, of |
03:47:38.54 | Babette McDougall | including it in this broad scope |
03:47:40.68 | Babette McDougall | plan as we see it now. |
03:47:42.52 | Babette McDougall | but acknowledging that it is a pending proposition. |
03:47:46.70 | Babette McDougall | if this is indeed how it now stands. I think if the city attorney thinks it's wise, because it does have to do with requiring a public vote. So I just want to put this out there because I think people would like to see this go forward. You know, I don't know if you folks can, some of you don't know because you weren't here perhaps, but when Jazz and Blues by the Bay first started, we used to use Tracy Waite for the farmer's market on Friday nights, and it actually added |
03:48:12.88 | Babette McDougall | to the wonderfully festive spirit of jazz and blues and probably |
03:48:16.79 | Babette McDougall | the sum of that wonderful energy |
03:48:19.07 | Babette McDougall | Thank you. |
03:48:19.46 | Babette McDougall | had a lot to do with its successful launch that we still enjoy today. So I see a bright future for everyone personally. I think it would be really a prudent thing to do to audibly acknowledge the disposition, the pending disposition of Tracy Wade just for the record. Thank you. |
03:48:38.02 | City Clerk | All right. |
03:48:38.11 | Unknown | All right. |
03:48:38.16 | City Clerk | All right. |
03:48:38.21 | Babette McDougall | Right. |
03:48:38.43 | City Clerk | Now we're going to go to Zoom and we have Sandra Bushmaker. |
03:48:46.09 | Sandra Bushmaker | Good evening, everybody. Again. |
03:48:47.96 | Sandra Bushmaker | I just want to tell you how much I appreciate all the effort that's gone into this project, and I really appreciate the public input on this project, both pro and con. And I appreciate the patience of the council to listen to both sides of this particular issue. |
03:49:06.34 | Sandra Bushmaker | So there is something that is of concern to me, and it has to do with risk management and our dedication to reducing our risk, which has a direct impact on our city insurance. |
03:49:17.51 | Sandra Bushmaker | I don't hear a lot of discussion about safety studies, nor have I been able to find anything in this project |
03:49:25.54 | Sandra Bushmaker | that devotes city resources toward, or any resources for that matter, toward a safety analysis of this plan. I think it's really, really important that we do that. And I haven't seen anything in the paperwork |
03:49:41.93 | Sandra Bushmaker | Public paperwork addressing the Sausalito Yacht Harbors safety concerns that were presented to the Council. |
03:49:50.03 | Sandra Bushmaker | So basically, I think that |
03:49:52.41 | Sandra Bushmaker | that we need to address that for the sake of risk reduction. We need to look at the safety issues. And I don't see that front burner, and I'd like to see it front burner. Thank you. |
03:50:06.89 | City Clerk | Vicki Nichols. |
03:50:09.87 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
03:50:09.92 | Unknown | Thanks. |
03:50:10.11 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
03:50:16.03 | Vicki Nichols | I'm going to not talk about the pros and cons, but just a couple of questions. It sounds to me that I'm pretending I'm sitting here as a planning commissioner and |
03:50:25.82 | Vicki Nichols | that there are some missing aspects to this plan. You know, I'd say it might be more of a concept |
03:50:32.32 | Vicki Nichols | notwithstanding the time that's been spent to do this, which I appreciate it. But in the matter of the trees and in the parking, I hear the parking come up as a new issue, which means that it's not written into any plan. It's written in as a concept, which is always sort of a problem if you ask me, because it's the documentation. So that aside, that's just a personal thing that bothers me about what you're looking at, what's being discussed by the applicant as a concept, but not in the design or the plan as written that can be documented. |
03:51:06.35 | Vicki Nichols | It seems like there's a great comfort level of the public. Oh, well, it's just a detail. Yeah, it is a detail. So because of that detail, I would like to hear from the public works director. That was the plan, the plan change that I didn't know about tonight. None of us did really, until we saw it presented. I want to know exactly where the intention is to keep the Sally Stanford team. |
03:51:29.08 | Vicki Nichols | fountain. There's been a lot of discussion about this. |
03:51:32.58 | Vicki Nichols | We thought there was resolution. I just like that acknowledged on the public record. |
03:51:36.81 | Vicki Nichols | And a reminder that this is within the historic district. So when we're talking about Tracy Wake, |
03:51:42.16 | Vicki Nichols | Some of those sidewalks are surrounded by historic walls, |
03:51:46.08 | Vicki Nichols | That is officially documented as a point of historical interest, and those are character defining features. |
03:51:52.41 | Vicki Nichols | So at least as you move forward, we would love to at least be able to review this and look at it. |
03:51:57.53 | Vicki Nichols | and make some comments. Thank you. |
03:52:00.13 | Vicki Nichols | And by we, I mean, the historical preservation commission that has purview over this. |
03:52:07.86 | City Clerk | Sam Rubin |
03:52:11.17 | Sam Rubin | Yeah. |
03:52:11.59 | Sam Rubin | Thank you very much. I just really want to add my voice to the overwhelming chorus in support of finally, after years and years and years of deliberation, to finally approve a contract for the ferry landing. |
03:52:27.66 | Sam Rubin | um as a member of former member of the sustainability commission current member of the mayor's blue ribbon committee on parking uh the parking issue keeps coming up and the reality is |
03:52:38.42 | Sam Rubin | By turning the entrance into Sausalito and the gateway to Sausalito into the magnificent |
03:52:43.81 | Sam Rubin | welcoming. |
03:52:45.14 | Sam Rubin | that it could be for all the visitors that are critical to our tax base. |
03:52:49.92 | Sam Rubin | We have an opportunity to more than make up for any lost revenue from the parking, even if that wasn't already done through the agreement with the Sausler Yacht Harbor to replace those spots with the ones very close by. |
03:53:04.12 | Sam Rubin | So rather than take up more time, I just want to add my voice to the chorus in support and ask that you approve it, including the closure of Tracy Way. And I just want to say thank you to everyone who has put so many hours and so much work. |
03:53:17.76 | Sam Rubin | into putting this plan together and through sitting through all these meetings and all this deliberation. And I'm hopeful that we can finally move forward before we risk losing the funds and end up having to pay for this out of our own city coffers, as at some point the ferry landing will have to be replaced. |
03:53:34.90 | Sam Rubin | Thank you. |
03:53:37.91 | City Clerk | Morgan Pierce. |
03:53:42.53 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
03:53:42.57 | Morgan Pierce | Thank you. Can everyone hear me? |
03:53:46.73 | Morgan Pierce | Yes. |
03:53:46.97 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
03:53:47.04 | Morgan Pierce | Great. Good evening, Mayor Sobieski, Vice Mayor Cox, members of city council and city staff. My name is Morgan Pierce. I'm a resident of South Slita. I'm speaking to you this evening as president of South Slita Beautiful. |
03:53:57.65 | Morgan Pierce | First of all, we wish to thank all of our community members who have dedicated timeless hours towards creating a welcome solution to beautifying Saucyutu's front door. |
03:54:07.07 | Morgan Pierce | We're thrilled to see that the bids for the ferry landing improvements have come in below budget and are eager to see our community move forward with the implementation of this important project. |
03:54:15.39 | Morgan Pierce | As advocates for the maintenance and improvement of our public green spaces, we applaud you for your vision and fortitude in seeing this project to fruition. |
03:54:23.05 | Morgan Pierce | There is an adage that states, we don't build the church for Easter Sunday. We should accept that we can't accommodate every visitor wishing to park in Sausalito on the busiest days of the year. And we should be okay with saying that's all right, particularly when it results in a better environment for our residents, guests, and business owners. |
03:54:39.77 | Morgan Pierce | As you deliberate the awarding of the contract, please recognize that the improvements will be successful regardless of how pedestrian and bicycle circulation is handled. These are fluid elements that will in fact change over time and will require us as a community to flex with them and exercise creativity in their management. |
03:54:59.92 | Morgan Pierce | We encourage the City Council to award the construction contract to Baumann Landscaping, approve bid alternates 2 and 3, and join us in celebrating the execution of this major improvement for our city. |
03:55:10.91 | Morgan Pierce | As many have noted, we have a limited time to utilize the funding offered, so please act now. |
03:55:18.43 | Morgan Pierce | Thank you. |
03:55:22.13 | City Clerk | Martha Loftus. |
03:55:26.97 | Martha Loftus | Hi, can you hear me? |
03:55:28.47 | City Clerk | Yes. |
03:55:29.28 | Martha Loftus | Okay, thank you. I think I was on double mute. So I want to apologize for not being able to be there in person tonight. I had every intention to be there, but I've been exposed to COVID and rather than exposing all of y'all, even with a mask, I'm here at home. I do want to add my voice to echo the overwhelming response and enthusiasm to moving forward and |
03:55:53.16 | Martha Loftus | approving this proposal, including alternates, bid alternates two and three. Let's move forward. Let's approve this. Let's celebrate ourselves and the success and doing something that's grant money that's free to us, although I will echo comments that we have paid for it with our tax basis. And those of us that are relatively new within the most recent couple of years have a very high tax basis for living in a beautiful town. |
03:56:24.30 | Martha Loftus | So thank you very much, and I appreciate your consideration and approval. |
03:56:32.78 | Adrian Brinton | Michelle Dumont. |
03:56:38.54 | Unknown | Hi, I'm happy to be here tonight again, supporting this really wonderful project and all the local design professionals and community members that are |
03:56:49.00 | Unknown | sitting in the chamber with you tonight and everyone that's worked so hard on this, |
03:56:53.49 | Unknown | I urge you to vote in favor of the Ferry Landing Project, including the closure of Tracy Way, |
03:56:59.78 | Unknown | It was really great to just hear how this used to be a farmer's market. I would love to see that happen again. |
03:57:06.25 | Unknown | And really this project is about building a community, continuing to invest in our community. |
03:57:13.40 | Unknown | The new ferry landing in Tracy Way |
03:57:16.14 | Unknown | will together become a stunning entry point that reflects a charm and spirit of Sausalito. |
03:57:22.06 | Unknown | Now is the time to make this a reality. I just heard that we've got a permit. That's great news. Let's pour the concrete. |
03:57:28.99 | Unknown | Let's continue the positivity. |
03:57:31.39 | Unknown | Thank you so much. |
03:57:34.80 | City Clerk | Peter van meter. |
03:57:40.94 | Peter Van Meter | I would like to say that as a 50 year resident, 22 year advocate of this project, |
03:57:48.06 | Peter Van Meter | It's thrilling to finally see it come to this point of moving ahead. |
03:57:52.40 | Peter Van Meter | I want to thank the massive public outpouring that's been made. |
03:57:55.74 | Peter Van Meter | throughout this process. |
03:57:57.88 | Peter Van Meter | And I cannot. |
03:57:59.25 | Peter Van Meter | Add to the eloquent. |
03:58:00.60 | Peter Van Meter | comments and support that have been made by the public here today. |
03:58:04.40 | Peter Van Meter | Also want to thank in advance the city council for moving this ahead to construction. So we're going to see it actually be completed. And this, in fact, will cement your legacy as one of the people, group of people who did something most important for the city of Sausalito. |
03:58:20.46 | Peter Van Meter | So thank you again. |
03:58:22.15 | Peter Van Meter | and much appreciation. |
03:58:24.16 | Peter Van Meter | from someone who's been behind this for so many years. |
03:58:26.74 | Peter Van Meter | We really are very, very happy. |
03:58:32.31 | City Clerk | Okay, no further public comment. |
03:58:35.06 | Mary Sobieski | Okay, thank you city clerk. We will close public comment and to get things started. I'll put a motion on the floor, which I'm reading from the staff report. The staff report is, and the motion I'm making is to adopt a resolution of the city council of the city of Sausalito authorizing the city manager to number one, approve the plans and specifications for the ferry land side improvement project on file at the city clerk's office. Number two, the city council waves any irregularities in the bid and authorizes the city manager to execute the construction contract with Bowman Landscaping Incorporated for the Ferry Landside Improvement Project for the base bid in the amount of $1,316,450, plus bid alternatives two and three for a total construction contract of $1,416,000 from FTA and GGBHTD funds. endpoint three authorizes the city manager to execute change orders for an in a contingency amount from FTA and GG B.H.T.D. funds. Endpoint 3 authorizes the city manager to execute change orders for an contingency amount of up to $258,511 for the Ferry Landside Improvement Project. That's my motion. |
03:59:31.91 | Councilmember Blaustein | Second. |
03:59:32.33 | Councilmember Kelman | Thank you. |
03:59:32.57 | Mary Sobieski | And emotion is made and seconded, and that serves as the beginning of our discussion. |
03:59:36.23 | Mary Sobieski | Councilmember Cole of Weissmere. |
03:59:37.43 | Councilmember Kelman | Weissmere. |
03:59:38.22 | Councilmember Kelman | Yeah, and vice mayor, I wish your hand up. I'm going to see to you. I'm hoping that you can re-explain exactly which plans we should be voting on based on the bid. This language in the resolution on file at the city clerk's office is opaque to me, so please. |
03:59:54.34 | Mary Sobieski | Weissmer Cox. |
03:59:57.14 | Mary Sobieski | You're muted by Sparencox. |
04:00:00.30 | Vice Mayor Cox | Thank you, Mayor. I wanted to clarify that although the recommended motion says |
04:00:04.53 | Vice Mayor Cox | Adopt a resolution authorizing the city manager to approve the plans and specifications. |
04:00:09.61 | Vice Mayor Cox | The actual resolution has the city council approving the plans and specifications. So I wanted to clarify that in your motion, mayor, |
04:00:17.37 | Mary Sobieski | I'll modify my motion to make it compliant with the vice mayor's comment. |
04:00:21.12 | Vice Mayor Cox | Okay. And then, um, |
04:00:23.77 | Vice Mayor Cox | The plans and specifications we are approving tonight are the ones that were |
04:00:28.95 | Vice Mayor Cox | transmitted that include the bicycle parking on Humboldt. |
04:00:34.91 | Vice Mayor Cox | We will be entering it, as I understand it, the plan, what we're going to do is give direction to staff. |
04:00:43.04 | Vice Mayor Cox | And the reason we're authorizing the city manager to execute change orders is that we're going to direct that staff, um, |
04:00:53.01 | Vice Mayor Cox | enter into a change order with Bowman to adopt the plans presented by the working group |
04:01:01.60 | Vice Mayor Cox | in the presentation tonight, which contemplates the bicycle parking on the east side of lot one. |
04:01:11.14 | Vice Mayor Cox | And my request is that when we do that, we make sure that the |
04:01:20.45 | Vice Mayor Cox | city manager or the public works director brings that change order back to us for approval |
04:01:24.86 | Vice Mayor Cox | so that we're actually approving the revisions to the plans. |
04:01:28.58 | Vice Mayor Cox | that include the bicycle parking in lot one and not along Humboldt. |
04:01:34.86 | Mary Sobieski | So for the purposes of my motion, let's let the record reflect what the vice mayor just said in terms of the definition of the project plan and specifications. |
04:01:42.68 | Mary Sobieski | in item one. |
04:01:43.70 | Councilmember Kelman | Can I ask the Vice Mayor for more clarification? Thank you, Vice Mayor. |
04:01:48.99 | Councilmember Kelman | So we're not approving removal of more spots from lot one, but the suggestion is to allow the city manager to then |
04:02:00.73 | Councilmember Kelman | execute a change order that would remove the |
04:02:03.72 | Councilmember Kelman | spots in lot one. |
04:02:05.46 | Vice Mayor Cox | Thank you. |
04:02:05.49 | Councilmember Kelman | Thank you. |
04:02:05.51 | Vice Mayor Cox | We're directing staff. |
04:02:07.06 | Vice Mayor Cox | to proceed with a change order that |
04:02:09.83 | Vice Mayor Cox | uh, |
04:02:10.64 | Vice Mayor Cox | and tails. |
04:02:11.75 | Vice Mayor Cox | removal of more spots from lot one on a temporary annual basis as described in the public works director's presentation. |
04:02:20.44 | Vice Mayor Cox | Let's see. |
04:02:22.96 | Bonnie McGregor | Thank you. |
04:02:23.60 | Vice Mayor Cox | Karen Hollweg, And then, and then i'm also asking that we direct staff to come back to us with alternative plans for. |
04:02:23.72 | Bonnie McGregor | And then |
04:02:31.76 | Vice Mayor Cox | Um, |
04:02:33.18 | Vice Mayor Cox | accommodating that parking elsewhere, perpendicularly along Humboldt, |
04:02:39.04 | Vice Mayor Cox | through perhaps a revised agreement with the Sausalito Yacht Harbor, through re-striping of Lot 3, whatever those options may be, I'd like to see us further explore those and identify the best logistically and financially feasible proposal. |
04:02:57.85 | Councilmember Kelman | And so, Vice Mayor, if we wanted to, as a, I'm trying to figure out how best to have a conversation beyond what was actually presented. So now we've got all these moving parts. I, for one, would like to see us execute on parking on Humboldt Street. And so I would want to see a change order for parking and recoup some spots there. |
04:03:19.40 | Councilmember Kelman | So, I don't know if that's an amendment to this motion or if it's one of the things we're |
04:03:23.25 | Vice Mayor Cox | It's not an amendment. |
04:03:23.30 | Councilmember Kelman | It's not an admission. |
04:03:23.89 | Councilmember Kelman | Thank you. |
04:03:24.06 | Councilmember Kelman | So we, |
04:03:24.79 | Councilmember Kelman | We have. |
04:03:24.97 | Vice Mayor Cox | We have to adopt, we have to |
04:03:26.58 | Vice Mayor Cox | We can only approve the project that was bid. |
04:03:29.02 | Vice Mayor Cox | And then we can direct staff to make changes and to bring back those changes to us. |
04:03:34.51 | Councilmember Kelman | I see. Okay, thank you for that. |
04:03:37.06 | Mary Sobieski | Any other questions, comments by Samara Cox before I recognize Council Member Hoffman or do reserve? Okay, Council Member Hoffman. |
04:03:45.48 | Councilmember Hoffman | I think it's a follow up actually on some of the comments from Councilmember Cox. I think |
04:03:53.12 | Councilmember Hoffman | to be precise in our language is we're not removing any parking spots with regard to bike parking were asking for a change order for a flexible. Re you know movable enclosure that can be responsive to. |
04:04:11.08 | Councilmember Hoffman | different conditions at the time to be administered by our public safety officers and also in conjunction, I think, with some sort of safety review on putting those multimodal, forcing them into one |
04:04:29.03 | Councilmember Hoffman | congested area. I know that we've received a letter from our |
04:04:32.81 | Councilmember Hoffman | tenant in that area, and I think we need to be responsive to that and sensitive to that, and also in the context of reducing our risk management and understanding and our risk assessment and understanding that we need a safety report in order to show that that's a reasonable decision. |
04:04:53.21 | Councilmember Hoffman | going forward. So I, |
04:04:56.79 | Councilmember Hoffman | I can help craft that language. |
04:04:59.22 | Councilmember Hoffman | I saw you were nodding your head, so you didn't- I am. I agree. |
04:05:00.77 | Vice Mayor Cox | I am, I agree that that is the direction to staff Council Member Hoffman, separate from the resolution we're being asked to adopt this evening. |
04:05:07.45 | Councilmember Hoffman | Okay, that's mine. Okay, thank you. I think you agree with that language that I couched in. I do. Absolutely. So what I can do is I can draft that and I'll provide that specific language to Walford for inclusion in the minutes and also with regard to our public works director and city manager. Great. |
04:05:09.77 | Vice Mayor Cox | Thank you. |
04:05:09.80 | Vicki Nichols | Yeah. |
04:05:10.00 | Vice Mayor Cox | . |
04:05:11.54 | Vicki Nichols | I do. |
04:05:12.43 | Vicki Nichols | Absolutely. |
04:05:30.91 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
04:05:30.93 | Councilmember Kelman | and then comments yes well just more clarification based on trying to understand what we've received versus what might change the closure of tracy way was that bid |
04:05:39.50 | Councilmember Kelman | out. |
04:05:40.48 | Councilmember Kelman | and approved, so we have design immunity as to that. |
04:05:45.29 | Vice Mayor Cox | Yes, one of the alternates actually has to do with putting gravel on gravel, paved material on Tracy way to allow the area to be more of a pedestrian friendly walkway, but we envision. |
04:06:00.14 | Vice Mayor Cox | that |
04:06:00.80 | Vice Mayor Cox | that in order to |
04:06:03.21 | Vice Mayor Cox | finalize all of the legal |
04:06:05.40 | Vice Mayor Cox | aspects of the closure of Tracy Way, that will come back to us |
04:06:09.40 | Vice Mayor Cox | at our first meeting in first or second meeting in September. |
04:06:14.08 | Councilmember Kelman | Okay, so I'm sorry, this is more of a discussion. So on page eight of the presentation, this is just an image, but the depiction is of a paved walkway of Tracy Way, which raises all sorts of climate concerns for me, drainage, et cetera. |
04:06:29.89 | Councilmember Kelman | The devil is in the details to make this as the dream that everybody has here. And so I don't want to just leave those to a whim. So vice mayor, is that become something that we articulate as to the gravel? |
04:06:41.90 | Councilmember Kelman | or it's a change order that comes back. |
04:06:45.55 | Vice Mayor Cox | Karen Hollweg, So that's up to the Council, the the the bid alternate that you're being asked to approve this evening and and that is the subject of the motion is. |
04:06:55.08 | Vice Mayor Cox | I think the subject of the motion. |
04:06:59.03 | Vice Mayor Cox | Actually, I don't think it is the subject of the motion. Yes, it is. It's plus bid alternates two and three. That was the subject of your motion. And bid alternate two is to place gravel paved material on Tracy way to allow the area to be more of a pedestrian friendly walkway. So that was part of the plans and specifications that were the subject of the bid. |
04:07:18.71 | Vice Mayor Cox | by the contractor, as I understand it. |
04:07:20.90 | Councilmember Kelman | Okay, and then I'll just note like the broken record that I am with trees, that trees are not in the bid and trees are not free other than the two you're giving us, Mayor. Perhaps more. Anybody? So how do we make sure that that direction is given because trees are going to like the loud? I think. |
04:07:36.93 | Mary Sobieski | I think now Director McGowan has the answer we asked him to bring us an hour ago. |
04:07:41.14 | Mary Sobieski | Director McGowan. Thank you. |
04:07:42.23 | Kevin McGowan | Yes, trees are part of the package. Speak for the trees, please. Definitely. You can even see it on some of the exhibits that we have. You kind of paraphrase them quickly. You know, we have 25-gallon trees that go in in the plaza, five of them. They tend to be live oaks. I can get into the specifics if we have to. We have three trees going in in the area near Sausalito Yacht Club. Okay. And we also have six trees going in at the end of Tracy Way. There's also a bioretention area that has bushes and trees in that area as well. So we have quite a few different trees, species, plants, and irrigation. You had also asked a little bit about cost. The costs for these are not broken down specifically. We have a planting sub item, which is a lump sum item for putting the plants in at $90,000 from Bauman Landscaping. We also have a bid item for irrigation at $70,000 for making sure that these are irrigated. |
04:08:44.60 | Councilmember Kelman | And so are those on on your presentation on page eight, where you have the expenses, the category, cost and comment, or is that on a different document? I do note for the record that the trees as articulated are called out in the plans on page six of the presentation. So when we go back to wonder where those are, I see those as articulated by Director McGowan. |
04:09:05.48 | Kevin McGowan | Yeah, on page five, you can see the diagram of the general plan. As far as the specifics, those are located in a separate document, which is included with your packet, which is the plan set. You can take a look at those to find out the size, the location, and the species of the plants themselves. I can direct you to those plan sets, but didn't want to take up everybody's time on that much detail. |
04:09:30.67 | Councilmember Kelman | Okay, fair enough. I think that's on the record, and my friends at South Slita Beautiful have heard Director McGowan. |
04:09:37.86 | Mary Sobieski | Anyone else specially recognized? Mayor, I saw that the city |
04:09:39.82 | Councilmember Kelman | Thank you. |
04:09:39.83 | Vice Mayor Cox | Mayor, I saw that the city attorney turned on his camera. |
04:09:42.77 | Mary Sobieski | City Attorney. |
04:09:44.14 | Sergio | Yeah, so there has been some pretty detailed discussion about which plans and specifications are before you and given staff included in their staff presentation design changes that are likely not reflected in the plans that are in the packet. My suggestion here to deal with that issue and ensure the city has appropriate design immunity is that your motion one. |
04:10:05.64 | Sergio | adopt the resolution as drafted in the packet to |
04:10:10.16 | Sergio | that resolution authorizes the city manager to execute change orders for the project, so you can direct the city manager |
04:10:17.35 | Sergio | to execute a change order with those design changes and also direct staff to come back with a resolution that approves the revised plans and specifications as a consent item on our future agenda. |
04:10:28.72 | Mary Sobieski | Okay. So city attorney, can I amend my motion with that second bit that you just described? |
04:10:35.71 | Sergio | Yes, you can. I believe Vice Mayor Cox had had had some, some comment on that issue. |
04:10:42.64 | Mary Sobieski | We'll be ahead of me on it as usual. |
04:10:44.48 | Mary Sobieski | Go ahead, Bryce Mayor. |
04:10:45.71 | Vice Mayor Cox | In our packet, so I have the privilege of having the entire packet printed out for me, we have. |
04:10:51.01 | Vice Mayor Cox | the plans and specifications in our packet. |
04:10:53.93 | Vice Mayor Cox | the plans, and that is what we're approving. And those are what are the subject of the |
04:10:59.18 | Vice Mayor Cox | resolution that |
04:11:00.82 | Vice Mayor Cox | is also in our packet. |
04:11:03.85 | Vice Mayor Cox | Simply approving the resolution, I think addresses everything the city attorney just said. |
04:11:10.33 | Vice Mayor Cox | What I was trying to do was give the direction to the |
04:11:11.63 | Unknown | giving. |
04:11:16.70 | Vice Mayor Cox | city manager of what those change orders would look like based on discussion. |
04:11:24.39 | Sergio | And perhaps this may be a question for the public works director to confirm that the |
04:11:29.57 | Sergio | changes that were described in the staff presentation are fully included in the plans and specifications. |
04:11:36.83 | Vice Mayor Cox | They are not city attorney. So this is something I mentioned now twice this evening. So I asked that of that. So this, the public works director clarified earlier that the drawings in the presentation are not part of what we're approving tonight. |
04:11:51.66 | Vice Mayor Cox | We are giving direction tonight to |
04:11:54.06 | Vice Mayor Cox | implement those drawings by way of change order. |
04:11:57.58 | Unknown | See you. |
04:11:57.65 | Vice Mayor Cox | Very good. |
04:11:58.44 | Vice Mayor Cox | The drawing the plans and specifications we're approving tonight are those that were transmitted to the. |
04:12:05.57 | Vice Mayor Cox | three contractors who provided bids and that are attached in our packet this evening. |
04:12:13.14 | Vice Mayor Cox | you know, all of the |
04:12:14.75 | Vice Mayor Cox | the, all of the division, |
04:12:17.18 | Vice Mayor Cox | I think that's a good question. |
04:12:20.05 | Vice Mayor Cox | zero and one specifications are in our packet and |
04:12:23.89 | Vice Mayor Cox | thumbnail sketch, you know, eight by eight and a half by 11. |
04:12:28.31 | Vice Mayor Cox | printouts of the plans are included in our packet tonight, but those do not include |
04:12:32.84 | Vice Mayor Cox | As I mentioned earlier, those contemplate bike parking along Humboldt. We are tonight directing that staff return to us |
04:12:41.51 | Vice Mayor Cox | with a change order to facilitate bicycle parking in lot one as better described by council member Hoffman. |
04:12:53.32 | Sergio | David Vogelpohl, Ph.D.: Now that that would address my concern with respect to the design immunity issue, as long as the Council approves the revised design in some form, whether that's the change order or. |
04:13:03.13 | Sergio | via separate resolution, I think the city would be adequately protected. |
04:13:07.99 | Mary Sobieski | So I'll just add a fourth point to my motion, which is, and check me here by spare. |
04:13:12.97 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. |
04:13:13.10 | Mary Sobieski | directs a change order to see manager to make a change order that aligns with the presentation concerning modified bark parking that was made by staff today. |
04:13:24.83 | Vice Mayor Cox | Yeah, I'm not, so the presentation that was made by staff is not what's in my |
04:13:32.02 | Vice Mayor Cox | written materials, so I'm not clear. |
04:13:35.04 | Vice Mayor Cox | this is the same issue we had six months ago where the working group continued to refine the plans up to the point |
04:13:43.10 | Vice Mayor Cox | of the presentation. So what was published with the staff report is not what we saw |
04:13:47.27 | Vice Mayor Cox | tonight. |
04:13:48.89 | Vice Mayor Cox | That's why I had proposed |
04:13:50.97 | Vice Mayor Cox | that staff come back to us with a change order. If you're comfortable, |
04:13:55.08 | Vice Mayor Cox | directing staff and |
04:13:56.89 | Vice Mayor Cox | granting design immunity to the plans, |
04:14:00.37 | Vice Mayor Cox | provided in the presentation this evening, |
04:14:02.61 | Vice Mayor Cox | then that presentation needs to get attached to this |
04:14:06.05 | Mary Sobieski | you |
04:14:06.48 | Vice Mayor Cox | Thank you. |
04:14:06.51 | Mary Sobieski | Thanks. |
04:14:06.61 | Vice Mayor Cox | staff. |
04:14:06.81 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. |
04:14:06.93 | Vice Mayor Cox | Thank you. |
04:14:06.98 | Mary Sobieski | pork. |
04:14:08.05 | Mary Sobieski | City Attorney is that satisfactory. |
04:14:10.29 | Sergio | Yes, and additionally the design review sorry the design immunity statute allows the Council to delegate authority to. |
04:14:18.42 | Sergio | approve plans and specifications as part of any discretionary decision so as part of the city manager approving a change order. |
04:14:25.66 | Sergio | If that is the direction the council gives, I also think that that would accomplish the purposes of the design immunity statute. |
04:14:33.46 | Vice Mayor Cox | So then that would be the fourth point prong of your motion, Mayor, which is to... |
04:14:33.56 | Sergio | So then, |
04:14:38.64 | Mary Sobieski | I made that. And Councilmember Blastine. Happy to second that. Thank you very much, Councilmember. |
04:14:41.93 | Vice Mayor Cox | Thank you. |
04:14:41.95 | Councilmember Blaustein | Happy to second that. |
04:14:44.19 | Councilmember Blaustein | enthusiastically, because I'm thrilled to see this move forward. Thank you. |
04:14:45.39 | Mary Sobieski | Thanks. |
04:14:47.57 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. |
04:14:47.60 | Vice Mayor Cox | Thank you. |
04:14:47.62 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. |
04:14:47.67 | Vice Mayor Cox | for the first time. |
04:14:47.74 | Mary Sobieski | And... |
04:14:47.82 | Mary Sobieski | with the |
04:14:47.97 | Vice Mayor Cox | Thank you. |
04:14:48.00 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. |
04:14:48.04 | Vice Mayor Cox | Thank you. |
04:14:48.46 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. |
04:14:48.56 | Vice Mayor Cox | Does the city clerk have that motion in mind or do we need to repeat it? |
04:14:53.29 | Vice Mayor Cox | So I need... |
04:14:53.41 | Mary Sobieski | I can repeat the whole motion. Oh, do you mean Councilmember Hoffman's motion? |
04:14:57.37 | Vice Mayor Cox | No, I'm asking if the city clerk |
04:14:59.58 | Vice Mayor Cox | Was listening. |
04:15:01.30 | Mary Sobieski | I'll just read it. It's the recommended motion from the staff report. So adopt a resolution of the city council, the city of South Salido authorizing the city manager to one approve the plans and specifications for the ferry land site improvement project on file at the city clerk's office to the city council waves any irregularities in the bid and authorizes the city manager to execute the construction contract with Bowman landscaping incorporated |
04:15:21.89 | Mary Sobieski | For the Ferry Landside Improvement Project for the base bid in the amount of $1,316,450 plus bid alternatives two and three for a complete construction contract of $1,416,000 from FTA NGGB HTD funds. Point three authorizes the city manager to execute change orders for a contingency amount of up to $258,511 for the Ferry Landside Improvement Project. And now point four directs the city manager to execute a change order for the design specification aligning with that presented by staff today for bicycle parking on the east side of lot one. |
04:16:06.22 | Vice Mayor Cox | I have. |
04:16:06.62 | Vice Mayor Cox | And that delegates to the |
04:16:06.91 | Unknown | Thank you. |
04:16:06.93 | Mary Sobieski | And |
04:16:07.30 | Unknown | Absolutely. |
04:16:07.72 | Unknown | I know. |
04:16:08.01 | Unknown | Yeah. |
04:16:08.09 | Mary Sobieski | Yeah. |
04:16:08.18 | Unknown | Thank you. |
04:16:11.10 | Vice Mayor Cox | city manager the authority to approve |
04:16:14.54 | Vice Mayor Cox | the plans and specifications that accompany that change order. |
04:16:19.16 | Mary Sobieski | and that delegates to the city manager |
04:16:21.86 | Mary Sobieski | power to approve |
04:16:23.52 | Mary Sobieski | The. |
04:16:24.60 | Vice Mayor Cox | plans and specifications, |
04:16:26.88 | Vice Mayor Cox | that accompany that change order. |
04:16:29.76 | Mary Sobieski | that company that change order. |
04:16:31.58 | Vice Mayor Cox | um, |
04:16:31.85 | Mary Sobieski | City Clerk. And now that's it. Now Councilmember Hoffman, what did we get from that? |
04:16:31.89 | Vice Mayor Cox | I agree. |
04:16:32.07 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
04:16:36.22 | Councilmember Hoffman | So the language that I had proposed with regard to the bike parking, I think that needs to be in the motion. |
04:16:41.94 | Mary Sobieski | Can you elaborate on that? |
04:16:42.97 | Councilmember Hoffman | Um, yes. So my language was authorize the city manager to issue an |
04:16:50.60 | Councilmember Hoffman | a change order. |
04:16:52.32 | Councilmember Hoffman | for seasonal... |
04:16:53.94 | Councilmember Hoffman | bike parking in parking lot one using a flexible movable system that may be used in a way to maximize |
04:17:05.91 | Councilmember Hoffman | parking spaces in lot one. Furthermore, the bike parking plan will be flexible and will be implemented in a way that reduces safety risks and is consistent with a risk management assessment. |
04:17:19.19 | Councilmember Hoffman | as well as the city's tenants use |
04:17:23.24 | Councilmember Hoffman | of their leaseholds. |
04:17:26.07 | Councilmember Hoffman | In addition to this, it will be accompanied by |
04:17:30.82 | Councilmember Hoffman | a safety assessment on the location, the best and safest location in parking lot one as administered by our safety experts, the chief of police. |
04:17:43.57 | Mary Sobieski | Okay, so you got that recorded on the record, C-Click. I know it's a lot. Yeah, that's right. |
04:17:48.35 | Mary Sobieski | Any objection to that vice mayor? |
04:17:50.51 | Vice Mayor Cox | I want to clarify that I would like to clarify that that is as depicted |
04:17:57.22 | Vice Mayor Cox | in the presentation made to the city council tonight, right? So that there's a, |
04:18:03.11 | Cass Green | Connection. |
04:18:03.43 | Vice Mayor Cox | And then I do want to reiterate that |
04:18:07.20 | Vice Mayor Cox | that that includes the approval, the delegation of authority from the city council to the city manager to approve the plans and specifications that implement that change. |
04:18:18.08 | Mary Sobieski | any objections. |
04:18:18.94 | Mary Sobieski | Here? Okay. All right. So, so that is the motion. |
04:18:22.60 | Vice Mayor Cox | The city attorney is looking perplexed. Are you good, Sergio? |
04:18:22.91 | Mary Sobieski | I was saying |
04:18:26.25 | Sergio | Yeah, I'm a little... |
04:18:27.85 | Sergio | concerned about the requirement that that language imposes to conduct a new safety study. |
04:18:34.28 | Sergio | and also who would be responsible for determining whether or not the design comports with a safety study. |
04:18:42.43 | Sergio | and whether or not there is authority or budget in the project to conduct a safety study, because we do not have a contract in place for that. |
04:18:51.36 | Sergio | Um, |
04:18:52.15 | Vice Mayor Cox | I thought she had talked about that being conducted by the chief of, by the chief of |
04:18:52.22 | Sergio | I thought, |
04:18:57.79 | Vice Mayor Cox | police. |
04:18:58.50 | Mary Sobieski | I think it's an undefined term, but is the chief of police? |
04:18:59.39 | Councilmember Hoffman | that's what we're doing. |
04:19:01.47 | Councilmember Hoffman | A safety study for |
04:19:05.30 | Councilmember Hoffman | circulation issues is a term of art. And my concern is that |
04:19:09.84 | Councilmember Hoffman | from a risk management |
04:19:11.93 | Councilmember Hoffman | perspective and from an immunity perspective, |
04:19:14.80 | Councilmember Hoffman | that we have to make decisions that are reasonable and don't create dangerous conditions, |
04:19:20.86 | Councilmember Hoffman | specifically if there are dangerous conditions created |
04:19:23.96 | Councilmember Hoffman | a reasonably foreseeable risk of the kind of injury that might occur. And so we're going to all these links to... |
04:19:31.83 | Councilmember Hoffman | A, reduce our litigation risk, B, increase safety, |
04:19:36.35 | Councilmember Hoffman | and C, |
04:19:39.05 | Councilmember Hoffman | in a public way, make sure that |
04:19:41.66 | Councilmember Hoffman | everybody's on the same page that we are moving forward in a way that is the |
04:19:47.32 | Councilmember Hoffman | with risk management and risk reduction as part of our decision-making process. |
04:19:53.00 | Vice Mayor Cox | So instead of safety plan, can you say safety evaluation? Sure. By the chief of police with the assistance, you know, of Parisi as necessary, but. Yeah, I mean, I don't think we have to, I don't think I have to say the chief of police. The safety evaluation rather than, because the safety study implies hiring another consultant to do another. |
04:19:53.53 | Babette McDougall | I'm like, |
04:19:53.71 | Councilmember Hoffman | safety. |
04:20:03.06 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. |
04:20:03.30 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
04:20:14.25 | Vice Mayor Cox | work. We're just simply ensuring that we've done the evaluation necessary to ensure- I'm fine with the safety evaluation. Okay. |
04:20:21.73 | Vice Mayor Cox | Great. |
04:20:22.91 | Mary Sobieski | Okay, so yes, Council Member Boston. |
04:20:25.50 | Councilmember Blaustein | I mean, I'm obviously not opposed to safety. I think it's really important, and I know we've been in collaboration with our police department, but I just want to make sure that this is not going to delay implementation of construction because I mean, or that it would be done in cohort with the direction to staff. |
04:20:43.04 | Councilmember Hoffman | biggest concern. I wouldn't think so. I mean, we're going to have the current system that we have right now and then we have till next spring, right? That's when we're going to be implementing the new bike parking. |
04:20:54.02 | Vicki Nichols | Right. |
04:20:55.02 | Councilmember Hoffman | The current corral is the current bike. Yes, the director, public works director, said that in his presentation. |
04:21:01.11 | Councilmember Hoffman | So I wouldn't expect that to slow us down. Agreed. |
04:21:07.96 | Mary Sobieski | Okay, let us call the question on the motion. |
04:21:11.20 | City Clerk | That's when I remember last time. |
04:21:12.47 | Councilmember Hoffman | Yes, enthusiastically. |
04:21:14.44 | City Clerk | I don't remember Hoffman. |
04:21:15.84 | Councilmember Hoffman | Yes. After seven years. Yes. |
04:21:18.53 | City Clerk | That's when we're coming. |
04:21:19.28 | Adrian Brinton | Thank you. |
04:21:19.39 | Councilmember Hoffman | Yes, with truth. |
04:21:19.50 | City Clerk | Yes, with |
04:21:20.52 | Adrian Brinton | Vice Mayor Cox. |
04:21:22.24 | Adrian Brinton | Thank you. |
04:21:22.25 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
04:21:22.32 | City Clerk | HAPPY. |
04:21:22.39 | Councilmember Kelman | Thank you. |
04:21:22.42 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
04:21:22.48 | Unknown | Thank you. |
04:21:22.52 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
04:21:22.59 | Unknown | Thank you. |
04:21:22.61 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
04:21:22.69 | Adrian Brinton | Thank you. |
04:21:22.73 | City Clerk | Yes. |
04:21:22.76 | Adrian Brinton | I have a question. |
04:21:22.88 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
04:21:22.93 | Adrian Brinton | Thank you. |
04:21:22.96 | Councilmember Hoffman | Yeah. |
04:21:23.10 | Adrian Brinton | Thank you. |
04:21:23.74 | City Clerk | Okay. |
04:21:24.40 | Mary Sobieski | Mayor Sobieski. So thank you very much, my colleagues. Did you say yes? I'm still just saying, I haven't voted yes yet. I'm just taking my prerogative to actually get a hoo-yah here. Thank you, Councilmember Hoffman. |
04:21:27.94 | Willie McDevitt | Did you say yes? |
04:21:38.14 | Mary Sobieski | thank you vice mayor cox thank you councilmember blousey and thank you councilmember kelman it is thank you community thank you pioneers of this idea it is a step forward |
04:21:48.65 | Mary Sobieski | It is a positive step. I enthusiastically vote yes. The motion carries unanimously. Congratulations. |
04:22:13.50 | Mary Sobieski | We will now go on to item 5B. |
04:22:17.25 | Mary Sobieski | uh adopt a resolution approving the encroachment agreement for the location of a 19 seat parklet and new signage balcony walls and awnings that would project into the public right away and authorization to serve alcoholic beverages |
04:22:32.57 | Councilmember Kelman | Hey guys, please allow us to finish the meeting. Actually, let's take a... |
04:22:36.79 | Mary Sobieski | Three minute bio break. |
04:22:37.97 | Mary Sobieski | since we all need it, and we will be back in |
04:22:44.17 | Mary Sobieski | The comment otherwise adopt a resolution approving an encouragement agreement for the location of a 19 street parklet and new signage balcony walls awnings that would project into the public right away and authorization to serve alcoholic beverages in the public right away at 813 1517. Would you kindly pull the doors shut bridgeway proposed under project 2024 dash 00082. |
04:23:09.97 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. |
04:23:10.05 | Mary Sobieski | you |
04:23:10.22 | Mary Sobieski | Uh, |
04:23:11.94 | Unknown | Upstairs. |
04:23:17.19 | Unknown | So, |
04:23:17.27 | Michael Rex | Thank you. |
04:23:17.66 | Unknown | Thank you. |
04:23:17.70 | Michael Rex | in the world. |
04:23:18.17 | Mary Sobieski | We can, we have to take public comment. |
04:23:18.19 | Michael Rex | We have |
04:23:19.94 | Michael Rex | We just keep going, okay. |
04:23:21.70 | Mary Sobieski | Hello, sir. |
04:23:23.06 | Michael Rex | Blah, blah, blah. |
04:23:23.96 | City Clerk | See you, none. Okay. |
04:23:24.82 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. |
04:23:25.29 | Mary Sobieski | We haven't heard the presentation. |
04:23:28.43 | Councilmember Blaustein | We don't have to hear the presentation, do we? If we're going to just take public comment on it, |
04:23:32.41 | Councilmember Blaustein | Well, I can tell you why I pulled it. |
04:23:32.92 | Mary Sobieski | I can tell you. |
04:23:34.35 | Vice Mayor Cox | Thank you. |
04:23:34.69 | Mary Sobieski | Yes, this was pulled by, I don't know by who, but is it pulled by you, Vice Mayor? |
04:23:37.85 | Vice Mayor Cox | Yes. |
04:23:39.03 | Mary Sobieski | Go ahead, Vice Mayor. |
04:23:40.33 | Vice Mayor Cox | I pulled it because the plan still includes the, |
04:23:48.14 | Vice Mayor Cox | tables along the wall. |
04:23:51.01 | Vice Mayor Cox | serving alcohol |
04:23:54.06 | Vice Mayor Cox | outdoors in a very crowded place. |
04:23:56.76 | Vice Mayor Cox | For whatever reason, my video has stopped working, so... |
04:24:01.79 | Vice Mayor Cox | The city attorney told me I have to be visible. I can try and join... |
04:24:06.55 | Vice Mayor Cox | By phone, I don't know why my video has stopped working. |
04:24:09.50 | Mary Sobieski | I can hear you, Vice Mayor. |
04:24:11.04 | Vice Mayor Cox | Okay. Okay. |
04:24:11.90 | Mary Sobieski | I hear you loud and clear. Just go ahead. |
04:24:13.40 | Vice Mayor Cox | Okay, so I would prefer to see us have the tables and chairs in the parklet that has been approved. |
04:24:21.77 | Vice Mayor Cox | by the Planning Commission and remove the tables and chairs that block the pedestrian walkway along the outside of the |
04:24:32.81 | Vice Mayor Cox | fish and chips restaurant because that |
04:24:35.07 | Vice Mayor Cox | area is so crowded |
04:24:37.33 | Vice Mayor Cox | so frequently and I'm concerned about having people coming and get, there will be more coming and going with the service of alcoholic beverages. |
04:24:47.49 | Vice Mayor Cox | than |
04:24:48.55 | Vice Mayor Cox | um, |
04:24:50.04 | Vice Mayor Cox | occurs right now. And so... |
04:24:52.40 | Vice Mayor Cox | I think it's only two tables or something that are currently being used because there is no parklet. |
04:24:58.73 | Vice Mayor Cox | With the parklet, I don't think the two tables that are right up against the |
04:25:04.13 | Vice Mayor Cox | the exterior of the building remain necessary. So it's just because of the long lines that I see queuing, |
04:25:12.62 | Vice Mayor Cox | the very crowded |
04:25:14.29 | Vice Mayor Cox | walkway, the difficulty of traversing when there are people lined up outside, |
04:25:19.48 | Vice Mayor Cox | And the presence of the new parklet, I think, removes the necessity for the table's |
04:25:25.54 | Vice Mayor Cox | Outside. |
04:25:27.21 | Mary Sobieski | Okay, so Councilmember Blaustein wants to be recognized and then Councilmember Hoffman wants to be recognized and then we'll come to you soon. |
04:25:31.99 | Councilmember Blaustein | respectfully, the planning commission has heard an appeal, this item a number of times. I think it's been back and forth maybe four times and continued. And so if we are going to hear it as an agenda item, I'd like to actually hear it as an agenda item and have a discussion about it and not rush through it at 1051 after we've heard about substantial items because I, I, for one, I'm not going to be able to give the full consideration that I probably deserves if it's being pulled. So I, I would put, I would suggest that we not |
04:26:01.84 | Councilmember Blaustein | hear the two consent items that have been pulled and just take public comment on them if we can. I mean, I appreciate hearing why it was pulled vice mayor and I hope that you don't think that I mean. |
04:26:08.71 | Vice Mayor Cox | Yeah. |
04:26:09.70 | Vice Mayor Cox | I completely agree with you. I had to do research and go back through the record when I saw it on the agenda because I was concerned about the logistical ramifications of it. So I had to do my own research. |
04:26:25.36 | Vice Mayor Cox | And so I fully endorse that this needs more than five minutes. |
04:26:29.87 | Mary Sobieski | Okay, so we'll leave this on the business agenda on September 3rd. |
04:26:33.99 | Vice Mayor Cox | Thank you. |
04:26:34.04 | Councilmember Blaustein | Great. |
04:26:35.45 | Mary Sobieski | Okay with you, sir. Thank you very much. Thank you for being here. |
04:26:38.04 | Councilmember Blaustein | Thanks for staying new. |
04:26:39.77 | Sergio | And I believe you still need to take public comment on this. |
04:26:42.37 | Mary Sobieski | on this. |
04:26:42.97 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you for the reminder, Andrew. Senator Bushmaker. |
04:26:44.05 | Sergio | I mean, I'm going to go to you. |
04:26:46.91 | Mary Sobieski | Did you want to make public comments, sir? |
04:26:49.12 | Sandra Bushmaker | That's okay. |
04:26:49.72 | Sandra Bushmaker | Yeah, I do. |
04:26:50.91 | Sandra Bushmaker | I do. |
04:26:51.96 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. |
04:26:53.17 | Sandra Bushmaker | I do. |
04:26:55.08 | Sandra Bushmaker | Thank you. |
04:26:55.10 | Mary Sobieski | I just want to hear you. |
04:26:55.13 | Vice Mayor Cox | I just. |
04:26:56.38 | Vice Mayor Cox | Sandra, he was talking to someone in the audience. |
04:27:00.46 | Mary Sobieski | Yeah. Okay. Is there any public comment here in the audience? And then we'll go to the Zoom. |
04:27:04.90 | Mary Sobieski | Mike, Mr. Rex. |
04:27:08.08 | Michael Rex | I'm not speaking as public. I'm speaking as the representative, the owner, and the applicant, Michael and Isaac Lappert. I want to clarify that the tables and chairs, there's three tables, six chairs. They've been approved by the city years ago. |
04:27:26.81 | Michael Rex | for and includes serving |
04:27:28.90 | Michael Rex | beer and alcohol. |
04:27:30.37 | Michael Rex | And the Planning Commission approved they could stay there because they were taking the place of a handicap ramp. |
04:27:35.93 | Michael Rex | and steps and landing that were taken out. So the sidewalk, |
04:27:39.31 | Michael Rex | Remains the same width it's always been. The parklet is added additive. So I'm surprised that it's coming up at this 11th hour beyond the 11th hour to delay this to September. We we need to be under construction October 1. |
04:27:57.26 | Michael Rex | And so I asked that |
04:28:01.28 | Michael Rex | You approved the project, which is simply asking for an encroachment permit. |
04:28:06.61 | Michael Rex | or agreement for the parklet. We're not adding anything new or changing anything with that existing approval for those six chairs and three tables. Thank you. |
04:28:23.20 | Mary Sobieski | Any other public comment in the room? Ms. McDougal. Mr. Chase. I'm sorry. I should honor the city clerk calling people, Ms. McDougal. I'm sorry, Mr. Chase. The city clerk called on you. And I'll turn it back over to you, Mr. City Manager. Sorry about that. |
04:28:25.46 | Michael Rex | Thank you. |
04:28:39.03 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. |
04:28:39.05 | Jeffrey Chase | This is specifically for the fenced area of South Dunphy Park. |
04:28:43.47 | Jeffrey Chase | It's a really good thing. |
04:28:43.74 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. |
04:28:43.77 | Mary Sobieski | the |
04:28:44.09 | Jeffrey Chase | That was a parklet for the trees. |
04:28:44.11 | Mary Sobieski | Yeah. |
04:28:47.92 | Jeffrey Chase | is what we're talking about. And since you have taken away the opening remarks for the people before the meeting, which are in every other single council chamber and the board of supervisors in Marin County, this is the only place, Sausalito, where there are no opening remarks. |
04:29:05.81 | Vice Mayor Cox | We have public comment later in the agenda, Mr. Chase. I'm speaking about the parklet. |
04:29:08.04 | Mary Sobieski | Chase. |
04:29:10.17 | Mary Sobieski | Sir, you're... |
04:29:10.52 | Vice Mayor Cox | I'm speaking about |
04:29:11.14 | Mary Sobieski | You're not your comments about the park. Yes. His comment is about Dunphy park. Mr. Chase. So it's up to you. |
04:29:11.16 | Vice Mayor Cox | No, you're not. |
04:29:14.32 | Vice Mayor Cox | His comment is about Dunphy Park. |
04:29:18.60 | Mary Sobieski | The open items will be in just about five minutes if you wanted to reserve your open comments, not on the agenda. |
04:29:24.10 | Jeffrey Chase | Okay, well, yeah, I'll do that. I'll do that. Go ahead. |
04:29:25.08 | Mary Sobieski | Yeah. |
04:29:25.28 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. |
04:29:25.62 | Mary Sobieski | that. I'll do that. Thank you very much, sir. Thank you. Ms. McDougal. |
04:29:35.19 | Unknown | Thank you. |
04:29:35.21 | Babette McDougall | Boy, that man's tall. Thank you very much for acknowledging me, Mr. Mayor. |
04:29:39.82 | Babette McDougall | I have no vested interest in this project at all. I just happen to know Sausalito. And I know that Lappertz was actually started by the old man Lappertz. Son Michael came along much later and took it on. |
04:29:54.93 | Babette McDougall | So it still exists. And Lappert has proven to be a wonderful corporate citizen in our community. Mike Lappert himself. |
04:30:01.89 | Babette McDougall | is involved in local politics where he lives locally in Southern Marin as well, in addition to the businesses. |
04:30:07.81 | Babette McDougall | that he has maintained, established by his dad in the very beginning, a very long while ago now. |
04:30:13.36 | Babette McDougall | The people love. |
04:30:15.18 | Babette McDougall | his businesses. I personally, I feel that we can trust him to do the right thing, |
04:30:20.84 | Babette McDougall | to move our |
04:30:22.17 | Babette McDougall | image of the city for it. |
04:30:24.13 | Babette McDougall | And I think that's the bottom line for saying, |
04:30:26.32 | Babette McDougall | Yeah, this is a good idea. If you... |
04:30:29.24 | Babette McDougall | ultimately decide that it deserves further, more scrutiny, further vetting, |
04:30:34.37 | Babette McDougall | I'm for that too, but I just want to make sure you know that |
04:30:38.02 | Babette McDougall | as so many of you are new, |
04:30:40.26 | Babette McDougall | The truth of the matter is the Lappert name is a long standing name in this community. One of the longest. Thank you. |
04:30:49.27 | City Clerk | Then we send her a Bushmaker. |
04:30:51.40 | Sandra Bushmaker | Just real quick, I just had a question about whether there is going to be remuneration paid to the city for the use of the city street. |
04:31:00.58 | Sandra Bushmaker | by the applicant. |
04:31:02.57 | Sandra Bushmaker | And I don't know that that was addressed. I'm afraid I did not. |
04:31:06.64 | Sandra Bushmaker | read the agenda item, the attachments. |
04:31:09.76 | Sandra Bushmaker | But that is a question that I have about |
04:31:13.10 | Sandra Bushmaker | loss of city revenue, |
04:31:14.89 | Sandra Bushmaker | from |
04:31:16.76 | Sandra Bushmaker | those parking spaces that are currently in front of the business. Thank you. |
04:31:22.92 | Adrian Brinton | All right, no further public comment. |
04:31:24.03 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. |
04:31:24.10 | Adrian Brinton | Thank you. |
04:31:24.12 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. |
04:31:25.01 | Mary Sobieski | Okay, we'll close public comment. Is there any discussion or action on this item? So motion to continue it then to September. |
04:31:33.00 | Mary Sobieski | So moved. |
04:31:34.06 | Unknown | So moved. |
04:31:34.67 | Mary Sobieski | there's a motion to continue the item to September 3rd. We do need to call the roll for that. |
04:31:39.78 | City Clerk | Sorry, who seconded? |
04:31:41.87 | Sue Fisher King | We didn't have them? |
04:31:45.74 | Unknown | Thank you. |
04:31:46.43 | City Clerk | Okay. Council member Blossin. |
04:31:50.50 | Unknown | See you. |
04:31:51.83 | City Clerk | Okay, Councilmember Hoffman. |
04:31:55.67 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
04:31:55.79 | City Clerk | Council member coming. |
04:31:56.87 | City Clerk | Yes. Vice-Marie Cox. |
04:31:58.43 | City Clerk | Yes. |
04:31:59.45 | City Clerk | And Mary Sobieski. |
04:32:00.86 | Mary Sobieski | Yes. So item four. |
04:32:06.93 | Mary Sobieski | I'm sorry, four, I'm getting too old. I need my glasses. |
04:32:09.70 | Vice Mayor Cox | It's five. |
04:32:10.90 | Mary Sobieski | It's a public, adopted public official reimbursement policy required by government code. |
04:32:17.48 | Councilmember Blaustein | But let's just take public comment on this and hear it at the next, if we can. |
04:32:23.59 | Mary Sobieski | unless there's a name, who pulled it? |
04:32:25.49 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. |
04:32:25.51 | Vice Mayor Cox | I mean, I pulled it. I wanted to remove. It says that it's retroactive. A policy that we haven't yet adopted should not be retroactive, in my humble opinion. |
04:32:37.29 | Vice Mayor Cox | Again, I would really prefer |
04:32:38.10 | Mary Sobieski | I prefer that we just push it. All right, we'll push it then. |
04:32:38.45 | Vice Mayor Cox | that we just pushed. |
04:32:38.98 | Councilmember Blaustein | All right. |
04:32:40.17 | Councilmember Blaustein | Yeah. |
04:32:40.63 | Mary Sobieski | There seems like a vice mayor, there seems to be a desire to have further discussion on even that issue. And so we. |
04:32:45.69 | Unknown | Okay. |
04:32:46.23 | Mary Sobieski | We'll take public comment on this issue and move to continue it. Any public comment on... |
04:32:50.87 | Mary Sobieski | this item. |
04:32:52.97 | Mary Sobieski | Seeing none in the room, seeing none online. |
04:32:55.97 | Mary Sobieski | We'll close public comment. I'll move to the chat. |
04:32:58.32 | Vice Mayor Cox | I move we continue this to our meeting of September 3, 2024. |
04:33:02.67 | Mary Sobieski | Second, and please call the Royal city clerk. |
04:33:04.59 | City Clerk | Sorry, who made the motion? |
04:33:06.06 | Mary Sobieski | the Vice Mayor and the Council Member Blastham. |
04:33:09.72 | Mary Sobieski | Councilman. |
04:33:10.97 | City Clerk | Councilmember Hoffman? |
04:33:13.86 | City Clerk | Sorry, Council Member Blossy? |
04:33:15.63 | Councilmember Blaustein | Yes. |
04:33:16.47 | City Clerk | Councilman Coleman? Yes. Vice Mayor Cox? |
04:33:18.83 | Councilmember Blaustein | Thank you. |
04:33:18.85 | City Clerk | Yeah. |
04:33:18.94 | Councilmember Blaustein | Yes. |
04:33:19.26 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
04:33:19.43 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
04:33:19.46 | Adrian Brinton | Right. |
04:33:19.51 | City Clerk | Mayor Sobius. |
04:33:19.97 | Adrian Brinton | Thank you. |
04:33:20.05 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
04:33:20.08 | Mary Sobieski | Yes. |
04:33:20.64 | Mary Sobieski | Okay, next item is 4L, authorize the city manager to execute a side letter and license agreement with the South City of Yacht Harbor for the use of 47 parking spaces in Bay Street parking lot for public parking. |
04:33:31.96 | Mary Sobieski | Is there any public comment on this item? |
04:33:34.72 | Mary Sobieski | you |
04:33:34.75 | City Clerk | Yes, there is. |
04:33:35.98 | City Clerk | We do have Sean and Brockett, are you still here? |
04:33:45.28 | Vice Mayor Cox | Before we take public comment, Mayor, may I just say that I pulled this item to facilitate further negotiation of this agreement. |
04:33:52.69 | Mary Sobieski | Okay, thank you for saying that for the record. I should have invited that. |
04:33:56.57 | Sharna Brockett | Okay. Um, you know who I am, Sharna Brockett resident, um, |
04:34:00.10 | Sharna Brockett | I just want to say that I fully support this agreement with Yacht Harbor. |
04:34:03.72 | Sharna Brockett | And I really want to thank the Maddens for coming to the table and creating this private-public partnership with the city. |
04:34:12.13 | Sharna Brockett | It adds 47 spots and it will create a net increase in parking. |
04:34:17.36 | Sharna Brockett | especially when we remove the parking spots from lot one. So it's a really great deal. |
04:34:22.59 | Sharna Brockett | I know that this deal has been a long time in the works, and I think we should improve it and not nickel and dime it or be too nitpicky. And anyway, that's my opinion. Thank you so much. |
04:34:34.60 | Adrian Brinton | Adrian Brinton. |
04:34:40.41 | Adrian Brinton | Hi, Adrian Brenton again. Thank you. Yeah, again, definitely support this deal. I think it's very good for the city. It's good for downtown. It's good for the businesses. And we should approve it tonight. I know it's really late. This is a key piece of mitigating the parking where we're making the changes for the ferry landing. We are losing those spots, and it sounds like now there's potentially agreement even to lose more spots. We can gain spots on Humboldt potentially. This is all on the table and ready to sign. I highly encourage city council to sign it tonight and move forward. Thank you. |
04:35:16.28 | City Clerk | Scott Thornburg. |
04:35:23.31 | Scott Thornburg | Hi, thank you. Similarly to these comments, I would just say I would love for you to approve this tonight. I think it's a really key part of enhancing our downtown. This is a great public-private partnership, as we've just said. This also, I think, I know there was some concern about the term length for the agreement, and I would just say my understanding is that, you know, this is the first time this has ever come up. And I think the community would have come up before now if they were open to it. And now that they are And I think the community would have, it would have come up before now if they were open to it. And now that they are, I think we should be thankful for that and try it and give them an opportunity to see what partnering with the city is like, give all of us an opportunity to try, again, try something new. |
04:36:04.40 | Scott Thornburg | and really lean into that. And if it's not working, we can adjust. And I think we will then also have more data about the performance of revenues from that lot that we can make adjustments going forward. I think we need that length of a term to test and understand that as much as the owners of the South Sea Yacht Harbor do. So Yacht Harbor do. So thank you. |
04:36:27.11 | Unknown | And |
04:36:27.18 | Scott Thornburg | Yeah. |
04:36:27.48 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
04:36:27.58 | City Clerk | And we have a Peter Van Meter online. |
04:36:35.04 | Peter Van Meter | This is absolutely essential to the |
04:36:37.59 | Peter Van Meter | contract that you authorized |
04:36:39.88 | Peter Van Meter | Tonight. |
04:36:41.18 | Peter Van Meter | You have to add parking. |
04:36:43.44 | Peter Van Meter | This has a net increase of approximately five spaces. |
04:36:47.56 | Peter Van Meter | After you do the bike parking on the east side of parking lot number one, |
04:36:52.15 | Peter Van Meter | So you're going to have a net increase in time. |
04:36:54.92 | Peter Van Meter | This agreement with the Sassil Yard Harbor has been under private discussion for actually years. |
04:37:00.83 | Peter Van Meter | has come to fruition finally in a form that you can adopt tonight. |
04:37:04.56 | Peter Van Meter | You must move that ahead. I don't see any reason for not moving that ahead. |
04:37:08.96 | Peter Van Meter | You've adjusted the parking as requested by the Yacht Harbor relative to Humboldt. Put it into the parking lot number one so that problem is solved. |
04:37:17.47 | Peter Van Meter | And so the solution is at hand. |
04:37:19.96 | Peter Van Meter | So. |
04:37:21.35 | Peter Van Meter | Authorize execution of this side letter agreement and move the whole project forward. Thank you. |
04:37:30.88 | City Clerk | And Sandra Bushmaker. |
04:37:36.72 | Sandra Bushmaker | Just real quick, because the term of the agreement is only one year, |
04:37:41.87 | Sandra Bushmaker | And either side can withdraw. |
04:37:43.97 | Sandra Bushmaker | I just want to put it on the record that if the Yacht Harbor decides they don't want to deal with this any longer, |
04:37:50.25 | Sandra Bushmaker | and withdraw or the city decides to withdraw |
04:37:53.66 | Sandra Bushmaker | We're going to lose revenue from 47 spaces. |
04:37:56.82 | Sandra Bushmaker | or I should say 50% of the revenue from 47 spaces. |
04:38:02.12 | Sandra Bushmaker | Uh, |
04:38:02.84 | Sandra Bushmaker | Add that to the loss of the spaces in parking lot one. And I just want to make sure that we understand what we're doing here. Thank you. |
04:38:14.50 | Adrian Brinton | No further public comment. |
04:38:16.09 | Mary Sobieski | Okay, we'll post a comment. |
04:38:18.33 | Mary Sobieski | Is there a motion? |
04:38:20.32 | Vice Mayor Cox | I move we continue the consideration of this item to September 3, 2024. |
04:38:26.40 | Vice Mayor Cox | Or such date as staff. |
04:38:26.63 | Unknown | or |
04:38:29.47 | Vice Mayor Cox | is ready to return to us with the data that we need to fully evaluate our options. |
04:38:36.95 | Mary Sobieski | A made by vice mayor Cox seconded by a customer coming. |
04:38:42.78 | Mary Sobieski | because |
04:38:42.87 | City Clerk | Councilman Blasting? |
04:38:44.98 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
04:38:45.08 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
04:38:45.18 | City Clerk | Yes. Councilmember Hoffman? |
04:38:47.14 | City Clerk | Yes. |
04:38:47.63 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
04:38:47.97 | City Clerk | Councilman Rick-Kelman? Yes. Vice Mayor Cox? |
04:38:50.68 | City Clerk | Yes. Marisa Biasco. |
04:38:52.07 | Mary Sobieski | Yes. Okay. The next item is item four. |
04:38:55.44 | Mary Sobieski | M authorized city manager to execute amended and restated lease agreement with New Village School for the lease of the MLK property at 100 Ebtide. |
04:39:03.20 | Vice Mayor Cox | Mayor, I have to recuse myself from this item. I'm going to turn off my camera. And if someone can text me when I can rejoin the meeting, I will do so. |
04:39:13.46 | Mary Sobieski | When we're done with this item. Yes. Probably comment on this item. |
04:39:15.17 | Vice Mayor Cox | Yes. |
04:39:18.81 | Mary Sobieski | Any public comment? City Clerk. |
04:39:20.04 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. |
04:39:20.06 | City Clerk | Anybody? Bye-bye. |
04:39:20.92 | Mary Sobieski | Mrs. McDougal. |
04:39:30.46 | Babette McDougall | Well, it's late, and sometimes I guess it just plays out this way. Thank you for acknowledging me. |
04:39:35.82 | Babette McDougall | The reason I would like to address you right now is, as I have said in my written comments, but I'd like to make them audio for those that are not able to access the documents. So the truth of the matter is earlier this year, |
04:39:51.65 | Babette McDougall | It was suggested, it was in fact instructed by the council, that our staff team should develop |
04:40:00.28 | Babette McDougall | launched this development of a policy that helps us to understand |
04:40:05.35 | Babette McDougall | how we should be negotiating the city's real estate portfolio generally. So it's a little troubling to know that there's been no movement on that front, or none discernible anyway. I've not seen a draft. |
04:40:17.06 | Babette McDougall | This having been said, I think it's a little dicey to keep moving forward in these various lease negotiations and agreements, knowing that we don't have a framework for bringing this persistent undervaluing of the city's real estate, except in rare instances, to a standard that will make the city proud and more profitable and maybe further out of deficit spending that much sooner. |
04:40:43.93 | Babette McDougall | There are some bottom line considerations for wanting to get this policy in place. And I just urge you to move forward with the policy before we get too carried away with one offs, no more one offs with real estate negotiations. Thank you. |
04:40:59.99 | Mary Sobieski | No further public comment? Any public comment online? |
04:41:03.05 | Mary Sobieski | Oh. |
04:41:03.47 | Mary Sobieski | All right, we'll close public comment. Is there a motion? |
04:41:08.48 | Mary Sobieski | I moved. |
04:41:08.52 | Councilmember Kelman | I'm sorry. |
04:41:08.89 | Councilmember Kelman | I'm motioning to continue to a date uncertain, I think. |
04:41:11.52 | Mary Sobieski | I'll second that. |
04:41:14.71 | City Clerk | Okay, Councilmember, Councilmember Blossy. |
04:41:18.68 | Alice Merrill | Yes. |
04:41:20.78 | City Clerk | Councilmember Hoffman. |
04:41:21.83 | Alice Merrill | Yes. |
04:41:21.88 | City Clerk | Yes. |
04:41:22.27 | City Clerk | Councilman Rick Hellman. |
04:41:23.62 | Alice Merrill | Yes, please. |
04:41:23.89 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
04:41:24.08 | City Clerk | Vice Mayor Cox. She's recused. Oh, that's right. She's recused. And Mayor Silvioski. |
04:41:28.48 | Mary Sobieski | Yes. I just texted her to rejoin. So let's see if she'll rejoin. |
04:41:33.68 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. |
04:41:33.71 | Bjarne Hansen | Exactly. |
04:41:33.78 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. |
04:41:35.94 | Mary Sobieski | closes our business items, but we have to wait for the vice mayor. Okay, she's here. Now we take public comment on items not on the agenda. I know we have at least one here in the audience, but this is your time for members of the public to comment on items that are not on the agenda. So please, Mr. Chase. |
04:41:58.82 | Jeffrey Chase | Hello, City Council. Hello, Chief of Police, Stacey Gregory. |
04:42:03.34 | Jeffrey Chase | So I did mention before that I was going to move my boat to the Sausalito side. I think I did that two weeks ago. It's a 10-hour trip. |
04:42:14.78 | Jeffrey Chase | limit on sailboats there, so |
04:42:18.26 | Jeffrey Chase | There is a boat there now from a person who works for the city. |
04:42:24.17 | Jeffrey Chase | I don't believe in grandfathering in, and that was a con job, as is saying that the former chief of police is not getting two pensions. He is. So that was disingenuous to say that |
04:42:38.76 | Jeffrey Chase | It's not happening. It is happening. |
04:42:41.74 | Jeffrey Chase | And that this |
04:42:44.27 | Jeffrey Chase | Movement. |
04:42:46.09 | Jeffrey Chase | is also involved in the political run, whether there's going to be any opposition |
04:42:52.50 | Jeffrey Chase | to the city council incumbents running |
04:42:56.92 | Jeffrey Chase | in November. |
04:42:58.79 | Jeffrey Chase | that I have to be on the Sausalito side to run for city council, which I did last time. |
04:43:06.05 | Jeffrey Chase | I lost for a good reason, which is I did not. Melissa lost the first time she ran. It's not. |
04:43:13.53 | Jeffrey Chase | that easy to do, there's no books on it. |
04:43:18.08 | Jeffrey Chase | You have to figure it out. |
04:43:20.67 | Jeffrey Chase | So if, |
04:43:22.37 | Jeffrey Chase | And when the Sausalito Police Department and the Mayor, City Council and City Manager decide to take me away or try to from the Sausalito side, not only are they obstructing my civil rights, not only are they perhaps bringing another black swan event to Sausalito, but they're also obstructing an election. |
04:43:47.18 | Jeffrey Chase | So you can see I'm a little worked up today. I mean, this is a lot from my own personal issues, not having to do with politics, but this is really good therapy for me to talk with you folks. Thank you. |
04:44:01.42 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. |
04:44:01.69 | Mary Sobieski | Is there anyone else here in the audience? Anybody in the audience? Is it MacDougall? |
04:44:06.99 | Jeffrey Chase | Thank you. |
04:44:09.97 | Jeffrey Chase | violent for 22 years. |
04:44:12.20 | Jeffrey Chase | Thank you. |
04:44:12.54 | Jeffrey Chase | Thank you. |
04:44:12.69 | Jeffrey Chase | Yes. |
04:44:12.88 | Mary Sobieski | Sir, Mr. Chen. |
04:44:13.65 | Jeffrey Chase | Thank you. |
04:44:14.31 | Jeffrey Chase | Yes. Shalom. All right. I'm leaving now, but it's up to you. One moment. Solve. |
04:44:21.13 | Babette McDougall | Please. |
04:44:21.67 | Babette McDougall | Thank you. |
04:44:22.21 | Babette McDougall | A lot of competition. Thank you. |
04:44:23.96 | Babette McDougall | So thank you for acknowledging me. So I want to take this moment. First of all, I'd like to publicly apologize for mispronouncing. |
04:44:31.05 | Babette McDougall | Stephen Woodside's name at the last council meeting. |
04:44:34.81 | Babette McDougall | By the time I realized that my mouth had not engaged my brain and I incorrectly pronounced his name, I had already been needed again. So, |
04:44:46.42 | Babette McDougall | So I want to make sure it's clear that I apologize for that. The other thing that I would like to encourage you to strongly consider |
04:44:53.60 | Babette McDougall | is officially inviting the citizens back to the council chambers. |
04:44:59.05 | Babette McDougall | The hue and cry I heard over the July holiday, July 4 holiday. |
04:45:03.22 | Babette McDougall | was that, yes, we'd like to have a town hall meeting, and there's only one place to have it, in the People's Hall. That's the council chambers. We want back. So this idea of reestablishing open debate |
04:45:17.83 | Babette McDougall | in the democratic process is actually a welcome opportunity. It's wonderful that so many people went back in, and it's wonderful that they'd like to have their town hall meetings here. |
04:45:27.75 | Babette McDougall | So I'd like to urge you to seriously consider the wisdom that |
04:45:31.72 | Babette McDougall | of just as you reinstated the Pledge of Allegiance, |
04:45:35.19 | Babette McDougall | which is a wonderful start. |
04:45:37.30 | Babette McDougall | It's only by us putting our shoulder to the wheel that we ultimately get that liberty and justice for all, that that ever in search of a more perfect union is realized. |
04:45:48.71 | Babette McDougall | And we aren't going to give up because we don't scare that easily. So I say, let's just get in. |
04:45:54.29 | Babette McDougall | evolved and let it happen. I think you're going to be delighted. I think you must see you have an informed citizenry. |
04:46:02.23 | Babette McDougall | And I think you'll be pleased with the outcome, so I urge you to consider it. Thank you. |
04:46:07.85 | City Clerk | Sandra Bushmaker, she's online. |
04:46:12.33 | Sandra Bushmaker | Karen Hollweg, hi at the last meeting, it was announced and i'm forgetting by whom that the mayor appointed a parking committee. |
04:46:20.37 | Sandra Bushmaker | And the parking mayor couldn't remember who he appointed to the committee. So he was going to send a one way communication to the council. |
04:46:28.43 | Sandra Bushmaker | And I have seen nothing about who was appointed to the committee. |
04:46:34.10 | Sandra Bushmaker | And what the scope of this committee is. And I would very as a member of the public who's very active, as you know, with with your business. I would like to know, number one, who's on the committee and what the scope of the committee's activity is. Thank you. |
04:46:51.99 | Mary Sobieski | No further public comments. OK, well, Ms. Merrill, please. |
04:46:59.90 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. |
04:47:01.21 | Alice Merrill | That was good, the parking. The parking has got to be figured out for the people who |
04:47:07.74 | Alice Merrill | Work here. |
04:47:09.22 | Alice Merrill | so that the people who |
04:47:11.43 | Alice Merrill | They aren't parking in the spots where the people who live here want to use |
04:47:15.75 | Alice Merrill | the services. |
04:47:17.49 | Alice Merrill | Because the people who park here are now parking in the places where the people who live here want to go. |
04:47:23.56 | Alice Merrill | go |
04:47:24.64 | Alice Merrill | for instance, drivers. |
04:47:27.06 | Alice Merrill | The people who work at Drivers are parking all around the neighborhood and moving their car every two hours to not get a ticket. |
04:47:35.85 | Alice Merrill | And then the people who live here who want to come to Drivers to |
04:47:40.66 | Alice Merrill | do their shopping, don't have anywhere to park. |
04:47:43.36 | Alice Merrill | so easily. And also, I have, at Ming, at Michelle, at Ming, Ming, at Michelle's, asked me every time I see her, are you helping me with my parking problems? Because she really thinks that. And |
04:47:58.12 | Alice Merrill | And Stacy said, well, they can just buy a thing for $6 a day. They can have, you know, $6 a day and you can park for free. |
04:48:06.97 | Alice Merrill | When you are making $18 an hour, $6 a day is kind of a lot of money for your whole year. You got to figure something out, I think, for the people who work here. Thank you. |
04:48:22.39 | Adrian Brinton | All right, no further problems. |
04:48:24.03 | Mary Sobieski | Okay, we'll close public comment then and go to committee reports. I guess I was going to start, actually, with the parking one, since that was missing from the city manager sending the one-way communication. But the people on the, which I never gave him, which was missing piece, he couldn't send it if I didn't give it to him. So the people on the parking committee are N.S. Bogney from Saxolito, Mark Flattery, Keith Weiselman, Sam Rubin,vi eastman hank becker amy spenberg and adrian brennerton so i conceived of this not as a committee that was balanced among whose only thing was about being as big as possible it was about who was willing to do the work of uh representing not just themselves that's the charge but but to actually people who would have connections in town in the business community, who would be willing to do the work of going out and talking to their neighbors and figuring out what their concerns are and are emotionally and intellectually capable of putting themselves in their neighbor's shoes to try to come together and not simply advocate for themselves at the table, but to look at the Dixon study, that's the charge, and see if there's any low-hanging fruit there that we could implement quickly to make parking better. Things like what Alice Merrill just mentioned, the employee parking situation for driver's market is acute and a real problem. We could probably solve their problem, but maybe create some for so uh as we talked about earlier uh city council is good for many things but um because of the brown act and otherwise being able to hash out all the nuances uh isn't our strong suit whereas an independent group like this that actually it has a stake in the problem uh might be able to come up with some recommendations. So it's a working group and you know, there's nothing magical per se about the number, but those are the people and that's their charge. I'm not part of the committee and I don't go to their meetings. I am there. I designate myself the liaison. So I get there at their service if they need to get information from the city. |
04:48:24.13 | Adrian Brinton | Ooh. |
04:48:31.59 | Unknown | That was me. |
04:50:26.94 | Mary Sobieski | So that's the parking report. Vice mayor, I know you wanted, maybe you could report out on our insurance committee, subcommittee. |
04:50:35.55 | Amy Svenberg | Um, |
04:50:40.66 | Mary Sobieski | You don't have to, but I remember we had a couple of things from our last meeting. |
04:50:46.33 | Vice Mayor Cox | I don't have my notes in front of me, Mayor. It's 1115 at night and I am. |
04:50:50.13 | Mary Sobieski | And I don't either as Councilmember Hoffman points out the most important thing to note is we have insurance and actually in earnestness the team. We do these weekly insurance meetings at noon on Friday, because they are morphing into a risk management committee as well. So we have. |
04:51:08.81 | Vice Mayor Cox | So that is one thing, Mayor, is that |
04:51:12.05 | Vice Mayor Cox | The city has |
04:51:15.22 | Vice Mayor Cox | decided to hire |
04:51:17.37 | Vice Mayor Cox | a |
04:51:20.00 | Vice Mayor Cox | a vendor, |
04:51:20.96 | Vice Mayor Cox | risk manager recommended by PRISM |
04:51:24.19 | Vice Mayor Cox | while we continue our search for a long-term employee. I had thought that was gonna be part of the city manager's report. I didn't, I'm not sure that I was intended to make that |
04:51:35.59 | Vice Mayor Cox | report. But those are the types of things that we discuss at our weekly meetings on Fridays. |
04:51:40.30 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you, Vice Mayor. Any other committee reports about Councilmember Blasstein? |
04:51:44.37 | Councilmember Blaustein | Yeah, I attended the Transportation Authority of Marin's meeting last week, and notably, they are working on the countywide transportation plan, which is the first time that a countywide transportation plan has been considered. And there was a workshop and robust discussion. So that is evolving and is very exciting. Also, myself and the mayor and Councilmember Huffman attended not a committee, but a celebration of the sea lion at the Trident on Thursday. So just another big shout out to the Sausalito Foundation and all the members of the staff who were involved in making that possible. |
04:52:19.20 | Councilmember Blaustein | Thank you. |
04:52:19.23 | Councilmember Kelman | I'll just add a... I remember coming. I attended the Marine Clean Energy Board meeting last Thursday. We talked about community development grants, access for under-resourced communities to EV chargers and solar rebates. And then we also, just a matter of business, looked at buying the building that it's located in. Also honored to host the North Bay Division of Cal Cities. I am a vice president. I serve with Council Member Hoffman. And the mayor came and gave up a new remarks Thank you. Also honored to host the North Bay Division of Cal Cities. I am a vice president. I serve with Council Member Hoffman. And the mayor came and gave up any remarks, and the city manager came. And that was really interesting. We heard about some of the climate bond and what's entitled underneath the climate bond. And then we talked a little bit about some upcoming propositions. And then also just flag, not related to council work, but I actually love this topic of insurance and catastrophic risk. So with my nonprofit, we're actually hosting something called the Economic Risk of Climate Change for California Communities here in Sausalito, October 15th at the Spinnaker, in coordination with the Environmental Defense Fund, the Ocean Science Trust, the Stanford Door School, and UC Santa Cruz, and the Department of Insurance. So if you're interested and want to be a community rep, let me know. We're going to try to solve some of your problems. |
04:52:19.74 | Councilmember Blaustein | Oh, yeah. |
04:52:19.85 | Mary Sobieski | Remember coming. |
04:53:34.31 | Mary Sobieski | Any other community reports? |
04:53:36.43 | Vice Mayor Cox | None. Okay. We'll close committee. |
04:53:37.77 | Vice Mayor Cox | Thank you. |
04:53:37.82 | Mary Sobieski | It's a good thing. |
04:53:38.04 | Vice Mayor Cox | manager report. |
04:53:38.73 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. |
04:53:39.35 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. |
04:53:39.39 | Vice Mayor Cox | Right. |
04:53:39.44 | Mary Sobieski | out. |
04:53:39.57 | Vice Mayor Cox | Thank you, Mayor, members of the council, members of the public who are still with us, but this will all be part of the public record. The city council went through their strategic planning session in 2023 and has six priorities, but foundational priorities for the city still include finance. You set up a finance committee this last meeting. Still include insurance. Vice Mayor Cox, you're right. There's an insurance report attached. We didn't just get it. We have work to do. And then infrastructure. So the risk management report is in your packet, but I want to talk about infrastructure a little bit. You approved an item tonight, $184,000 of other people's money to help our road program. Our roads are rated at about 58, which is deemed poor. So the idea of infrastructure still is ingrained in my brain. Our roads, our sidewalks, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, our roads, infrastructure still is ingrained in my brain. Our roads, our sidewalks, our buildings. So we continue to work on infrastructure. And to help us get to a better place, what I've done is I've enlisted the aid of some thinkers in our community, some local thinkers, to help Kevin McGowan and I pull together some ideas about how to improve our infrastructures, our roads and sidewalks and stairs in particular. So one of the things that we've done is we've recruited this group of thinkers led by a gentleman named Sam Chase, who's a local engineer. We've added Jose Sanchez, who's a local engineer. We've added Ray Withey, who is important and interested in city finances, and Ron Albert. And that's the kitchen cabinet that I've started with to help me, help Kevin, help us noodle around ideas about how to improve our infrastructure. I understood that, you know, it wasn't a city council priority, but I think, as I said, it's a foundational priority along with finance and infrastructure. So that concludes my report, Mayor and Council. Thank you. |
04:55:28.11 | Mary Sobieski | City Manager. Future agenda items for anyone? |
04:55:31.34 | Mary Sobieski | Council member of the Last thing. |
04:55:32.20 | Vice Mayor Cox | Thank you. |
04:55:32.21 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. |
04:55:32.85 | Councilmember Blaustein | Yeah, I noticed that Mill Valley is hosting a town hall on the BAFA bond. And I think we need to have a conversation since that was approved for the ballot on the very substantial potentially. Yeah, anyway, just I think we should have a conversation about the bond or or an open town hall. But I'd like to just bring that forward as something we discussed. |
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04:55:50.96 | Councilmember Blaustein | Okay. |
04:55:51.25 | Councilmember Kelman | It's going to be a presentation. |
04:55:51.97 | Councilmember Blaustein | Thank you. |
04:55:52.29 | Councilmember Kelman | a presentation. |
04:55:52.88 | Councilmember Blaustein | Thank you. |
04:55:53.09 | Councilmember Blaustein | At the very least a presentation and yeah. |
04:55:55.79 | Mary Sobieski | Can you note that city clerk, please? That's one of the calendars. |
04:55:58.91 | Councilmember Kelman | Yeah, thank you. So it was a big night for us tonight. And I will just express just we spent a lot of time focused on the downtown. It feels like the agendas have been very focused in that area almost exclusively. And I would like to return to the strategic elements that we discussed as alluded to by the city manager. So specifically, I'd like to see that hillside ordinance. I want to know what's going on with the geologic hazard report. I want to, roads should be coming back to us until we improve that rating. I hope now that we can continue to look at other infrastructure. And I welcome you to, at any given moment, come down Montemar and enjoy almost bottoming out, you know, as you come up that road or come down Woodward. And these are emergency escape routes that we need. So roads and resilience are two things I'm just gonna keep hammering on. We had a big milestone tonight. Congratulations to everybody. And now I hope that we can come back to a lot of the strategic concerns and look forward to continuing the hard work. |
04:56:58.85 | Mary Sobieski | Okay, I guess I'll add just because it just because I you prompted it is sometime in the future, not the next being but eventually when we should have EDAC back and give them a new direction since we now will have a downtown business improvement district EDAC focus could be directed towards the partnership and other areas of town explicitly by the Council or not it's up to us, but we can get in that direction. |
04:57:20.53 | Councilmember Kelman | Just so I have to be clear, infrastructure, resilience, and roads. That's what I want to hear about. |
04:57:26.22 | Mary Sobieski | Okay, thanks. Vice Mayor? |
04:57:28.67 | Vice Mayor Cox | Yes, I wanted to... |
04:57:33.87 | Vice Mayor Cox | remind us that we had spoken earlier this year about inviting the Sausalito Marin City School District to come make a presentation to us. So I was hoping we could do that perhaps at our first meeting in September. |
04:57:51.53 | Mary Sobieski | He's not that city clerk, Councilmember Hoffman. |
04:57:53.66 | Councilmember Hoffman | I would like to just reiterate Councilmember Kelman's points about how we spend our council time. I think it's – I do understand and know that I believe the Marin City School District is looking for a – they're trying to put something on the ballot for parcel tax. but I would like for us to focus on city council, our limited time, our precious time on our priorities and our city council time. |
04:58:25.79 | Councilmember Hoffman | And this is not specific to, because I think we all got an email about this issue, but I think we have to be specific in our filter about what we put on our agenda and how we task our staff. Because every time we put something on the agenda, the staff has to prepare it and they have to prepare a staff report. And so that takes time. And so maybe, I don't know if we need to talk about priorities again, I mean, we did it in, |
04:58:54.88 | Councilmember Hoffman | January, we have some huge housing element issues that we have to get done. And time is running out and we can't continue to waste time |
04:59:05.35 | Councilmember Hoffman | Not waste time, but we can't continue to devote time that's not... |
04:59:08.94 | Councilmember Hoffman | City Council priority issues. So that that's I would hope that as part of our future agenda item suggestions that Council members are disciplined and look at our priorities before they suggest items be added to our future priority list. So |
04:59:30.44 | Mary Sobieski | Nice, Mary. You still have your hand up. |
04:59:32.28 | Vice Mayor Cox | Oh, it just didn't lower. Sorry about that. |
04:59:35.23 | Vice Mayor Cox | Yeah. |
04:59:35.40 | Councilmember Kelman | Yeah. |
04:59:35.47 | Mary Sobieski | customer. |
04:59:35.50 | Councilmember Kelman | So, |
04:59:35.55 | Vice Mayor Cox | sort of. |
04:59:35.75 | Councilmember Kelman | Thank you, Mayor. I also just want to repeat a request that I've made to the city manager, that we've all actually made to the city manager, that when we hit the budget again, and I know the treasurer's report was pulled from tonight, I think we would very much like to see a per department accounting and budgeting so we can understand what our staff needs, if someone feels under-resourced, where they are with metrics. So some statements were made tonight about maintenance or about parks and rec. I think we need to hear directly from department heads, and we should give them the opportunity to tell. where they are with metrics. So some statements were made tonight about maintenance or about Parks and Rec. I think we need to hear directly from department heads and we should give them the opportunity to tell us all about the good work that they are doing. I would love to hear from them. And then the other thing I said at the top of the meeting, I would really like for us to just go through the motions of approving the agenda together so that we're unified in moving forward with the conversation for the evening. We have all had it as mayors. I don't know what happened to it, but if we could bring it back, I think it's a good practice. |
04:59:35.77 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. |
05:00:27.17 | Mary Sobieski | Okay, we'll close future agenda topics. There's public comment on all those items, the committee reports, city manager reports, future agenda items. Public comment, Ms. McDougall. |
05:00:41.28 | Babette McDougall | I should just get my own chair and set it up, you know. All right. First of all, I just want to say that I am fully in support of council members Kelman and Hoffman with their razor focus. |
05:00:57.63 | Babette McDougall | laser focused. |
05:00:59.44 | Babette McDougall | Razor sharp focus. |
05:01:01.26 | Babette McDougall | on priorities as were outlined during the strategic planning session. |
05:01:06.52 | Babette McDougall | that there are priorities, there's been |
05:01:08.77 | Babette McDougall | Otherwise, we're calling it lip service. And it can't be lip service. And I just want to harken back. |
05:01:15.49 | Babette McDougall | to the close of the former budget year, |
05:01:18.27 | Babette McDougall | Kelman's |
05:01:19.81 | Babette McDougall | Battle cry was, we're going to kick it off the next meeting. It's all about our priorities. And that just stuck with me. So I just want to say, bravo, that you keep bringing us back to the focal point. |
05:01:33.47 | Babette McDougall | of what's going to make the city sustainable over the long term. |
05:01:38.27 | Babette McDougall | Thank you. |
05:01:39.90 | Mary Sobieski | Thank you. Anyone online, city clerk? No public comment. Okay, we'll close public comment. And that brings us to the end of the... |
05:01:48.34 | Mary Sobieski | meeting our next scheduled meeting will be september the 3rd uh but just a comment it's been a push for the first half of the year congratulations to my colleagues on making it this far and getting a lot done but also i really want to acknowledge the city staff which has gone through an insurance crisis and pushed a bunch of things through uh the dais here and uh and managed the operations of the city so well so, I know there are only a few of you here, but on behalf of all of us on the city council, to the entire city staff, thank you very much for all your hard work and for doing all the ups and downs. Sausalito is better for it. And we really appreciate you. Enjoy the August break with us not around here and see you in September and have a great summer recess. Good night. |
05:02:32.55 | Fred Moore | Well, |