City Council Feb 10, 2024

Feb 10

City Council Meeting Summary

Time	Item	Item Summary	Motion Summary	Comment Summary
00:00:03	None: None	The meeting recording has started.	No Motion	0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral

00:00:06	1: CALL TO ORDER IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT CITY HALL, 420 LITHO STREET - 8:00 AM	The meeting was called to order by Mayor Sobieski (00:00:06). The city clerk, Blaustein, called the roll, confirming the presence of Councilmembers Blossene, Helman, Hoffman, Vice Mayor Cox and Mayor Sobieski (00:00:12-00:00:25). Councilmember Hoffman mentioned that her Facebook account had been hacked and alerted councilmembers about it (00:00:33). Mayor Sobieski led the Pledge of Allegiance (00:00:48). The Mayor then introduced the City Manager Sabata, who would set the stage for the meeting. Public comment would follow, after which the meeting would proceed (00:01:10).	No Motion	0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral

00:01:22	2: STRATEGIC PLANNING WORKSHOP TO DISCUSS CITY GOALS, SAUSALITO 2020- 2026 STRATEGIC PLAN, STRENGTHS/WEAKNESSES/OPPORTUNITIES/THREATS REVIEW, CITY FINANCES, CITY COUNCIL PRIORITIES	City Manager Chris Zapata introduces the strategic planning workshop, emphasizing the need for agility in an ever-changing environment. He references the 2020 Saucyla Strategic Plan and subsequent strategy sessions in 2021-22 focused on finances, infrastructure, and personnel. He notes that last year's discussion was staff-led and focused on revenue. This year's session aims for greater City Council participation, particularly given financial issues and the need to reconvene strategies post-COVID. Zapata introduces Amy Haworth from the Municipal Resources Group as the facilitator, highlighting her experience with other city councils and her background as an elected official. Haworth will lead the meeting after public comments and initial council discussions (00:01:46). Mayor Ian Sobieski opens the floor for public comments, setting a two-minute limit per person (00:04:05).	No Motion	1 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 1 Neutral
00:04:56 Babette McDougall was Neutral: Ms. McDougall is the first public commenter, though her comments are not transcribed in this segment.
00:05:06	2.A: Public Comment	This agenda item was for public comment. Several members of the public spoke on a variety of issues. Babette McDougall expressed support for having public comment at the beginning of the agenda and requested reinstating full citizen involvement in council chambers (00:05:15). Sharna Brockett applauded the council's approval of the ferry landing plan and encouraged the council to focus on big-ticket budget items like pensions and infrastructure and not spend so much time on items that make a small contribution to the budget (00:06:31). Another speaker was excited about the projects the council could work on, such as the Marine Ship and improving downtown (00:08:38). Vicki Nichols expressed confusion about the ordinance removing city properties from Planning Commission review and stressed the importance of historic preservation (00:10:34). Scott Thornburg thanked the council for their dedication and noted EDAC new member appointments and downtown business development (00:12:08). Adrian Brinton encouraged the council to expand on employee parking as a future agenda item and expressed the importance of optimizing parking to support businesses and city finances (00:14:14).	No Motion	6 Total: 2 In Favor 1 Against 3 Neutral
00:05:07 Babette McDougall was In Favor: Expressed support for public comment at the start of the agenda and requested reinstating full citizen involvement in council chambers. 00:06:31 Sharna Brockett was Neutral: Applauded the council's approval of the ferry landing plan but encouraged focusing on significant budget items and not spending too much time on minor issues. 00:08:38 Unknown was In Favor: Expressed excitement about potential projects like the Marine Ship and downtown improvements and encouraged an optimistic approach. 00:10:34 Vicki Nichols was Against: Expressed confusion about the ordinance removing city properties from Planning Commission review and stressed the importance of historic preservation. 00:12:08 Scott Thornburg was Neutral: Thanked the council for their dedication, noted EDAC new member appointments, and emphasized downtown business development. 00:14:14 Adrian Brinton was Neutral: Encouraged the council to expand on employee parking as a future agenda item and stressed the importance of optimizing parking to support businesses and city finances.
00:16:00	2.B): Strategic Planning Workshop To Discuss City Goals, Sausalito 2020- 2026 Strategic Plan, Strengths/Weaknesses/Opportunities/Threats Review, City Finances, City Council Priorities	Amy Haworth introduces herself as a former city councilmember and school board member from Manhattan Beach, CA. She explains that she prepared for the workshop by speaking with the city manager and each council member (00:17:23). Haworth says the purpose of the workshop is for councilmembers to discuss their priorities and for staff to understand where to focus their resources (00:18:47). She outlines a process to identify what went well last year, discuss strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, and threats (SWOT), and align these with the budget (00:21:26). The aim is to create a work plan for staff to focus on, which is less high-level than a strategic plan but still incorporates elements of the existing strategic plan (00:22:36). Councilmember Bonnicksen suggests a two-minute perspective sharing from each council member, which Haworth facilitates by establishing ground rules, including allowing the facilitator to guide discussions and encouraging curiosity over judgment (00:23:06). Each councilmember then shares their motivation for serving on the council and their perspectives on the city's challenges and opportunities, which included resident diversity, climate resilience, infrastructure needs, economic insecurity, and financial stability (00:25:43). After, they identify the wins the city had in the last year, which included settling labor agreements, passing a housing element, a clean audit, hiring a new city attorney and resilience manager, Measure L funding, Sausalito Pride celebration, and a million dollar contribution to our pension debt (00:38:56). Haworth facilitates a SWAT analysis to focus the work of the council going forward, then reviews the 2020-2026 strategic plan, and introduces future agenda items (00:36:16). Mayor Sobieski asks about the timing of future public comments, and is told to expect them around 12:10pm (00:37:40). She emphasized the importance of aligning decisions with the adopted budget to drive progress. She noted they will be having a public comment period around 12:10pm to provide opportunity for comment.	No Motion	0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral

03:35:35	2.C: Public Comment	This agenda item opened the floor for public comments, with each speaker having a two-minute time limit. Community members addressed the council on various issues, including communication gaps with the public, technology needs, public water access, strategic plan priorities, and general appreciation for the council's work. The council acknowledged the comments, clarifying that it was not a Q&A session but offered to engage with speakers individually after the meeting.	No Motion	5 Total: 1 In Favor 0 Against 4 Neutral
03:36:04 Unknown was Neutral: This speaker discussed communication gaps between the city and the public, especially those without computers or smartphones. They also raised concerns about parking limitations affecting residents and visitors. 03:38:57 Linda Fodge was Neutral: Linda Fodge expressed respect for the council and suggested leveraging community resources to address issues like the lack of internet downtown and improving public water access. She proposed engaging technology experts and wealthy community members to volunteer and contribute resources. 03:40:21 Vicki Nichols was Neutral: Vicki Nichols thanked the council for the session and the transparency it provided. She emphasized the need for clarity on the ownership of assets like the Sea Lion and the anchor by Spinnaker. She urged the council to prioritize the strategic plan's vision of cultivating natural beauty, history, arts, and waterfront culture, and to protect historic resources. 03:41:55 Sharna Brockett was In Favor: Sharna Brockett thanked the council and staff for their work and highlighted the importance of the 90/10 rule discussion. She apologized if her earlier statements about getting things done seemed disrespectful and offered the support of South Sausalito Beautiful in aligning efforts and assisting with community projects. 03:43:29 Sybil Boutillier was Neutral: Sybil Boutillier thanked everyone for their time and found the session illuminating. She expressed surprise that the corporation yard project was not on the priority list, given the potential for state and Marine Community Foundation funding. She emphasized the importance of keeping housing a priority and urged the council to take full advantage of community support.
03:46:39	3: ADJOURNMENT - 12:30 PM	Ian Sobieski thanks Amy, mentions the local Super Bowl event put on by Parks and Rec with the cooperation of local restaurants, and wishes everyone a good weekend and Lunar New Year. (03:46:39)	No Motion	0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral

City Council Meeting Transcript

Adrian Brinton

City Council Feb 20, 2024

Time	Speaker	Text
00:00:03.66	Unknown	Recording in progress.
00:00:06.59	Ian Sobieski	All right. We'll call this special meeting of the South Salado City Council to order. City Kirk, could you kindly call the roll?
00:00:12.54	Blaustein	Councilmember Blaustein.
00:00:15.08	Jill Hoffman	Thank you.
00:00:16.06	Blaustein	Yeah.
00:00:17.07	Blaustein	Okay, Council Member Blossene?
00:00:18.59	Jill Hoffman	Here.
00:00:19.40	Blaustein	Councilmember Helman.
00:00:22.86	Blaustein	Here.
00:00:23.35	Blaustein	Councilmember Hoffman.
00:00:24.79	Blaustein	Thank you.
00:00:24.80	Jill Teasdale	I'm here.
00:00:25.23	Blaustein	Thank you.
00:00:25.78	Blaustein	Vice Mayor Cox. Here. And Mayor Sobieski.
00:00:30.46	Ian Sobieski	here. Councilmember Hoffman, you said you wish to make sure
00:00:33.36	Jill Teasdale	Yes, this is a public service announcement. My apparently my Facebook account has been hacked. So if anybody here or outside gets a friend request, it's not for me. No, we're we are friends, but don't accept any new requests. Thank you. That's why I'm late. Sorry.
00:00:43.45	Scott Thornburg	Thank you.
00:00:48.06	Ian Sobieski	Good morning everyone to this special meeting. I will begin with the Pledge of Allegiance and then followed by city manager comments and then we'll begin with the presentation.
00:00:57.32	Unknown	I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic, which it
00:01:03.02	Ian Sobieski	Thank you.
00:01:03.68	Unknown	Thank you.
00:01:03.97	Ian Sobieski	One nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
00:01:10.82	Ian Sobieski	To set the stage, I'll introduce, to set the stage, I'll introduce the city manager who, and then we will take public comment after the city manager sets the stage and then we will move on with the day. City Manager Sabata.
00:01:22.89	Chris Zapata	Thank you, Mayor. Can everybody hear me?
00:01:26.19	Chris Zapata	My mic is on. Thank you. I'd like to begin by saying that we live in an ever-changing world, and there's always things that we have to.
00:01:37.97	Chris Zapata	I'm...
00:01:39.83	Chris Zapata	Is it clear now? I'm talking as loud as I can.
00:01:42.28	Chris Zapata	Better?
00:01:46.28	Chris Zapata	Yeah.
00:01:46.75	Chris Zapata	So I'll speak louder, Mayor. I was saying we live in an ever-changing environment, and as such, we have to be an agile organization to adapt to those changes, and cities before us and cities after us will do what we call strategy talk, strategy sessions. The Saucyla City Council in 2020 adopted a document called the Saucyla Strategic Plan, which included mission, values, goals, vision, and strategies. It wasn't intended to be a static document. It was intended to be a document that was fluid. And so in that fluid environment, what happened in 21-22, we had another strategy session in which there was much discussion about going back to the basics, and that would be finances, infrastructure, as well as our personnel. Last year, we had another strategic planning discussion about revenue, and that was really quite the staff exercise. Wasn't a whole lot of room for the council to participate as much as they would like to. So this year, I believe it's time for the city council to participate as normal. But given our financial issues and our need to reconvene our strategies after COVID, the last two years were extremely necessary. So thank you for indulging me and the staff in letting us lead most of the conversations those days. today is your day and and it's going to be led by our facilitator, Amy Haworth, who is from the Municipal Resources Group. She is a facilitator that has done work for city councils in Napa and Larkspur and other places, and part of her qualifications include being an elected official for a while. One time mayor of the city of Manhattan Beach, took a hiatus, now is on the city council of Manhattan Beach, but she is also a facilitator that we have looked forward to her guidance, and she's going to talk about how the day is going to unfold, and she's actually going to be the one to conduct the meeting once the public comment sections are done and some of the council conversations go will be under her leadership and she'll talk about those ground rules so samara i believe you wanted to give the public a chance to comment at this point thank you
00:04:05.22	Ian Sobieski	Thank you very much, city manager. If you're going to make a public comment, could you raise your hand? We just want to sort out the timing. So for public comments. So let's do two minutes, a person, please, for public comment. And the floor is open. Do they do the slips, city clerk? We'll start with Bavette.
00:04:20.75	Blaustein	We'll start with Babette McDougall. She gave me a slip.
00:04:23.40	Blaustein	So for anybody that wants to provide public comment, we'll make the process easier. There's speaker slips over at the table by the television. You can fill it out and then give it back to us. Thank you. And our timer, it's not working, but I have one right here. So we'll put the camera on this little timer right here. Whenever you're ready, Ms. McDougal.
00:04:49.32	Ian Sobieski	Is the microphone on?
00:04:50.47	Ian Sobieski	One moment, one moment, Ms. McDougal. We want to make sure your microphone is on.
00:04:56.25	Babette McDougall	How does that sound?
00:04:57.15	Ian Sobieski	Much better. Good morning.
00:04:59.58	Ian Sobieski	Thank you.
00:04:59.71	Ian Sobieski	Thank you.
00:04:59.81	Ian Sobieski	Good morning. So the floor is yours, please. Can you restore two minutes to the clock, please, for Ms. McDougal?
00:04:59.85	Babette McDougall	Yeah.
00:04:59.92	Babette McDougall	Good morning.
00:05:06.82	Ian Sobieski	Thank you.
00:05:07.85	Ian Sobieski	So that's...
00:05:07.90	Babette McDougall	So Babette McDougall, Gerard Avenue, Sausalito, I'm here for two reasons this morning. First of all, I'd like to applaud...
00:05:08.25	Unknown	Yeah.
00:05:15.19	Babette McDougall	this council for having the wisdom to put public comment at the start of the agenda and i came just for that
00:05:22.23	Babette McDougall	and number two,
00:05:23.54	Babette McDougall	Within the context of today's
00:05:27.66	Babette McDougall	agenda.
00:05:29.01	Babette McDougall	I'd like to ask you to consider strongly whether you consider this as an opportunity, because I certainly do, to reinstate full citizen involvement in this council chamber alone. Start here. This is not the representative government that the citizens of Sausalito had in mind.
00:05:46.81	Babette McDougall	when they first framed the concept of a five-member body. However, if you would allow citizen engagement, a real debate, a real democracy, where we jointly debate and we can all put the timer on ourselves like we did,
00:06:01.36	Babette McDougall	back in the day prior to COVID, where we debate openly
00:06:05.69	Babette McDougall	exchange ideas, and reach consensus, which brings us to a resolution.
00:06:11.74	Babette McDougall	I think you're going to find you'll be pleasantly surprised. It's really not a threat. It's actually an opportunity. Thank you.
00:06:18.98	Babette McDougall	And by the way, I grew up in Manhattan Beach.
00:06:31.46	Sharna Brockett	Thank you so much. I first want to applaud you for your vote for the approval of the ferry landing plan. I mean, after seven years, I'm just super excited. And I know there's a ton of people in this town who are excited. So thank you for making a decision. We have a path forward.
00:06:46.69	Sharna Brockett	I'm super excited about that.
00:06:48.44	Sharna Brockett	Um, also, I just want to say like, I've, to be honest, I've just started paying attention and looking under the hood a little and, and thank you so much for all the hard work you do. I mean, I know these, these, you spend countless hours up here and meeting and, um, I'm so appreciative. Um, I do want to say that it seems like we spend a really, a lot of time from what I'm telling from what I'm seeing and I'm new.
00:07:11.39	Sharna Brockett	on things that actually, you know, we're worried about our budget. We're worried about money, but...
00:07:16.54	Sharna Brockett	You know, we spent seven years on that Ferry Landside plan and we had free money to do it.
00:07:21.85	Sharna Brockett	You know, and so when we spend a ton of time, I know it's your time, it's our time, it's staff time.
00:07:26.78	Sharna Brockett	So that's just a lot of time and wasted money.
00:07:29.95	Sharna Brockett	you know, for something that was pretty much like a parking lot redesign. It was a very small project for most towns.
00:07:36.74	Sharna Brockett	So I just want to point that out. That's just, for me, it seems kind of interesting.
00:07:41.38	Sharna Brockett	The second thing is I know the SCA rent thing is coming up.
00:07:46.00	Sharna Brockett	So I'm beginning to see that. We're going to spend a ton of time on that.
00:07:49.48	Sharna Brockett	you know, and the money that they would, I mean, I know they signed an agreement and
00:07:53.93	Sharna Brockett	Maybe they shouldn't have.
00:07:55.10	Sharna Brockett	Um,
00:07:56.21	Sharna Brockett	But we're probably going to spend a ton of time on that. And what does that contribute? Probably less than 1% to the budget. So we're going to waste all this time. Just fix it.
00:08:06.20	Sharna Brockett	Make them pay you $1,000 more and then have another plan for the future. They're an adolescent, they're growing. You don't starve a teenager, you know?
00:08:13.05	Sharna Brockett	Um,
00:08:15.18	Sharna Brockett	There's a way to fix it. And let's just stop getting in our own way and spending tons of time on the things that don't matter. Focus on the pensions, the infrastructure. Those are the big pockets of money that we should be focusing our time and energy on, in my opinion. Thank you so much.
00:08:29.89	Blaustein	Kieran Culligan?
00:08:36.12	Unknown	Hi there. Good morning. Good to see you again. Hasn't been long.
00:08:38.97	Unknown	Um, I'm here because I'm just really excited about what you all can work on today. I was inspired by Tuesday and seeing the Ferry Lansai, which is you re-read through that strategic goal as the second item on the plan, right? You made huge progress against it. And I don't want to dwell on the things that we haven't gotten to. I want to dwell on the things that you have accomplished and how we can do more of that. And I think a big part of it is like, how do we really think about the benefits in addition to just thinking about the costs and the downsides, right? Like if the budget is such a big deal, why do we have donuts today?
00:09:14.21	Unknown	Well, I'll tell you why we have donuts today because
00:09:17.02	Unknown	The cost of that is very minor compared to all the benefits we get of creating community, of breaking bread together. And it sounds silly, but it extends to so many elements of what we could be doing here in Sausalito. We have a marine ship that we know we haven't been investing in and could be doing so much. The blue economy can even extend beyond the marine ship and could be a huge economic generator. Our downtown is dilapidated.
00:09:43.11	Unknown	We made a step towards improving that on Tuesday, but there's way more that can be then there. And all three of those things can have a huge boost to the financial, economic vitality of the town and the enjoyment of the residents and everyone else.
00:09:57.36	Unknown	Let's see that sort of optimism. It means that we can't dwell as long on all of these projects. Like we need to get to more things, you know, love director McGowan, right? He hasn't been able him and his staff have been so consumed. They haven't been able to seek more grant monies to improve our 1960s, 1970s infrastructure. So let's, let's empower those that we need to empower. Let's get more done. And I'm excited to see all of, to work with all of you to do that. Thanks.
00:10:26.78	Blaustein	Vicky Nichols.
00:10:34.58	Vicki Nichols	Good morning, Mayor Sobieski and Council. I would like to just briefly speak about my
00:10:42.50	Vicki Nichols	confusion about what happened the other night with the first reading of that ordinance and vehemently
00:10:48.27	Vicki Nichols	um, oppose the city
00:10:50.66	Vicki Nichols	properties being taken out of Planning Commission review. I think you just heard from another constituent that there's a movement
00:10:57.97	Vicki Nichols	about the SCA building that has never been inventoried.
00:11:02.81	Vicki Nichols	We know that there's possibly some significance, and we're being told in these emails about them doing maintenance and remodeling. So I want to bring that up and just stress that...
00:11:14.88	Vicki Nichols	on a higher level without some of these tools that we have available to us for historic preservation
00:11:22.00	Vicki Nichols	The council's either interested in it or they're not, but there hasn't been any funding generated or any interest, so I'm going to be back up here when you talk about your priorities. So I'd like to understand about what that ordinance did and if that's included, how to come and talk to the council and bring other constituents back to let you know their opinion. Thank you.
00:11:50.08	Blaustein	All right, anybody else in the house?
00:11:52.46	Blaustein	All right, so we'll go on to Zoom. Scott Thornburg.
00:12:02.21	Scott Thornburg	All right. Good morning, everyone.
00:12:03.97	Scott Thornburg	you
00:12:04.71	Scott Thornburg	I don't know if you can see me, I can't see you, but hello and good morning.
00:12:08.95	Scott Thornburg	I just wanted to say thank you so much again for all of your dedication and listening to the community.
00:12:16.25	Scott Thornburg	I thought Tuesday night's council meeting was exceptional.
00:12:19.27	Scott Thornburg	I had so many neighbors that were there that, you know, it was the first time they've ever come to a city council meeting. And I love that we're able to bring community together around key issues. So thank you for your hard work that night.
00:12:30.90	Scott Thornburg	As you go into the day today, there are a couple of things that are top of mind for me.
00:12:35.25	Scott Thornburg	We've had on the agenda a couple of times now trying to get our EDAC new members appointed. I know that's coming.
00:12:43.02	Scott Thornburg	So thank you for
00:12:45.53	Scott Thornburg	keeping that on the agenda. Hopefully we can get that resolved soon.
00:12:49.87	Scott Thornburg	We have some very interested volunteers that want to contribute to the city. And so this is a great way for them to do that. So I hope we'll be able to get that done soon.
00:13:00.47	Scott Thornburg	We are also as a committee looking to
00:13:03.62	Scott Thornburg	Um,
00:13:04.94	Scott Thornburg	prioritize our work and our agendas based on yours. And so as an outcome of today, I'm hoping to get some direction that we can take back to that group. Some things that are top of mind for us that we've been working on
00:13:18.81	Scott Thornburg	And we hope that we'll also be on your discussion today are things like Blue Economy and the Business Improvement District. Also, the business development downtown. I mentioned this earlier in the week. I do believe that the ferry landing and the PBID will contribute toward helping us to fill some of those vacancies. I think the city may also want to consider hiring a consultant, someone that can partner with.
00:13:45.44	Scott Thornburg	Brandon Phipps and the CDD team.
00:13:48.29	Scott Thornburg	to help fill those vacancies. They've made a lot of progress this year. Volunteers like Monica Finnegan in particular
00:13:54.43	Scott Thornburg	who doesn't like praise, but I'm giving it to her anyways, have made a lot of progress. So would encourage you to consider that as a part of your agenda today of how do we fill those spaces downtown. Thank you.
00:14:06.82	Blaustein	All right, next speaker on Zoom, Adrian Brinton.
00:14:14.14	Adrian Brinton	Good morning, and thanks for taking my comment. Like the other speakers, just wanted to say thank you for all of your work. I see how much work goes into running this city, and definitely appreciate how much time and dedication you all spend down here on a Saturday morning at 830. Didn't realize the donuts were there. I might have walked down to join you in person, but maybe next time. I did want to comment on the future agenda items. I saw that the parking, employee parking was a future agenda item, and I just encourage you to really
00:14:44.99	Adrian Brinton	expand on that in the parking. You know, parking is such an important source of revenue. It's something that,
00:14:50.91	Adrian Brinton	you know, funds the general fund. There's a lot of opportunity in parking to redo the technology to bring in more optimization, restripe the parking lots. You know, we put the investment in the city into hiring Wayne to manage the parking. You know, let's support him and really kind of build out our parking. We talk about it so much. You know, we really need to kind of fix it. We support the businesses. We support the city finances. So, you know, I would love to see that kind of fleshed out a little bit more in the priorities for the city. Thank you.
00:15:26.52	Blaustein	And there is no further public comment.
00:15:29.29	Ian Sobieski	Great. So we'll close public comment. The next opportunity for public comment will be according to our agenda at the end of the day. We are going till 1230, but we will end and Ms. Haworth maybe will tell us exactly about when that will be. But I would like to introduce her, the city council member from Manhattan Beach and former resident of these parts, Ms. Amy Haworth. Welcome to Sausalito.
00:16:00.86	Amy Haworth	I've got some space, guys, and sorry that I have my back to you all.
00:16:05.26	Amy Haworth	And then can you hear me? All right.
00:16:08.69	Amy Haworth	Excellent. Well, hello. Good morning, everybody.
00:16:11.96	Amy Haworth	Good morning to the public.
00:16:14.56	Amy Haworth	I'm really happy to be here and I'm excited to see so many members of the public. That's pretty extraordinary and not a surprise because I spoke to all of your council members before today.
00:16:25.92	Amy Haworth	And they talked with pride about the level of community engagement in Sausalito and the history of that. So it's not a surprise.
00:16:33.66	Amy Haworth	So I just, I wanna give, especially for the members of the public, just a quick intro into who I am and how I prepared for today and what I think might happen today.
00:16:44.67	Amy Haworth	As they said, Amy Haworth, I live in Manhattan Beach.
00:16:49.68	Amy Haworth	I've been elected five times now in Manhattan Beach, so I served two terms or eight years on our school board.
00:16:55.86	Amy Haworth	Then eight years on our city council.
00:16:58.30	Amy Haworth	We have mandatory term limits at city council. You have to sit out after your second term. And I ran again. And so now it's about my 18th year of public service. So.
00:17:09.89	Amy Haworth	It was lovely for you to thank them all for what they do, because trust me, they work really hard. I can tell you that. And so how I prepared for today is I worked extensively with the city manager.
00:17:23.14	Amy Haworth	And I had conversations with each council member
00:17:27.41	Amy Haworth	to kind of find out what they
00:17:30.41	Amy Haworth	value, what they want to prioritize, what they wanted for today.
00:17:35.04	Amy Haworth	And I don't really need to tell you this, but you have an extraordinary city council.
00:17:40.84	Amy Haworth	that I think really reflects a community.
00:17:43.16	Amy Haworth	I mean, Sausalito is a place
00:17:46.06	Amy Haworth	I don't know how many of you grew up here.
00:17:48.20	Amy Haworth	But it attracts people who want to, who can and want to live in a place like this.
00:17:55.12	Amy Haworth	And it is they reflect, I think, their community very well. I also want to say I was very appreciative of the doughnuts and
00:18:04.91	Amy Haworth	You know, sugar helps me a lot.
00:18:07.44	Amy Haworth	I also, when you guys were doing roll call, it was really hard for me because I was listening for my name.
00:18:12.70	Amy Haworth	Because, right, I was present.
00:18:15.25	Amy Haworth	Didn't happen.
00:18:16.59	Amy Haworth	because I'm not on this council. So I will do my best to ask you guys the questions. This is your community, your meeting,
00:18:24.48	Amy Haworth	I'm not here to tell you what I think you should do.
00:18:27.25	Amy Haworth	with the Caledonia business parking plan or anything. This is about what you guys wanna do.
00:18:33.58	Amy Haworth	All right.
00:18:35.06	Amy Haworth	Um,
00:18:36.40	Amy Haworth	You know, you have a lot of supporting documents and there's more that you know.
00:18:42.45	Amy Haworth	Um,
00:18:43.54	Amy Haworth	But what I think the primary purpose of today
00:18:47.20	Amy Haworth	is for the council members to discuss the items of priority for you.
00:18:52.46	Amy Haworth	and to discuss back and forth.
00:18:54.74	Amy Haworth	I,
00:18:55.60	Amy Haworth	I have devised a process which could work.
00:18:59.04	Amy Haworth	May not. And guess what? I'm really flexible and you guys are really smart. So we're going to go on this journey together to try to come up with something that will enable your staff to know where to focus, to focus their resources, which includes their time.
00:18:59.09	Scott Thornburg	Thanks.
00:18:59.19	Unknown	Why not?
00:18:59.57	Scott Thornburg	Bye.
00:19:14.43	Amy Haworth	Right. Because
00:19:16.58	Amy Haworth	What I like to say for a council member is, yeah, it's tons of fun to sit at the dais.
00:19:23.46	Amy Haworth	But what you really care about is what you get done for your community.
00:19:27.93	Amy Haworth	And it is hard to get things done.
00:19:30.35	Amy Haworth	When
00:19:32.37	Amy Haworth	you keep coming up with new ideas, right? Or you keep, oh, let's do this this way. Let's, you know what?
00:19:37.30	Amy Haworth	We're going to focus. You guys are the what. What can we do? What do we want to do?
00:19:42.02	Amy Haworth	And we're going to try to narrow that focus a little, which can be painful.
00:19:46.65	Amy Haworth	Nobody wants to say they love this child better than that child. Okay? We're not going to...
00:19:52.33	Amy Haworth	cast out any children.
00:19:54.53	Amy Haworth	Keep them on the list, okay? Unless everybody says, why is that on there?
00:19:58.36	Amy Haworth	But...
00:19:59.03	Amy Haworth	We want to kind of narrow it down a lot.
00:20:02.71	Amy Haworth	So we are going to start
00:20:05.28	Amy Haworth	um,
00:20:07.17	Amy Haworth	We're going to talk about what went well last year. A short exercise on this is we're not breaking into small groups yet. We're not doing any kind of stuff like that. I'm not doing an icebreaker. We're not passing around an orange or whatever else people do. Decorate cupcakes, I heard at one place.
00:20:24.60	Amy Haworth	Um,
00:20:25.48	Amy Haworth	But we're going to start in that so that you can see what has gone well. And it seems like the ferry landing decision the other night is something that might have gone well, but I'll let you guys decide.
00:20:34.74	Amy Haworth	We are going to talk a little bit about
00:20:37.20	Amy Haworth	the strengths, the weaknesses, the opportunities, the threats, or SWOT.
00:20:42.12	Amy Haworth	But again, just to give a snapshot in time, that's not some document that we're gonna adhere to, but we wanna make sure that people are thinking about
00:20:51.46	Amy Haworth	You know, things are probably different than they were a year ago.
00:20:53.98	Amy Haworth	And
00:20:54.76	Amy Haworth	I laugh because I did one of these in February of 2020.
00:21:00.66	Amy Haworth	which was a month before the world shut down.
00:21:03.82	Amy Haworth	So nobody had on their bingo or SWAT card pandemic, right? So,
00:21:09.07	Amy Haworth	that's something else that will come up really quickly.
00:21:13.67	Amy Haworth	So my objective is to try to help you guys narrow down
00:21:17.62	Amy Haworth	Now, keep in mind,
00:21:18.94	Amy Haworth	You have not looked or not looked, but you haven't worked on your budget. You haven't had, I assume you're gonna have a budget workshop or two.
00:21:26.68	Amy Haworth	That's also gonna impact everything. So you wanna be able to align whatever you come out with with the budget.
00:21:32.83	Amy Haworth	So some things may fall out there too, right?
00:21:36.08	Amy Haworth	And, but the goal is to start the work today
00:21:39.42	Amy Haworth	at a future council meeting to approve sort of this idea
00:21:43.67	Amy Haworth	Adopt the budget. Right. And that's what's going to drive it.
00:21:48.62	Amy Haworth	We mentioned strategic plan.
00:21:51.15	Amy Haworth	I like to call this, we're not doing a strategic plan today. I mean, that's hours and hours and weeks and months of
00:21:57.85	Amy Haworth	really, really
00:21:59.20	Amy Haworth	you know,
00:21:59.79	Amy Haworth	broad thinking and visioning.
00:22:03.94	Amy Haworth	And you don't have to call it this, but I call it a work plan.
00:22:07.10	Amy Haworth	I want to know what you guys are going to have staff focus on. And staff wants to know that. Now, it can be sort of broad, right? Right.
00:22:14.08	Amy Haworth	But
00:22:16.24	Amy Haworth	Ironically, my council is doing our meeting on Tuesday night. So this is good practice for me.
00:22:21.27	Amy Haworth	But you know, you want to focus on what can, what are they going to do
00:22:25.93	Amy Haworth	so that if you do want to add something in a month or two, you understand, well, if we do that, then they can't do this. So it's a little less high level than a strategic plan, but we will talk about
00:22:36.63	Amy Haworth	the strategic plan and all of that.
00:22:39.06	Amy Haworth	Any questions?
00:22:44.96	Unknown	Thank you.
00:22:54.75	Amy Haworth	That's okay. That's a good...
00:22:56.66	Unknown	Yes.
00:22:56.98	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
00:23:01.03	Unknown	Thank you.
00:23:01.22	Unknown	Thank you.
00:23:01.47	Unknown	Thank you.
00:23:06.48	Janelle Bonnicksen	One thing we don't get to do at our council meetings is really give our perspective as council members, generally as to
00:23:12.88	Janelle Bonnicksen	why we're here. And so I wanted to offer up to my colleagues that maybe we could each put the clock on two minutes
00:23:14.35	Amy Haworth	And.
00:23:14.85	Amy Haworth	it.
00:23:14.93	Unknown	So I,
00:23:15.47	Amy Haworth	I'm going to tell you.
00:23:19.91	Janelle Bonnicksen	time ourselves and share with the community why we're here. I love that. And what our perspective really is, because I think there's a, you know, Sean, I take your comments so well around, you know,
00:23:32.47	Janelle Bonnicksen	you guys, why are you spending time on these other things? And I think it would be good for us to share kind of our perspective, and maybe it'll help us all reach a better conclusion today, if that please.
00:23:40.92	Amy Haworth	I appreciate that suggestion. I want to...
00:23:43.72	Amy Haworth	give a few ground rules, but if anybody's really opposed to that, let me know. If we time it to two minutes each,
00:23:51.13	Amy Haworth	which does go in,
00:23:52.53	Amy Haworth	What's that?
00:23:56.11	Ian Sobieski	We can do that, yes. Two minutes.
00:23:58.20	Ian Sobieski	We can.
00:23:59.86	Amy Haworth	Well, okay, which that leads into my main point.
00:24:03.64	Amy Haworth	about ground rules. I humbly ask the mayor,
00:24:07.64	Amy Haworth	Um,
00:24:08.99	Amy Haworth	if,
00:24:10.32	Amy Haworth	to if you, well, I ask all of you, are you, if you're comfortable when, if we're having a discussion,
00:24:15.89	Amy Haworth	And it's going on. I mean, it's a good discussion, but if it's going on and we can't, I would like to say, I think we need to wrap up.
00:24:22.81	Amy Haworth	We can create a parking lot of issues.
00:24:25.13	Amy Haworth	to let me facilitate.
00:24:27.50	Amy Haworth	Um,
00:24:28.73	Amy Haworth	Do people?
00:24:30.57	Amy Haworth	I mean, that's why I came down and
00:24:32.34	Ian Sobieski	I think you have consensus on that.
00:24:34.08	Amy Haworth	Okay, well, how about, Mayor, do I have consensus?
00:24:36.56	Ian Sobieski	do for me.
00:24:36.81	Amy Haworth	me vice mayor.
00:24:38.03	Joan Cox	Absolutely.
00:24:40.12	Amy Haworth	Councilmember Blalstein? Yes. Yes, please. Councilmember Kelman and Councilmember Hoffman? All right.
00:24:41.81	Vicki Nichols	Thank you.
00:24:41.84	Joan Cox	Please.
00:24:45.64	Amy Haworth	around Doomer Lidl.
00:24:46.82	Amy Haworth	So my other ground rule, and I was going to mention Ted Lasso,
00:24:50.68	Amy Haworth	But he's a Kansas City Chiefs fan.
00:24:54.13	Amy Haworth	Jason.
00:24:55.24	Amy Haworth	Okay. All right. I didn't. Okay. All right. So there I mentioned them anyway. One of my favorite episodes is when he talks about being curious.
00:25:02.21	Amy Haworth	not judgmental.
00:25:03.73	Amy Haworth	And so I ask everybody to
00:25:07.09	Amy Haworth	You know, your counsel colleague may have said something incredibly stupid. You guys would never say anything stupid, but they may have said something that you just really disagree with. Let's try it. We're not going to react to.
00:25:17.99	Amy Haworth	what everybody says. This is a brainstorming, an open session. This is okay. So everybody be curious. Okay.
00:25:23.93	Amy Haworth	So why don't we do that, Councilmember Kelman? Why don't?
00:25:27.22	Amy Haworth	We and who's running the timer? Do I? Okay, good. I don't have to. Okay. So why don't we start? So this is your why? Why are you on council? Not why did you run? I mean, I kind of I kind of understand that. But why are you here?
00:25:39.88	Amy Haworth	So we'll start with the mayor and go around that way. How's that?
00:25:43.00	Ian Sobieski	Thank you very much. Personally, I don't feel like I have any of the answers and never have. I just have my life experience, which is all of our lives experiences are unique. And, and I initially as a member as a resident, looked in got involved in the economic development advisory committee and to my surprise thought discovered that some of my perspective seemed to be helpful. And so my idea for running for city council and being here was to add my life experience and perspective to the mix of five or other people and hope that and trust that the outcome from that mixture would be better. So that was my personal motivation. and then at a high level for, since I still have a minute left, at a high level for the city, I'm really motivated by not leaving opportunities to spoil. I hate seeing food waste on the table. I hate seeing lose-lose outcomes. I often think in my life experience, because I work with startups and multiple parties that often have to negotiate deals, I'm often confronted with a situation where there's situations seem to be at loggerheads and there's no path forward. And my life experiences, there often is a path forward. And over and over again, I found that by sifting, by engaging, by staying open-minded, by being curious and not judgmental, by keeping goodwill, one can find a path forward that makes more people feel satisfied, if not entirely happy, and that you have fewer lose-lose outcomes. So those drive me crazy and win-wins make me happy.
00:26:27.12	Jill Hoffman	Thank you.
00:26:30.84	Unknown	Thank you.
00:26:30.89	Unknown	Yeah.
00:26:31.14	Unknown	Thank you.
00:27:29.49	Amy Haworth	Okay, so you're here to win.
00:27:31.05	Joan Cox	Thank you.
00:27:31.06	Amy Haworth	Okay.
00:27:33.24	Joan Cox	uh,
00:27:33.97	Joan Cox	I'm here because I love Sausalito.
00:27:36.04	Joan Cox	you
00:27:36.53	Joan Cox	I moved here in 1985, and I am passionate about maintaining the things that are great about Sausalito and fixing the things that are not great about Sausalito. I am a municipal lawyer that advises cities and counties and special districts throughout California, and so I feel privileged to bring to fore here some of the things I learn in my job. I'm also a mediator who assists
00:28:06.01	Joan Cox	parties who are on polar opposites from one another find common ground and I welcome the
00:28:12.95	Joan Cox	opportunity
00:28:14.25	Joan Cox	to try to do that
00:28:16.02	Joan Cox	here in Sausalito.
00:28:17.57	Joan Cox	One of our greatest assets is our community residential involvement. One of our greatest challenges and assets is the diversity of opinion amongst our residents.
00:28:27.46	Kathy Nikitas	Mm-hmm.
00:28:27.97	Kathy Nikitas	Thank you.
00:28:28.03	Joan Cox	Thank you.
00:28:28.15	Joan Cox	And our businesses. And so to welcome, as you said, be curious, not judgmental, is really an ideal opportunity for us to take advantage of the talent that is available to us. And so I am privileged to participate in that.
00:28:51.51	Amy Haworth	Thank you. It's a great point about there's a lot of engagement and, you know, but maybe even the public, well, obviously, doesn't always agree. Right. So that's that is challenging. Appreciate that.
00:29:01.30	Amy Haworth	Councilmember Lowstein, former mayor.
00:29:02.98	Jill Hoffman	This is a great idea, Councilmember Kelman. So thank you for this.
00:29:06.22	Jill Hoffman	I'm here because I really believe in the power of our community and the power of local government. I think a lot of us share a feeling that what's happening...
00:29:13.55	Jill Hoffman	nationally and internationally is rather scary.
00:29:16.21	Jill Hoffman	And I've seen through my work in the community and being able to serve all of you and work alongside such an excellent council of really incredibly talented individuals and get to know our amazing residents what is possible with engagement and when people show up. And I think our meeting on Tuesday is a great example of that and how much all of you can show up and change sentiment and move tides. And I'm really inspired by that every day and being a part of such an incredible community that can show up and make change. I think that at the local level, you can determine what your streets look like, how your schools are run, where you walk every day, where your dollars are directly spent, how your city hall looks and works, and what kind of culture you want to have. And it's a unique opportunity to do that. And I think local government is where it all happens. So I'm really honored to be able to be here and work alongside all of you. And at a higher level, as Ian said, I'm very aware of some of the biggest challenges of the next few generations that we all face, whether that's climate change, economic insecurity,
00:30:17.05	Jill Hoffman	disaster preparedness, financial stability for our community, transparency. So I'm hopeful that we'll be able to work together on all of those issues because I know we all love Sausalito very much.
00:30:28.12	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
00:30:29.25	Amy Haworth	Councilmember Cowman.
00:30:30.12	Janelle Bonnicksen	Thanks, everybody. Hi, everyone. Good morning. So last night I had the opportunity, thanks to Abbott, to do a climate talk in the library. 80 people showed up to share this. And I'll say what I think everyone feels. I have a deep, deep love for Sausalito. I mean, I call this my campus. I just absolutely love this community and this actual environment of where we are. I've lived here since 2001. When I first moved to town, I was a young land use attorney.
00:31:00.16	Janelle Bonnicksen	randomly joined this thing called the Planning Commission. I really had no idea what it was, to be honest. And I ended up serving 10 years. And the reason I ran for city council was because I got involved with the general plan update. And we had no long-term planning around sustainability, around climate change, around resilience. Everything we were doing was in a silo. And I had seen that through my 10 years on the Planning Commission. We weren't talking to one another. And I couldn't believe we didn't have this opportunity to really plan for ourselves in long-term fashion um that took into account climate change and so um you talking to one another and I couldn't believe we didn't have this opportunity to really plan for for ourselves in a long-term fashion on the took into account climate change and so I realized as I dug in as I was running for council that Sausalito was a duck
00:31:34.45	Janelle Bonnicksen	We looked great on top. Man, we were working so hard underwater. We have $18 million worth of deferred sewer maintenance. We have done very little work on our MLK properties. We have pension obligations. I'm looking at chat. We have long-term debt on our COPs. We have general obligation bonds that our residents pay. We have a lot of costs that we have not accounted for.
00:31:56.74	Janelle Bonnicksen	And so when I think about it, and I told people this last night, the reason I voted for the ferry on Tuesday was because, thanks to the hard work of all the volunteers, that became not just a beautification project, but a resilience project. And that's what I think we need, and that's the lens I want to bring to today, because I think that makes us as a community
00:32:15.39	Janelle Bonnicksen	able to last into a lifetime. So, um, lifelong team sport athlete. I love consensus. I love hearing other people and trying to find that middle ground. Last thing I'll say is everybody here has now been the mayor of Sausalito. Um, so congrats to us, but it's a unique perspective.
00:32:31.52	Amy Haworth	Great. Thank you. Wow.
00:32:33.16	Amy Haworth	Boom.
00:32:33.99	Amy Haworth	She had practice. All right. She's a judge.
00:32:37.01	Jill Teasdale	She suggested it, so I'm assuming that she was. Yeah, no, exactly.
00:32:38.83	Amy Haworth	Yeah, exactly. 100%. I mean, you know.
00:32:43.35	Jill Teasdale	Just saying.
00:32:44.90	Jill Teasdale	So,
00:32:46.83	Jill Teasdale	So my why. So my why is pretty simple.
00:32:50.41	Jill Teasdale	My why is I look at everything that comes before the city council through the lens of what's best for the entire community. I think that's what our job is here up in the city council.
00:32:58.66	Jill Teasdale	We all have special groups or special projects that we like to assist. But my lens is does that warrant elevation up to the city council level
00:33:07.37	Jill Teasdale	Does that warrant the very expensive time of council time, the very expensive time of staff time to work on that project? And so that's constantly the lens that I look through and that's always my evaluation on staff time
00:33:21.52	Jill Teasdale	and priority and whether or not we're going to spend money on that, the people's money on that, right? Because we're not spending
00:33:27.55	Jill Teasdale	the government's money. We're spending tax dollars at people in Sausalito pay
00:33:31.16	Jill Teasdale	We're spending sales tax. We're spending business license tax money. So you better have a very good reason. I think if you're want to put something on the agenda, that that's something that is going to
00:33:41.27	Jill Teasdale	assist everybody in Sausalito. I don't think we've been as disciplined about that in the past couple of years as we should have been.
00:33:46.92	Jill Teasdale	We need to set priorities. If something doesn't meet that objective criteria,
00:33:51.71	Jill Teasdale	But
00:33:52.03	Jill Teasdale	priority criteria
00:33:53.76	Jill Teasdale	then it might be a great project for a community group to work on, such as Sausalio Beautiful or some other group. But does that warrant our very expensive staff time? Does that warrant our very expensive city council time? So that's mainly my, and that's where I tell everybody who wants to meet with me, it's not always what they want to hear because they're meeting with me because they have a special project they want approved. But that's the lens that I look at.
00:34:17.16	Jill Teasdale	And I think we need to strictly adhere to that. And that's our responsibility as a city council, as well as adhering strictly to whatever rules that we're subject to under the ethical rules and the Brown Act rules. That's our, that's our,
00:34:30.16	Jill Teasdale	contract with the community. That's why we took our oath to comply with the Constitution of
00:34:34.83	Jill Teasdale	California and also the rules that are set down for this governing body. So that's my North Star that I always look at. It's not always popular, but I believe that's why we're here.
00:34:45.39	Amy Haworth	Great, thank you. Look at your, you were prepared. Come on, she told you. No, that was great. That was great.
00:34:51.77	Amy Haworth	You know, it struck me that and something that I was going to talk about a little later, but
00:34:56.97	Amy Haworth	And you all mentioned the opportunity and also the challenge of the public engagement.
00:35:02.17	Amy Haworth	And, you know, and and
00:35:03.79	Amy Haworth	The fact is, you guys have a role.
00:35:06.34	Amy Haworth	And not just you in the room, all of you, all of you.
00:35:10.01	Amy Haworth	you have to advocate for your project, right? You have, it is your right and duty to advocate. Advocate looks, avocation looks different than governance. And that's where it's can be really challenging for all of you up there.
00:35:24.95	Amy Haworth	You know, when you have, because it's like,
00:35:27.09	Amy Haworth	I know that if 10 people come to our meeting talking about
00:35:31.18	Amy Haworth	a new dog park,
00:35:33.13	Amy Haworth	Some of my colleagues will feel, oh, well, everybody wants this. We got it. This is really important. We got to do this now.
00:35:39.31	Amy Haworth	And it may be important. I love what you said. It could be really important or a really great project, but maybe it doesn't fit into everything else.
00:35:46.31	Amy Haworth	governing what you guys do is is challenging, right? Because, and it may even appeal to something that you care about deeply.
00:35:53.65	Amy Haworth	But,
00:35:54.70	Amy Haworth	that's the challenge. So that's kind of exactly how
00:35:58.60	Amy Haworth	I want us to think about it today. And I have to laugh because I brought my little magnifying glass because, and I have a slide you're gonna see that says, what's your lens?
00:36:07.86	Amy Haworth	A couple of you said it.
00:36:09.28	Amy Haworth	That's awesome. All right. So we talked about the ground rules. Let's go into and the agenda.
00:36:16.57	Amy Haworth	Again, it's, I don't want to say loose because we will stick to a lot of things, but I want to, we're going to talk about the wins. We're going to talk about the strengths, the weaknesses, opportunities, and threats.
00:36:27.50	Amy Haworth	I have planned a break, but it also depends on all of you. If you guys are exhausted in five minutes, stand up. I know. I know you guys are troopers, but let's be flexible on that. And if you have to run out, run out.
00:36:40.65	Amy Haworth	But then I do want to do a review of the strategic plan goals.
00:36:46.52	Amy Haworth	just to see if there's anything on there that really doesn't ring true for for the council and
00:36:51.85	Amy Haworth	When I was looking at the goals, well, I'll talk about it then.
00:36:55.55	Amy Haworth	And then we have to talk about your future agenda items that I've been spending some time with.
00:37:00.83	Amy Haworth	But also through those two agenda items, if you will,
00:37:05.79	Amy Haworth	is that there's a lot of time. That's the time to have these discussions, right? Maybe it's not about per se a goal that's already on there, but maybe it's how you envision it now. So I want the most important thing is for you guys to have dialogue.
00:37:20.95	Amy Haworth	Again, that's and if it changes, if you want to change a goal, if you want to change, if you want to take something off future agenda or elevate it, that's what we're here to do.
00:37:29.94	Amy Haworth	and nothing is set in stone. And then again, public comments, and then I'll wrap it up. So with that,
00:37:35.90	Amy Haworth	With that.
00:37:37.10	Amy Haworth	Why don't we do what you guys think were the wins? Sorry.
00:37:40.25	Ian Sobieski	Just a question for you. Since you laid out our agenda, just for the benefit of people that might be watching and in the audience, when about do you anticipate future public comments in terms of the time
00:37:52.37	Ian Sobieski	There probably.
00:37:52.45	Amy Haworth	Probably around 1210. Because we have a hard stop for Summit 1230. So I want that to be at the end. I plan 15 minutes for that.
00:38:02.63	Ian Sobieski	just so that way people have some I appreciate that if they wanted to make a public comment or leave the room and come back to public comment
00:38:04.33	Amy Haworth	I appreciate that.
00:38:08.03	Amy Haworth	Yeah, I appreciate that. I'm going to go get a marker and I'm going to attempt to write on this because I want to talk about our wins.
00:38:15.99	Unknown	Let's do that.
00:38:16.97	Unknown	you
00:38:17.11	Unknown	Um,
00:38:19.96	Unknown	All right. So why don't we go around?
00:38:23.42	Unknown	and
00:38:24.04	Unknown	Thank you.
00:38:24.08	Amy Haworth	I think it's a feeling
00:38:26.30	Amy Haworth	Like everybody wins. Like I don't like no long explanation.
00:38:28.36	Unknown	win.
00:38:30.81	Unknown	Thank you.
00:38:31.96	Amy Haworth	You know, we celebrated this. We're doing Super Sunday, whatever it is.
00:38:32.11	Unknown	Yeah.
00:38:36.85	Amy Haworth	that it gets.
00:38:38.18	Jill Hoffman	Great.
00:38:39.14	Amy Haworth	And I'm going to write it down on the red and black.
00:38:42.59	Amy Haworth	Because that's been challenging to be on that.
00:38:46.57	Amy Haworth	Okay.
00:38:47.95	Amy Haworth	All right, and also, and then I will ask city manager,
00:38:48.16	Unknown	Elsa and
00:38:52.70	Amy Haworth	on the web.
00:38:54.77	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
00:38:56.09	Ian Sobieski	Uh, we last year, uh, settled our labor agreements with our police union and with our SEIU union. And we had a balanced budget.
00:39:16.32	Joan Cox	I have like 20 wins, but okay. So we were the first city, we'll go around, yeah.
00:39:19.19	Linda Fodge	Thank you.
00:39:19.22	Jill Hoffman	Okay.
00:39:28.12	Unknown	Thank you.
00:39:28.76	Joan Cox	No, they're all...
00:39:30.72	Joan Cox	We were the first city in Marin to pass and the only city in Marin to timely adopt a housing element.
00:39:40.77	Joan Cox	We had a clean audit.
00:39:48.01	Unknown	All right.
00:39:48.84	Unknown	Thank you.
00:39:51.37	Jill Hoffman	We hired a city attorney and we retained an excellent city manager.
00:39:58.17	Linda Fodge	See you.
00:39:59.35	Linda Fodge	And I'm
00:40:00.60	Linda Fodge	Thank you.
00:40:04.16	Janelle Bonnicksen	I got to say, guys, a million dollars so we can hire a resilience manager and do a C-level rise vulnerability assessment.
00:40:14.35	Janelle Bonnicksen	And then I'm going to make this into one. Kevin, Brandon, Kathy, Chad, Chris.
00:40:22.03	Vicki Nichols	Katie.
00:40:22.40	Janelle Bonnicksen	you
00:40:22.55	Janelle Bonnicksen	Katie.
00:40:27.18	Janelle Bonnicksen	Don't miss anybody. I say Kevin. I say Kathy.
00:40:30.22	Janelle Bonnicksen	Abbott. Abbott. Jeez, sorry. Abby's right there. Sorry. Yeah, 100%. Okay.
00:40:33.10	Scott Thornburg	Yes.
00:40:33.20	Jill Hoffman	Sorry.
00:40:33.44	Jill Hoffman	All right.
00:40:33.46	Linda Fodge	I'M GOING TO BE ABLE TO
00:40:33.56	Jill Hoffman	Thank you.
00:40:36.16	Jill Teasdale	Yeah.
00:40:37.95	Jill Teasdale	Oh, I'm sorry, too. Oh, my goodness. Okay. Right here. I'm sorry. We're doing wins just this past year? Yeah.
00:40:40.04	Unknown	Thank you.
00:40:43.41	Unknown	Yeah.
00:40:44.11	Jill Teasdale	I think one of those things.
00:40:44.97	Unknown	This is back.
00:40:45.61	Jill Teasdale	This is Kat here, but if you learn
00:40:46.97	Amy Haworth	Yes.
00:40:47.50	Jill Teasdale	Can you think back?
00:40:47.50	Unknown	Can you think back?
00:40:48.19	Amy Haworth	All right.
00:40:49.27	Amy Haworth	That was good.
00:40:49.69	Unknown	Thank you.
00:40:50.42	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
00:40:50.74	Amy Haworth	See you next time.
00:40:52.66	Jill Teasdale	Well, a lot of them.
00:40:54.43	Unknown	A lot of them.
00:40:56.36	Unknown	Certainly.
00:40:57.54	Unknown	Put your mic on.
00:40:57.61	Unknown	Thank you.
00:41:01.45	Jill Teasdale	Yeah, I would agree.
00:41:04.88	Jill Teasdale	from the standpoint of the health of
00:41:08.08	Jill Teasdale	whatever our efforts.
00:41:09.53	Jill Teasdale	I would agree that the
00:41:11.46	Jill Teasdale	Passing our housing, certifying our housing, that was a huge...
00:41:15.09	Jill Teasdale	huge team effort and we got it across the line, you know, so.
00:41:18.95	Jill Teasdale	That was probably the biggest win of this year.
00:41:23.22	Jill Teasdale	There were, yeah.
00:41:26.38	Unknown	Thank you.
00:41:26.41	Amy Haworth	I mean, I can't tell you.
00:41:28.72	Amy Haworth	That boring kind of left it because our city almost went into huge losses
00:41:38.31	Ian Sobieski	I think we should give the vice mayor the chance to read off.
00:41:40.89	Ian Sobieski	the rest of her list and just keep going around until looking forward
00:41:43.54	Joan Cox	Thank you.
00:41:43.91	Joan Cox	Thank you.
00:41:45.28	Ian Sobieski	Let's go around it.
00:41:46.85	Joan Cox	Thanks. I can say two more. No. All right. Come on, Ian. All right. Well, I'm going to do one of Ian's, which was we negotiated an interest-bearing account at Bank of Marin. So instead of our money just sitting there, we now earn 4%.
00:41:48.74	Ian Sobieski	No.
00:41:48.94	Babette McDougall	that.
00:41:49.88	Ian Sobieski	I'm not.
00:41:51.05	Babette McDougall	Thank you.
00:42:01.85	Ian Sobieski	It depends blended four and a half, but some accounts are at five. It's a, it's a laddered bond portfolio and a, and an interest bearing account. So.
00:42:10.94	Joan Cox	And that was Ian's accomplishment.
00:42:13.05	Joan Cox	And the city manager.
00:42:15.03	Joan Cox	I know.
00:42:16.18	Joan Cox	We appointed a new police chief and promoted a bunch of staff, and we literally are having a renaissance at our police department.
00:42:22.91	Jill Hoffman	Thank you.
00:42:23.84	Linda Fodge	Good.
00:42:24.92	Linda Fodge	Thank you.
00:42:25.03	Unknown	Thank you.
00:42:25.05	Linda Fodge	that.
00:42:25.20	Unknown	that too.
00:42:25.66	Linda Fodge	Thank you.
00:42:26.62	Jill Hoffman	We passed and then started approving, receiving funds for Measure L, which was a big win fiscally for the city. And
00:42:35.87	Jill Hoffman	It's a sales tax increase.
00:42:37.05	Ian Sobieski	$24 million over eight years for infrastructure.
00:42:41.18	Jill Hoffman	Yeah.
00:42:41.74	Jill Hoffman	Um, and, uh, we hosted our toast to Sausalito event that our whole community really loved.
00:42:53.47	Janelle Bonnicksen	We had our first ever Sausalito Pride celebration and painted the crosswalks.
00:43:00.08	Unknown	Okay.
00:43:02.78	Unknown	Thank you.
00:43:04.39	Janelle Bonnicksen	It's first ever Saucelito Pride.
00:43:07.54	Janelle Bonnicksen	And we also, I think as a council, agreed we need to do a deep dive on the value of our city-owned property and our leases and try to start to establish, using Cushman Wakefield, a better process for understanding our vacancies and what the market rate is.
00:43:26.09	Janelle Bonnicksen	Just property management would probably be more succinct.
00:43:26.31	Scott Thornburg	just
00:43:37.49	Unknown	No, that was all right. I still don't accept that problem.
00:43:40.85	Joan Cox	We contributed a million dollars to our pension debt at the end of last year.
00:43:47.91	Joan Cox	We removed the vedora, which had been littering our waterfront for over 20 years.
00:43:56.97	Joan Cox	It's a huge 98-ton concrete boat from our waterfront.
00:44:06.94	Jill Hoffman	We launched our first ever citywide DEI program with the help of Kathy Nikitas.
00:44:06.98	Joan Cox	That's my.
00:44:07.26	Linda Fodge	Thank you.
00:44:12.61	Jill Hoffman	which was great. And what else do I have on here?
00:44:18.05	Jill Hoffman	Thank you.
00:44:18.28	Jill Hoffman	And we successfully approved an RFP for smart cities, energy updates in our community.
00:44:27.75	Jill Hoffman	Mm-hmm.
00:44:32.36	Janelle Bonnicksen	Our eelgrass is back and thriving, which means...
00:44:36.51	Janelle Bonnicksen	or eelgrass.
00:44:37.64	Janelle Bonnicksen	which means our herring are running, which is a big part of our community and who we are and our identity.
00:44:42.84	Janelle Bonnicksen	I think we also, as a city council, all got on the same page about our long-term debt and the disarray of our finances in the past. And thanks to Chad, we had a clean audit.
00:44:57.67	Ian Sobieski	Yeah. And just, just to emphasize that we have a new finance entire department. There's no, no one is all new with a new director of finance. Who's we use the root cracker Jack. So it's cracker Jack. And in terms of quality of life, uh, jazz by the bay used to end on the Friday before labor day. And now it goes well into September.
00:45:24.57	Joan Cox	We took the first steps toward adoption of a bid for our downtown.
00:45:29.33	Joan Cox	And we, hand in hand with that, are collaborating much more closely with our Chamber of Commerce and our business community.
00:45:39.47	Unknown	And he says it.
00:45:41.36	Joan Cox	Thank you.
00:45:43.70	Joan Cox	With the chamber and with the business community, yes.
00:45:48.90	Jill Hoffman	We hosted our first Sausalito Marin City Wellness Day, and we made use of our Parks and Rec's facilities free of charge for Marin City nonprofits.
00:46:01.84	Janelle Bonnicksen	We, I think, finally, with the community, understood the dilapidated status of our roads.
00:46:10.30	Janelle Bonnicksen	and publicly aired that in collaboration with the community to help us identify where that should sit in our capital employment program.
00:46:21.54	Janelle Bonnicksen	And it hasn't happened yet, but it is pending. We fully understand the need for a risk manager and are in process of hiring that person.
00:46:34.84	Amy Haworth	do not have laundry for.
00:46:36.61	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
00:46:36.62	Joan Cox	No.
00:46:36.72	Amy Haworth	Yeah.
00:46:36.79	Joan Cox	Thank you.
00:46:36.81	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
00:46:37.06	Janelle Bonnicksen	Correct.
00:46:37.94	Janelle Bonnicksen	Thank you.
00:46:43.76	Joan Cox	Yes, so.
00:46:44.98	Jill Teasdale	Oh, sorry? Yeah. Sheep?
00:46:45.53	Joan Cox	Oh, no.
00:46:45.72	Unknown	Sorry.
00:46:45.85	Joan Cox	All right.
00:46:45.89	Unknown	Yeah.
00:46:46.21	Joan Cox	Yeah.
00:46:46.33	Unknown	She.
00:46:46.56	Joan Cox	Thank you.
00:46:48.07	Jill Teasdale	Yeah.
00:46:49.06	Jill Teasdale	getting uncomfortable up here because a lot of these wins from this year are things that have been years in the making. And so
00:46:56.32	Jill Teasdale	You know, I don't, I'm not going to respond to these things that are claimed as wins because many of them are, but I mean...
00:47:04.82	Jill Teasdale	It was great that the Verdura was pulled this year, but that was 10 years worth of really hard work and work with the owner of the boat and work with our
00:47:12.89	Jill Teasdale	you know, our police department, our waterfront and legal to pull it. So,
00:47:18.12	Jill Teasdale	you know,
00:47:19.27	Jill Teasdale	Anyway, I don't want to
00:47:21.93	Jill Teasdale	I don't want to.
00:47:23.10	Jill Teasdale	Anyway.
00:47:23.72	Jill Teasdale	negatively engaged, but
00:47:25.91	Jill Teasdale	crying victory for some of these things for this past year on some of these things is...
00:47:31.48	Jill Teasdale	you know.
00:47:32.87	Jill Teasdale	Anyway, sorry. You called on me. That's my...
00:47:39.97	Amy Haworth	I think that
00:47:40.97	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
00:47:41.19	Amy Haworth	My intention is not that I'm giving you guys credit for everything. And I don't know that you guys are taking credit for it.
00:47:48.24	Amy Haworth	But this is just whether it's five years ago, ten years ago, or six months ago.
00:47:53.29	Amy Haworth	happened and it's good, right? It is positive interaction and positive stuff. I would also say that a lot of stuff on this list
00:48:01.54	Amy Haworth	is not something that was a council special project. I mean, negotiating or especially negotiating your labor contracts, that's the work that a city has to do, right? And hiring a finance director, a new finance team, that's all stuff that your city manager does
00:48:20.35	Amy Haworth	But it's still seen as a win, I think, for the community.
00:48:24.45	Amy Haworth	So that's my intention and it's, um,
00:48:28.03	Amy Haworth	Because it's important, right? Because sometimes we, and I say we, I'll do this, just like I said,
00:48:34.11	Amy Haworth	And a place like this,
00:48:35.63	Amy Haworth	We think it's all about us, right?
00:48:39.62	Amy Haworth	We have political pressure and we know what we want to get done. We know what our love is.
00:48:43.10	Jill Hoffman	want to get done?
00:48:43.81	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
00:48:43.83	Jill Hoffman	Thank you.
00:48:43.84	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
00:48:44.08	Amy Haworth	And it's just kind of a job to say either how to get that done or, hey, did you forget we have a healthy element because it's such a heavy lift, right? So trying to balance those things, this is helpful for that.
00:48:57.31	Amy Haworth	So are we getting
00:48:57.97	Unknown	it.
00:48:58.64	Amy Haworth	Yeah.
00:48:59.01	Unknown	Thank you.
00:48:59.69	Joan Cox	So we recovered a bunch of money that we had spent and that we were seeking recovery of. We actually did recover a bunch of that this year. And we also got a bunch of grant funding in addition to the sea level rise million dollar grant.
00:49:14.66	Unknown	All right.
00:49:18.15	Amy Haworth	All right.
00:49:18.61	Amy Haworth	Anything else from anybody else or back to the questionnaire?
00:49:22.79	Joan Cox	I think we've covered the waterfront.
00:49:27.40	Unknown	Okay, so I'm doing it.
00:49:28.61	Unknown	I've worked with people who've been like, pulled three markers and made it look beautiful. So hopefully you can read my writing.
00:49:37.17	Unknown	We're going to put 10 minutes back there.
00:49:40.58	Unknown	And then...
00:49:43.43	Amy Haworth	All of you,
00:49:45.10	Amy Haworth	This is going to be dancing.
00:49:46.92	Amy Haworth	Bye.
00:49:47.63	Amy Haworth	I believe you were all kind of in, oh, I'm sorry, Mr. Sweet and I did it.
00:49:51.80	Unknown	Whoa.
00:49:52.91	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
00:49:53.05	Amy Haworth	Yeah.
00:49:54.30	Amy Haworth	I'm going to talk about the importance of staff.
00:49:56.78	Amy Haworth	So, Mr. City Manager.
00:49:59.02	Amy Haworth	If you have different lens,
00:50:02.23	Chris Zapata	I don't, but I want to amplify the service to the community, all the community that staff does. And so the stabilization of staff through labor contracts, through hirings, all of those things are what really, really, in my mind, is the biggest win that I would suggest happened last year.
00:50:28.60	Unknown	You know, it's great that you play with your father too.
00:50:30.78	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
00:50:31.09	Unknown	Thank you.
00:50:31.10	Amy Haworth	I read staff.
00:50:32.49	Amy Haworth	This is something you guys get your hands in, right?
00:50:35.35	Amy Haworth	And it's incredibly important.
00:50:37.99	Amy Haworth	This is just up here. We're not really going to refer to it, but I want to get to see you in the
00:50:42.19	Amy Haworth	All right. So all of you.
00:50:44.20	Amy Haworth	also knew that there was going to be a quat amount.
00:50:47.34	Amy Haworth	All right.
00:50:49.02	Amy Haworth	So does anybody out there or not
00:50:50.96	Unknown	know that a plot analysis is totally a plot.
00:50:55.23	Unknown	And,
00:50:55.35	Ian Sobieski	You want to stick it on the wall maybe there?
00:50:55.39	Unknown	Thank you.
00:50:57.11	Unknown	Yeah.
00:50:58.00	Ian Sobieski	Right there so everyone can see it.
00:50:59.45	Unknown	You can't see it.
00:51:00.35	Ian Sobieski	I'll help you out.
00:51:00.99	Unknown	you
00:51:01.26	Unknown	Thank you.
00:51:01.68	Amy Haworth	I'm still open for this. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Okay, so SWAT stands for strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, and threats.
00:51:10.99	Amy Haworth	Understand that strengths and weaknesses are sort of internal, right? So things like if you have a balanced budget, that's a strength because it's internal.
00:51:21.83	Amy Haworth	opportunities are things external.
00:51:24.90	Amy Haworth	you know, and in Brats too, whether it's Brats or P-levels better.
00:51:25.46	Unknown	And
00:51:29.45	Amy Haworth	So again,
00:51:30.86	Amy Haworth	Deep pocket spent.
00:51:32.11	Amy Haworth	hours on this, but I wanted to go around because again, it's a snapshot in time and it's important to do that because like I said, nobody would have thought
00:51:41.28	Amy Haworth	Pandemic with people's bingo cards.
00:51:44.19	Amy Haworth	So let's see if I can
00:51:47.34	Amy Haworth	Do this.
00:51:50.23	Amy Haworth	Okay.
00:51:52.15	Amy Haworth	Um, it's just these things.
00:51:55.00	Amy Haworth	I'll try it on the easel. It's just a little risky one. No offense. Please don't be offended.
00:52:01.15	Amy Haworth	Um,
00:52:02.24	Amy Haworth	So why don't we, I'm going to.
00:52:04.84	Amy Haworth	So, first and foremost.
00:52:07.31	Amy Haworth	and ask you for all four.
00:52:09.77	Amy Haworth	Okay.
00:52:10.66	Amy Haworth	And I'm going to do a very imperfect...
00:52:13.35	Amy Haworth	bridge.
00:52:14.22	Jill Hoffman	Thank you.
00:52:14.92	Amy Haworth	What's that?
00:52:15.73	Jill Hoffman	It's going to be long, but it's good.
00:52:17.51	Amy Haworth	I'm good.
00:52:18.95	Jill Hoffman	Do you want if we because I imagine we probably have many of the same ones. How do you want us to indicate same or just say it again?
00:52:22.29	Unknown	How do you want to?
00:52:24.91	Unknown	I think it's important that we
00:52:26.54	Jill Hoffman	Okay.
00:52:27.03	Amy Haworth	that five people thought was a trip. Okay, great. I'm not gonna put down who said it.
00:52:29.75	Jill Hoffman	Okay, great.
00:52:31.72	Jill Hoffman	Great.
00:52:32.01	Amy Haworth	So that you didn't think so.
00:52:32.06	Jill Hoffman	Thank you.
00:52:38.24	Amy Haworth	Okay, and we're going to keep these, you know,
00:52:44.09	Amy Haworth	One or two were.
00:52:47.79	Ian Sobieski	Yeah. Okay. So I only added ones. Mine's not comprehensive in that I was adding to the previous list. So I'm not sure exactly how that'll work. Cause I, I would, I would validate other people's if we go around, if we go around Robin, but I was going to add, uh,
00:53:02.89	Ian Sobieski	Uh, so in strengths, we have an extremely well-educated community, uh,
00:53:10.89	Ian Sobieski	You said strengths, right?
00:53:13.59	Ian Sobieski	Are you talking about internal? I'm sorry.
00:53:16.64	Ian Sobieski	Internal only, not external, is that? I'm sorry.
00:53:23.36	Amy Haworth	Let's say you didn't have five.
00:53:25.61	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
00:53:25.71	Unknown	don't have
00:53:26.42	Amy Haworth	you
00:53:29.72	Ian Sobieski	Okay. So strengths slash resources is the way I was thinking of it and unique maritime access and possibilities.
00:53:40.64	Ian Sobieski	intrinsic tourist appeal and consequent tax and fee revenue base, or maybe potential.
00:53:50.75	Ian Sobieski	intrinsic tourist appeal and consequent tax and revenue base.
00:53:58.85	Ian Sobieski	high property values and consequent tax base.
00:54:05.60	Ian Sobieski	experienced city manager.
00:54:14.54	Ian Sobieski	Huge hidden asset value owned by the city.
00:54:19.64	Ian Sobieski	with emphasis on huge.
00:54:24.21	Ian Sobieski	Huge.
00:54:27.18	Ian Sobieski	I already said extremely well-educated community. Are we doing threats also in the whole jam? Am I reading my whole list? Okay, threats, aging,
00:54:38.45	Ian Sobieski	threats, aging infrastructure, very aging, maybe emphasis on the very.
00:54:45.16	Ian Sobieski	natural disasters, so earthquake, fire, and flooding.
00:54:50.07	Ian Sobieski	And then the biggest threat to everything, including ourselves, is time.
00:55:02.79	Ian Sobieski	our wink weaknesses.
00:55:05.98	Ian Sobieski	are that as a, we intrinsically have poor scale, meaning numbers of people versus fixed costs. 7,000 people is the size of Sausalito. And yet we have a police chief, a city manager across those 7,000. So we have intrinsic,
00:55:23.26	Ian Sobieski	finance world, you call that intrinsically poor scale for all our services.
00:55:33.13	Ian Sobieski	many absentee property owners, both commercially and residentially.
00:55:41.33	Ian Sobieski	These are weaknesses again.
00:55:43.86	Ian Sobieski	Mistrust.
00:55:48.49	Ian Sobieski	and fear of making mistakes.
00:55:52.28	Ian Sobieski	as a weakness.
00:55:55.30	Ian Sobieski	say vivid fear of making mistakes.
00:56:02.64	Ian Sobieski	And then let's see, I think that was my list. We have enormous revenue potential as an opportunity.
00:56:17.06	Linda Fodge	Thank you.
00:56:19.66	Joan Cox	So I did include the ones that were in our strategic plan that I thought were still valid. Okay, so resident engagement.
00:56:29.24	Joan Cox	Yeah.
00:56:30.66	Joan Cox	staff management team.
00:56:34.79	Joan Cox	Financial management.
00:56:41.86	Joan Cox	tourism and revenue diversity, which the mayor mentioned.
00:56:45.34	Unknown	If that's right, drop it.
00:56:47.68	Joan Cox	Thank you.
00:56:47.77	Joan Cox	I think it's the revenue diversity is a strength. So and he mentioned some of the aspects of that, our property tax, our but tourism is really an aspect of that revenue diversity that other cities do not enjoy.
00:57:03.04	Unknown	Okay.
00:57:06.89	Joan Cox	Council Talent.
00:57:25.74	Joan Cox	All right. Next on my list, I have weaknesses.
00:57:29.30	Kathy Nikitas	Hmm.
00:57:30.61	Joan Cox	This will not be popular. A weakness is council cohesion.
00:57:34.85	Joan Cox	and council relationship with staff.
00:57:43.71	Joan Cox	Emergency Management.
00:57:46.21	Joan Cox	Yes.
00:57:47.64	Unknown	Congrats, Todd.
00:57:50.46	Ian Sobieski	Yes.
00:57:50.76	Unknown	Thank you.
00:57:54.19	Joan Cox	I like readiness better than management actually.
00:57:58.07	Joan Cox	Um, insurance.
00:58:04.04	Joan Cox	I agree with the mayor on absentee property owners.
00:58:12.16	Unknown	Good night.
00:58:12.80	Unknown	Yeah.
00:58:12.97	SPEAKER_22	Thank you.
00:58:12.99	Joan Cox	Yes.
00:58:16.60	Unknown	Thank you.
00:58:17.48	Joan Cox	No.
00:58:19.26	Joan Cox	But there are actually those in this room who
00:58:25.12	Joan Cox	host Airbnb, even though we don't allow it.
00:58:28.55	Joan Cox	So not at this table.
00:58:33.79	Joan Cox	.
00:58:33.96	Unknown	But,
00:58:38.05	Unknown	Thank you.
00:58:38.08	Unknown	Thank you.
00:58:39.19	Unknown	Thank you.
00:58:39.33	Unknown	Yeah.
00:58:39.72	Unknown	Bye.
00:58:40.24	Unknown	Thank you.
00:58:41.49	Unknown	Yeah.
00:58:42.42	Joan Cox	Thank you.
00:58:42.53	Ian Sobieski	Commercial property, absentee commercial landlords also is a big problem, both in the industrial and commercial sector.
00:58:49.40	Joan Cox	A weakness is a single primary corridor, and that really relates to our emergency challenges.
00:58:57.81	Joan Cox	Yes.
00:59:02.55	Joan Cox	our hillsides and our wildfire.
00:59:07.91	Joan Cox	management.
00:59:11.07	Joan Cox	infrastructure needs.
00:59:15.85	Joan Cox	our school system,
00:59:17.59	Unknown	Yeah, thank you. Thank you.
00:59:19.46	Joan Cox	We have influence, but we have no oversight.
00:59:23.42	Unknown	Bye.
00:59:23.83	Unknown	That is not threat. Well, a lot of threat.
00:59:26.82	Joan Cox	It's a weakness. I have it as an opportunity. I have it as a threat.
00:59:31.37	Joan Cox	Yeah.
00:59:32.15	Kathy Nikitas	Thank you.
00:59:32.25	Kathy Nikitas	you
00:59:32.28	Unknown	Thank you.
00:59:32.30	Kathy Nikitas	Bye.
00:59:32.37	Unknown	Yeah.
00:59:32.67	Kathy Nikitas	Thank you.
00:59:34.39	Joan Cox	And then DEI. So I think we've made great strides, but I still consider it to be a weakness.
00:59:41.39	Amy Haworth	And you said that you mean within the city of staff within
00:59:45.55	Joan Cox	I mean, within the community and our neighboring communities.
00:59:51.59	Joan Cox	opportunities.
00:59:53.87	Joan Cox	Climate change, sea level rise.
00:59:58.24	Joan Cox	And that I have as a threat as well. So there's a lot of overlap, I think. The Marin ship blew economy, and I give full credit to Janelle on that.
01:00:07.82	Linda Fodge	and shift to the project.
01:00:10.81	Joan Cox	undergrounding.
01:00:20.39	Joan Cox	alternative service delivery. So the mayor made reference to this, but we have an opportunity for
01:00:26.54	Joan Cox	collaboration.
01:00:28.14	Joan Cox	or
01:00:29.07	Joan Cox	uh,
01:00:29.93	Joan Cox	consolidation.
01:00:31.68	Joan Cox	for example, with our sewer collection system.
01:00:34.30	Unknown	Yes. Can't stand or fell.
01:00:36.47	Joan Cox	No, it's Saucyde Marin City Sanitary District. It's in our strategic plan already to work on consolidation.
01:00:44.91	Joan Cox	opportunities, new infrastructure resources.
01:00:50.38	Unknown	opportunities. Yes.
01:00:51.85	Kathy Nikitas	Thank you.
01:00:52.15	Joan Cox	Thank you.
01:00:52.19	Unknown	Thank you.
01:00:56.64	Amy Haworth	So new infrastructure,
01:00:59.59	Joan Cox	resources, well, for example, we can now line pipes instead of replacing them.
01:01:04.66	Joan Cox	we can run a bunch of things through one system rather than have five things stacked on top of one another.
01:01:14.12	Joan Cox	economic development.
01:01:20.20	Joan Cox	Relationship with Marin County and surrounding regional authorities.
01:01:25.19	Unknown	Thank you.
01:01:26.32	Joan Cox	Yeah.
01:01:29.99	Joan Cox	Babette will like this one. Transportation.
01:01:39.79	Joan Cox	Risk management, of course, that relates to our insurance threat.
01:01:44.08	Unknown	Yeah.
01:01:46.02	Joan Cox	The mayor mentioned this, but I have it as capitalize on real estate portfolio.
01:01:52.31	Joan Cox	and evolving population.
01:01:56.87	Joan Cox	Well, we have a lot of younger residents and families moving into town, and so there's an opportunity to capitalize on that, in my view.
01:02:07.09	Unknown	I'll be...
01:02:09.30	Unknown	President.
01:02:12.22	Joan Cox	population, I said, but yeah.
01:02:14.06	SPEAKER_22	Thank you.
01:02:14.08	Joan Cox	Thank you.
01:02:17.12	Joan Cox	All right. And then threats, you know, a lot of the opportunities or weaknesses and threats all overlap, but I'm just going to go through them. So climate change, sea level rise.
01:02:26.26	Joan Cox	our hillsides and our wildfire challenges. Escalating pension obligations.
01:02:37.89	Joan Cox	inherited financial obligations.
01:02:50.02	Joan Cox	state housing requirements,
01:03:00.22	Joan Cox	Competing visions for the Marin ship.
01:03:03.96	Amy Haworth	That I want to count on the changes.
01:03:06.38	Joan Cox	the community and I don't know about council but perhaps
01:03:13.18	Joan Cox	the school system and family impacts.
01:03:23.01	Joan Cox	decline of tourism.
01:03:26.73	Joan Cox	So, you know, that was a COVID impact that we're still recovering from. Hand in hand with that are San Francisco's struggles. So, yeah, that really adversely impacts us.
01:03:45.00	Joan Cox	Increase in homelessness.
01:03:48.92	Unknown	Thank you.
01:03:48.97	Amy Haworth	And that includes...
01:03:50.69	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
01:03:51.31	Joan Cox	Thank you.
01:03:51.41	Joan Cox	Thanks to you.
01:03:52.43	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
01:03:52.53	Joan Cox	Thank you.
01:03:52.97	Joan Cox	Thank you.
01:03:53.27	Joan Cox	Yes, so throughout California. And, you know, I think a win, unfortunately, that didn't happen last year was that Sausalito is the first community
01:04:05.64	Joan Cox	in California to compassionately close a homeless encampment. And that was a huge win for Mayors Hoffman and Kelman.
01:04:13.51	Joan Cox	and obviously the rest of the council.
01:04:23.58	Joan Cox	Lack of diversity.
01:04:29.22	Joan Cox	Speed and advancement of technology.
01:04:35.46	Joan Cox	Insurance.
01:04:39.16	Joan Cox	and then I had emergencies and disasters. And I apologize that that was so long, but it was really,
01:04:45.18	Joan Cox	a takeoff on what was in our strategic plan
01:04:48.77	Joan Cox	kind of. It was great. Don't apologize.
01:04:51.00	Unknown	I apologize.
01:04:51.42	Unknown	Bye.
01:04:56.89	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
01:04:56.96	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
01:04:59.39	Joan Cox	Well, I feel badly for the other three council members who have to follow that.
01:05:06.22	Unknown	She's...
01:05:06.32	Joan Cox	Thank you.
01:05:06.63	Unknown	Thank you.
01:05:06.73	Joan Cox	Yeah.
01:05:07.32	Unknown	Good.
01:05:07.98	Unknown	you
01:05:08.26	Unknown	Don't worry about it.
01:05:08.97	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
01:05:09.01	Unknown	Thank you.
01:05:09.02	Amy Haworth	Yeah, this is not, I'm not there anymore.
01:05:13.60	Joan Cox	If I was them, I would be squirming. I'd be like, I had that one.
01:05:16.99	Amy Haworth	Where?
01:05:17.22	Joan Cox	We're going to have some of the same ones. Yes, absolutely. I hope we do.
01:05:17.24	Unknown	Thank you.
01:05:17.29	Jill Hoffman	Thank you.
01:05:18.73	Jill Hoffman	Yes.
01:05:22.05	Unknown	Good morning.
01:05:26.08	Jill Hoffman	Thank you.
01:05:27.45	Jill Hoffman	Okay.
01:05:27.97	Jill Hoffman	Thank you.
01:05:28.72	Jill Hoffman	So there will be a lot of overlap, which I think is a good sign. So strengths, I have staff. We have an amazing team at City Hall. Fiscal stability, cat tip to Chad. Measure L dollars. Measure L.
01:05:45.96	Jill Hoffman	community engagements.
01:05:50.82	Jill Hoffman	Work-life balance for staff.
01:05:54.20	Jill Hoffman	improved relationship with the business community.
01:05:57.83	Jill Hoffman	Um, our generally our location that we're a beautiful, well-known community on the waterfront. That's an international destination. Um, strong partnership with the county and our county supervisor.
01:06:14.53	Jill Hoffman	our housing element and general plan, our low emissions action plan and the work that's been
01:06:21.60	Jill Hoffman	Okay.
01:06:23.22	Jill Hoffman	You can put it, we call it the leap. We call it the leap.
01:06:28.94	Jill Hoffman	Yep.
01:06:33.52	Jill Hoffman	And generally the commitment to climate change mitigation within our community, which includes the sea level rise group that Mayors Hoffman and Kelman were responsible for running and had a lot of great recommendations. Also includes the landslide task force recommendations that Mayor Hoffman was responsible for pulling together and the sustainability commission and blue economy group, sea futures, the new labor agreements that helped put us in a strong position for the next three years, a very bright and
01:07:02.46	Jill Hoffman	Whoops, sorry.
01:07:04.36	Jill Hoffman	Sorry. I just thought most of them are already on your list. So that's why I thought you could just start. Okay. Okay. Okay.
01:07:14.79	Jill Hoffman	very bright, engaged city council.
01:07:19.11	Jill Hoffman	real estate value.
01:07:22.37	Jill Hoffman	police chief and police department, generally the renaissance of our police department.
01:07:30.44	Jill Hoffman	Yeah, Renaissance is a great word.
01:07:33.95	Jill Hoffman	I think that's all I had on the, and most of them have already been mentioned. Weaknesses, I also have aging infrastructure.
01:07:44.00	Jill Hoffman	litigation and lawsuits against the city.
01:07:48.36	Jill Hoffman	insurance loss,
01:07:51.53	Jill Hoffman	insurance generally,
01:07:54.28	Jill Hoffman	mudslides and our hillsides, increasing issues with the waterfront and the unhoused, sea level rise,
01:08:08.98	Jill Hoffman	our grant consultant, uh, I think that's also opportunity, but we haven't, hasn't been as fruitful as we would like.
01:08:20.96	Jill Hoffman	Well, there's more we can be doing around grants and getting more money.
01:08:26.81	Jill Hoffman	Yeah.
01:08:28.01	Jill Hoffman	Just grants, just grants generally. We can be getting more money.
01:08:32.20	Jill Hoffman	Yeah, nothing on the person. Just generally, we can be getting more money. Emergency management...
01:08:38.93	Jill Hoffman	It's a weakness. It's also an opportunity. There's overlap on both of them.
01:08:44.69	Jill Hoffman	emergency management, emergency disaster preparedness,
01:08:51.27	Jill Hoffman	Um,
01:08:53.02	Jill Hoffman	DEI and council cohesion are also on the weaknesses list for me. Um,
01:08:59.05	Jill Hoffman	and then opportunities.
01:09:01.36	Jill Hoffman	I also think there's a lot of overlap here.
01:09:03.84	Jill Hoffman	sea level rise and climate change mitigation.
01:09:08.11	Jill Hoffman	smart cities.
01:09:11.55	Jill Hoffman	testing and incubating for new climate programs.
01:09:15.55	Jill Hoffman	see futures incubator for blue economy.
01:09:19.63	Jill Hoffman	Smart Cities Incubator for New Tech, Marin City Relationship Rebuilding,
01:09:25.98	Jill Hoffman	DEI.
01:09:28.88	Jill Hoffman	Center for the Arts.
01:09:31.36	Jill Hoffman	a new downtown with a focus on our residents.
01:09:36.05	Jill Hoffman	uh,
01:09:37.69	Jill Hoffman	Mm-hmm.
01:09:40.09	Jill Hoffman	10 year planning for our finances.
01:09:44.73	Jill Hoffman	Uh-huh.
01:09:49.32	Jill Hoffman	a review of our CIPs,
01:09:52.71	Jill Hoffman	I think it's like evolving population, but I wrote down next generation of impact.
01:09:59.78	Jill Hoffman	Um, also business relationship is an opportunity as well as a strength. Cause I think we have more, we can do there. And I would include the BID on that, uh, DEI focus.
01:10:12.71	Jill Hoffman	the Dorothy Gibson house.
01:10:16.03	Jill Hoffman	And then also new revenue streams from impact fees, which our city manager had on his list.
01:10:24.60	Jill Hoffman	New revenue streams. I think there's a lot generally, but one of the ideas that was mentioned in the city manager SWOT analysis that I think bears re-mentioning is impact fees because we've talked about that quite a bit.
01:10:35.89	Jill Hoffman	and then threats
01:10:40.95	Jill Hoffman	Again, insurance and risk management generally. Again,
01:10:45.48	Jill Hoffman	litigation and legal threats.
01:10:49.56	Jill Hoffman	aging infrastructure.
01:10:52.78	Jill Hoffman	Sea level rise, climate.
01:10:56.63	Jill Hoffman	lack of diversity, lack of technology,
01:11:01.07	Jill Hoffman	Homelessness.
01:11:04.28	Jill Hoffman	natural disasters.
01:11:06.98	Jill Hoffman	lack of disaster preparedness and emergency management.
01:11:12.21	Jill Hoffman	Rising pension costs staff turnover it's an ongoing concern in case that begins again and generally our capital improvements. And then also just that we're an older community old community with older infrastructure, which was also in the city managers list.
01:11:27.85	Unknown	manager.
01:11:33.11	Jill Hoffman	Right, exactly.
01:11:35.65	Unknown	Residents.
01:11:38.18	Unknown	Thank you.
01:11:40.73	Unknown	Thank you.
01:11:41.72	Unknown	Thank you.
01:11:42.24	Unknown	Bless her.
01:11:42.50	Babette McDougall	Thank you.
01:11:43.29	Jill Hoffman	Lesson. Okay. I think that's it. Yeah.
01:11:47.36	Unknown	Thank you.
01:11:47.38	Jill Hoffman	Thank you.
01:11:47.44	Unknown	That's cool.
01:11:48.00	Jill Hoffman	Thank you.
01:11:48.29	Jill Hoffman	them.
01:11:49.64	Unknown	Take a breath. I'm going to sew your hair back. Let it go.
01:11:49.82	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
01:11:50.40	Amy Haworth	your hair back.
01:11:52.18	Unknown	Thank you.
01:11:52.67	Unknown	Thank you.
01:11:53.25	Amy Haworth	Okay.
01:11:55.12	Amy Haworth	Michael, just so you know, it's great that there's some real things that are emerging. And you guys know that.
01:12:02.34	Amy Haworth	I think it's important here, and I think it's important when we start to talk about future agenda items or whatever,
01:12:06.92	Linda Fodge	and I
01:12:08.81	Amy Haworth	that we look at threats especially, right? Because the strength of these are going to allow us to have to be threatened.
01:12:15.64	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
01:12:16.55	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
01:12:21.09	Janelle Bonnicksen	So I'm making it somewhat easy on you.
01:12:23.32	Unknown	Mm-hmm.
01:12:23.34	Janelle Bonnicksen	Mm-hmm.
01:12:23.66	Janelle Bonnicksen	My strengths have all been stated except for one. So let me restate the ones that have been stated. Geographic location, and I think about both that were waterfront and were approximate to GGNRA.
01:12:36.63	Janelle Bonnicksen	Golden Gate National Recreation Area, yeah, that we are seen as a world-class visitor destination,
01:12:43.60	Janelle Bonnicksen	High level of community engagement, committed leadership. These have been said already. I guess I have a couple others. It hasn't been said the historic significance and the historic working waterfront.
01:12:56.27	Janelle Bonnicksen	Center of Strength.
01:12:59.85	Janelle Bonnicksen	We're an age-friendly community.
01:13:05.29	Janelle Bonnicksen	That was actually, I think from last year, but I thought worth repeating. We do have an active grant program, although as Councilman Boston said, we need some improvements.
01:13:14.03	Janelle Bonnicksen	um,
01:13:15.19	Janelle Bonnicksen	Climate activism.
01:13:16.48	Janelle Bonnicksen	Also already said, and then I would add increased transparency on finances.
01:13:22.84	Janelle Bonnicksen	So it's a strength. It's a vast improvement.
01:13:26.63	Janelle Bonnicksen	Keep looking at Chad. Good thing you're here.
01:13:31.85	Janelle Bonnicksen	Okay, wanna go to weaknesses? Yep. It's a little bit long. Loss of insurance pool, what he said, long-term pension debt obligations,
01:13:42.61	Janelle Bonnicksen	Yeah, so it's a little more detailed. Our general obligation bonds, we have a deferred payment and a 15-year amortization schedule that's going to pop those interest rates up substantially. Loss of 44% of our property taxes to Southern Ren Fire.
01:14:01.36	Janelle Bonnicksen	Um, uh, are we have a, uh, fire consolidation where we give away, uh, almost half of our property taxes.
01:14:11.54	Janelle Bonnicksen	We have a fire consolidation. The deal is that we lose a lot of our property tax
01:14:17.97	Janelle Bonnicksen	Yeah. Deferred maintenance.
01:14:21.93	Janelle Bonnicksen	said aging infrastructure.
01:14:25.44	Janelle Bonnicksen	inability to manage city-owned property at market rates,
01:14:31.43	Janelle Bonnicksen	Lack of oversight slash status calibration on legacy leases and agreements. And so for public and council understanding, that's Saucena Yacht Harbor, it's Cass Gidley, MLK, it's Bank of America slash SCA.
01:14:51.19	Janelle Bonnicksen	Let me rephrase it. We clear policy direction on preferred use of city-owned property.
01:14:57.94	Janelle Bonnicksen	Yep. Silos between departments.
01:15:04.58	Janelle Bonnicksen	a failure to connect the dots between significant consulting contracts and scope of work.
01:15:15.68	Janelle Bonnicksen	I mean, sure, high level, right? But to understand that we sign off on these large contracts and they actually all impact one another, and how are we looking at them holistically?
01:15:27.19	Janelle Bonnicksen	um, staff workload.
01:15:31.54	Janelle Bonnicksen	project management and operationalizing some of our visions.
01:15:37.94	Janelle Bonnicksen	project management.
01:15:42.43	Janelle Bonnicksen	Lack of diversity.
01:15:48.23	Janelle Bonnicksen	It's actually in population. We've done a really good job within City Hall, thanks to Chris.
01:15:53.85	Janelle Bonnicksen	high industrial rents
01:15:59.54	Janelle Bonnicksen	And historically, and it's shifting, outsourcing key city hall functions to third-party consultants or third parties.
01:16:12.85	Janelle Bonnicksen	Don't worry, there's opportunities. Sorry, guys, there's a long list. Equally long opportunities.
01:16:17.59	Janelle Bonnicksen	Yeah, that was only to them. Community.
01:16:21.41	Janelle Bonnicksen	Okay, here are the opportunities. This is a big one. I know something I want to get out of today. Defining need versus want.
01:16:30.69	Janelle Bonnicksen	Um,
01:16:34.62	Janelle Bonnicksen	I'll go slower. We have opportunity around waterfront recreation and facilities.
01:16:45.73	Janelle Bonnicksen	Blue Economy, which was mentioned.
01:16:49.54	Janelle Bonnicksen	We have an opportunity around shifting our lens to merge infrastructure upgrades with beautification projects.
01:17:00.66	Janelle Bonnicksen	Sure, infrastructure, we've all said aging infrastructure, so those upgrades can also be beautiful and create a more resilient community.
01:17:09.74	Janelle Bonnicksen	Mm-hmm.
01:17:11.63	Janelle Bonnicksen	um, obtain more grant funds.
01:17:19.19	Janelle Bonnicksen	And I'll just put a bigger bucket of increasing revenue from city controlled either recreation facilities or land or buildings.
01:17:35.00	Unknown	Yeah.
01:17:35.83	Janelle Bonnicksen	Yep.
01:17:41.68	Janelle Bonnicksen	enhance equity and DEI-based policies.
01:17:50.07	Janelle Bonnicksen	Streamline permitting.
01:17:57.19	Janelle Bonnicksen	I want to just put a big bucket of decarbonization, but that is really about our EV chargers or electric water taxis or other efforts that are
01:17:59.86	Linda Fodge	But that is really about it.
01:18:06.32	Janelle Bonnicksen	Okay.
01:18:09.74	Janelle Bonnicksen	outside.
01:18:11.50	Janelle Bonnicksen	Yep.
01:18:13.37	Janelle Bonnicksen	improved roadways and opportunity.
01:18:21.27	Janelle Bonnicksen	Better use of technology. I know we've been working on a Click It Fix It app for a while.
01:18:30.47	Janelle Bonnicksen	Awesome. All for it. Increased communication from City Hall on pending projects.
01:18:39.24	Janelle Bonnicksen	To all of us.
01:18:42.50	Janelle Bonnicksen	and more water-based affordable housing.
01:18:48.54	Janelle Bonnicksen	Not that we can control that, but on my wish list.
01:18:51.32	Amy Haworth	Bye.
01:18:51.43	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
01:18:52.00	Kathy Nikitas	Thank you.
01:18:52.03	Janelle Bonnicksen	Yeah.
01:18:59.53	Janelle Bonnicksen	All right. And then we'll move to the threats.
01:19:06.16	Janelle Bonnicksen	Okay. Climate change.
01:19:13.28	Janelle Bonnicksen	which we could say includes flooding and landslides or separate, but I know my colleagues have already mentioned those. Those things like storm drain overflows.
01:19:31.17	Janelle Bonnicksen	litigation.
01:19:35.22	Janelle Bonnicksen	This is on threats. Loss of institutional knowledge.
01:19:45.29	Janelle Bonnicksen	Thank you.
01:19:45.31	Unknown	Nope.
01:19:46.22	Janelle Bonnicksen	Not even us. Deferred maintenance at City Hall.
01:19:46.25	Unknown	Not even us.
01:19:55.89	Janelle Bonnicksen	Yep.
01:19:58.44	Unknown	I get it.
01:20:05.64	Janelle Bonnicksen	lack of a historical property index and inventory
01:20:14.37	Janelle Bonnicksen	Mm-hmm.
01:20:15.14	Janelle Bonnicksen	deferred bulkhead maintenance,
01:20:26.89	Janelle Bonnicksen	projects over budget.
01:20:31.88	Janelle Bonnicksen	and then rising pension costs.
01:20:40.98	Unknown	Thanks.
01:20:41.65	Unknown	Thank you.
01:20:44.20	Unknown	um,
01:20:47.46	Unknown	Maybe you can't have it.
01:20:52.89	Unknown	So and then.
01:20:56.50	Unknown	Thank you.
01:20:58.31	Unknown	Okay.
01:21:00.52	Jill Teasdale	Okay.
01:21:01.33	Jill Teasdale	So mine are pretty short and in keeping with my initial
01:21:07.19	Jill Teasdale	opening.
01:21:08.50	Jill Teasdale	campaign statement that I made, which is, I look at it from the lens of why we're here and what this body is supposed to do.
01:21:17.36	Jill Teasdale	Here's my strengths. We have an incredibly competent staff right now. In 2021, we really had to
01:21:23.49	Jill Teasdale	focus in.
01:21:24.45	Jill Teasdale	and look at who's performing and who's not and transition to a,
01:21:28.72	Jill Teasdale	a different way of doing business in Sausalito. And I think that we've done that
01:21:32.11	Jill Teasdale	We've got a really great finance director. We have a really great director of CDD.
01:21:36.19	Jill Teasdale	We had a great public works director. He's still here. Thank God. Thank you, Kevin.
01:21:39.65	Jill Teasdale	And our communications director, Abbott, also exceptional, right? So we kept the exceptional people. We added some additional exceptional people, and I think
01:21:47.89	Jill Teasdale	I have a, that's a huge strength right now.
01:21:51.74	Jill Teasdale	We have relatively stable revenue streams, even though we have challenges. And I believe Chad's going to talk to us, our finance director is going to talk to us about
01:21:59.48	Jill Teasdale	I'm not sure.
01:22:00.38	Jill Teasdale	potential deficits in the next few years due to pension debt and some other high risk
01:22:05.93	Jill Teasdale	issues that we have.
01:22:07.23	Jill Teasdale	But we have relatively stable revenue streams. Our issue is how we spend our money and what we can do to mitigate those. So sorry, I just drifted into opportunity.
01:22:16.04	Jill Teasdale	So those are the other internal factor. I think weaknesses, primary weakness for my view is a council inability to set and adhere to priorities for us, for our time and for our staff time. And so once we decide on what are priority projects and what's a priority for the council, then our agendas and our staff time and our council time naturally flow from that.
01:22:38.87	Jill Teasdale	whatever criteria we set, that objective criteria for what we're going to spend our time on, will become much more efficient, and our staff will become much more efficient, I believe. Substantial, and another, so therefore the weakness of substantial staff time and council time,
01:22:54.70	Jill Teasdale	redirected to non-priority projects and objectives.
01:22:57.92	Jill Teasdale	That's a huge weakness, I think.
01:22:59.84	Jill Teasdale	and internal inefficiency that we have right now.
01:23:02.98	Jill Teasdale	Um,
01:23:03.81	Jill Teasdale	failure to analyze fiscal year objectives through that holistic lens.
01:23:07.71	Jill Teasdale	of what's best for the entire community
01:23:10.04	Jill Teasdale	instead of primary interest from a perceived constituency.
01:23:13.60	Jill Teasdale	I think that's one of the weaknesses that we've had on this council and our own agenda setting.
01:23:18.44	Jill Teasdale	failure to adhere to Brown Act requirements and other rules for electeds.
01:23:22.07	Jill Teasdale	Brown Act requirements help us be prepared for meetings. Brown Act requirements help our community understand what we're actually gonna talk about at a meeting.
01:23:30.77	Jill Teasdale	If we have staff reports that aren't holistic, if we have failures in those, then
01:23:35.20	Jill Teasdale	i'm not prepared as a council member and if i'm not prepared then how does
01:23:39.21	Jill Teasdale	How does the...
01:23:40.23	Jill Teasdale	community become prepared so that
01:23:42.06	Jill Teasdale	to me.
01:23:42.84	Jill Teasdale	primary weakness.
01:23:44.12	Jill Teasdale	Now I'm moving on to external factors.
01:23:46.54	Jill Teasdale	The council determination to set a state of fiscal year priorities for council and staff efforts. As I said, I think that's a huge opportunity to increase efficiency.
01:23:55.89	Jill Teasdale	lower wasted staff time and focus in on what are actual priorities.
01:23:59.78	Jill Teasdale	and actually get those things done.
01:24:01.57	Jill Teasdale	to the point of it took us seven years to get a ferry project done. That was our priority.
01:24:07.16	Jill Teasdale	That's one
01:24:08.41	Jill Teasdale	Project.
01:24:10.09	Jill Teasdale	in the context of our whole town.
01:24:12.29	Jill Teasdale	And so...
01:24:13.39	Jill Teasdale	A lot of that time was spent
01:24:15.31	Jill Teasdale	responding to other groups who had ideas about what
01:24:18.77	Jill Teasdale	the ferry landing should look like.
01:24:20.52	Jill Teasdale	and trying to air those.
01:24:22.85	Jill Teasdale	and respond to those in a responsible way.
01:24:26.18	Jill Teasdale	I mean, we had some pretty great
01:24:28.05	Jill Teasdale	I mean, pretty consistent plans back in, I don't know, Kevin, back when we first started, right, seven years ago. This plan looks a lot like some of those plans. But we let that process flow, and I participated in that for two years on a subcommittee. So I'm happy that it's passed, but I'm also...
01:24:46.70	Jill Teasdale	sensitive to criticism.
01:24:48.59	Jill Teasdale	Because we could have just said,
01:24:50.32	Jill Teasdale	We're done.
01:24:51.44	Jill Teasdale	submit it, right? We could have done that six years ago. Opportunities.
01:24:57.38	Jill Teasdale	As I said, once we get that
01:24:59.82	Jill Teasdale	discipline, then the other opportunities will flow from there.
01:25:03.06	Jill Teasdale	in a streamlined and efficient.
01:25:04.77	Jill Teasdale	I completely agree with what Councilmember Kellen just said about defining a need versus a want.
01:25:10.32	Jill Teasdale	And
01:25:11.74	Jill Teasdale	Karen Hollweg, You know and figuring out other ways to achieve those but not using Council time or staff time to a significant degree.
01:25:20.04	Jill Teasdale	Um,
01:25:20.73	Jill Teasdale	threats, I think the fiscal inability to meet the needs for a community as a whole is a big threat.
01:25:25.68	Jill Teasdale	And, you know, we're looking at today's how we spend our money and the 10 year projections, but I completely agree that we should do that. Projections are only based, are only as good as based on the assumptions that you use. Those assumptions obviously are going to change. So it is a every year, you know, you're going to do a new 10 year based on what you just saw or historically.
01:25:45.81	Jill Teasdale	If you have an outlier year, you need to throw that outlier year out. And you need to look at what are the actual trends that we can
01:25:53.18	Jill Teasdale	rely on.
01:25:54.57	Jill Teasdale	our infrastructure.
01:25:56.98	Jill Teasdale	is a huge threat.
01:25:58.72	Jill Teasdale	And the inattention to our infrastructure as a whole is what has led to our loss of insurance, and it's what's led to
01:26:07.04	Jill Teasdale	community threats with
01:26:09.35	Jill Teasdale	you know,
01:26:10.21	Jill Teasdale	People tripping over our lawsuits have increased because of the lack of
01:26:14.48	Jill Teasdale	focus on infrastructure,
01:26:16.28	Jill Teasdale	in these huge numbers that we were briefed on in 2021 with Chris's October 30th
01:26:22.68	Jill Teasdale	assessment that he gave us and he you know I think the number Chris that you gave us was 500 and something million dollars in deferred maintenance in Sausalito and infrastructure needs and you know holistically.
01:26:34.22	Jill Teasdale	How can we look at that?
01:26:36.11	Jill Teasdale	focus on what we can achieve in any given year and
01:26:39.42	Jill Teasdale	prioritizing that above other
01:26:41.87	Jill Teasdale	above other efforts, which I think we have to do. So that's the threat. That's the opportunity. That's a weakness.
01:26:47.86	Jill Teasdale	Yeah.
01:26:48.65	Jill Teasdale	That's a strength, maybe.
01:26:50.27	Jill Teasdale	Um,
01:26:51.27	Jill Teasdale	And then obviously threats from failure to adhere to Brown Act requirements and other rules for electeds. That's, I think, a threat –
01:27:00.06	Jill Teasdale	you know, from all kinds of different angles.
01:27:04.61	Jill Teasdale	Um,
01:27:05.48	Jill Teasdale	Anyway, those are my, I'm not saying that the strengths and weaknesses that haven't been brought out by other council members that I disagree with. But when I look at now, how do we approach that and prioritize that and move forward in the best way possible for the rest of our community?
01:27:18.64	Jill Teasdale	That's mainly what I'm looking at.
01:27:21.69	Amy Haworth	Okay.
01:27:23.52	Amy Haworth	Wow.
01:27:24.95	Amy Haworth	you
01:27:25.22	Amy Haworth	So.
01:27:26.44	Amy Haworth	Let's see. Oh, I know. I'm going to ask staff for theirs. But first, I was you guys.
01:27:33.54	Jill Teasdale	I'm going to the restroom. You guys can keep going with it.
01:27:34.77	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
01:27:34.82	Amy Haworth	and it's that.
01:27:36.43	Amy Haworth	Five minute break. No, five minute break. Go ahead. I'm going to do that too. And then we're going to come back and I want to hear from staff. And I also want to kind of acknowledge staff because, wow, I've never heard that at one of our staff, our council meetings. We have a fabulous staff. So when you come back, I'm going to send you to the student. So let's come back at, well, like 945. Okay.
01:27:37.32	Unknown	Oh, five minutes, Ray. Go ahead.
01:27:55.49	Amy Haworth	Okay.
01:27:55.53	Janelle Bonnicksen	I'm going to make one request to the room. Chris, can we get you to slide up so that we can actually also dialogue with you when we're here?
01:28:00.74	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
01:28:00.79	Unknown	Also,
01:28:02.61	Unknown	I think that's great. Thank you.
01:28:04.77	Janelle Bonnicksen	you
01:28:04.98	Unknown	We're going to fail.
01:28:05.64	Janelle Bonnicksen	Thank you.
01:28:05.67	Unknown	Thank you.
01:28:10.63	Unknown	We are going to say
01:28:11.39	Chad Hess	Yeah, I'd replicate it.
01:28:16.25	Unknown	Thank you.
01:28:17.97	Unknown	No, no.
01:28:19.02	Unknown	Thank you.
01:28:19.10	Unknown	Thank you.
01:28:23.07	Ian Sobieski	Do we know where?
01:28:28.97	Unknown	Thank you.
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01:28:35.30	Unknown	Thank you.
01:28:36.92	Unknown	Thank you.
01:28:39.35	Unknown	Bye-bye.
01:28:41.34	Unknown	and I'm sorry to talk to you about that.
01:28:51.42	Unknown	Thank you.
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01:28:56.70	Unknown	Thank you.
01:28:57.59	Unknown	My friends here at the cemetery.
01:29:00.63	Unknown	Yeah.
01:29:03.70	Unknown	Thank you.
01:29:04.98	Unknown	That's what we did.
01:29:06.22	Scott Thornburg	That's what I'm saying.
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01:29:10.18	Scott Thornburg	Yeah.
01:29:10.74	Scott Thornburg	Right?
01:29:12.98	Scott Thornburg	it
01:29:14.10	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
01:29:14.64	Scott Thornburg	Thank you.
01:29:19.04	Scott Thornburg	Thank you.
01:29:19.09	Amy Haworth	We're going to...
01:29:19.51	Scott Thornburg	Thank you.
01:29:23.70	Scott Thornburg	and I had a lot of excitement
01:29:26.38	Scott Thornburg	Thank you.
01:29:29.28	Scott Thornburg	Council members, mayor, committee members,
01:29:33.74	Unknown	Thank you.
01:29:34.60	Unknown	No, I
01:29:35.87	Amy Haworth	I'm sorry.
01:29:36.03	Amy Haworth	I'm just trying to get ready to be quiet. This is your one minute warning.
01:29:47.17	Ian Sobieski	please.
01:29:47.75	Ian Sobieski	Yes.
01:29:55.74	Unknown	Thank you.
01:29:56.40	Unknown	It comes.
01:29:57.30	Amy Haworth	How well is it?
01:29:57.82	Unknown	Thank you.
01:29:58.46	Amy Haworth	I want to point out that...
01:30:01.09	Amy Haworth	They have pink paper box.
01:30:03.24	Amy Haworth	With Valentine's.
01:30:04.57	Amy Haworth	Yeah.
01:30:04.93	Amy Haworth	Which I appreciate. In fact, in my city, I only wear paint to count these.
01:30:11.61	Amy Haworth	I'm kind of a dare for them to underestimate. All right. Thank you all. Okay.
01:30:14.36	Unknown	Bye.
01:30:14.65	Scott Thornburg	Thank you.
01:30:17.04	Amy Haworth	deep breath. We're going to go to the city manager for his SWOT analysis, which staff is giving him their input. So we're not going to put staff on the spot.
01:30:25.44	Amy Haworth	However, what I would love to do, I was really seriously, it was it was
01:30:30.98	Amy Haworth	gratified I'm sure for the public to hear that you guys have faith in your staff that is huge
01:30:36.38	Amy Haworth	And that is impressive. And so if you're a staff member,
01:30:39.70	Amy Haworth	Could you stand up? And that means you have to get up.
01:30:43.42	Unknown	Thank you.
01:30:45.15	Unknown	Thank you.
01:30:47.67	Unknown	Thank you.
01:30:52.75	Amy Haworth	Really, you know, it is really important. I think staff retention was also mentioned. It's super important. So I wanted to get a shout out. So Mr. City Manager, I'm going to attempt to write down yours.
01:31:03.55	Amy Haworth	Yeah.
01:31:03.72	Unknown	And it makes sense of it all.
01:31:05.42	Unknown	So.
01:31:07.51	Unknown	Thank you.
01:31:08.73	Chris Zapata	Well, thank you. I also want to point out that our police chief is a little ill, but she's on Zoom. So she stood up. Our recreation manager is also taking care of a sick child. So he's stood up. Recreation manager and our city attorney is also on Zoom as well. So I want to point that out. So I always believe in the thought that you don't ask people to do what you don't want to do yourself so a swat analysis is something that i find a very useful tool so appreciative of the council's efforts and real thought going into theirs so here is um the city manager swat that i provided um as you know my uh guidepost and obviously I will miss things. I missed some things. And I thought it was telling when Vice Mayor Cox spoke about San Francisco's impact on the city of Sausalito because that was not in my SWAT. There were others that were not in my SWAT, but I'll read my SWAT so you can see the thought process.
01:31:29.50	Unknown	Yeah.
01:32:09.31	Unknown	Bye.
01:32:09.87	Unknown	Thank you.
01:32:10.27	Unknown	I could break.
01:32:13.38	Chris Zapata	That could be interesting.
01:32:17.92	Chris Zapata	Yeah.
01:32:19.00	Chris Zapata	Yeah.
01:32:19.23	Unknown	Thank you.
01:32:19.69	Chris Zapata	Yeah, and I don't believe you have to write all this down because it's something I can send out and be part of the public record, and it's really some of it's redundant. But here are the strengths. An engaged community. Our city finances are positive. Completed an audit on time with no significant findings. The passage of Measure L. The investment of cash in a higher-ing insecure vehicles for more interest income. The city debt for fire police parks facility is managed and planned, and the park debt is gone in 2030.
01:32:55.01	Chris Zapata	the million dollar grant that was fought for and gotten by a lot of community work and led by then mayor Kelman for planning and resiliency and a vulnerability assessment.
01:33:02.16	Unknown	Thank you.
01:33:06.36	Chris Zapata	The stabilization of staff, which I mentioned, is the big one at all levels, not just at the department level, but at all levels so that we could have people serving Sausalito. And in that staffing, there is work-life balance, and there is also the council's agreement that there be a mid-market, market-based philosophy where we're not the lowest-paying organization in Marin County. We're not the highest-paying organization in Marin County, but we're at the middle. the advancement of the housing element. Obviously, the extensive property portfolio and parking enterprise, which is a strength. Our police and fire buildings are relatively new. There's been catch-up funding designated by prior councils and added to in a 115 trust for pensions and post-employment benefits.
01:33:58.34	Chris Zapata	115 Trust, correct. We are minimizing contract employees during COVID, post-COVID. We got into a system of many, many, many contract employees trying to fill needs. And so now we have gone back more toward in-house employees to generate institutional knowledge and get away from the idea of contract employees to the extent we can. We still need them, but we have them. We have taken that down significantly.
01:34:26.94	Chris Zapata	We have great community partners in Sausalito. I won't try to name one because I'll offend all, but we have great community partners in Sausalito that work on quality of life and safety with us. The park improvements at MLK, Martin Luther King Park, Dunphy, and Southview through the Certificate of Participation, that is mostly done. So that's really a strength for the community to have parks in good condition. the labor contracts have been mentioned and then the compassionate closure of the marineship done. So that's really a strength for the community to have parks in good condition. The labor contracts have been mentioned and then the compassionate closure of the Marinship encampment. Those are all strengths in terms of weakness. Again, old infrastructure and a number of lawsuits, our risk profile.
01:35:08.40	Chris Zapata	Our reliance on other people's money, tourists,
01:35:12.44	Chris Zapata	Rants.
01:35:13.99	Chris Zapata	the maintenance of our waterside facilities and our use of Tideland's fund to fix that. That's a weakness. We have a number of older, older docks and fishing piers and things that are in disrepair and don't present the best space to the public and to the people that come to Sausalito. And we have a Tideland's fund that we haven't, Tideland, Tideland's fund that, you know, we haven't really been intentional about, in the words of our finance director. So we also do not have yet a comprehensive infrastructure and facility analysis which integrates our finances internally.
01:35:52.26	Chris Zapata	and our resiliency efforts. So that 10-year financial forecast is important.
01:36:00.23	Chris Zapata	There is always a rising market in terms of housing, so it's difficult to recruit people like police officers. We have a police negotiation coming up in 18 months, and that's going to be interesting given how difficult it is to recruit people. We have...
01:36:26.67	Chris Zapata	a challenge or weakness with, you know, unhoused. Our normal staffing isn't a system that's set up to be sustainable, to deal with another encampment. We have, again, the public shoreline and disrepair, lack of EV charging stations, and then a current number of unfunded grants that we don't have a yes or no on, and some more work to do with our grant consultant. In terms of opportunities, 10-year financial forecasts to guide our budget resource allocation is an opportunity.
01:37:03.95	Chris Zapata	Yeah.
01:37:08.20	Chris Zapata	In play, it's being worked on. It started, a committee was set up by then-Mayor Blaustein that includes Councilmember Hoffman and Mayor Sobieski, former Mayor Ray Withey and our finance director, to work on a 10-year model. So it's in play, but it's not done, so it's an opportunity.
01:37:24.32	Chris Zapata	looking at our capital improvement program.
01:37:26.81	Chris Zapata	is an opportunity
01:37:29.14	Chris Zapata	Cerule consolidation is an opportunity. What I call targeted undergrounding district formation is an opportunity, not citywide undergrounding. It's for certain areas that have a desire and want to participate financially and go through all the hoops and hurdles with us in PG&E. That's an opportunity. Building off the general plan that exists, the general plan 2020. so building off of that general plan, which, you know, cities do every 15 to 20 years, and they are heavy lifts, and they're necessary. But also within that general plan to work on areas of the community that are broad and diverse and have different opportunities. One is obviously the marineship, and that's been stated. Obviously, downtown and Caledonia, and that's been stated. And then the other one is the Bridgeway area of Dunphy Park is also another opportunity to integrate plans that would, in fact, create an alignment with the general plan that's already been adopted. The marineship is full of potential. The blue economy was mentioned. We need to continue the progress made that we have had in our community and economic development department regarding planning permits for our residents and for businesses and people that want to come to Sausalito. It's been a work in progress, but significant. The backlog that existed has been significantly impacted in a positive way.
01:39:01.30	Chris Zapata	permits and planning and our streamlining and following the recommendations from the Economic Development Advisory Committee about what we do to streamline and get our house in order so that people don't have, you know, a maze of bureaucracy to deal with. So that's being worked on and progress has been made. And also with our code enforcement backlog, progress has been made. So the city council adopted a strategy of compassionate care for homeless and unhoused. And in that same process, they also asked that we become more of a partner with the county and ask the county to become more of a partner with us. And so in that regard, we asked the county for $1.5 million to help with our account. It came from the council. And the county, working with the state and within their own funds, provided a $167,000 grant for this purpose two years ago. They worked with us in the state to provide a half a million dollar grant to the city, which the city has received. And we're currently working with them on a matching grant of $500,000 from the county county and what we'll use that money for is as the main approach to helping the unhoused in our community and providing housing is what's called the dorothy gibson house and so being able to use state and county money to build that project up is a significant opportunity to impact two unhoused persons in our community we need to finish finish Dunphy Park. Phase two of Dunphy Park is still out there to be done. It's an opportunity. We need to reopen the Marinship Park, which has also been closed for a year and a half. It's something that we plan on bringing forward in the next quarter. We're looking at impact fees and new revenue streams to accommodate new growth. When the housing element required by the state of California was completed by the city of Sausalito, it talked about 724 units needing to be built here. And the thought with impact fees is impact fees should be implemented so that people that are new to Sausalito pay for those costs and not the current residents of Sausalito. So that impact fee is an opportunity and that discussion is coming.
01:39:45.59	Scott Thornburg	help.
01:41:13.44	Chris Zapata	Um,
01:41:15.57	Chris Zapata	We have to look at the city council's ask in their agenda, an opportunity to look at our policies on what our reserve level should be. You know, is it six months? Is it a year? Is it three months? You know, that's an important opportunity and conversation that needs to be had, as well as our leases. You know, are our leases all going to be market? I heard that earlier in a conversation about what it is we want to do. Are they going to be a la carte? You know, certain people have certain needs, certain people are certain operators. Some businesses are for profit, some are non-profit, some are a hybrid. And so what's the council's philosophy toward managing those leases? And that's an opportunity. I call it C-click fix, but it's also an opportunity to involve our community in helping us to understand needs in the city by an application. So we've been working on this for a year, a little bit more, and I'm hopeful that this is the quarter that we get that to the finish line. There's a test of a C-Click Fix app, which we called Rock Solid, Kevin. Is that what it's called? Yes.
01:42:20.61	Chris Zapata	rock solid, which we're testing right now. But what that will allow to have happen is visitors, residents, people can get on the application and help us. And the way it's worked in cities that I've been in is typically someone calls says there's a pothole, fix it. But if you have a C-Click fix act, if someone takes a picture and says, I'm helping you, there's a pothole. It's a whole different dynamic, a whole different interaction with the community and others, but it also allows us to track.
01:42:47.64	Chris Zapata	all the things that happen in a community that how many potholes, you know, how many things are related to uneven sidewalks or what buildings need to be, anything that comes up, we can start to build a database and then that can inform decisions and resource allocation. So that's
01:43:07.98	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
01:43:08.35	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
01:43:08.97	Amy Haworth	is you get sort of updates on what's going on, right? Because, you know, sometimes they call me and it's a meeting, there's a platform, and I try to get on it, and I try to, but maybe I didn't immediately email them back. There's a process, there's a process,
01:43:25.48	Chris Zapata	Yeah.
01:43:25.93	Chris Zapata	Yep, yep, yep. Thank you for that commercial. So we're happy to get that moving. It's an opportunity for more community engagement at a fundamental level related to our infrastructure. You know, the continued focus on diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging, that's an opportunity to continue and do more. um i've asked our finance director to start to begin to create a integrated budgeting process with our public. And that's something that really is an opportunity where we ask city residents to work with the city council and city staff to figure out a budget. There are exercises that can be done and have been done in cities I've worked in and are being done around us where you see how difficult it is to build a budget, adopt a budget, because so much of a city's budget is fixed. Your employee costs, your debt service, your pension payments, your utilities. And so what you really have to work with as a city council is maybe 10%, maybe 15% of that budget. So we want the public to see how that is and see if they have an understanding that we have or have a better way to approach things. So Chad is working on a preliminary exercise this year, but we'll be into a full-blown exercise the following budget year. So that's an opportunity. You know, we need to do better for grant requests on infrastructure and climate change needs, and we understand that. We can improve our shoreline through partnerships. We have many partners, government partners, private partners, regional partners, so improving our shoreline that way. And then our quality of life opportunities, and one example was the new, you know, Toast to Sausalito, which was really vibrant, you know, the program to create, you know, activity and selling boats to embrace diversity, Gay by the Bay. All of these things were things that there are more opportunities to build on. And then finally, the one thing that I always preach in cities I come to is, you know, that's not finally. You need to be able to welcome new community members, and we need to be able to speak about how Sausalito is, what Sausalito is about, and that can be welcome packages, working with the Chamber of Commerce, working with businesses, work with everybody to welcome people to Sausalito. That's an opportunity. And then the one that I was saying is finally the other opportunity is this city has what's called Willow Creek. And, you know, you know, creeks and cities are really interesting and to me precious. So Willow Creek is an opportunity, an opportunity to embrace it and work toward figuring out how to make it more integral in the community rather than just the friends of Willow Creek pushing that, but I think it's something that the city could embrace. So all that is opportunities. So threats were mentioned, but I'll give you mine, and it's infrastructure or insurance and risk management.
01:46:27.94	Chris Zapata	It's infrastructure, which is integrated. It's climate change and extreme weather events that create slides and other catastrophes in communities, which is already
01:46:29.07	Scott Thornburg	in the United States.
01:46:39.25	Chris Zapata	experienced. It's making sure that we have revenue that is managed in our property portfolio. You know, having parking lots and buildings and leases is something that if we don't do it right, it can be not good for anybody. So that's a threat. We obviously have done a lot of work on our pensions with the Bartell Group and with this council, and prior councils were aware of this, so they set up the 115 trust, but we know there are pension spikes. It's an unknown. And so making sure that we're monitoring them and, you know, building toward, you know, how we approach them. The city at this time has $3.9 million in its 115 trust and another million or so in its post-employment benefit trust. So total, you know, there's about $5 million that can only be used for those two purposes legally. You cannot use 115 trust money for, you know, paying for a park. You got to pay pension obligations or expenses with that. So that's
01:47:43.29	Chris Zapata	it's $3.9 million in the 115 Trust specifically for pensions. Cybersecurity is a big deal. Cities and, you know, ransoming and approaches are prevalent throughout this time and in this country. You saw what a cybersecurity and a ransom did to the city of Oakland. It's done this to other people. So, you know, we have put together a lot of things in place, but as a small city, trying to figure out how we don't get held up or have, you know, problems with someone else getting into our systems through technology is an ongoing challenge and a threat.
01:48:23.94	Chris Zapata	And then last, you know, the city has really been aggressive in going out and getting funding. And so these funds, which, you know, are other people's money, and the latest example was the Ferry Grant, which was $2.4 million dollars,
01:48:42.10	Chris Zapata	was it seven years ago? And here we are with a headline in the Marin IJ about in the city council unanimously adopted an approach. So, you know, we have other grants that we've received over time that also are going to take some kind of council direction. One of them is obviously the Bridgeway Grant, south of downtown.
01:49:03.92	Chris Zapata	You know, the city council authorized going out to get what I call different scenarios with grant money. But there's $500,000 sitting there that is being looked at by our staff and by the community and by the council as how do we do this and manage it in a way that it doesn't impact public safety. It doesn't impact the business. It doesn't impact the neighborhood. It's resilient. All of those those things so um you know the the idea of that as a threat is because we could get stuck again and so we want to try to make sure that you're aware that we know it's a threat of getting stuck again like you did with the uh ferry grant uh so having some real attention paid to it is what we're doing internally uh director mcgowan is working on an ask to reconfigure that whole ask so that there is some sequencing and no silos. So that is something I hope that the council is mindful of and aware of. But if we turn into a seven-year time frame on that project, that's not good for anybody. The downtown concept, which the city council approved $188,000 for a year and a half ago, has the possibility of becoming a similar kind of argument. Are we going to do this or not? And so staff is sitting here saying, these are things that we go out and we try to do. And then, you know, because there may be concerns or maybe there's a better way to do it, they turn into, you know, really involved situations that, you know, I think aren't best. I think knowing upfront that these are going to be challenges and I believe they will be because many people sit on many sides of these issues, especially as it relates to, you know, Bridgeway and downtown. These are hard discussions that the council is gonna have to have. And the threat being nothing gets done.
01:50:54.81	Chris Zapata	Nothing gets done or it takes longer than you want. And again, I think there's been council direction to look at these. There's funding for one of them. We want to look at them a different way. But at the same time, we truly know that there are a lot of people that need to be heard. And so that process and that transparency, and this is part of that, to tell you all, we see what we've seen. And sitting in these meetings and being on the other side of questions and comments from the public, we're mindful and we're trying to do better. So those are the threats. Those are the weaknesses. Those are the opportunities to come from staff. So I thank you for your indulgence on that and really thank you for your work on it, mayor and council.
01:51:44.01	Amy Haworth	Um, actually in my PowerPoint, let's see.
01:51:49.89	Amy Haworth	If we could go, I believe it's right after
01:51:54.26	Amy Haworth	It's slide number five.
01:51:58.02	Amy Haworth	I think let's see.
01:52:02.34	Amy Haworth	What?
01:52:04.36	Amy Haworth	You don't have it yet. I will make it available to everyone in the world. It's like seven slides. It's not the world's greatest, but you will get it.
01:52:12.90	Amy Haworth	um so yes
01:52:13.58	Scott Thornburg	So yes.
01:52:17.07	Amy Haworth	Yeah. And I think that I'll go back, go back, go back.
01:52:17.46	Janelle Bonnicksen	Yeah.
01:52:22.03	Amy Haworth	Go back.
01:52:22.88	Amy Haworth	Go back.
01:52:24.46	Amy Haworth	Okay, now go forward one. We're going to start here then. It's not slow. Okay, so.
01:52:27.97	Amy Haworth	And I apologize, that's on me, not your city manager.
01:52:30.81	Amy Haworth	And can you speak into the mic since this is being recorded and I know better than that. So thank you.
01:52:32.93	Joan Cox	And it's a good thing.
01:52:37.84	Amy Haworth	So,
01:52:38.76	Amy Haworth	I do want to try to distill down what we did, right? Because I think.
01:52:45.03	Amy Haworth	The threats were very, there was a common, there was so many common things.
01:52:50.70	Amy Haworth	Some of the threats were
01:52:53.59	Amy Haworth	operational, if you were, or, you know, we have to do, you know, we have our pension obligation funds, finances, et cetera. And some of the threats were sort of dynamic related.
01:53:04.07	Amy Haworth	And what I think we need to do is try to look at the things that are common in our threats and keep in mind what your city manager has has said as well.
01:53:15.00	Amy Haworth	And then look at your future agenda items and see how those fit in. And then see if we can distill that down even further. And we're gonna do all that in time for someone to make a flight.
01:53:25.25	Amy Haworth	or at least we're gonna get started. But what I wanted to say first is this 90-10 rule.
01:53:30.32	Amy Haworth	Okay. Okay.
01:53:31.37	Amy Haworth	And 90% of what...
01:53:34.61	Amy Haworth	is happening on a day-to-day basis in your city.
01:53:38.39	Amy Haworth	is staff doing the daily work. It might be the maintenance of the parks. It might be something
01:53:44.96	Amy Haworth	Oh, no.
01:53:46.64	Amy Haworth	You know, it is hiring people, right? I mean, hiring people doesn't just, oh, that happened. That's great. No, it is all of that, right? It is the budget analysis. It is washing windows. It is fixing potholes. That's 90% of what staff spends their time on. And about 10% is left over for council initiatives, new projects, new stuff that goes beyond. Now, some of the stuff that we'll talk about today really fits into the 90% that staff does. It's not like it's additional stuff. I mean, they're telling us there's things they need to be working on.
01:54:22.96	Amy Haworth	It doesn't mean that you guys can't
01:54:25.71	Amy Haworth	Be a little bit flexible and something comes up at the dais and you go, that's a great idea. But then you have to be mindful of what else doesn't get done.
01:54:33.62	Amy Haworth	Right. And
01:54:35.02	Amy Haworth	One of your strengths is your counsel talent.
01:54:38.06	Amy Haworth	and you're in community engagement and it's also
01:54:41.50	Amy Haworth	A challenge.
01:54:42.77	Amy Haworth	Right. Because
01:54:45.06	Amy Haworth	Folks like yourself sit up there and talk and respect each other and say, wow, that's a great idea, Janelle. We really should do that. Right? Let's do that. Okay, let's do that.
01:54:55.66	Amy Haworth	How does it fit in? And so this is...
01:54:59.26	Amy Haworth	There's a lot of work that I do around governance. I don't do a lot of these planning sessions because I tend to insert myself too much to say, no, we really should talk about, so I'm not going to do that today. But I do a lot of work on governance, which is how you get stuff done. It's how you run that meeting. It's how you decide, okay, wait,
01:55:16.08	Amy Haworth	That's not my role here. Okay, so I'm gonna be threading this through everything we do, because I know you guys are smart enough to handle that. Next slide.
01:55:26.21	Amy Haworth	And so another one, I apologize to the community for those of you. Oh, you can see it over there. Yay.
01:55:30.71	Amy Haworth	Um,
01:55:32.20	Amy Haworth	So I do my own PowerPoints, I'm kind of new at it. So apologies for little mistakes or whatever, but
01:55:39.15	Amy Haworth	This is another way of looking at the 90-10 rule, right?
01:55:42.68	Amy Haworth	And
01:55:44.26	Amy Haworth	You know, when the pandemic happened, it actually it pivoted a bit to 80 percent normal stuff, 20 percent.
01:55:51.96	Amy Haworth	pandemic, right? All new councils, I'm just saying, and you're all still recovering from that.
01:55:57.20	Amy Haworth	But this is where it's like every day, public safety, police and fire, library services, wastewater collection.
01:56:04.56	Amy Haworth	permits and licenses, finances and budget. This is the daily stuff. This is not even improvement, right? This is just every day this stuff happens. So the 10% is these new and emerging projects, right?
01:56:16.73	Amy Haworth	Um,
01:56:17.84	Amy Haworth	And...
01:56:18.65	Amy Haworth	Somebody mentioned scale, I think it was the mayor.
01:56:22.08	Amy Haworth	It's true. So Manhattan Beach is bigger where you have 36,000 people. We still think we are small.
01:56:29.00	Amy Haworth	You know, you still have to get the same things done for people in a 7,000 city or resident city
01:56:35.70	Amy Haworth	36,000, 100,000, right? You just have a smaller staff.
01:56:40.17	Amy Haworth	So we have to keep that in mind.
01:56:43.09	Amy Haworth	I think you, Jill, might have mentioned that projects can be great projects, but we also have to, you know, prioritize them in the list.
01:56:52.69	Amy Haworth	So let's see what I said I was going to do next.
01:56:55.17	Amy Haworth	Next slide.
01:56:57.89	Amy Haworth	I was going to take a break. We did that. Let's keep going.
01:57:01.94	Amy Haworth	Okay.
01:57:02.75	Amy Haworth	Um,
01:57:03.44	Amy Haworth	We're going to
01:57:05.70	Amy Haworth	I just want you to...
01:57:07.93	Amy Haworth	These are overarching goals from the plan that was done in 2019 and it's supposed to carry through to 2026.
01:57:16.65	Amy Haworth	I think that
01:57:19.15	Amy Haworth	These aren't in order of, I don't think they're an order of importance. They're in order of where they appeared in the plan.
01:57:25.97	Amy Haworth	But I want you to, as a council, to take a look at these and see if there's anything on here
01:57:31.96	Amy Haworth	that doesn't jive with what you guys just talked about. And if there is, I think,
01:57:38.88	Amy Haworth	Let's figure out if what you talked about should be lowered on the priority or if that goal can be kind of
01:57:46.10	Amy Haworth	Thought about differently. I see Mr. Mayer and Janelle.
01:57:50.72	Ian Sobieski	Yeah, so I would just say
01:57:53.39	Ian Sobieski	that it's up there, but with their, I believe there's a clear consensus. And so I'm putting it to my colleagues around infrastructure,
01:58:02.28	Ian Sobieski	that we've talked about deferred infrastructure. We've talked about getting a grip on our infrastructure with our-
01:58:06.42	Amy Haworth	Well, that's one of your goals up there.
01:58:07.50	Ian Sobieski	Right? But it's, let's see, where is it said? It's continually an improve and maintain infrastructure.
01:58:14.82	Ian Sobieski	It's there, but I kind of feel like it's a matter of emphasis more than whether it's there or not.
01:58:20.39	Ian Sobieski	It's a big number and it's going to take a lot of
01:58:23.34	Amy Haworth	Okay.
01:58:24.20	Ian Sobieski	assessment and talk. It's about prioritizing around the
01:58:26.68	Amy Haworth	A hundred percent. And I want to get to that as well, but it is up there.
01:58:28.30	Ian Sobieski	to that.
01:58:30.67	Ian Sobieski	Fair enough.
01:58:31.34	Amy Haworth	OK, I think Janelle had something in
01:58:34.35	Amy Haworth	Melissa, do you mind first names? I just was getting tripped up. Okay, great.
01:58:35.44	Sharna Brockett	Thank you.
01:58:35.51	Janelle Bonnicksen	She might-
01:58:37.13	Janelle Bonnicksen	I don't mind it.
01:58:38.75	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
01:58:38.77	Janelle Bonnicksen	So I guess what's missing for me here is I think we need some help on how we make decisions. And the example I'll use, and the city manager mentioned it, is when we were discussing labor, Chris suggested to us that we adopt a philosophy of, how did you describe it, Chris, of our payment for labor?
01:58:58.21	Chris Zapata	Market, market, or market.
01:58:59.74	Janelle Bonnicksen	Right. So he urged us to say, are we a council that believes in this? Right.
01:59:04.28	Janelle Bonnicksen	And that, I think, at least for me, helped me get to a certain place on that vote and that decision making.
01:59:10.27	Janelle Bonnicksen	We had a really big public participation on Tuesday around the ferry. We have another one that I'm sure is about to come up around our art center. That's a city owned property that has debt service on it, but it also brings a unique addition to the downtown. I feel like we need some cohesion around
01:59:32.45	Janelle Bonnicksen	our philosophy towards city owned property, our philosophy towards planning, our philosophy towards like something that's a more of a, the North Star. The other example I'll give you in addition to SCA, which is also known as the Bank of America building, is we have this grant that Chris mentioned for Bridgeway in the south part of town to do something around a median. That area is also starting to experience flooding.
01:59:57.73	Janelle Bonnicksen	Do we apply a resilience lens in our planning before we do anything within 50 feet of the waterfront? I'm being a little specific, but I'm trying to give these examples because
02:00:07.44	Janelle Bonnicksen	What's going to happen is we're going to have at least those two items and many more come to us. But if we don't have sort of a policy about how we deliver those services, then we're just going to have these battles that we have traditionally in Sausalito. And I'm wondering if there's a way to...
02:00:23.38	Janelle Bonnicksen	to focus on thematically.
02:00:25.92	Janelle Bonnicksen	Our philosophy around nonprofits and city-owned land is X. Our philosophy around new planning in 50 feet of the waterfront is Y.
02:00:35.98	Janelle Bonnicksen	That would help me find a North Star and some,
02:00:40.03	Amy Haworth	a thread for decision-making.
02:00:41.28	Janelle Bonnicksen	decision.
02:00:41.70	Amy Haworth	making. All right, let me hear other comments. And then I do have some ideas on that.
02:00:45.80	Jill Hoffman	Thank you.
02:00:46.75	Jill Hoffman	I appreciate those comments and I think that that's spot on. I just, in terms of the goals, I think we all just touched on disaster preparedness and emergency management, and that's not directly addressed up there. And I want to figure out a way to pull that together.
02:00:59.10	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:01:01.87	Amy Haworth	Yeah, and I would say, I'm sorry,
02:01:04.45	Joan Cox	Joan.
02:01:07.30	Joan Cox	And you mentioned it, and some of our weaknesses and strengths made reference to it. I don't know how to frame it, but I might call it governance. So the manner in which we work together.
02:01:20.66	Amy Haworth	Yeah.
02:01:20.68	Joan Cox	you
02:01:21.02	Joan Cox	with ourselves and with the community.
02:01:23.47	Amy Haworth	Yeah.
02:01:23.82	Joan Cox	to accomplish our goals.
02:01:25.85	Amy Haworth	Yeah.
02:01:27.03	Amy Haworth	if I may, and you can tell me I'm wrong. Um,
02:01:31.23	Amy Haworth	I...
02:01:32.24	Amy Haworth	good good bodies, if you will, whether it's a school district, special districts, city council,
02:01:38.62	Amy Haworth	do focus on it a lot. And they, it's called, you know, whether you call it council development, council education,
02:01:47.18	Amy Haworth	Especially in this day and age, there's a lot of folks who are new. Now you have some experienced people and that's really helpful.
02:01:54.92	Amy Haworth	And oh, yeah, municipal lawyer.
02:01:59.21	Amy Haworth	So I'm just saying, I mean, you're a lawyer, I'm getting in your lawyer, I get it. But the municipal is complete. It's such a different beast. I'm just saying, okay, sorry. I didn't mean, I'm not choosing a favorite. I'm just pointing it out. But here's the thing. I think that's outside the scope of today and I'm not sure it's a goal. Like, I don't know if it's a goal like in your strat plan to debt, you know,
02:02:20.22	Amy Haworth	commit to good governance, it might be a value, it might be a protocol, it might be something, if you guys are committed to that, that's a different kind of
02:02:28.44	Amy Haworth	I think you do that yearly. You know, I think you do. Laws change, right?
02:02:33.26	Amy Haworth	things change and it
02:02:35.69	Amy Haworth	What you do, what they do is so hard. It's not just that they're busy, but they're making all their decisions in public.
02:02:42.44	Amy Haworth	They're having all their discussions in public.
02:02:45.33	Amy Haworth	Their friends, I know it's their job, but as humans, it's super hard. You guys have the luxury of, they walk in a grocery store and somebody starts talking to them about the Meridian or how come you were so stupid and you interrupted Janelle and she was,
02:03:02.35	Amy Haworth	And it's just human nature. Sometimes we get defensive, right? You know, even the best of us. It's really hard. And so it's sort of like, you know, counseling, if you will, but it's also just tips and trades and tricks. And it's really important to do. So I think it's important for all of you.
02:03:23.03	Amy Haworth	To me, it doesn't feel like a strat plan goal.
02:03:26.10	Joan Cox	Yeah.
02:03:26.57	Joan Cox	I understand, but you know, Jill mentioned Brown Act, for example. We get criticism from the community regarding the manner in which we deliberate and debate on various items on the diet. Okay.
02:03:26.92	Amy Haworth	Bye.
02:03:38.65	Amy Haworth	Okay.
02:03:39.06	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:03:39.12	Joan Cox	And so I really do
02:03:41.74	Joan Cox	I'm not sure.
02:03:42.36	Joan Cox	personally perceive it as a goal to improve
02:03:47.75	Joan Cox	Um,
02:03:49.03	Joan Cox	the manner in which we govern, whether it, again, be
02:03:52.59	Joan Cox	adhering to the Brown Act.
02:03:55.75	Joan Cox	not disclosing something that happened in closed session inadvertently, not announcing how we're going to vote on something in advance of the vote.
02:03:58.13	Amy Haworth	Yeah.
02:04:03.10	Joan Cox	So just some basic tools I think would be helpful to us. So for me, it really is a goal, but I do agree with you. It's also a value.
02:04:13.25	Amy Haworth	Okay.
02:04:13.40	Joan Cox	Thank you.
02:04:13.48	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:04:14.26	Amy Haworth	Did somebody else have their hand up before? OK.
02:04:18.56	Amy Haworth	If I were sitting where you're sitting,
02:04:20.65	Amy Haworth	I do think what Melissa said is something to really consider because six, seven or 20, 20, 2019, when you got when some of you did this.
02:04:31.10	Amy Haworth	While you put climate resilience or climate change resiliency, you must have did with infrastructure, right?
02:04:39.03	Amy Haworth	And everything has changed. The intensity of the climate impacts, right, and the climate change, it's so much.
02:04:45.48	Amy Haworth	Every year it's just more intense. So if I were you, I would consider adding that or in some way as a goal, because a lot of the things that we talked about, you guys are really vulnerable as a low-lying coastal community with your hills and then earthquakes that we can't determine and forest fires that we never thought. So
02:05:01.93	Amy Haworth	That is
02:05:02.98	Amy Haworth	I think this is the time and I
02:05:06.25	Amy Haworth	Apologize. I just said not to, but.
02:05:09.68	Amy Haworth	It.
02:05:11.14	Amy Haworth	It's the kind of thing that you would talk about. Yes, we agree that could be a goal.
02:05:14.59	Amy Haworth	And then you don't have to like change your strat plan right now. But everything we do when we start prioritizing some of these things,
02:05:21.22	Amy Haworth	will play into that and it may be later at a councilman you would adopt it as an additional
02:05:26.13	Amy Haworth	Strat plan goal. Does that make sense? We're not ripping it apart.
02:05:29.39	Amy Haworth	Joe.
02:05:31.06	Jill Teasdale	I think.
02:05:32.44	Jill Teasdale	I think it would be helpful for us and
02:05:36.51	Jill Teasdale	staff, community, everybody.
02:05:38.09	Jill Teasdale	If...
02:05:38.92	Jill Teasdale	to,
02:05:39.75	Jill Teasdale	just to build on something Councilmember Kelman said.
02:05:43.00	Jill Teasdale	was if we could get to the point where we agree on some objective criteria for what is a priority.
02:05:49.87	Jill Teasdale	Right. And if it doesn't meet that objective criteria, like maybe three things.
02:05:53.90	Jill Teasdale	Our priorities for 2024 are
02:05:56.49	Jill Teasdale	One, two, and three. And believe me, three's plenty.
02:05:59.96	Jill Teasdale	because of the limited time that we have for council time and staff time.
02:06:05.09	Jill Teasdale	And if it doesn't fit within those three categories, whatever the objective criteria is, or collectively,
02:06:11.07	Jill Teasdale	then
02:06:11.98	Jill Teasdale	then it might be a worthy project, but, and council members and the public, everybody's, and believe me, we all do this, where
02:06:21.24	Jill Teasdale	We feel strongly about our project, but we don't necessarily take up
02:06:24.97	Jill Teasdale	Council time or staff time, we get it off the ground and running.
02:06:28.13	Jill Teasdale	outside of the staff time and then present maybe a completed project or maybe a close to completed project.
02:06:33.31	Jill Teasdale	to that's already
02:06:35.42	Jill Teasdale	mostly baked out, right, without using staff time,
02:06:38.39	Jill Teasdale	without using counsel time.
02:06:40.70	Jill Teasdale	I think that would be make it.
02:06:42.19	Jill Teasdale	I don't know if we can, but
02:06:43.84	Jill Teasdale	That would make it really clear and easy, I think, for us to decide what's on an agenda and what isn't, what merits our time and what doesn't.
02:06:50.32	Amy Haworth	Yeah.
02:06:51.35	Amy Haworth	And I did mean to
02:06:54.17	Amy Haworth	address what Janelle said because
02:06:56.97	Amy Haworth	Again,
02:06:58.30	Amy Haworth	So criteria to me is a little bit different than priorities or criteria or goals, and both are important, right? So like if you had the three,
02:07:05.47	Amy Haworth	If our goals are we don't want people forced out of their homes because of the climate or whatever,
02:07:11.35	Amy Haworth	But I think a criteria for me
02:07:14.47	Amy Haworth	Is well, are you looking at this through a financial lens? Are you looking through this as a climate change lens, a DEIC lens?
02:07:20.36	Scott Thornburg	lens.
02:07:21.40	Amy Haworth	And the problem with agreeing on those is that
02:07:26.68	Amy Haworth	not everyone's going to agree. Like for some of you, your priority is going to be, no, this is about financial stability. Now they often overlap, right?
02:07:35.80	Amy Haworth	But maybe you want to come up with a list of five lenses
02:07:39.61	Amy Haworth	Just and it's not something you vote on and you agree on and you have to hold each other to, but maybe it would be valuable because that was one of my slides earlier on that I skipped over.
02:07:49.08	Amy Haworth	Um,
02:07:50.04	Amy Haworth	Sorry, I just left to laugh at myself, but what is the lens, right? What is the lens?
02:07:55.34	Amy Haworth	And so
02:07:56.67	Amy Haworth	If you and it doesn't have to be mutually exclusive.
02:07:59.94	Amy Haworth	Right. But
02:08:01.41	Amy Haworth	Sometimes, and it's helpful to understand, right?
02:08:06.10	Amy Haworth	I think that will really play into how you prioritize the goals for this year. Yes, Mr. Mayor.
02:08:11.10	Ian Sobieski	I also just have a question for you and my colleagues and just everyone to think about, which is how do you strike the balance from a governance point of view?
02:08:19.37	Ian Sobieski	About low-hanging, easy, small things that make a big difference. My colleague, Jill, was like, where's the half and half? Small thing makes a big difference. I'd like half and half my coffee, too. Kieran Culligan started the meeting by holding up a donut and saying, why are we spending money on donuts? Small thing makes a big difference, easy to do. When I think we have a sculpture that means a lot to the city, the Sausalito Sea Lion. It's a small thing. Maybe. But it's taking staff time. It might take interaction with another mutual agency. It might require city council action. Certainly doesn't affect our resiliency or our financial stability. But it's kind of a big thing.
02:08:46.84	Amy Haworth	Maybe.
02:08:59.24	Unknown	No, but...
02:09:01.64	Ian Sobieski	So we have a lot of little things that I think culturally we could either consider and dispatch quickly because they're low hanging fruit. But they're actually not in the admittedly, none of them are in the top essential items. And yet we want to take care of them because man doesn't humans don't live by bread alone. Right. You you you do have.
02:09:21.33	Ian Sobieski	Other things.
02:09:21.37	Amy Haworth	You've got to have the bread in order to have the statute.
02:09:23.53	Ian Sobieski	So you got to take care of those things. So that's the question.
02:09:24.66	Amy Haworth	So that's the question. I would say, and I'd be interested in your colleagues' comments, but
02:09:30.14	Amy Haworth	I would say the how, or is you, for a council member to say this is easy for staff to do,
02:09:37.16	Amy Haworth	is
02:09:38.12	Amy Haworth	you may not understand. It does sound easy.
02:09:42.95	Amy Haworth	Right.
02:09:43.84	Amy Haworth	But it may not be. You've got a coastal commission that oversees things, and that causes interaction.
02:09:53.78	Amy Haworth	have to you trust your city manager and his fabulous staff
02:09:58.04	Amy Haworth	to say how it gets done.
02:10:00.36	Amy Haworth	And so
02:10:01.36	Amy Haworth	And yeah, you don't want to just be the folks up there that are just
02:10:06.59	Amy Haworth	Money, money, money.
02:10:08.04	Amy Haworth	check, you know, climate, climate, climate, check.
02:10:11.00	Amy Haworth	But-
02:10:12.33	Amy Haworth	And also a lot of these projects probably have advocacy groups or tied to them.
02:10:18.17	Amy Haworth	which then
02:10:19.72	Amy Haworth	which is great, right? And a lot of times community driven projects, that's the only way to get them done. And that's great, but that is also what takes so much time.
02:10:29.34	Amy Haworth	And
02:10:30.42	Amy Haworth	PB Sarah Silver, Because you need to listen to that public staff needs to staff that Commission, and it is government work is really.
02:10:40.95	Amy Haworth	deliberate, methodical, and actually for a reason.
02:10:43.60	Amy Haworth	Right. Like I was, I was driving by, what is it that maybe this is a bad example, but when I was in San Francisco, I drove by the Salesforce building. Is that the one that's sort of having some problems?
02:10:53.28	Unknown	Thank you.
02:10:53.86	Amy Haworth	See, I knew I'd get it wrong, but
02:10:56.34	Amy Haworth	But that's it, you, and I don't know that this is the reason you're having problems, but I was thinking about it because when we think of innovation and we think of especially Silicon Valley
02:11:05.87	Amy Haworth	which is probably a strength for your area.
02:11:09.13	Amy Haworth	We think of, oh, you know, there has to be innovative ways to do things. And, you know, why are all these permits and all these things? What's this process? And what's this? Because government's job is, at the end of the day, to protect people.
02:11:20.66	Amy Haworth	government's job is not to make profits, although you don't also want to be, you know, not financially stable.
02:11:30.55	Amy Haworth	You know, you have to be really methodical and slow and plotting, in my opinion. And that's that's just me. So I think that you should have some fun things that you get done because there should be joy. And there's a lot of it's so beautiful. Anyway, you were going to say something.
02:11:44.64	Joan Cox	I just want my opinion. Yes. I just wanted to add on to what the mayor said.
02:11:48.80	Joan Cox	Interestingly, the Sausalito Sea Lion could fit under Strengthen Our Community Identity, which is one of our goals.
02:11:54.90	Scott Thornburg	which is one of our...
02:11:56.95	Joan Cox	Also interestingly, a lot of the work that has been done for the Sausalito Sea Lion
02:12:02.22	Joan Cox	demonstrates one of our greatest strengths, which is our community involvement. So our mayor, former mayor, swam back and forth to Alcatraz to raise money.
02:12:10.79	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:12:12.55	Amy Haworth	Which one? Oh yeah.
02:12:20.02	Joan Cox	to restore the sea lion and has spearheaded
02:12:24.58	Joan Cox	fundraising efforts to restore the sea lions.
02:12:28.26	Joan Cox	When there's something that's important to each of us, we often engage the community and volunteer our time beyond the time we spend on the dais.
02:12:34.87	Amy Haworth	Right.
02:12:37.77	Joan Cox	Thank you.
02:12:37.93	Joan Cox	to advance things of that nature. And so I think we are mindful and respectful of staffing and
02:12:44.69	Joan Cox	management constraints. And so when we do
02:12:49.13	Joan Cox	advocate for special projects, if you will. We often
02:12:53.25	Joan Cox	invest more of our own time.
02:12:54.90	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:12:55.21	Amy Haworth	And Jill mentioned that too, right? Like it's all this time outside and that's great. And so I'm not trying to say you can't do that, right?
02:13:03.00	Amy Haworth	But I am trying to say, what do you want staff to focus on? What this is, is what should staff focus their time on?
02:13:09.87	Amy Haworth	Yes.
02:13:10.09	Janelle Bonnicksen	I'll just note that the mayor, when he articulated this example, said, well, it's not infrastructure, but it also doesn't cost the city any money.
02:13:17.52	Janelle Bonnicksen	That thereby actually creating a bucket of criteria for vetting a particular project. And Chris, you do this often as well. This is under $30,000. That's my purview, right?
02:13:26.78	Janelle Bonnicksen	And so when you helped us with Willow Creek and put up a sign, right? To say that there's the creek, it didn't cost, I mean, it was less than this 30,000. So I still think it goes back to having some objective criteria to help us, at least as a conversation guardrails for us, because we know we have some harder things coming up. What's our shared philosophy? And if we can create some objective, now we're gonna have outliers for sure, but at least as a starting point for dialogue.
02:13:55.13	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:13:55.18	Janelle Bonnicksen	Thank you.
02:13:55.20	Amy Haworth	you
02:13:56.01	Janelle Bonnicksen	Thank you.
02:13:56.02	Amy Haworth	Okay.
02:13:57.97	Amy Haworth	Yeah, you guys wanna engage in that? Yeah.
02:14:01.64	Jill Teasdale	Yeah.
02:14:03.11	Amy Haworth	So I think it's the...
02:14:06.88	Jill Teasdale	I think it's interesting that going back to the use of staff time, right? And we really have no concept of,
02:14:14.72	Jill Teasdale	of how many hours
02:14:16.73	Jill Teasdale	A staff has to do their main job.
02:14:18.92	Jill Teasdale	Right?
02:14:19.51	Jill Teasdale	all their list of projects
02:14:21.27	Jill Teasdale	And then when we come up with a special project,
02:14:23.95	Jill Teasdale	How much of that
02:14:25.62	Jill Teasdale	that, you know, to the point of Amy's point,
02:14:28.10	Jill Teasdale	how much that's actually gonna take away from regular staff time. So I think it might be helpful when we first engage with the city manager about how much staff time is this sea lion gonna take? How much time did the sign take?
02:14:42.80	Jill Teasdale	You know,
02:14:43.81	Jill Teasdale	you may be surprised at how much time it actually takes.
02:14:48.39	Jill Teasdale	We also have, you know, so if you say, I only have 40 hours in the week.
02:14:52.49	Jill Teasdale	or
02:14:53.30	Jill Teasdale	I mean, a really great example is the ferry landing, right? At one point, Kevin said 70% of his time was being spent on that one project. I got a thumbs up from Kevin.
02:15:00.39	Jill Teasdale	That's our public works director. That's really expensive time.
02:15:03.59	Jill Teasdale	Every hour that he spends on some other project is an hour he's not spending on Edwards Avenue.
02:15:08.47	Jill Teasdale	or he's also our city engineer.
02:15:11.03	Jill Teasdale	So he's not spending time on
02:15:13.41	Jill Teasdale	our landslide, you know, criteria, our priority project that we submitted back in our priority list in 2019, right?
02:15:25.66	Jill Teasdale	I mean, the discipline of ourselves as a council saying,
02:15:30.17	Jill Teasdale	I would rather the staff work on these
02:15:33.34	Jill Teasdale	bigger.
02:15:34.15	Jill Teasdale	issues for which they're well trained and well educated as opposed to
02:15:38.99	Jill Teasdale	inserting a seal or not saying that that's not a bad, not, I'm not denigrating that. Sea lion. Sea lion. Right. God, I always get that wrong.
02:15:43.08	Unknown	Sea lion.
02:15:45.44	Jill Teasdale	A sea lion, right? But here's the point. The point is,
02:15:48.83	Jill Teasdale	We have really engaged community. We have people in our community who have contacts at the Coastal Commission, or not the Coastal Commission, but BCDC. We have contacts. We haven't enabled them to do that. Right.
02:16:02.47	Jill Teasdale	the discipline of this council should shift to if i have a small
02:16:06.92	Jill Teasdale	project.
02:16:07.73	Jill Teasdale	right, that can be easily achieved.
02:16:10.60	Jill Teasdale	Staff time is not
02:16:12.41	Jill Teasdale	Unending.
02:16:13.49	Jill Teasdale	you're taking the staff away from the other very important work that they're not getting done and so
02:16:18.82	Jill Teasdale	you know, an assessment from our city manager when we as a council engage and say, I think, you know, city manager during our weekly calls, which are
02:16:27.24	Jill Teasdale	Robust conversations, if you're with me, Chris, and I thank you for your patience.
02:16:31.24	Amy Haworth	for health and safety.
02:16:33.57	Jill Teasdale	is, you know, a sense of, that's a great project. I'm not saying that's not a great project. That's going to take probably 20 hours of staff time. That's half a week.
02:16:41.70	Jill Teasdale	away from
02:16:42.93	Jill Teasdale	other priorities that that staff should be working on. So that I think would be helpful and helpful with the council to be disciplined. And then we know to reach back to our other
02:16:52.37	Jill Teasdale	our other groups in town, right? So the Sea Lion Sausalio Foundation, right? Those guys are engaged, man. I'm getting weekly emails from those guys.
02:16:59.39	Jill Teasdale	Those guys have been around for 100 years, some of them.
02:17:01.95	Jill Teasdale	And, um,
02:17:03.54	Jill Teasdale	You know, honestly, but they have contacts everywhere. And if you empower them and say, great, can you help this with this? Whatever.
02:17:04.33	Unknown	Honestly,
02:17:08.53	Unknown	No.
02:17:10.42	Jill Teasdale	So anyway, that's a long response, but that I think
02:17:11.17	Unknown	Thank you.
02:17:11.20	Unknown	Anyway, that's a long time.
02:17:13.76	Jill Teasdale	goes back to
02:17:15.08	Jill Teasdale	What's the criteria for deciding what's a priority?
02:17:18.27	Jill Teasdale	and do you fall into these three criteria?
02:17:21.66	Jill Teasdale	Great project. Let's figure out a different way to do it other than using our very expensive staff time.
02:17:26.74	Amy Haworth	Okay, great. And before Joan, and thank you, and I hope people didn't think I was bagging on the sea lion project. I'm just, but,
02:17:35.80	Amy Haworth	So,
02:17:37.90	Amy Haworth	I hear some criteria bubbling up and staff time is one of them. Um,
02:17:43.18	Amy Haworth	I also don't want to, so the sea lion project. So if you're going to
02:17:47.40	Amy Haworth	put a statue, a sculpture,
02:17:50.22	Amy Haworth	There is staff time involved because it is engineering. It is permits. There's stuff. There is stuff that happens. It's not impossible. It's not hard. I see everyone loves the sea line. That's happening. I can tell. But anyway, Joan.
02:18:05.47	Joan Cox	Chris hates it when I say this, but we have a 30-year experienced city manager.
02:18:09.98	Joan Cox	And I do not consider it my role.
02:18:10.15	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:18:13.42	Joan Cox	to manage how Chris manages the staff. That's right. So I absolutely agree that staff time should be a lens perhaps and a factor, but it's not up to me to tell Chris how much staff time should be allocated to any or whether any. So he has a relationship himself with our community, with the Marin IJ, with our regional leaders. He's the chair of the city managers group. Wow. He's a member of the board of the Chamber of Commerce. So he has his finger on the pulse, and I do not want to –
02:18:55.59	Joan Cox	deprive him of his judgment in...
02:19:00.75	Amy Haworth	his allocation.
02:19:01.58	Joan Cox	in allocating scarce resources.
02:19:04.75	Amy Haworth	I hope that I didn't communicate because I don't think, I think staff,
02:19:09.31	Amy Haworth	Microphone, sorry. I just get a little...
02:19:11.30	Amy Haworth	I hope I didn't miscommunicate. I absolutely agree with you. Um,
02:19:15.01	Amy Haworth	But I think staff time may be a criteria. It's not that you're going to direct staff and say this should only take 20.
02:19:23.53	Amy Haworth	hours or whatever.
02:19:24.88	Amy Haworth	But
02:19:25.83	Amy Haworth	That is so something and allow me indulge this indulgence. So at our city council, at the end of every meeting, there's a future agenda bullet.
02:19:35.01	Amy Haworth	And so if I want to put on the sea lion statue,
02:19:38.01	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:19:38.10	Amy Haworth	I say, I'd like to bring this forward to another meeting, and I need to get one other person to agree to bring it forward.
02:19:46.20	Amy Haworth	Then at the next meeting or two meetings, staff will say, well, we can come back to you in two meetings.
02:19:51.82	Amy Haworth	They give us a very, very, very, very, very high level report.
02:19:55.83	Amy Haworth	Just in thinking about this, these are the agencies that would be involved. These are the staff members that would be involved.
02:20:02.70	Amy Haworth	And it's a...
02:20:04.93	Amy Haworth	a short, medium, long-term project, or a little bit of a rough, rough, rough, sorry Bowie, estimate of time.
02:20:13.21	Amy Haworth	Right. So then then we need three more. Then we need three votes to bring it forward for a full report.
02:20:18.88	Amy Haworth	So then you kind of, and I'm not saying you do that, it's kind of cumbersome to me, but it also allows staff
02:20:25.01	Amy Haworth	And you may say, I don't care if it's a thousand hours. This is really important.
02:20:29.60	Amy Haworth	Just a thought. So,
02:20:31.22	Amy Haworth	So what I think though, I, yes, yes, sir. Yes, sir.
02:20:34.44	Ian Sobieski	Yeah, sorry, I just wanted to make a comment I raised my hand for.
02:20:35.17	Amy Haworth	No, no, sorry.
02:20:38.44	Ian Sobieski	I do think it was helpful, that little dialogue, to bubble up and articulate some criteria that might end up in our thinking. But I wanted just to add one, which is to be cognizant of what a little bit of staff time might unlock. That should be another part of the equation. So in terms of, say, for example, our volunteers, whether it's the Sausalito Foundation or the Economic Development Advisory Committee or the Sausalito Historical Society, these groups of volunteers might put in the lion's share of the effort, 90%, let's say, an iceberg,
02:20:44.91	Unknown	Thank you.
02:21:10.27	Ian Sobieski	of the work.
02:21:11.67	Ian Sobieski	but it does need 10%.
02:21:13.69	Ian Sobieski	to get the work done.
02:21:14.91	Unknown	Right.
02:21:15.21	Ian Sobieski	And if they don't have that partner in the city,
02:21:18.25	Ian Sobieski	then all that work and the ability to manifest is lost, similarly on grants. And so it shouldn't just be in our thinking the criteria of what the cost is, it's also what the potential benefit is
02:21:30.42	Ian Sobieski	whether or not it's highly leveraged work. And many of the grants, for example, I know that my colleague, General Kallman, is cutting new trail on trying to apply for many grants for resiliency for the city. There are other buckets of grants you can apply for, including those, and that kind of work unlocks money, but that money often needs a partner in the city.
02:21:30.47	Unknown	Yeah.
02:21:30.72	Scott Thornburg	Thank you.
02:21:49.64	Amy Haworth	Mm hmm.
02:21:50.04	Ian Sobieski	to finally pull the money all the way home.
02:21:52.20	Amy Haworth	Well, you kind of need a project first, too. And you're lucky that you have, all of you are so willing to dedicate your professional resources, if you will.
02:22:01.99	Amy Haworth	your skills and talents to unlocking community involvement or other kinds of ways.
02:22:08.35	Amy Haworth	But as a governance thing,
02:22:10.97	Amy Haworth	And I want you to think about these decisions that you're making and they're not decisions today. These are ideas, right? And you, you will decide upon them.
02:22:19.88	Amy Haworth	Um,
02:22:20.84	Amy Haworth	Why don't we do this? Why don't we?
02:22:23.56	Amy Haworth	Like I say, I don't think you can lock down what criteria is because I think that it will shift and sometimes there's two or three different things. But why don't we, and I'll move over there.
02:22:33.51	Amy Haworth	Just go around the room a couple of times and list what your criteria may be. And it's gonna be,
02:22:38.00	Amy Haworth	Again, this is not a big, it's,
02:22:41.21	Amy Haworth	fiscal, it's environmental, it's emergent or public safety. I haven't heard that actually come up.
02:22:48.50	Amy Haworth	However,
02:22:49.71	Amy Haworth	what police and fire do is greatly impacted by climate change too, right?
02:22:55.20	Amy Haworth	Let's just do that and you'll understand. This is nothing that we're going to codify, but I think it'll help with some understanding. So I'm going to move over to my very professional whiteboard over there.
02:23:06.32	Jill Hoffman	I just want to clarify because I think there's my concern is that we'll say all the things that we're worried about again like we're all worried about climate change and public safety and we'll list them off, but I think what Councilmember Kelman and Hoffman are trying to get us to is like.
02:23:21.71	Jill Hoffman	cost, staff time. There's a difference between the requirements that we fulfill and the lens. So which ones are you wanting us to answer for here?
02:23:30.72	Amy Haworth	That's 100%. You're 100% right. I want to, is it cost? Is it staff time?
02:23:36.52	Amy Haworth	Yeah.
02:23:37.55	Amy Haworth	That's a hunt. Thank you. Okay, thanks. Okay.
02:23:40.44	Amy Haworth	So.
02:23:41.64	Amy Haworth	Bye.
02:23:43.38	Amy Haworth	Why don't we start, Janelle, do you want to get
02:23:45.97	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:23:46.70	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:23:46.75	Janelle Bonnicksen	Happy to.
02:23:47.97	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:23:53.55	Janelle Bonnicksen	Okay, so the criteria that I often think about is long-term resilience, which just for benefit everybody sometimes just means infrastructure.
02:24:06.22	Janelle Bonnicksen	So MEMS, it means climate resilience, but it means how long, can our infrastructure respond to an event? Can our storm drains respond? Can our sewer conveyances respond when they get overwhelmed? So it's a lens to a variety of things. I think about public safety.
02:24:26.07	Janelle Bonnicksen	I think about financial impact. And by the way, our staff reports almost always at the end say financial impact. And I've been looking for assessments there and I haven't been seeing any information. And I think that's a missing element for us. It's a rigor that we need to apply to our staff reports. I think resident benefit and I think business benefit
02:24:50.50	Janelle Bonnicksen	And then ultimately,
02:24:52.76	Janelle Bonnicksen	Correct. Yep. And then ultimately I think staff time.
02:24:59.97	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:25:00.97	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:25:01.88	Amy Haworth	that now that you have a robust
02:25:03.92	Amy Haworth	I had to burn you down.
02:25:05.96	Amy Haworth	that that could be something that would be helpful
02:25:09.24	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:25:14.40	Joan Cox	um,
02:25:16.05	Joan Cox	The mayor and I sit on the agenda setting committee and
02:25:19.93	Joan Cox	a goal we shared with the city manager a week ago is that every staff report identify what strategic plan goal is being advanced by the project. And each of the things that Janelle mentioned, you know, environmental, resilience, many of the things Janelle mentioned, are already part of our strategic plan goals. So a nice way to sort of encapsulate some of our lenses is to identify how this
02:25:59.66	Joan Cox	proposed idea advances our strategic plan.
02:26:07.24	Joan Cox	So, and
02:26:10.83	Joan Cox	Yeah.
02:26:12.50	Joan Cox	And then I totally endorse the financial and staff time, obviously.
02:26:22.39	Jill Hoffman	I would add just immediate safety and security, because if there's an emergency event and we need to make it a priority or if there's an immediate concern that arises, I think that that's an important criteria as well.
02:26:33.90	Scott Thornburg	that.
02:26:34.03	Ian Sobieski	and important.
02:26:37.61	Jill Hoffman	an
02:26:38.56	Jill Hoffman	Obviously echo the resilience piece and what others have said.
02:26:41.93	Ian Sobieski	Yeah, I'd add...
02:26:45.15	Ian Sobieski	I guess maybe it was articulated benefit versus cost, but really giving some equal room to benefit because we often, we do have the fiscal cost as part of the staff reports, but we often don't articulate, you know, a sort of whiteboard or greenfield assessment of the benefit. Did you?
02:27:01.71	Jill Hoffman	or
02:27:04.37	Jill Hoffman	I just thought of one more.
02:27:05.30	Ian Sobieski	Okay. It just came to me. Can I just finish mine? I'm sorry. No, I just want one other. Because I think this word is important. It would be leverage. Leverage, meaning if you invest one unit of something, that's staff time, or one unit of $1 of city money, what do you potentially unlock? So low-hanging fruit for me was, you know, if we could spend one hour of staff time and $1 of city money and unlock 1,000 hours of volunteer time and $10 million of someone else's money, that seems like a project that I would think of differently than one that required thousands of hours of staff time or.
02:27:06.82	Jill Hoffman	Can I just finish mine? I'm sorry.
02:27:43.78	Amy Haworth	We...
02:27:44.42	Amy Haworth	It is good.
02:27:46.29	Amy Haworth	But I think also getting real estate
02:27:49.92	Amy Haworth	I get it.
02:27:52.62	Ian Sobieski	Absolutely. That would be the cost, but just to assess in addition to that, the leverage, but not the benefit because the same project, the two, you have two projects that have the same benefit.
02:28:01.92	Ian Sobieski	One could involve, and actually, but one could involve a lot of leverage, which is how much outside of city staff and city money, how much extra,
02:28:05.19	Scott Thornburg	that
02:28:14.34	Ian Sobieski	human, uh, what you call human hours and how much extra money would potentially be unlocked. This is this applying for grants, for instance.
02:28:23.91	Jill Hoffman	Just given our insurance situation, something about risk, legal or along those lines, I don't know how to articulate that I would welcome recommendations.
02:28:34.43	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:28:34.49	Jill Hoffman	Yeah.
02:28:34.57	Amy Haworth	What is at risk? Because sometimes there are things that we decide, and city attorneys are so you can't do it.
02:28:43.80	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:28:44.12	Janelle Bonnicksen	Thank you.
02:28:44.66	Janelle Bonnicksen	It doesn't mitigate rent. Right, right. So I actually have a question for the mayor. So you made two points and I want to just understand them, be curious about them. The first is you said the cost benefit. Is that a financial cost benefit or are you talking about another type of benefit is my first of two questions. Okay.
02:28:54.20	Kathy Nikitas	Thank you.
02:29:05.22	Janelle Bonnicksen	Go ahead.
02:29:05.74	Ian Sobieski	both. You can do a financial cost benefit, but you could do both. The cost isn't, there are two costs, I guess, roughly speaking, money and time. We've been talking about that. And benefits can be money and a bunch of qualitative things. Resilience, which you could, of course, quantify, but at the end of the day, you're also talking about saving lives. And we don't want to put dollar figures on people's lives. So if you reduce fire danger, if you do, if you undergrounding, you can specify a cost of that. How do you specify the cost of saving someone's life? You could say it's infinite.
02:29:38.86	Ian Sobieski	The insurance companies say it's a number. We humans try to think about that. And so I just think there are a lot of benefits that could be articulated so that we at least know they in a sense are comparing apples to oranges, but if you say we're spending a million dollars, but 5,000 people are happier,
02:29:57.07	Ian Sobieski	you can't say that that balances out, but you can at least acknowledge both things because both things are true.
02:30:03.62	Janelle Bonnicksen	So that sort of leads to my second question, which is how do I know 5,000 people are happier?
02:30:08.82	Janelle Bonnicksen	Right? I know I have more money in the bank. I know a permit gets issued. I know sales tax goes up, but I don't know
02:30:16.65	Janelle Bonnicksen	5,000 people are happier, which goes so to your second comment that you made around if $1 in one hour unlocks a million dollars in a million hours. Any thoughts on how we might from a very quantitative perspective measure that? Because what I'm looking for is us to find some agreed upon our own objective design standards, right?
02:30:37.49	Ian Sobieski	It's funny, I just laugh at that because I'm the engineer. That's the way I'm supposed to be thinking about the work.
02:30:41.30	Janelle Bonnicksen	thinking about
02:30:42.03	Unknown	I've got to
02:30:44.15	Ian Sobieski	See, so that's so funny because I think that's such a great question, you know, I love it because I think that's why there are five of us and we, to be on this council, we have to be residents. We have to be part of the community and we just make qualitative assessments at the end of the day. And we could be wrong, but at the end of the day, I don't think there's anything wrong with reflecting our community and our own hearts by saying, this is feels right. This feels like it's better and it's worth the money. And, you. And so how do you assess that 5,000 people are happier? I think you can do, the customer service people do that all the time with little scales, and we can have some kind of criteria like that. But at the end of the day, honestly, I feel like it's worth acknowledging that we are always on this dais, unless we want to be engineers and run everything by the numbers, like some Soviet commissar. We need to instead embrace the kind of American principle of pursuit of happiness. And it's in the, it's in the constitution, happiness.
02:31:41.65	Janelle Bonnicksen	Look, I'm a glass half-full person generally, so I'm normally pretty happy. I only mention it because this is where this council runs into trouble with one another because we measure happiness differently and we measure what will create that happiness differently. And if I said,
02:31:59.35	Janelle Bonnicksen	Blue Economy Innovation Zone and the Maroon Ship, and that would make me so happy. I think it'd make a lot of people happy. Am I going to get full council buy-in on it? No. You're going to make me go through the RFP, phase it out, figure out all the, like, when's it going to come back? What's it going to come? Right?
02:32:15.30	Janelle Bonnicksen	That's, I think, something we need to troubleshoot. That's where we run into an issue is when...
02:32:20.39	Janelle Bonnicksen	we don't know how to quantify that.
02:32:22.99	Janelle Bonnicksen	Thank you.
02:32:23.01	Ian Sobieski	Do we run into the trouble, or is that a healthy debate that we just shouldn't feel bad about? I think we bring contempt to that conversation, and if the community does, then that is negative. But if we do wrestle with what makes us happy and kind of qualitative, like the sea lion makes us happy, then that brings us to, you know, we can sort that out. I kind of think that's what elections are for. That's what public comment's for. We kind of wrestle with it. We agree that, you know, some people like tomatoes. Some people like tomatoes.
02:32:51.32	Ian Sobieski	It's impossible to capture
02:32:51.41	Janelle Bonnicksen	It's impossible to capture in a strategic plan is kind of what I'm getting at. So we can agree on that, that there's going to be this very subjective component to our decision making. But let's plan for it in a conversation around criteria or strategic planning.
02:33:06.85	Ian Sobieski	I agree. I agree with that. You know, but yeah, I agree with that. And even the Supreme Court and others, you know, you lawyers use these standards like reason. You lawyers use these standards like reasonable, like reasonable. What's reasonable? It's actually baked into the law.
02:33:24.31	Unknown	I think you have to, I think...
02:33:26.14	Unknown	Thank you.
02:33:28.67	Unknown	Oh, yes.
02:33:30.22	Unknown	I love
02:33:33.63	Jill Teasdale	So I think, interesting conversation up here.
02:33:38.02	Jill Teasdale	I think that it's really interesting that we received as part of this
02:33:42.94	Jill Teasdale	Yearly.
02:33:43.87	Jill Teasdale	plan.
02:33:44.68	Jill Teasdale	and a
02:33:46.99	Jill Teasdale	a chart of what's in each of our meetings for the rest of the year. And so.
02:33:51.99	Jill Teasdale	And so I think we have a finite amount of time to address things. And so when we're talking about
02:33:58.43	Jill Teasdale	you know, bringing us back to and focusing back on
02:34:01.66	Jill Teasdale	what council spends our time on and what staff spends their time on and how do we prioritize that
02:34:07.33	Jill Teasdale	When you look at our schedule for the rest of the year, we have maybe 18 or 20 meetings left for the rest of the year. We're spending four and a half hours today on a Saturday morning.
02:34:16.46	Jill Teasdale	Beautiful Saturday morning.
02:34:18.33	Jill Teasdale	Got here at eight o'clock. I got up at six. Noelle was here at 430 in the morning.
02:34:22.92	Jill Teasdale	Setting this up.
02:34:24.00	Jill Teasdale	So,
02:34:24.90	Jill Teasdale	The value of our time and what we're focused on and how we move forward throughout the year. I think it's really important and it's it gets even more focused when you look at the time we have available.
02:34:34.95	Jill Teasdale	And the things that we have to do throughout the year with regard to EIR, with regard to our ordinance updates, with regard to these things that we have, you know,
02:34:42.29	Jill Teasdale	by law we have to do.
02:34:43.86	Jill Teasdale	And then
02:34:45.04	Jill Teasdale	what does council focus our time on other than that? I think that's,
02:34:48.69	Jill Teasdale	maybe when you're talking about lens, like that's a very
02:34:52.64	Jill Teasdale	That's a pretty set lens to look at. It might help us focus.
02:34:55.96	Amy Haworth	you
02:34:56.10	Jill Teasdale	Thank you.
02:34:56.32	Amy Haworth	So I think you're also maybe going into the governance realm again, because I think what you're talking about is the quality quantity of your discussions at the dais. Right. And
02:35:07.00	Amy Haworth	And sometimes it's not
02:35:08.97	Amy Haworth	a lot of us try to keep, and I'm not talking about you folks, this is my experience, keep trying to convince somebody that my approach is right, my answer is right. And sometimes the discussion, and I think what I heard from somebody in the community is these discussions
02:35:26.64	Amy Haworth	It's not that the sea line isn't important, but is it a two hour discussion at a council meeting? I don't know that it was, you know, I don't, I'm not judging or saying that, but I think
02:35:36.44	Amy Haworth	we're trying to say that the core mission, the core mission of your city,
02:35:42.67	Amy Haworth	is public safety, actually, and emergency safety issues are gonna have to take precedence. So the core mission,
02:35:49.41	Amy Haworth	Right. And then it's programs for people. It's how you serve your people. And so
02:35:54.72	Amy Haworth	I think that
02:35:56.61	Amy Haworth	And you, so you do have all these resources, whether it's the SCA or all these other things. And I think
02:36:03.17	Amy Haworth	But it's about the quality of your discussions and
02:36:07.53	Amy Haworth	It's about how do you get to consensus and a decision and move on?
02:36:13.66	Amy Haworth	Right.
02:36:14.72	Amy Haworth	because that's also affecting your time and staff time. And if you leave a meeting and staff doesn't have clear direction,
02:36:22.21	Amy Haworth	that they should go spend 30 hours on this or this or that, that's a problem. I don't know if that is a problem, but that's a problem.
02:36:29.74	Amy Haworth	I like all these criteria. Some of them are different.
02:36:33.84	Amy Haworth	Um,
02:36:35.68	Amy Haworth	And I think, and we touched so lightly on your strategic plan goals.
02:36:44.11	Amy Haworth	But I want us to also move forward with looking at the threats that were identified, the very end with the Council and the city manager, as well as your future agenda items and I we're going to try to actually prioritize some of those future agenda agenda items, because as you identified does everybody have sorry does everybody on the dais have.
02:37:09.80	Amy Haworth	the council calendar.
02:37:11.86	Amy Haworth	Because that's what you're calling it, right?
02:37:12.38	Jill Hoffman	what you're calling it, right?
02:37:13.34	Jill Hoffman	Thank you.
02:37:14.00	Jill Hoffman	And we can put it up on there too. We can.
02:37:14.81	Amy Haworth	Nope.
02:37:16.18	Amy Haworth	Yeah.
02:37:16.97	Amy Haworth	Yeah.
02:37:17.24	Jill Hoffman	Thank you.
02:37:18.66	Jill Hoffman	Oh.
02:37:20.19	Jill Hoffman	It's in there.
02:37:25.15	Jill Hoffman	Isn't it in the printout too?
02:37:26.64	Jill Hoffman	Thank you.
02:37:27.42	Jill Hoffman	No?
02:37:29.12	Jill Hoffman	It was in our seat.
02:37:32.87	Unknown	Thank you.
02:37:33.54	Jill Hoffman	You have it right there. Oh, not the calendar, but you have this blue thing. Janelle doesn't even have the blue thing. She didn't get one of these.
02:37:39.58	Unknown	My daughter's going to be writing things
02:37:42.42	Unknown	and this on this council calendar, the council priority agenda,
02:37:46.96	Unknown	Thank you.
02:37:47.08	Unknown	Oh.
02:37:47.58	Amy Haworth	Is it 20? I have that too. We did. Next slide.
02:37:47.60	Unknown	Thank you.
02:37:50.23	Jill Hoffman	Not a good party.
02:37:52.37	Jill Hoffman	I'll take him in a minute.
02:37:54.82	Amy Haworth	I know you probably can't read that.
02:37:57.69	Jill Hoffman	also awesome
02:37:58.09	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:37:58.42	Amy Haworth	But I also, which also says. Would you go out? I'm scared. But I also, I'm going to pass out, we're going to do an exercise around all.
02:38:01.60	Unknown	out there.
02:38:02.14	Unknown	Thank you.
02:38:06.68	Unknown	Thank you.
02:38:08.76	Unknown	to be part of this.
02:38:09.94	Unknown	Let's take a minute.
02:38:13.45	Ian Sobieski	We're going to move the public comment in about an hour or so. So we'll take a five minute break.
02:38:22.02	Amy Haworth	A little break because I tried.
02:38:24.74	Amy Haworth	to look through everybody's threats
02:38:29.38	Amy Haworth	that they listed.
02:38:31.12	Amy Haworth	Um,
02:38:32.45	Amy Haworth	And I came up with some buckets.
02:38:34.85	Amy Haworth	of commonalities, which we're not going to address right now, but I want it in front of you.
02:38:40.53	Amy Haworth	um
02:38:41.48	Amy Haworth	There's a lot of things I left off and we'll address that in a minute or two or three.
02:38:47.99	Amy Haworth	Do we have up there? Yeah, our future agenda items. So you can see them over there. Now there was in somebody's notes, there were two things on this list that,
02:38:58.44	Amy Haworth	that were dependent on some court case. And so they're sort of waiting. Mr. C manager, do you know which, could you remind me of those two?
02:39:08.67	Chris Zapata	The city attorney can speak to the two that we have that are waiting, I think. Sergio, are you on?
02:39:15.50	Sergio	Yes.
02:39:16.51	Sergio	Yeah, no, one of them happens to be potentially implementing reach codes. That is still pending. The Ninth Circuit recently ruled that federal law preempts a lot of reach code ordinances that allow cities to ban new natural gas infrastructure as part of construction. Actually, just a few weeks ago, the Ninth Circuit, nine were hearing in Bonk. I expect that that decision is going to be further appealed to the Supreme Court by the city of Berkeley. So that is still ongoing, but it is-
02:39:52.35	Amy Haworth	I think I might have even taken that off my list because of that. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. The other one, there was another one, right?
02:39:58.67	Sergio	Um, that's the one I'm aware of. And is there another one you are?
02:40:04.52	Amy Haworth	I thought there was something about either hillside or landslide that was waiting that had something pending.
02:40:10.07	Amy Haworth	Um,
02:40:10.97	Amy Haworth	But let's just proceed. If you're not aware of it.
02:40:12.89	Janelle Bonnicksen	aware of it.
02:40:13.58	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:40:13.62	Janelle Bonnicksen	Thank you.
02:40:13.63	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:40:13.65	Janelle Bonnicksen	SETTING.
02:40:14.04	Amy Haworth	There's something that's pending.
02:40:16.11	Sergio	And that is on the chart on your screen right now.
02:40:18.76	Amy Haworth	Yes, I know. But what I'm saying is when we talk about prioritizing these, just keep in mind.
02:40:25.23	Amy Haworth	that that is something that we can't you guys can't actually act on right now because of the pending
02:40:31.01	Amy Haworth	case. Is that correct?
02:40:33.02	Amy Haworth	that they would not be able to act on it if there's a pending case.
02:40:36.13	Sergio	David Ensign PB, Hewlett-O'Hon, I'm not aware of any pending litigation that would prevent the city from.
02:40:40.33	Sergio	undertaking a new hillside ordinance. The issue is, is
02:40:44.58	Sergio	Due to the housing crisis act, you know, the city has to be mindful in terms of adopting any new standards that are not objective standards that curtail development and the city can't reduce the intensity of housing development. Okay. The housing crisis act.
02:40:59.55	Amy Haworth	Thank you for that. And thank you for, since I don't live here, understanding that.
02:41:04.82	Amy Haworth	So what I think would be really helpful is
02:41:08.02	Amy Haworth	Um,
02:41:09.98	Amy Haworth	These are all very valuable, valid things, projects.
02:41:14.77	Amy Haworth	Now I'm about to ask you to go with your gut and we're gonna, you know, you're gonna physically take index cards that I cut at Kinko's last night.
02:41:25.72	Amy Haworth	And you're going to try to narrow down your top
02:41:29.00	Amy Haworth	projects.
02:41:30.68	Amy Haworth	That doesn't...
02:41:32.27	Amy Haworth	Well, I'm going to take you through the exercise, but basically we're going to try and narrow these down.
02:41:36.64	Amy Haworth	That doesn't mean something's falling off the list. That does not mean we're discarding it.
02:41:41.10	Amy Haworth	That doesn't mean
02:41:42.77	Amy Haworth	Um, anything except
02:41:45.00	Amy Haworth	I think it'd be helpful and I want staff to do it as well.
02:41:48.76	Amy Haworth	Now, you are not going to be able to make this decision with the criteria of how much staff time does it take, right? Because you don't know, you're not getting a full report. We don't know how much it's going to cost, right? And that is an issue, but...
02:42:02.09	Amy Haworth	You will figure that out through a budgeting process. But what I want y'all to do is,
02:42:07.07	Amy Haworth	From your own personal lenses, whatever that criteria may be, I'm going to be giving you some index cards.
02:42:12.82	Amy Haworth	And we're going to start to prioritize this now.
02:42:17.18	Amy Haworth	There may be something that's not on here when we get down to our...
02:42:20.48	Amy Haworth	There's no way we're going to get to three. We might get to five.
02:42:23.94	Amy Haworth	But
02:42:25.06	Amy Haworth	Let's just work with me here for a little bit. And I'm going to give you time. Okay. So I'm going to pass out.
02:42:31.11	Amy Haworth	Cards.
02:42:32.23	Ian Sobieski	Yeah, I'm sorry to interrupt, Amy. Please do.
02:42:34.88	Amy Haworth	Please do.
02:42:35.40	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:42:35.45	Ian Sobieski	But...
02:42:36.62	Ian Sobieski	Joan just mentioned it and I did too that there are several things missing on this list.
02:42:41.24	Amy Haworth	From the future agenda list?
02:42:43.20	Joan Cox	Thank you.
02:42:43.72	Ian Sobieski	I mean,
02:42:44.53	Joan Cox	I got this from staff. So whenever someone asks for something to be addressed, we place it on a future agenda items list. That does not mean these are our top future agenda items to be addressed. These represent various requests from community members, from staff.
02:43:04.63	Joan Cox	uh, council members. This is not in any, this does not, there are many things that we already know are in the hopper and pending are going to be coming forward. Right. Aren't on here. Right.
02:43:17.40	Joan Cox	And so.
02:43:18.26	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:43:19.24	Joan Cox	Oh.
02:43:19.56	Amy Haworth	And that I understand. We're not paring those down. But if we were to Jill's point about...
02:43:27.02	Amy Haworth	We let me, let me to Jill's point that you have a full calendar, right? Of important things that you're doing.
02:43:34.61	Ian Sobieski	So these are in addition.
02:43:34.68	Amy Haworth	with these areas.
02:43:35.88	Amy Haworth	These are in addition.
02:43:37.21	Ian Sobieski	So things like our property condition assessment is not on here, the 10-year financial-
02:43:42.73	Amy Haworth	But is that on the agenda? Is that in the calendar?
02:43:46.17	Ian Sobieski	Right.
02:43:46.78	Amy Haworth	So that's still coming.
02:43:48.32	Ian Sobieski	Thank you.
02:43:48.59	Amy Haworth	So
02:43:50.85	Amy Haworth	The thing is, this is, this is.
02:43:51.91	Ian Sobieski	This is just working on this. Another way of thinking about it is we're just working on this list right now. Just in its own box. This is a list of priorities.
02:43:55.17	Amy Haworth	We're just working on this list right now.
02:44:00.33	Amy Haworth	Because right now, as people who set an agenda, as staff, they're like, what else is coming out here? What else is coming?
02:44:07.69	Amy Haworth	And this is not taking a place. This is not taking a place of stuff that is on that calendar.
02:44:12.64	Ian Sobieski	This is not a comprehensive list of all our to do's. You're just asking us among these things. Right. To stack rank them.
02:44:18.24	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:44:18.27	Joan Cox	Right. Stock rank.
02:44:19.13	Joan Cox	Because this is an example. For example, revising our zoning ordinance.
02:44:19.23	Amy Haworth	because, you know,
02:44:25.07	Joan Cox	is something we have to do, and it's by statute, by, you know,
02:44:31.52	Joan Cox	And it's not on this list and it's not in the calendar.
02:44:34.71	Joan Cox	Thank you.
02:44:34.74	Amy Haworth	Mr. City manager, can you speak?
02:44:35.79	Joan Cox	Thank you.
02:44:35.85	Joan Cox	to the
02:44:35.97	Amy Haworth	to the
02:44:36.04	Joan Cox	Thank you.
02:44:36.06	Amy Haworth	up.
02:44:37.22	Chris Zapata	Yeah. And that's why we have these kinds of conversations. What are we missing? What are we missing? And if we are missing them and, you know, we have people here from staff that know these things and we should plug them in. And this calendar is fluid. Obviously, it's going to change given certain things. But the future agenda items that you see up there, those are things you've asked for in council meetings. and that's the list of things that council directly asks for what you have on the 12 month lookout or the work plan or the calendar of things that council directly asked for what you have on the 12-month lookout or the work plan or the calendar are things that we believe you know we need to have ready to go that are not on that list and maybe on that list but the second piece of information which is the 12 months is actually more comprehensive this is what you have and asked for in recent meetings over the past six six months to a year
02:45:23.78	Joan Cox	Right, but some of the things that are on this list is because a community member said, hey, I have a question about such and so. We said, well...
02:45:30.51	Joan Cox	put that on the, it doesn't mean it's a council priority.
02:45:34.60	Joan Cox	It's a council to be addressed at some point in the future as a
02:45:39.46	Joan Cox	we are available, but what's missing is
02:45:44.55	Joan Cox	Prioritizing your calendar.
02:45:45.97	Amy Haworth	who is a vendor.
02:45:46.27	Ian Sobieski	The way I heard it is set aside all, we know there are other priorities that are not on this list, but here's a sheet of paper that staff,
02:45:53.67	Joan Cox	Well, let me ask you.
02:45:53.78	Ian Sobieski	Well, let me ask you.
02:45:54.63	Ian Sobieski	And let's just stop drink this.
02:45:54.73	Joan Cox	Thank you.
02:45:55.30	Joan Cox	Stop rink this. Implementing the housing element, I think, as a council, we agree is a top priority. And implementing the housing element, we have the ODDS here.
02:46:05.93	Joan Cox	but in the calendar, but we do not have, and we have approval of the EIR related to the housing element, but we do not have
02:46:14.94	Joan Cox	Any of the work necessary to update our zoning ordinance, which we're going to have to put two ballot initiatives on the ballot. And none of that is reflected in the calendar or in this future agenda item. Okay. And that's a huge lift in terms of staff time. And I believe there's consensus that that's a huge priority for the council. Yeah, great catch.
02:46:37.10	Amy Haworth	Yes, I can pivot, but go ahead, Jo.
02:46:40.04	Jill Teasdale	So I think, yeah, I think this has identified sort of a failure in our, the council's input and what our future agendas are. So I think that's clear, right? Like this is a wish list that somehow is compiled with anything anybody says goes on it. But to your sort of sharing of how you've done it in the past with other groups is that there's no interim.
02:46:57.76	Unknown	in that.
02:46:58.06	Scott Thornburg	Thank you.
02:47:04.25	Jill Teasdale	evaluation.
02:47:05.55	Jill Teasdale	about, okay, here's our total wish list, but
02:47:08.25	Jill Teasdale	what's the pipeline for something that's actually gonna get on
02:47:10.75	Jill Teasdale	the agenda.
02:47:12.27	Jill Teasdale	from the full council, right? Like we don't have that step. That's a failure that we have at the city council level that we don't have that step and sometimes
02:47:19.68	Jill Teasdale	things that are on our agenda are a complete surprise to people that are not on the agenda setting committee, which, you know, I'm saying this is probably a historic failure. That is right. You're not. No, I'm not taking a person. Yeah, no, no. Yeah, it's not just this, but it's it's a lack of transparency, even amongst the council.
02:47:27.90	Amy Haworth	You're not just counsel.
02:47:29.01	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:47:29.04	Amy Haworth	No, we're not taking it.
02:47:36.60	Amy Haworth	I have to say it's a bit of a relief because
02:47:40.60	Amy Haworth	I mean, I think it's a little bit
02:47:42.39	Amy Haworth	unclear and I think it's because there's been a lot of catch up over time, you know, but it is a little bit unclear on what the actual work plan is and actually
02:47:46.36	Scott Thornburg	know.
02:47:46.42	Unknown	I'm not sure.
02:47:46.48	Scott Thornburg	know,
02:47:51.74	Amy Haworth	And that's a new term for you. I mean, that's what I call it, the work plan. And so I see this, I saw this list as council requested agenda items
02:48:01.68	Amy Haworth	And so it may be,
02:48:03.23	Amy Haworth	And for me, I was thinking, well, staff has all these other things to do. Right. And
02:48:09.16	Amy Haworth	I just was like, well, how do we pair this down? Because,
02:48:14.84	Amy Haworth	And maybe it's, we're not right now. I mean, maybe we're going to put this in a holding pad. Like, do you feel that it's critical right now?
02:48:22.11	Amy Haworth	to be adding new projects or do you want an ICU and then Janelle?
02:48:24.16	Joan Cox	Or do you want to?
02:48:26.77	Joan Cox	I would say there are definitely some things on here that have been outstanding for a while that I think this council would endorse
02:48:33.42	Joan Cox	prioritizing like,
02:48:35.43	Joan Cox	you know, the landslide
02:48:38.53	Joan Cox	you know, task force made some recommendations that
02:48:43.29	Joan Cox	We need to implement. So I definitely think we could identify some of the things on here, but I just wanted to be clear. This is not the total universe of what would this council would consider to be its top priorities that are not already in the council.
02:48:52.66	Amy Haworth	Got it.
02:48:59.32	Amy Haworth	And I did understand that. So now I I'm seeing a way forward, but I want to hear from Janelle first. Oh, thank you. Um,
02:49:05.06	Janelle Bonnicksen	I was going to suggest maybe a way forward is just as an exercise to actually go through the prioritization of this, because these are apples, oranges and bananas up here. And it'll give some really great insight for one another in the community about how we.
02:49:16.23	Janelle Bonnicksen	sort of view this. Also with the caveat that at least three of these are umbrellas where two or other or more actually fit under that umbrella. So we should consolidate as well.
02:49:29.23	Amy Haworth	So I think that it would be, I think it's meaningful to take 10 minutes for you guys to look through this and I cut out the cards that we're going to do this.
02:49:39.91	Amy Haworth	Um,
02:49:41.14	Amy Haworth	No, but, and with the acknowledgement that it's not, you know, it's not everything is going to rise. Right. And so I think there's what, is there 22 up there? 22?
02:49:52.55	Amy Haworth	All right, so I've got all these packets of cards. So what I want you all to do, and city manager as well, and any staff member who wants to, because I have a lot of cards,
02:50:02.10	Amy Haworth	I want you to make three buckets, basically.
02:50:05.49	Amy Haworth	So think of it as seven, seven and eight. Yeah, seven, seven and eight.
02:50:12.33	Amy Haworth	Um,
02:50:13.22	Amy Haworth	And, you know, your bottom seven
02:50:15.87	Amy Haworth	Your middle, is it 21 for you guys?
02:50:20.75	Amy Haworth	They have 22, there's 21 there.
02:50:23.36	Amy Haworth	There's probably 21 cards here.
02:50:26.38	Amy Haworth	We're going to do it and we're going to see what we left off.
02:50:29.94	Amy Haworth	We can do this. They're smarter than I am. We can figure this out. So I want you to do a bottom seven,
02:50:36.35	Amy Haworth	Remember, they're not going away. There's a middle...
02:50:39.98	Amy Haworth	seven and a top eight. And so you're going to take these cards, you're going to physically create piles, and we're not going to talk about it. I want you to just do it. And then we're going to come together. Yes, Mr. Mayor.
02:50:49.01	Ian Sobieski	Well,
02:50:49.32	Ian Sobieski	I just...
02:50:50.55	Ian Sobieski	To make that successful, I'm wondering if there are one or two, I'm asking my colleagues really just to take out so that.
02:50:56.94	Ian Sobieski	There are a little more apples, apples, because we, for instance, have a property lease philosophy, and then we have just one lease on here, the Caskidley Boat Center lease.
02:51:05.11	Joan Cox	But I think that's going to take time to discuss that. I would say let's just stack them. And if something's already under something, put that on the bottom. Yeah, the big thing.
02:51:13.34	Ian Sobieski	The business improvement district is on here, but that already has its own timetable for instance. So.
02:51:13.45	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:51:18.42	Amy Haworth	So is that already happening?
02:51:20.84	Ian Sobieski	It's already on the calendar.
02:51:22.02	Amy Haworth	Also, you'll put it at the bottom, so it won't be something that you're adding.
02:51:25.34	Amy Haworth	it in the box.
02:51:26.10	Amy Haworth	But good question. Okay, so I'm going to hand these out.
02:51:28.87	Amy Haworth	And we'll see what happens. Obviously, you're welcome to talk to each other, but you don't have to. Let's take five to 10 minutes. I'll watch what you're doing.
02:51:37.22	Amy Haworth	Okay, so take one and pass it down.
02:51:40.50	Unknown	Thank you.
02:51:40.65	Amy Haworth	Thank you. You're welcome.
02:51:41.56	Unknown	you
02:51:42.05	Amy Haworth	I'm really excited.
02:51:42.24	Unknown	Thank you.
02:51:45.02	Unknown	Right.
02:51:46.49	Unknown	Thank you.
02:51:48.26	Unknown	Yeah. What are they doing?
02:51:50.54	Unknown	What are they doing?
02:51:52.01	Unknown	What am I supposed to be doing again?
02:51:53.39	Unknown	I love the idea of that.
02:51:55.43	Unknown	of
02:51:56.19	Unknown	Thank you.
02:51:56.34	Unknown	I think it's a really great question.
02:51:59.03	Amy Haworth	That's great. But I have had a consultant who was so written into you, didn't let me stand up when I made a friend.
02:52:05.56	Unknown	We're coming at something. What's that?
02:52:06.22	Unknown	Thank you.
02:52:06.25	Unknown	Thank you.
02:52:06.26	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:52:06.30	Unknown	Thank you.
02:52:06.92	Unknown	Thank you.
02:52:06.96	Unknown	Thank you.
02:52:06.97	Unknown	at some of the
02:52:08.22	Unknown	Thank you.
02:52:08.24	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:52:08.38	Unknown	Thank you.
02:52:08.41	Amy Haworth	Right.
02:52:08.53	Unknown	Thank you.
02:52:09.18	Scott Thornburg	Thank you.
02:52:09.22	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:52:09.40	Unknown	Thank you.
02:52:09.59	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:52:09.73	Unknown	Thank you.
02:52:09.94	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:52:09.98	Unknown	Thank you.
02:52:11.36	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:52:11.40	Unknown	Thank you.
02:52:14.69	Unknown	Thank you.
02:52:15.44	Unknown	Yeah. I don't know.
02:52:16.22	Unknown	Thank you.
02:52:17.39	Unknown	I was going to play in the game, but hopefully it's there. I need to.
02:52:20.64	Unknown	There.
02:52:22.09	Unknown	Who said that?
02:52:24.44	Unknown	Hi guys.
02:52:26.11	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:52:26.13	Unknown	I'm going to watch them.
02:52:27.04	Amy Haworth	I'm going to get some more water, though, too. Oh, actually.
02:52:34.46	Ian Sobieski	Nope.
02:52:34.94	Ian Sobieski	But we just said we wouldn't.
02:52:36.20	Unknown	Thank you.
02:52:39.26	Unknown	I would put it on, right? Yeah. Part of that will do. You don't need to add a warning.
02:52:46.01	Unknown	Thank you.
02:52:46.48	Ian Sobieski	If it's already on a calendar, we put it on the bottom.
02:52:49.21	Unknown	See you in conference.
02:52:54.75	Unknown	Thank you.
02:52:58.56	Unknown	Bye.
02:52:59.34	Unknown	.
02:53:00.53	Babette McDougall	Thank you.
02:53:00.57	Unknown	Yeah.
02:53:01.31	Babette McDougall	Thank you.
02:53:03.91	Unknown	it.
02:53:04.05	Unknown	It's just...
02:53:04.45	Unknown	Thank you.
02:53:04.64	Unknown	Thank you.
02:53:04.79	Jill Hoffman	Bye.
02:53:06.71	Jill Hoffman	So we're like, yeah, okay, they are.
02:53:07.93	Blaustein	Thank you.
02:53:08.32	Blaustein	Thank you.
02:53:08.36	Jill Hoffman	is like it.
02:53:09.04	Jill Hoffman	with you.
02:53:12.11	Unknown	Actually, how about making a stack of things you think is on the card?
02:53:14.76	Unknown	Thank you.
02:53:14.83	Unknown	Thank you.
02:53:14.96	Unknown	Thank you.
02:53:15.07	Unknown	I'm sorry.
02:53:15.98	Unknown	Thank you.
02:53:16.84	Unknown	What about a third? Majority puts it on the calendar. That's
02:53:17.27	Unknown	Right.
02:53:18.08	Unknown	or
02:53:19.35	Unknown	That would be just like...
02:53:21.98	Unknown	Hello.
02:53:25.86	Unknown	Considently, like,
02:53:25.98	Unknown	Thank you.
02:53:26.00	Unknown	It's like,
02:53:27.23	Unknown	play the show.
02:53:28.67	Unknown	Maybe.
02:53:30.84	Unknown	Yeah.
02:53:31.72	Unknown	Bye.
02:53:33.00	Unknown	Good afternoon, Eric.
02:53:34.22	Unknown	So that's not a question.
02:53:37.27	Unknown	Well,
02:53:37.41	SPEAKER_22	Yeah.
02:53:40.48	Unknown	I agree.
02:53:41.12	Unknown	Thank you.
02:53:41.17	Ian Sobieski	Thank you.
02:53:41.19	Unknown	I hope we struggle just a little bit.
02:53:42.03	Unknown	because of the mixed bag project.
02:53:42.76	Ian Sobieski	Thank you.
02:53:42.79	Unknown	It's bad.
02:53:43.60	Unknown	Thank you.
02:53:44.23	Unknown	Thank you.
02:53:44.50	Unknown	Well,
02:53:46.98	Unknown	You should get the prize. Have a lollipop.
02:53:47.19	Unknown	And if she
02:53:47.95	Unknown	Okay.
02:53:50.23	Unknown	to all of that.
02:53:52.46	Unknown	Have a look.
02:53:53.03	Unknown	Bye.
02:53:53.86	Unknown	Thank you.
02:53:54.79	Unknown	Thanks.
02:53:55.04	Scott Thornburg	Okay.
02:53:55.18	Unknown	I
02:53:57.27	Unknown	Really? Thanks. All right. Thank you. Okay. All right. All right.
02:54:00.80	Unknown	It's out of this.
02:54:01.98	Unknown	Okay.
02:54:02.99	Unknown	Yeah.
02:54:04.41	Unknown	All right.
02:54:07.24	Unknown	All right.
02:54:07.61	Unknown	All right.
02:54:10.38	Unknown	to your special needs.
02:54:12.05	Unknown	That's super bad.
02:54:13.30	Unknown	Yeah, I didn't know that. I'm a little bit.
02:54:16.62	Unknown	special needs.
02:54:20.25	Unknown	Thank you.
02:54:22.40	Unknown	on the rails.
02:54:29.75	Unknown	So maybe.
02:54:30.41	Unknown	Thank you.
02:54:30.65	Unknown	You said seven, Chris Bernice?
02:54:32.74	Unknown	Thank you.
02:54:33.72	Unknown	cards of honor.
02:54:34.61	Scott Thornburg	I've heard of it.
02:54:39.35	Unknown	And then you have to
02:54:42.39	Unknown	I don't know.
02:54:45.31	Unknown	We are broken.
02:54:48.03	Scott Thornburg	Thank you.
02:54:48.08	Unknown	Thank you.
02:54:51.05	Unknown	Not bad.
02:54:51.98	Unknown	Yeah.
02:54:52.79	Scott Thornburg	You know?
02:54:54.16	Scott Thornburg	Somebody, somebody.
02:54:57.99	Unknown	.
02:55:00.13	Scott Thornburg	whatever the back of the top,
02:55:01.78	Unknown	are at the Institute.
02:55:03.28	Unknown	It's a good one. We're going to go.
02:55:06.42	Unknown	Thank you.
02:55:07.54	Unknown	How many in a second time?
02:55:09.53	Unknown	I mean,
02:55:10.20	Unknown	I mean, it's like...
02:55:11.32	Unknown	Thank you.
02:55:12.33	Unknown	How many in the second pile?
02:55:14.57	Unknown	Hey.
02:55:15.26	Unknown	Thank you.
02:55:15.28	Unknown	877.
02:55:16.16	Unknown	Thanks, Sterling.
02:55:17.97	Unknown	Okay.
02:55:19.06	Unknown	Thank you.
02:55:19.91	Unknown	But I promise you will not be penalized.
02:55:23.72	Unknown	Thank you.
02:55:27.60	Unknown	Remember.
02:55:27.97	Scott Thornburg	Thank you.
02:55:28.83	Unknown	That's not right.
02:55:32.65	Unknown	I could do it.
02:55:36.27	Unknown	No, it's a boy.
02:55:37.76	Unknown	Yeah.
02:55:38.30	Unknown	Oh, God.
02:55:39.38	Unknown	Yeah.
02:55:42.16	Ian Sobieski	No, I guess I'll pick it up because I thought you did. It sounded important.
02:55:45.61	Unknown	Thank you.
02:55:47.31	Unknown	Thank you.
02:55:47.34	Ian Sobieski	You know,
02:55:47.75	Unknown	Yes.
02:55:50.47	Unknown	All right, I guess I'll take it out.
02:55:52.05	Unknown	Thank you.
02:55:52.71	Unknown	for assistance to get another group.
02:55:56.61	Amy Haworth	I'll do.
02:55:57.13	Unknown	The committee.
02:55:58.97	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:55:59.04	Unknown	That was that.
02:55:59.53	Amy Haworth	Thanks.
02:56:00.64	Amy Haworth	Wait a minute, because I got a thing.
02:56:01.84	Unknown	Ordering them. We get to an internet. It's like everybody's customer. We're not big at it. We're the part. We're all our children, right? Sure.
02:56:01.86	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:56:01.98	Kathy Nikitas	Thank you.
02:56:02.77	Amy Haworth	I heard.
02:56:03.49	Kathy Nikitas	Thank you.
02:56:03.53	Janelle Bonnicksen	Wait, you turn it.
02:56:04.05	Kathy Nikitas	Thank you.
02:56:05.77	Kathy Nikitas	Thank you.
02:56:05.87	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:56:05.92	Kathy Nikitas	Thank you.
02:56:06.16	Janelle Bonnicksen	Thank you.
02:56:06.18	Kathy Nikitas	Thank you.
02:56:09.11	Amy Haworth	DR.
02:56:09.26	Kathy Nikitas	church.
02:56:09.40	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:56:09.89	Scott Thornburg	Thank you.
02:56:12.37	Unknown	I didn't think I could hear something.
02:56:14.85	Amy Haworth	I do not have a favorite son.
02:56:16.77	Amy Haworth	I promise you.
02:56:18.55	Amy Haworth	Don't listen to them. It's a habit.
02:56:21.23	Unknown	Okay, so...
02:56:25.31	Amy Haworth	Okay.
02:56:26.06	Scott Thornburg	I'm gonna do a capsule turn.
02:56:26.87	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:56:26.92	Scott Thornburg	Thank you very much.
02:56:29.77	Scott Thornburg	Thank you.
02:56:30.21	Scott Thornburg	I'm sorry.
02:56:31.71	Scott Thornburg	I think it's a few more.
02:56:34.95	Amy Haworth	Okay.
02:56:37.40	Unknown	It's completely offered.
02:56:39.02	Amy Haworth	So I heard.
02:56:40.89	Unknown	one.
02:56:41.02	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:56:41.83	Amy Haworth	I heard you say things, a few of you say that
02:56:45.38	Unknown	Thank you.
02:56:45.40	Amy Haworth	Some of these things are already on the calendar.
02:56:47.59	Unknown	And
02:56:49.21	Amy Haworth	If you...
02:56:50.83	Amy Haworth	Eventually, we'll identify that.
02:56:53.14	Amy Haworth	I'm going to make check marks.
02:56:56.26	Amy Haworth	Here.
02:56:57.68	Amy Haworth	where your priorities are.
02:56:59.69	Amy Haworth	So we can see if I hit them really right at the top. We're going to check staffs.
02:57:04.70	Amy Haworth	All right.
02:57:06.02	Amy Haworth	But...
02:57:07.48	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:57:07.85	Unknown	Thank you.
02:57:08.89	Amy Haworth	Not written.
02:57:09.39	Unknown	It's done.
02:57:11.43	Unknown	Part of it too is also because I think there is
02:57:15.80	Amy Haworth	I want to say confusion. It's just that we need to be
02:57:20.51	Amy Haworth	sure that we're fully informed of what access is on the conference this year.
02:57:24.58	Amy Haworth	And
02:57:28.06	Amy Haworth	And even if it's on there, understanding like like
02:57:34.67	Amy Haworth	You know, a lot of things in planning, with podcasts, we say, oh, it's updated to the general plan.
02:57:42.30	Amy Haworth	I haven't had a subject to you with me.
02:57:44.19	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:57:45.35	Amy Haworth	Money and time and job.
02:57:48.07	Amy Haworth	Ciao.
02:57:48.90	Amy Haworth	Anyway.
02:57:50.45	Amy Haworth	All right, are we good?
02:57:51.83	Amy Haworth	Yeah.
02:57:52.93	Amy Haworth	All right.
02:57:54.45	Amy Haworth	So again, I'm going to make little hash marks.
02:57:57.30	Amy Haworth	Um,
02:57:59.17	Amy Haworth	For your number one and well,
02:58:02.46	Amy Haworth	What? Okay.
02:58:03.14	Babette McDougall	Thank you.
02:58:03.71	Amy Haworth	God bless you.
02:58:04.24	Babette McDougall	We're gonna work.
02:58:04.98	Unknown	Thank you.
02:58:05.97	Unknown	the right thing.
02:58:08.01	Amy Haworth	This is how we sit. Yeah, two minutes.
02:58:09.97	Unknown	All right.
02:58:10.61	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:58:10.70	Unknown	Thank you.
02:58:10.95	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:58:11.74	Unknown	Yeah, I would love to do that. Let's start with Jill.
02:58:15.46	Unknown	That's a good one that's like, Patrick.
02:58:17.36	Unknown	Thank you.
02:58:17.90	Unknown	OK.
02:58:21.13	Unknown	Okay?
02:58:21.85	Unknown	We got that.
02:58:22.10	Amy Haworth	Yeah.
02:58:22.48	Amy Haworth	or we don't have a mess.
02:58:23.35	Unknown	No comment. Okay, it's right.
02:58:25.06	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:58:26.61	Amy Haworth	It's a breath of a little. Come on.
02:58:28.33	Amy Haworth	Okay, go ahead. Next is study and infrastructure, RMP.
02:58:34.15	Unknown	or specific at one day.
02:58:36.11	Amy Haworth	Next is study. You already have that. That's already on the agenda.
02:58:40.26	Unknown	What's going on here at the end?
02:58:41.97	Unknown	Well, it comes out of the book.
02:58:43.96	Amy Haworth	I'm going to put
02:58:47.23	Amy Haworth	Already on?
02:58:48.80	Amy Haworth	Okay.
02:58:49.97	Unknown	Thank you.
02:58:50.34	Unknown	The jihad, jihad, whatever. That's what it's called. Dad. Dad. Got it. Super consolidation.
02:58:56.31	Scott Thornburg	Thank you.
02:58:56.33	Unknown	Thank you.
02:58:56.40	Amy Haworth	that.
02:58:56.72	Unknown	Yeah.
02:59:03.03	Jill Teasdale	God bless you.
02:59:04.95	Jill Teasdale	That was the side ordinance.
02:59:04.99	Unknown	That was good.
02:59:06.81	Jill Teasdale	Thank you.
02:59:06.84	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
02:59:06.89	Unknown	Thank you.
02:59:07.67	Jill Teasdale	revisions to have blood playing.
02:59:09.59	Unknown	Thank you.
02:59:09.62	Jill Teasdale	Thank you.
02:59:09.64	Unknown	Thank you.
02:59:10.28	Jill Teasdale	Thank you.
02:59:10.33	Unknown	What is that?
02:59:12.34	Unknown	What if at blood plain, we're going to, I'm assuming that we're going to do it.
02:59:16.78	Unknown	I don't think I have no idea. I don't think that's a good form of the plan. I don't know that. I know it's not in the world.
02:59:17.91	Unknown	With that,
02:59:19.43	Kathy Nikitas	on the flyers.
02:59:22.43	Kathy Nikitas	Thank you.
02:59:23.58	Unknown	Thank you.
02:59:23.77	Unknown	All right, come back.
02:59:27.75	Unknown	We should do it.
02:59:31.19	Unknown	Bye.
02:59:31.75	Unknown	Honestly, that has to be a return.
02:59:32.10	Scott Thornburg	Thank you.
02:59:34.30	Unknown	Um, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
02:59:44.57	Unknown	No, I couldn't do that. Oh. Yeah.
02:59:44.67	Unknown	.
02:59:44.76	Babette McDougall	Yeah.
02:59:48.08	Unknown	Thank you.
02:59:49.25	Unknown	Okay.
02:59:52.79	Unknown	Uh, public comment proposal.
02:59:55.75	Unknown	But now I should be a 10 minute conversation.
02:59:58.01	Unknown	I love that. Okay. All right.
03:00:00.66	Unknown	And if I stop it, I'll forgive you.
03:00:00.74	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
03:00:00.84	Amy Haworth	it.
03:00:04.01	Amy Haworth	They're already on the calendar, okay?
03:00:07.51	Unknown	Last year, I was loving it.
03:00:09.21	Unknown	Wait.
03:00:10.63	Unknown	Okay.
03:00:11.84	Unknown	I can't hear you.
03:00:13.09	Unknown	Oh, they came here.
03:00:15.74	Unknown	Thank you.
03:00:15.83	Janelle Bonnicksen	property lease philosophies on the right hand side. They're done.
03:00:21.95	Janelle Bonnicksen	The potential catastrophic insurance supports down on the right.
03:00:27.32	Janelle Bonnicksen	money reserve policies.
03:00:30.49	Janelle Bonnicksen	the GAD, which for me included the hillside. Next is study and infrastructure RFP.
03:00:36.58	Janelle Bonnicksen	Right hand side.
03:00:36.97	Amy Haworth	Right hand.
03:00:41.58	Unknown	So we got that.
03:00:45.68	Unknown	I'm going to let it go.
03:00:47.50	Jill Hoffman	Okay, joint EOC and MOU approval, approval, because we never mind no comments. Hillside ordinance.
03:00:54.15	Unknown	Help that word. Why can't I remember what we're doing? Thank you.
03:01:01.44	Jill Hoffman	Sewer consolidation.
03:01:05.14	Amy Haworth	Okay?
03:01:05.86	Jill Hoffman	money reserve policies.
03:01:07.95	Amy Haworth	Flint? I mean, not back to the...
03:01:10.05	Jill Hoffman	Property lease philosophies.
03:01:13.64	Jill Hoffman	Um, wait, that's not...
03:01:16.81	Jill Hoffman	Um,
03:01:18.60	Jill Hoffman	employee parking, just parking.
03:01:21.28	Unknown	that.
03:01:21.40	Amy Haworth	That was a cat.
03:01:21.77	Jill Hoffman	Yeah.
03:01:21.86	Amy Haworth	Yeah.
03:01:22.60	Unknown	Thank you.
03:01:22.65	Unknown	Thank you.
03:01:22.74	Amy Haworth	you
03:01:22.80	Unknown	it.
03:01:25.91	Jill Hoffman	And the Dorothy Gibson house, because that's just...
03:01:29.33	Amy Haworth	in this country.
03:01:31.59	Amy Haworth	Okay, great, thank you.
03:01:32.98	Jill Hoffman	Because I had the Nexus Infrastructure one that's already on, and I had the Odds and that's already on. So that was...
03:01:37.97	Jill Hoffman	Yeah, they're already on.
03:01:42.68	Joan Cox	money reserve policies,
03:01:45.74	Joan Cox	Options for insurance carriers catastrophic. Yep.
03:01:51.31	Joan Cox	Jihad.
03:01:53.60	Joan Cox	Don't call it that. Dad.
03:01:56.40	Unknown	I love you.
03:01:59.37	Joan Cox	Hillside ordinance.
03:02:02.83	Joan Cox	Property lease philosophies.
03:02:07.57	Joan Cox	Thank you.
03:02:09.83	Joan Cox	Employee parking Caledonia.
03:02:13.65	Joan Cox	Sewer consolidation.
03:02:18.86	Joan Cox	EOC MOU, joint EOC MOU.
03:02:25.58	Ian Sobieski	Yes. So I didn't put, where is it up there? I'll just say money reserve policies.
03:02:35.92	Ian Sobieski	property lease philosophies.
03:02:38.66	Joan Cox	It's unanimous.
03:02:39.33	Ian Sobieski	Nexus study infrastructure, RFP.
03:02:44.09	Ian Sobieski	Yeah, let me take that off because I didn't have any of my...
03:02:46.98	Ian Sobieski	I also took, well, I only mean, I also took the bid off because that's already on. I mean, it wasn't in my list or presumably anyone else's. And so did, there in the bottom right, the bid's already on the calendar. Great, so the comprehensive citywide plan.
03:03:05.86	Ian Sobieski	It was...
03:03:10.11	Ian Sobieski	launch of employee parking, Caledonia parking, hillside ordinance, and insurance carriers.
03:03:12.86	Scott Thornburg	I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE
03:03:21.97	Unknown	I'm gonna get it.
03:03:24.39	Chris Zapata	So can I ask all the staff people to line up? So if you're gonna read George, you'll be at the mic.
03:03:28.93	Unknown	Thank you.
03:03:28.94	Amy Haworth	So-
03:03:29.35	Amy Haworth	I'm going to go.
03:03:29.50	Chris Zapata	Thank you.
03:03:29.58	Amy Haworth	What are you going to do
03:03:31.51	Chris Zapata	I'm going to do mine and if you wanted departments to do theirs.
03:03:34.99	Amy Haworth	I'm having color issues.
03:03:37.08	Chris Zapata	Is that what I expected, Amy, that just me or you want the departments?
03:03:41.40	Amy Haworth	All of them. If they don't want to, if it matches, you don't have to. But if you have something else, I'd like you to bring it forward.
03:03:41.95	Chris Zapata	Yeah.
03:03:47.52	Chris Zapata	Yeah, okay. It'll be quick.
03:03:49.34	Chris Zapata	a Nexus study in infrastructure RFP.
03:03:55.98	Chris Zapata	money reserve policy,
03:03:59.49	Chris Zapata	Dorothy Gibson House Implementation.
03:04:03.47	Chris Zapata	property, lease philosophy, hillside ordinance,
03:04:09.44	Chris Zapata	odds review.
03:04:11.86	Chris Zapata	He'll say word in it.
03:04:11.89	Joan Cox	It's halfway down. There you go.
03:04:16.40	Joan Cox	It's already on the calendar, that's why, yeah.
03:04:16.41	Chris Zapata	Yeah.
03:04:18.86	Chris Zapata	And then odds review, hillside ordinance, I mean.
03:04:22.88	Joan Cox	She did, she put a zero.
03:04:24.48	Chris Zapata	Sewer consolidation.
03:04:30.54	Joan Cox	I'm not sure about that.
03:04:32.39	Joan Cox	It was Abbott.
03:04:34.62	Abbott Chambers	Abbott Chambers
03:04:35.97	Abbott Chambers	Thank you.
03:04:36.11	Abbott Chambers	Yeah.
03:04:36.93	Abbott Chambers	City librarian and director of communications. My eight catastrophic insurance carriers.
03:04:44.49	Abbott Chambers	Joint EOC and MOU approval.
03:04:48.29	Abbott Chambers	odds review.
03:04:50.84	Abbott Chambers	sewer consolidation.
03:04:53.67	Abbott Chambers	It's Dorothy Gibson house.
03:04:57.15	Abbott Chambers	Business improvement district.
03:05:00.19	Abbott Chambers	You had.
03:05:01.64	Unknown	Thank you.
03:05:03.33	Abbott Chambers	And money reserve policies. Thank you.
03:05:03.39	Unknown	Thank you.
03:05:08.00	Unknown	Take care.
03:05:09.62	Kathy Nikitas	Hello, I am Kathy Nikitas. I'm the Human Resources Manager, Money Reserve Policies.
03:05:16.13	Kathy Nikitas	Catastrophic Insurance Carriers, Dorothy Gibson House, Blood Plain Ordinance, Comprehensive Citywide Plan.
03:05:25.80	Kathy Nikitas	Oh, sorry.
03:05:27.00	Kathy Nikitas	Thank you.
03:05:27.88	Kathy Nikitas	Yeah.
03:05:29.97	Kathy Nikitas	Okay. And the last one was joint EOC and MOU approval. I did six top because that's what I felt.
03:05:39.93	Brendan Phipps	Good morning, Brendan Phipps, Community and Economic Development Director. My top eight are perhaps selfishly skewed towards CDD.
03:05:49.68	Brendan Phipps	I'm not.
03:05:49.87	Joan Cox	No way.
03:05:50.90	Joan Cox	No way.
03:05:51.49	Brendan Phipps	Okay, on my list, OzReview.
03:05:54.96	Joan Cox	Odds review.
03:05:55.08	Brendan Phipps	Odds Review.
03:05:57.26	Brendan Phipps	Conversation and direction on the BID.
03:06:01.00	Brendan Phipps	Nexus study.
03:06:04.13	Brendan Phipps	Nexus study and infrastructure.
03:06:07.37	Brendan Phipps	RFP, Dorothy Gibson House implementation,
03:06:10.94	Brendan Phipps	money reserve
03:06:12.33	Brendan Phipps	policies.
03:06:14.00	Brendan Phipps	options for potential catastrophic insurance carriers
03:06:18.10	Brendan Phipps	property lease philosophy, and sewer consolidation.
03:06:21.96	Brendan Phipps	Thank you.
03:06:26.50	SPEAKER_22	Okay. Kevin McGowan, Public Works. Is there a bingo?
03:06:29.86	Unknown	Ha ha ha.
03:06:30.75	SPEAKER_22	No.
03:06:32.98	SPEAKER_22	Okay, okay, okay. Money reserve policies.
03:06:38.01	SPEAKER_22	sewer consolidation, MOU consolidation with the district.
03:06:42.40	SPEAKER_22	Odds review.
03:06:45.62	SPEAKER_22	Dorothy Gibson House.
03:06:48.69	SPEAKER_22	Joint EOC and MOU approval.
03:06:54.55	SPEAKER_22	and revision to floodplain ordinance. Even though I don't know why this is here, we're not being required to do so, but if it's here, the federal government tells us we have to do it anyway.
03:07:01.08	Joan Cox	It's here.
03:07:02.23	Joan Cox	Right.
03:07:06.51	SPEAKER_22	Employee pay increase report.
03:07:10.93	Amy Haworth	I got that somewhere.
03:07:12.08	SPEAKER_22	It's right there where your finger is.
03:07:15.14	SPEAKER_22	And lastly, I have the Geologic Hazard Abatement District.
03:07:20.08	SPEAKER_22	Otherwise known as jihad.
03:07:22.73	Unknown	Yeah.
03:07:24.26	Unknown	Yeah, we do have to start by that. Okay. All right. All right.
03:07:28.06	Chad Hess	Chad Hess, Director of Finance, Money Reserve Policy.
03:07:32.18	Chad Hess	Yep. Property lease philosophy.
03:07:35.03	Chad Hess	Next to study infrastructure RFP.
03:07:37.78	Chad Hess	Sewer consolidation.
03:07:39.91	Chad Hess	comprehensive citywide plan.
03:07:42.35	Chad Hess	Hillside Ordinance, Dorothy Gibson House.
03:07:43.64	Joan Cox	Gibson House.
03:07:44.43	Joan Cox	Okay.
03:07:45.88	Joan Cox	I'm getting it. I'm getting it.
03:07:47.32	Chad Hess	And then employee parking.
03:07:48.62	Joan Cox	Hillside ordinance.
03:07:53.92	Chad Hess	Thank you.
03:07:58.96	Blaustein	Walford, Solarzahn, City Clerk.
03:08:01.14	Blaustein	uh
03:08:02.07	Blaustein	Brandon. Odds review.
03:08:05.12	Blaustein	property lease philosophies.
03:08:07.84	Blaustein	comprehensive citywide plan.
03:08:10.37	Blaustein	money reserve policies.
03:08:13.73	Unknown	Thank you.
03:08:15.25	Blaustein	Yeah.
03:08:16.46	Blaustein	Next is study and infrastructure RFP, conversation and direction on BID, launch a local employee parking program for Caledonia businesses, and Dorothy House implementation.
03:08:34.55	Joan Cox	We have a couple people on...
03:08:36.52	Joan Cox	Zoom. I don't know if they're going to participate.
03:08:39.17	Joan Cox	The chief. Didn't get the cards. The chief. Oh, they didn't get the cards.
03:08:41.33	Jill Hoffman	Um,
03:08:43.33	Jill Hoffman	City attorney and the chief would be nice to have.
03:08:46.65	Joan Cox	Thank you.
03:08:46.72	Jill Hoffman	Thank you.
03:08:46.80	Joan Cox	Yeah.
03:08:46.97	Jill Hoffman	Bye.
03:08:47.16	Joan Cox	Thank you.
03:08:48.44	Sergio	Yeah, I mean, I...
03:08:49.77	Sergio	I think the council received from me in the last several months, you know, an update of comprehensive items that I think the city should undertake for the purposes of risk management and for procurement of substitute insurance. I would say the city attorney's office priorities are solely on that list. Additionally, I do think.
03:09:08.75	Sergio	out of the items that are on your future agenda items, I think from the risk management perspective, the sewer consolidation item would be probably highest out of all of these.
03:09:22.25	Joan Cox	Yeah, we're nearly unanimous on that.
03:09:27.37	Unknown	You want me to go?
03:09:29.24	Unknown	Can you hear me?
03:09:31.89	Unknown	Okay. Joint EOC.
03:09:34.96	Unknown	Hillside ordinance.
03:09:36.87	Unknown	Dorothy Gibson House.
03:09:38.83	Unknown	money reserve policies.
03:09:41.04	Unknown	employee parking.
03:09:42.77	Unknown	employee pay
03:09:45.07	Unknown	increase report and the odds review.
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03:09:48.02	Joan Cox	parking.
03:09:50.72	Joan Cox	And Odds Review is on the right.
03:09:52.17	Amy Haworth	Cut it.
03:09:54.27	Amy Haworth	kind of
03:09:55.80	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
03:09:56.33	Unknown	Thank you.
03:09:57.15	Amy Haworth	All right.
03:09:59.30	Amy Haworth	All right, we are done with this. So the good news is it's pretty much like a lot of alignment. And the bad news, I think, and I'm not your student manager,
03:10:09.81	Amy Haworth	District City Manager,
03:10:11.99	Amy Haworth	That's it.
03:10:14.09	Amy Haworth	So,
03:10:15.87	Amy Haworth	So I think that
03:10:18.03	Joan Cox	Can you go to the mic? Sorry.
03:10:20.09	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
03:10:20.61	Joan Cox	Thank you.
03:10:20.63	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
03:10:20.66	Joan Cox	Thank you.
03:10:20.74	Joan Cox	The mic, the mic.
03:10:22.36	Amy Haworth	That's the money. It's also helpful.
03:10:22.68	Joan Cox	So that.
03:10:25.25	Joan Cox	So that people watching can hear.
03:10:25.35	Amy Haworth	So that-
03:10:28.08	Amy Haworth	No, I appreciate that. I'm so embarrassed. You guys have to all send an email to our mayor.
03:10:32.91	Amy Haworth	And tell him what I did because he'll be very embarrassed. I'm almost serious. So your mayor back in a minute. Okay. Yeah. No, seriously. Like.
03:10:41.20	Amy Haworth	Hey.
03:10:42.24	Amy Haworth	She kept forgetting to use her mic. It would be hilarious. Okay, so...
03:10:46.51	Amy Haworth	One of the things, so there's so much
03:10:50.80	Amy Haworth	There's a lot of consensus on your money reserve policy, your property lease
03:10:57.06	Amy Haworth	I'm tired. Philosophies.
03:10:58.76	Amy Haworth	Catastrophic Insurance Carrier, Nexus Study, Sewer Consolidation,
03:11:04.20	Amy Haworth	Dorothy Gibson House. There's still a lot of support for other things like the BID, the GAD.
03:11:12.31	Amy Haworth	Um,
03:11:18.05	Amy Haworth	Yeah.
03:11:19.17	Amy Haworth	Hillside ordinance, which sounds like it's a government mandate and Caledonia parking and bid. So that stuff is again, none of this is going away.
03:11:27.38	Amy Haworth	But-
03:11:28.55	Amy Haworth	And a couple of them are on your future agenda. So that's great. Like odds, we can take that off. It's on there.
03:11:36.02	Amy Haworth	But-
03:11:38.23	Amy Haworth	These are big.
03:11:40.09	Amy Haworth	items.
03:11:41.64	Amy Haworth	Right. So I know I'm not trying to
03:11:45.41	Amy Haworth	be patronizing or matronizing actually,
03:11:48.17	Amy Haworth	You know, it's like, you understand, I think, but the money reserve policy, so you can
03:11:53.89	Amy Haworth	Ask staff to come back to you with some ideas on it, but it's going to that's going to be a discussion amongst you. And I'm guessing.
03:12:00.22	Amy Haworth	That's going to be a long discussion.
03:12:02.77	Amy Haworth	Maybe, maybe not. Property lease philosophies, that's gonna be a long discussion. What I think,
03:12:11.04	Amy Haworth	It's helpful for staff.
03:12:13.35	Amy Haworth	Is what is the information you need in order to make the right decision?
03:12:18.48	Amy Haworth	And maybe they give you all of that.
03:12:20.42	Amy Haworth	But you all might need different
03:12:22.51	Amy Haworth	decision, you know, information. I have a council member every single time. I don't care what it is. He says, what are other cities doing in the area?
03:12:30.78	Amy Haworth	or about this issue.
03:12:32.59	Amy Haworth	That's his voice. He's like my best friend, so I can do it.
03:12:35.41	Amy Haworth	But-
03:12:36.30	Amy Haworth	I told Steph, why wouldn't you just include that every single time?
03:12:40.59	Amy Haworth	And then he's not going to ask the question.
03:12:42.70	Amy Haworth	So like for property lease philosophies, I bet you that there are other communities who have these, right? Because there's, and so bring those forward and they may not meet your, they may not meet your visions. Right.
03:12:54.54	Amy Haworth	But I would say that when you're doing these things, these are big things that will take, because it's philosophy of it and it's a policy, it's a lot of discussion and it's a lot of research for staff, but even bigger,
03:13:06.08	Amy Haworth	Your Nexus study and infrastructure RFP, right?
03:13:09.33	Amy Haworth	perhaps getting the RFP out's not
03:13:13.10	Amy Haworth	It's still a big lift, am I right?
03:13:15.67	Amy Haworth	Careful.
03:13:17.04	Amy Haworth	But, and when that comes back, I mean, that's a big ticket item.
03:13:20.41	Amy Haworth	But that is you guys all mentioned infrastructure, right? And this is your facilities assessment, I'm assuming, or infrastructure assessment?
03:13:27.89	Amy Haworth	See, this is what, you know, I've done it. We have done this and it really helped us a lot, but it's really expensive. And you may need a consultant to do it. Um,
03:13:36.27	Amy Haworth	And I want to say, I'm not trying to tout my own horn. Toot it, tout it myself, whatever.
03:13:43.75	Amy Haworth	There are things that you need a consultant for because you're a small city and you don't have staff capacity.
03:13:50.13	Amy Haworth	And for the public, I want you to understand when you hire a consultant, guess what? It's not a burden. You're not paying them health insurance. You're not paying them long term. You know, it's not a long term staffer.
03:14:00.52	Amy Haworth	Um,
03:14:01.43	Amy Haworth	This is my, I've been doing this for 20 years. Don't fall into the trap that all consultants are bad. Some of us are, but not all of them.
03:14:08.07	Amy Haworth	Okay, so sewer consolidation. Now that's really difficult, right?
03:14:13.13	Amy Haworth	Because now that's negotiations with that district, correct?
03:14:17.60	Amy Haworth	And there's probably infrastructure that goes into that as well, right?
03:14:22.06	Amy Haworth	So these are not a one, we're going to get all this done this year.
03:14:26.27	Joan Cox	Well, but sewer consolidation has been in process since 2020. I believe that. And so...
03:14:32.28	Joan Cox	you know, a lot of that work has already been done. That's fantastic. And it was part of our strategic plan for 2020. So-
03:14:35.05	Amy Haworth	That's fantastic.
03:14:35.47	Janelle Bonnicksen	Thank you.
03:14:39.77	Joan Cox	Okay, Janelle? I defer to Janelle.
03:14:40.10	Janelle Bonnicksen	Okay, Janelle.
03:14:41.67	Janelle Bonnicksen	Yeah, so the beauty of these things is that they are all interrelated, right? And so I would love to hear your thoughts and my council's thoughts on
03:14:50.19	Janelle Bonnicksen	next six months, we do one of these a night plus one other thing. I mean, we've been going to 11, went to midnight almost the other night.
03:14:57.73	Janelle Bonnicksen	We take plenty of time up and we're pretty chock loaded. What if we just said like, these are the top six things and the next six months we're looking at them over and over again until we finish them. Is that a reasonable way to cut through?
03:15:13.49	Janelle Bonnicksen	these things that we actually have a lot of agreement on.
03:15:16.17	Amy Haworth	Well, I'm sorry, Ms. Ramirez, I wanted
03:15:19.80	Amy Haworth	See, I can interrupt because I'm going to leave.
03:15:22.05	Amy Haworth	Yeah, thank you. You did it. I think that's I mean, I want to hear from your colleagues. And when I'm talking about a heavy lift. I'm also talking about staff work, but it's it's true and and but also identifying if we put this on the meeting, we probably shouldn't put on this other item that's also
03:15:38.92	Amy Haworth	a lot of community involvement, so there'll be 30
03:15:41.42	Amy Haworth	you know, comments about this other project that's and that's agenda management that, you know, you have people doing. Go ahead, Mr. Mayor. Sorry.
03:15:48.78	Ian Sobieski	That more or less articulates what I was just going to say. First off, the list we just saw isn't comprehensive because there are a lot of things currently on the calendar. So some things may have to get pushed to accommodate these. And also, we do definitely have a whole cycle with our CEO, with our city manager, to ensure that things are ready to be put on the calendar. I think there is a...
03:16:09.04	Ian Sobieski	I've noticed they
03:16:10.09	Ian Sobieski	Sometimes things go on the counter before they're really ready for decisions. And it's just something Jill really advocates for is that they be ready to decide so that we don't keep hearing things over and over again. Like, let's be sure. The ask is, I think, from this list is this is Chris said, I've got a too long list. Let's pare it down.
03:16:27.03	Ian Sobieski	and we're helping pare it down and then we're asking him to get them ready. And when they're ready, they should go on the agenda as soon as they can, sort of period.
03:16:36.33	Amy Haworth	So-
03:16:38.17	Amy Haworth	Let me talk a little bit about some next steps because you still...
03:16:43.92	Amy Haworth	You know, you're going to have things that are going to come up
03:16:46.27	Amy Haworth	day to day meeting to meeting, right, you're going to have
03:16:49.43	Amy Haworth	I mean,
03:16:50.79	Amy Haworth	There's a lot.
03:16:52.45	Amy Haworth	It's hard to manage this, right? But I think your idea is
03:16:56.51	Amy Haworth	With...
03:16:57.83	Amy Haworth	the city manager's
03:17:00.51	Amy Haworth	Expertise.
03:17:02.03	Amy Haworth	You're the top six in
03:17:04.38	Amy Haworth	But I will write this all up and I will submit it to all of you, work with your city. I will help it so it's not just a bunch of my chicken scratches, right?
03:17:13.83	Amy Haworth	Um,
03:17:14.98	Amy Haworth	But I think it's okay to say we want to have these discussions.
03:17:19.45	Amy Haworth	At the Council level, we may make direction
03:17:22.62	Amy Haworth	Now staff me
03:17:24.04	Amy Haworth	not start working on it until they finish this hillside policy, which is mandated by the federal government, which has to be done by June 30th. I'm making that up.
03:17:32.03	Amy Haworth	Right. So,
03:17:33.62	Amy Haworth	I think working with the city manager on the calendar,
03:17:37.05	Amy Haworth	And we want to have some of these discussions. I think like your city manager, you don't do you have to discuss the insurance thing or is that something your city manager is trying to make happen?
03:17:48.74	Joan Cox	There are huge financial implications. So it's a council decision.
03:17:50.80	Amy Haworth	So it's.
03:17:52.30	Amy Haworth	Oh, I see. Right. So when they come forward and they say, right. So, okay. Got it. Got it. Thank you for that.
03:17:59.12	Amy Haworth	Does that make sense that I agree, Janelle, like you don't want to lose this, right? You don't want to lose what you guys have discussed.
03:18:06.82	Amy Haworth	But.
03:18:08.33	Amy Haworth	So it's one thing to have the discussion, but it's up to him and the staff and the timing. Because you also have the budget coming. Go ahead, Mr. C. Manager, I can see.
03:18:15.10	Chris Zapata	Thank you.
03:18:15.17	Chris Zapata	Well, thanks. So the way the agenda is constructed is a mixed bag. You know, staff brings things forward. Council puts things on a list. You have agenda setting committee, which then takes and works with city staff, city attorney, city clerk, and myself to put an agenda out. And so what's been done today is really hit three themes that are no different than they've been for the last two years. Our infrastructure, our finances, what's missing is personnel because its staff is now stable. Labor contracts are in place, but what's come new is insurance. And so in my mind, the exercise of watching people think from the five council people and hearing the priorities, which frankly mirror mine, you know, that that's a good, that's a good push so that when the agenda setting committee does meet, they will have the benefit of this kind of a conversation to say, yeah, you know, we need to work on a hillside ordinance, not put it out into, you know, the ether. We need to work on a reserve policy. So for me, just the six, seven things that staff has put together, but with the council's real thought process is helpful to develop future agendas. So I'm really pleased and thank you, but I do wanna point out the themes are the same, infrastructure, finance.
03:19:33.65	Amy Haworth	And resiliency, yes, Janelle.
03:19:34.75	Janelle Bonnicksen	Thank you.
03:19:35.58	Janelle Bonnicksen	Thank you.
03:19:36.02	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
03:19:36.03	Janelle Bonnicksen	So my suggestion might be, and we've talked about limits of the Brown Act, my suggestion might be,
03:19:42.01	Janelle Bonnicksen	to make each of these a standing item that we rotate through, we can have a discussion around
03:19:47.68	Janelle Bonnicksen	the Geologic Hazard Bateman District, the upcoming engineering report, and the Hillside Ordinance without a lengthy staff report. We all know something about those issues today. And what we're trying to develop is policy. And so it's going to take many, many conversations. But what is our philosophy around risk mitigation through a Hillside Ordinance? What is our philosophy around devoting monies towards a geologic hazard assessment? Something that at least begins to vet the conversation, more like a study session for the council, right? So that when we have a meeting, council has more direction, staff has more direction, because I agree with the city manager that we're hitting on finance and infrastructure, but this is the first time we're actually giving some specifics, right? And I want to keep us focused on resolving these things. And they're going to take a lot of lift. And I know we have housing issues, EIR stuff. We have a streets program we have to finalize. We have risk mitigation that we're going to have to evaluate. But I think if we keep coming back to these with some level of specificity, what it will do is it will stop us from adding on other projects that we get excited about, which are fun and exciting and have other value and may make us happy. But at least stay with these because we're saying today, we all agree these are really important. So I want to make sure...
03:20:14.64	Jill Teasdale	Thank you.
03:20:14.68	Unknown	I'm sorry.
03:20:14.71	Jill Teasdale	the
03:20:14.90	Jill Teasdale	I don't know.
03:21:03.04	Janelle Bonnicksen	Stay with us.
03:21:03.44	Amy Haworth	We stay with that. Mr. Mayor, were you going to or Joan and then Mr. Mayor?
03:21:03.50	Janelle Bonnicksen	I'll see you next time.
03:21:09.05	Joan Cox	Something that the mayor and I had proposed early in the year is to schedule a couple of workshop meetings for the council. And outside of our normal Tuesday evening schedule. And the purpose of those is to advance some of these more complicated, big picture, overview thinking types of projects that are really difficult to distill within the confines of an already full evening agenda.
03:21:37.04	Unknown	That's great.
03:21:37.42	Joan Cox	And so I wanted to raise that concept again. Not every council member is enthusiastic about that concept.
03:21:45.40	Joan Cox	prospect, but I think
03:21:47.41	Joan Cox	You know, given that we really have a lot of alignment
03:21:51.18	Joan Cox	on some really big
03:21:53.63	Joan Cox	you know, picture items like sewer consolidation and how do we negotiate that we get treated fairly as the other agencies who are members of this sewer agency are. And, you know, as what Janelle just mentioned about the GAD plus the, you know, the hillside ordinance, the floodplain ordinance, I see some really some commonalities that we could,
03:21:56.84	Amy Haworth	And have a great day.
03:22:05.04	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
03:22:05.07	Amy Haworth	really tough.
03:22:19.35	Joan Cox	um,
03:22:20.75	Joan Cox	pull together and
03:22:23.25	Joan Cox	do a couple of meetings, a couple of workshops where we could really get a lot done, give clear direction to staff to really streamline their efforts to advance these projects. So that's, I wanted to raise the prospect of that again.
03:22:32.93	Amy Haworth	advance.
03:22:35.99	Amy Haworth	prospect of that again. I'm writing that down. Mr. Mayor? I haven't spoken yet, so...
03:22:39.18	Ian Sobieski	Yeah, yeah.
03:22:39.70	Jill Teasdale	I'm going to check it.
03:22:40.10	Ian Sobieski	Thank you.
03:22:41.14	Jill Teasdale	Oh.
03:22:43.46	Jill Teasdale	I don't know.
03:22:43.50	Amy Haworth	I did see-
03:22:43.61	Jill Teasdale	I did see it. I'm talking about this section though.
03:22:45.34	Amy Haworth	THE FAMILY.
03:22:45.42	Amy Haworth	.
03:22:45.47	Jill Teasdale	Go ahead, whatever.
03:22:46.01	Amy Haworth	I'll get you, I promise, because I did see his hand. That's on me. Sorry. Go ahead, Mr. Mayor.
03:22:50.25	Ian Sobieski	Yeah, I second that.
03:22:52.88	Ian Sobieski	instinct of having some meetings for that purpose outside of our regular schedule.
03:22:57.98	Ian Sobieski	Thank you.
03:22:58.74	Ian Sobieski	And I'm also just cognizant that the idea that we set a criteria that we hear things when they're actually decisions to be made is important. I feel like the workshop, a separate kind of meeting for brainstorming, pathfinding is helpful and we can't always make a decision so we do continue matters from time to time but I do feel like the clarifying exercise for staff is to
03:23:27.34	Ian Sobieski	have the expectation that staff will help us narrow the decision so we're more clear about what we're deciding and that their actual decision points to move things forward. Rather than
03:23:39.05	Ian Sobieski	Thank you.
03:23:39.08	Unknown	Right.
03:23:39.61	Ian Sobieski	chit chat sessions or merely updates. I do think there's another argument though for having a citywide dashboard on major projects where anyone can check the status of things that can be updated by staff. What is the status of the consumer sewer consolidation? Yeah.
03:23:57.65	Amy Haworth	That sounds like another thing to add to a list and that's fine, but that's a project.
03:24:03.94	Amy Haworth	So Jill.
03:24:05.83	Jill Teasdale	So, yeah, I thought we were going to talk about the proposed workshops at the next thing on the agenda, which is how it's agendized, about future agenda items and the proposed Saturday workshops, the three more Saturday workshops. So, yeah.
03:24:22.13	Jill Teasdale	you know, and today's a really good example about why you should be cautious about
03:24:26.28	Jill Teasdale	City Council regular well special city council meetings outside of the normal schedule. So we have three people for sorry, seven people here.
03:24:35.87	Jill Teasdale	In the meeting today, we have four people online. This is wildly below what our normal attendance is.
03:24:41.94	Jill Teasdale	at city council meetings. So I'm not against workshopping things. I'm not against at all
03:24:47.24	Jill Teasdale	saying on the agenda, you know, we're going to have a discussion about whatever it is.
03:24:52.56	Jill Teasdale	But
03:24:53.59	Jill Teasdale	I feel like my experience is that when you devote
03:24:57.16	Jill Teasdale	four hours on a Saturday morning, you start at eight o'clock on a Saturday morning.
03:25:01.50	Jill Teasdale	I value the time with my family
03:25:04.45	Jill Teasdale	highly. And I value the time of the staff members
03:25:07.56	Jill Teasdale	Time with their families, very high. Chad flew in today for this meeting.
03:25:11.73	Kathy Nikitas	Oh.
03:25:12.01	Jill Teasdale	We haven't had a finance report from Chad. So why is Chad here? So that's a huge waste of time and energy for him to fly in for this meeting. So when you have an unfocused discussion, you know, does it merit anybody getting up on a Saturday morning and sacrificing that time? I mean, that's just my perspective, right? But
03:25:32.28	Jill Teasdale	That's also the perspective of my husband.
03:25:34.86	Jill Teasdale	Karen Hollweg, quite clearly, and so I think we can do that we have I think we have to be disciplined about doing city work during regularly scheduled meetings so that people don't have to hunt for when we're doing substantive things. Karen Hollweg, We also have to be very clear about what's on our agenda for that meeting so people can prepare.
03:25:53.32	Jill Teasdale	and they show up and we know what our time management is for the meeting.
03:25:57.37	Jill Teasdale	Like I said, I'm not against discussions. I think today there has been some value, has it been four and a half hours worth of value? I don't know. But I think this last...
03:26:06.37	Jill Teasdale	hour and a half has been helpful for our, definitely for our city manager, as he said, I think for all of us too, and especially looking to see how we just naturally align on certain priorities.
03:26:14.47	Jill Teasdale	But that's why I'm principally against doing things that are outside
03:26:20.00	Jill Teasdale	our normal city council schedule, because I think that makes, that creates confusion amongst our, you know, the citizens in Sausalito. Great.
03:26:31.63	Amy Haworth	Right.
03:26:31.80	Amy Haworth	Right.
03:26:32.56	Amy Haworth	So,
03:26:33.96	Amy Haworth	And thank you for being able to, I realize the agenda today has been a little bit, uh,
03:26:40.54	Amy Haworth	But I think that there were some interesting
03:26:43.88	Amy Haworth	I think it's, I think it's, well, it doesn't matter if I think it's useful, but I think that you're right in general, if you're having a workshop, let's say it's on sewer consolidation, you better have a, I mean, it's a normal, like hosted city council agenda with the staff report with everything attached.
03:27:04.84	Amy Haworth	Now, another way to do it
03:27:06.98	Amy Haworth	is to have like the off Tuesday. You guys meet on Tuesdays or Wednesdays? OK, Tuesdays have. So we're first and third. So tomorrow or not.
03:27:17.46	Amy Haworth	Tuesday is a special workshop on our work plan. So we're having it on the off Tuesday. That might help because I agree. Saturdays are rough.
03:27:24.82	Amy Haworth	And in
03:27:27.64	Amy Haworth	I'm actually surprised you have this many people. It's amazing. Sausalito impresses the heck out of me. Go ahead, Janelle. And then I'm sorry. Go ahead. Yeah. I'm just responding to hands.
03:27:36.08	Jill Hoffman	That's okay. So I tend to echo Councilmember Hoffman's sentiment about Saturday morning meetings. And also just a reminder that many of us also have full time jobs in a workload in addition to our volunteer capacity. Well, mostly volunteer, we do get
03:27:53.52	Jill Hoffman	a stipend on the council. And obviously if there's an urgency or a need to make a decision, we all show up and we support each other in that way. And we want to be as supportive as possible to meeting the goals. I mean, I would love to be as supportive as possible of supporting Mayor Sobieski's agenda this year, but being mindful of people's respect, their time with their family or staff's time with their family is really important. And I want to acknowledge that. And I also was thinking throughout the course of this conversation, because there are a lot of things on the future agenda items that matter to all of us that we might not get to and good points were made as well.
03:28:28.59	Jill Hoffman	around
03:28:30.40	Jill Hoffman	you know, that's something you engage with community organizations around Sausalito Beautiful, or you might work with Sausalito Foundation. So I would maybe suggest that in our part of our meetings where we give committee reports, we might also include initiative reports so that we can share out and say, you know, this was on future agenda items. I want to let you know, this is what I've done without staff time or whatever. So folks are aware and you can still talk about what you're doing in your capacity as a council member in a somewhat formal way without having to formally agendize it.
03:29:00.25	Janelle Bonnicksen	I like that a lot, the initiative reports.
03:29:03.34	Janelle Bonnicksen	I just want to make two comments. One is, I'm just going to push us to stay rigorous and try to handle city business during regular city meetings. If we can't do that, then we're not being efficient in our meetings. And what happens is then we fill the meetings with things that aren't our top six. So, you know, I...
03:29:22.30	Janelle Bonnicksen	That would be my argument for trying to get everything done on the Tuesday nights where we're scheduled. The second piece of it is I just want to acknowledge that we have staff here, and we have five or six items where there is –
03:29:33.19	Janelle Bonnicksen	a majority, almost a unanimous agreement that those are the items we should be working on.
03:29:37.32	Janelle Bonnicksen	And if staff doesn't have time to work on them, then perhaps we need to be informed of what is staff working on. So there's a disconnect. We don't fully understand what staff is doing. And maybe staff would like to, you know, kind of shift some priorities. There's just something there.
03:29:52.70	Amy Haworth	I hear a go ahead, John. Sorry.
03:29:54.84	Joan Cox	I just wanted to dovetail on what Janelle said. I am so grateful to have our staff here. And I think it's a really important team building opportunity for staff to see what our priorities are and how highly we value staff. And we don't often just have the opportunity to say that as we're addressing our individual agenda items on the dais. And so I realize it's an imposition to ask people to come in on a Saturday morning, but we typically do this once a year, our strategic planning session.
03:30:25.94	Joan Cox	And I'm grateful for the staff participation and I know I
03:30:31.02	Joan Cox	as an employee, I'm always grateful to see how my leaders perceive the world and what's important. And it's an opportunity for better collaboration and better understanding by them of why we're asking of them the things we're asking of them, but also the high regard and respect that we have for them to not try to overtax them. So I just want to acknowledge and thank the staff as well as the community, of course, for participating with us today.
03:30:37.50	Scott Thornburg	Yeah.
03:30:37.62	Scott Thornburg	Yeah.
03:30:53.36	Amy Haworth	Yeah.
03:31:00.15	Amy Haworth	So what I hear, and it's not for me to say, yes, you have to meet on Saturday or off Tuesdays. You guys are gonna figure that out. But it's important that you all opined on that.
03:31:10.35	Amy Haworth	I guess one of the reasons that and I heard, you know, the subcommittee talking
03:31:15.00	Amy Haworth	Because your meetings go so long,
03:31:17.22	Amy Haworth	Uh,
03:31:18.02	Amy Haworth	is why maybe a separate like more workshop-y thing
03:31:21.73	Amy Haworth	And I'm not, again, I'm not saying yes, no.
03:31:25.27	Amy Haworth	But what you do need to consider, and again, I go back to governance, is your meeting shouldn't go to midnight.
03:31:31.99	Amy Haworth	Nothing good happens after
03:31:35.55	Amy Haworth	I say 10. I used to say 11, I was younger then. And we actually have something on our council, our council policy is if it's about to be 10 o'clock, we won't start a new item unless we all vote on it.
03:31:47.68	Amy Haworth	And
03:31:49.28	Amy Haworth	And it's enforced discipline, you know, and we wrap ourselves, we actually, you know, they will say, Amy, you talked already.
03:31:56.09	Amy Haworth	There's something new. I mean, I'll say that we're so close, right? And then whatever, but
03:32:01.40	Amy Haworth	So I want you to consider, because you have, some of these things are gonna be things that you're gonna have to talk about, like philosophies and policies.
03:32:08.86	Amy Haworth	I think that
03:32:11.22	Amy Haworth	You know,
03:32:12.27	Amy Haworth	What I see across the state,
03:32:14.73	Amy Haworth	in all districts, staffs, whether they've been there for 30 years or just new,
03:32:21.13	Amy Haworth	COVID, everyone's still digging out of COVID, frankly, and this backlog, right? And what I see though, I don't see anyone making an excuse. I don't see that. But I do think that there probably needs to be
03:32:34.29	Amy Haworth	more communication on a regular basis, here's what
03:32:38.49	Amy Haworth	staff is working on here's the capacity
03:32:40.96	Amy Haworth	These projects that are proposed are
03:32:43.24	Amy Haworth	easy, medium, hard, or whatever the thing is. And so I have internal recommendations too that I think could help.
03:32:49.56	Amy Haworth	And I think you guys can handle it.
03:32:52.50	Amy Haworth	Um,
03:32:53.95	Amy Haworth	I wanna know,
03:32:55.17	Amy Haworth	We're going to go to public comment really soon. Oh, yeah. We're going to go to public comment really soon. Yes, sir?
03:33:00.19	Ian Sobieski	Well, I was just going to articulate that, and again, we haven't resolved the question, but if we constrain ourselves to end by 10 and only keep the regular schedule and have unlimited speaking time as members of the council and unlimited Q&A time, that something's got to give in that.
03:33:18.00	Ian Sobieski	formulation and
03:33:20.55	Ian Sobieski	I'm just cognizant of it. Yeah.
03:33:22.25	Ian Sobieski	And
03:33:23.06	Ian Sobieski	And so that's something we have to wrestle with. And it's, you know, our first year, I know we can adapt by to the needs, but something's got to give in that formulation. And if we have a, that means we might be leaving money on the table, something if we literally run out of time and don't have five minutes to spend on something. Yeah, that could have a big...
03:33:41.60	Unknown	Do it.
03:33:42.42	Ian Sobieski	But it keeps piling up because we have so many things and so many priorities and a limited amount of time. Now, I'm a proponent of the idea that work fills the time allotted, so I generally like to keep things tight, but I'm also cognizant of that tension. I just wanted to articulate that.
03:33:57.49	Amy Haworth	I haven't watched your meetings yet.
03:34:00.77	Amy Haworth	I'd say it's a meeting management issue, though, too.
03:34:03.26	Amy Haworth	And I think that that's an internal control that you guys can work on. Have you guys watched your meetings? Do you guys ever go back and watch your meetings? I'm so sorry.
03:34:11.15	Amy Haworth	Yeah.
03:34:11.83	Amy Haworth	Yeah, okay, that's good. I do, I want to go, but I want you to understand that I am going to be providing summaries and a report to all of you.
03:34:22.24	Amy Haworth	of what's been said, what you decided upon. From where I stand, I see what's exciting is the consensus, because I heard from one of you in our one-on-one talks, hey, we really need this money reserve policy. But I heard from all of you, all of you, that we need that. So that's really great.
03:34:39.55	Amy Haworth	Um,
03:34:40.87	Amy Haworth	You know, I'd love five minutes at the end to just with some housekeeping, but do you wanna go to public comment right now?
03:34:47.10	Ian Sobieski	Oh, yes, but go ahead.
03:34:48.95	Ian Sobieski	City manager.
03:34:49.59	Amy Haworth	And I can clean up my stuff.
03:34:50.66	Chris Zapata	If I can, I want to say my last words for the evening and thank everybody for being our public staff and council. We didn't get to the financial discussion, but it's important. And that financial information is online for the public to view. It's a work in progress. People need to understand finances have a lot of variables in our budgets and the working group of Mayor Sobieski, Councilmember Hoffman, and former Mayor Withey working with Chad. It's a work in progress. but what we've got so far is online for the public to view. The second thing, I really want to thank you for your 90-10 slide. Thank you.
03:35:14.62	Scott Thornburg	Thank you.
03:35:14.75	Scott Thornburg	They will.
03:35:24.16	Adrian Brinton	you
03:35:24.26	Adrian Brinton	Thank you.
03:35:24.36	Chris Zapata	Amy, I mean, for the public to understand everything you see in a council meeting is everything that's going on at City Hall. So thank you for that. And thank you for your time.
03:35:24.49	Adrian Brinton	And,
03:35:26.82	Adrian Brinton	Beth loves that.
03:35:27.50	Amy Haworth	you
03:35:33.25	Amy Haworth	You're so welcome.
03:35:34.33	Chris Zapata	and,
03:35:35.65	Amy Haworth	All right, I'm going to move some of my stuff here, but go for it.
03:35:38.67	Ian Sobieski	So we'll do public comment and we are adjourning in honor of something I want to commemorate. So let's have a formal adjournment, but we're opening the floor for public comment.
03:35:51.24	Blaustein	Okay, so any members of the public that would like to comment right now? Okay, great. Go for it. You have two minutes. Yes.
03:35:51.32	Ian Sobieski	Okay.
03:35:51.98	Sybil Boutillier	to be able to do it.
03:36:04.79	Unknown	I actually have some questions besides my comment, but it's interesting that in the last five minutes, the topic that I wanted to talk about was brought up, and that's communication.
03:36:18.32	Unknown	And communication is so important and I see
03:36:22.24	Unknown	where there are gaps.
03:36:24.42	Unknown	And one of the biggest gaps is with the public.
03:36:29.21	Unknown	Now, I live across the street in HUD housing.
03:36:33.41	Unknown	At one time, I'm 83 years old, I still am,
03:36:37.17	Unknown	But at one time I was the youngest person in that complex.
03:36:43.26	Unknown	A lot of people don't have computers. They don't have smartphones.
03:36:47.09	Unknown	They can't be on Zoom presentations. They don't get any information at all.
03:36:52.11	Unknown	about what
03:36:53.78	Unknown	What's in the meeting, what's going to be discussed.
03:36:56.58	Unknown	or
03:36:57.74	Unknown	You have very few people here Saturday.
03:36:59.99	Unknown	I just found out about it last night at the library presentation.
03:37:04.85	Unknown	So I'm encouraging you to look into
03:37:07.72	Unknown	What can be done?
03:37:09.50	Unknown	to reach out to all of the community
03:37:13.50	Unknown	all of the community, not just those that have computers and smartphones.
03:37:17.79	Unknown	not those that have mobility
03:37:20.41	Unknown	or cars.
03:37:22.13	Unknown	The other problem I can see is
03:37:24.62	Unknown	here with parking. I don't know, I didn't realize
03:37:27.61	Unknown	Does your group do
03:37:29.60	Unknown	the parking decisions in this city.
03:37:33.03	Unknown	So whoever implemented this last thing on all these streets, parallel streets,
03:37:38.50	Unknown	of two hour parking.
03:37:41.05	Unknown	And then you have to have a permit at night or you get like a $60 ticket.
03:37:46.60	Unknown	A lot of the people have helpers.
03:37:49.03	Unknown	that come at night.
03:37:51.07	Unknown	to help them.
03:37:52.81	Unknown	Or the library puts on a program, 80 people showed up. Did they get tickets because they parked there? Or are there special arrangements?
03:38:00.84	Unknown	So I'm saying there are things that have not been thought out
03:38:04.28	Unknown	about the entire community.
03:38:08.20	Unknown	So,
03:38:09.78	Unknown	Can I say a couple more things?
03:38:13.92	Ian Sobieski	Sorry, the time limit is...
03:38:15.33	Unknown	Does anyone else want to speak?
03:38:17.66	Ian Sobieski	It's just being fair to everybody who spoke before and after. So there are other speakers. Thank you very much.
03:38:22.79	Unknown	I wanted to hear the answers to my questions.
03:38:25.86	Ian Sobieski	Yeah, I'm sorry. The protocol is just public comment. It's not a Q&A opportunity, but I'm sure that I'm available and I may happen to meet with you directly. Okay. So please stay after and I'll start with you and you can approach any of us. We're all equally willing to engage with you, madam.
03:38:33.34	Jill Teasdale	Thank you.
03:38:33.36	Unknown	Okay.
03:38:33.78	Jill Teasdale	All right.
03:38:33.80	Unknown	Thank you.
03:38:33.83	Jill Teasdale	All right.
03:38:35.43	Jill Teasdale	So I'll start with you and I, and yeah,
03:38:40.44	Ian Sobieski	Thank you very much. Ma'am though, could you state her name? What is your name for the record?
03:38:40.51	Jill Teasdale	Thank you very much. Ma'am though, could she state her name?
03:38:45.10	Ian Sobieski	sunshine.
03:38:48.86	Blaustein	Okay, I have no more speakers list, but if you want to come up and speak, go ahead and step forward.
03:38:57.12	Linda Fodge	I'm Linda Fodge and I'm exhausted just thinking about what your year is going to be like. I'm really impressed. I have new respect for all of you. I have a couple of really small issues and...
03:39:10.13	Linda Fodge	Certainly don't want to overburden staff with them. So I'm thinking that you should reach out to your identified resource list, which was the community. And I think that the community can step up and do some of these things and
03:39:23.93	Linda Fodge	Excuse me. The first one is technology.
03:39:26.68	Linda Fodge	We don't have internet downtown.
03:39:29.09	Linda Fodge	I think we have
03:39:30.70	Linda Fodge	technology experts in our community, people that live here. And I think if you reach out and
03:39:36.94	Linda Fodge	say, can you volunteer beyond this committee? I think that maybe they can solve these problems. The other one is public water access.
03:39:45.94	Linda Fodge	And, you know, we have Yichachi Park. We have our fallen down dock pier, whatever you want to call it. Again, I think you should reach out to the community. Maybe Melissa will swim in the bay for us again and raise some money. And here's some very wealthy people in the community that I think would step up and really help put some of these things together. And maybe volunteer laptops for the previous lady.
03:40:21.27	Vicki Nichols	Vicki Nichols, again, 117 Caledonia. Thank you for this session today. It's been good, especially the latter part, I think. And it gave us transparency of seeing how our individual council people prioritize what their wishes are, which we don't usually get to see. So that was great. Two things. One of all, I think it's important. We had a lot of discussion about the Sea Lion. That is sponsored by the Sausalito Foundation. I don't think the city is clear about who owns what in the city. Does the city own the Sea Lion or the foundation? The same thing with the anchor at the walkway by Spinnaker. There's going to be a project there. The same thing with these other organizations that say they're going to do this or that on infrastructure. That needs to be cleared up, hopefully.
03:41:07.81	Vicki Nichols	But I want to bring you back to your strategic plan as I went through it. And I want to remind you of ways that you can be advancing your strategic plan. Number one under vision on page five, the plan cultivates its natural beauty, history, and arts and waterfront culture. It's right in there, so I'm going to hammer that one. On page, the second one under your goals, page eight, number three,
03:41:31.51	Vicki Nichols	under a strategy, protect historic resources. So I'm going to keep coming back.
03:41:37.58	Vicki Nichols	as the commission, because I think it's now more clear than ever that these are legal options we have to protect these resources, and we had better get on it. Thanks very much.
03:41:52.52	Blaustein	We'll write up ahead.
03:41:55.86	Sharna Brockett	So I'm Sharna Brockett, and I just want to thank all of you.
03:42:01.17	Sharna Brockett	Can't even imagine how much time you put in or I've seen it, you know, I've just started
03:42:05.66	Sharna Brockett	looking and showing up and,
03:42:07.82	Sharna Brockett	I have just so much respect for you and the staff.
03:42:10.67	Sharna Brockett	And I just wanted to highlight that. Um,
03:42:13.46	Sharna Brockett	The 90, 10% rule and discussion was really helpful because there's so much going into just keeping the lights on and keeping us safe. And I just want to.
03:42:22.06	Sharna Brockett	Let you know I appreciate that.
03:42:24.09	Sharna Brockett	Um,
03:42:25.00	Sharna Brockett	And
03:42:25.83	Sharna Brockett	And all, you know, all the work that you've done, you know, not just this last year, but it's the last 10, 15 years. And we're starting to see the results of that. So I just want to acknowledge that.
03:42:35.06	Sharna Brockett	And I also want to say like,
03:42:37.22	Sharna Brockett	You know, my earlier statement, I was saying like, it's not that hard to get it done. You know, I know that's annoying if you've been in the trenches. And I just want to say that I need, I meant no disrespect. I'm just like, this was a great conversation. Like, how do we
03:42:49.00	Sharna Brockett	Just get things done and simplify the process. So that was really eye opening to me. So I just wanted to say I meant no disrespect and I really honor everything you're doing and I get it as somebody who likes to get stuff done. It can get complicated and the whole stories and everything. So I just wanted to say that.
03:43:03.75	Sharna Brockett	And then I'm with South Salud of Beautiful. I'm not the president, so I can't, you know, but we want some of the same things. So I think there's this group of really engaged people, volunteers. So yeah, let us, let's get aligned and let's see what, where our passion and what you need to get done align and let's, we're here to help. So thank you.
03:43:22.09	Blaustein	All right. Anybody else in the house?
03:43:25.09	Blaustein	All right, so we'll go to Zoom. We have Sybil Boutillier.
03:43:29.02	Sybil Boutillier	Thank you.
03:43:30.75	Sybil Boutillier	Oops.
03:43:32.58	Sybil Boutillier	I'm trying to start my video. Uh,
03:43:35.81	Sybil Boutillier	It's not.
03:43:36.99	Sybil Boutillier	Here we go.
03:43:38.66	Sybil Boutillier	So, oh, you can't see me anyway.
03:43:40.77	Sybil Boutillier	Um,
03:43:41.60	Sybil Boutillier	I just want to thank everybody for being here, giving up your Saturday morning.
03:43:45.90	Sybil Boutillier	And
03:43:47.77	Sybil Boutillier	I think this was very illuminating for both of us in the audience. And I listened to every word and thought it was very interesting.
03:43:59.15	Sybil Boutillier	I was surprised that the corporation unit was not on the list. I know it's been prioritized. We've had promises of money from the state and also from Marine Community Foundation.
03:44:12.83	Sybil Boutillier	to move forward with the housing if we can
03:44:15.35	Sybil Boutillier	find a way to I know folks have been working on it but
03:44:20.58	Sybil Boutillier	I would love to see that kept up in the,
03:44:24.68	Sybil Boutillier	you know, priorities of
03:44:28.95	Sybil Boutillier	because speed could be important here.
03:44:32.10	Sybil Boutillier	in terms of the funding that may be available.
03:44:35.68	Sybil Boutillier	Um,
03:44:36.84	Sybil Boutillier	And that has been suggested they would be available.
03:44:41.54	Sybil Boutillier	I just wanted to mention that housing is so important for us to
03:44:46.02	Sybil Boutillier	you know, keep in, um,
03:44:48.49	Sybil Boutillier	In the forefront of our thinking, we have a big lift there.
03:44:52.67	Sybil Boutillier	So that's just one of many things that you mentioned that wasn't mentioned, but so many things you did mention that are important. I wanna thank you all again.
03:45:02.33	Sybil Boutillier	for the time you put into this.
03:45:04.49	Sybil Boutillier	And for working with the community, there's a lot we're willing to do to help you.
03:45:09.63	Sybil Boutillier	And I hope you take advantage of that to the full extent. Thank you.
03:45:17.12	Blaustein	Okay, no further public comment.
03:45:21.43	Amy Haworth	Thank you.
03:45:22.85	Amy Haworth	I think that we're absolutely done.
03:45:25.72	Amy Haworth	with the first part of the process.
03:45:27.88	Amy Haworth	Um,
03:45:29.26	Amy Haworth	I, let's see.
03:45:32.84	Amy Haworth	Oh, God. Oh, I really am going to give you my mares. I'm going to give you. He'll love this. Again, really. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
03:45:41.51	Amy Haworth	It's really hard. It's really hard and it's going to be really useful. And I'm sorry, Chad, I didn't know you flew in. I would have like, you know, arms are hurt. But it's the beginning of a process. I'm, you know, always going to be available for you. That's kind of what I offer up. Like, you know, I'll be available by phone, by Zoom. I'll be talking to your city manager.
03:46:02.94	Amy Haworth	This is a very self-serving comment.
03:46:07.38	Amy Haworth	I will be sending around a quick survey. And, you know, I would really appreciate you taking five minutes to comment. And it doesn't have to be positive, whatever it is that you feel. But it really helps me do this better. And I just...
03:46:20.78	Amy Haworth	I care so much about local government. A couple of you said it. I really care about all of you in local government. It's a really hard job and it's entirely crucial. So I just want to really help the most people I can. So thank you. Thank you, staff. And thank you, community, for your time. You're a very special community.
03:46:39.27	Ian Sobieski	Thank you very much, Amy. Manhattan Beach is lucky to have you. Thanks for your time today. We would like to adjourn the meeting, but first I hope everyone enjoys the Super Bowl today around our local restaurant. No, the Super Bowl. The Super Bowl, S-O-U-P-E-R, put on by our Parks and Rec with the cooperation of our local restaurants. Hardest to get tickets around, even harder than the Super Bowl. People email me all week trying to get tickets to our Super Bowl, and they can't. So enjoy the Super Bowl. And the Super Bowl tomorrow, we don't have unanimity, apparently way of a Chiefs fan, which I'm not sure that's allowed, but go 49ers. and then I would like to adjourn today's meeting in commemoration of an important cultural event for many people around the world, the Lunar New Year celebration. 2024 is the year of the dragon. Take care of the rest of your weekend and take good care.
03:47:35.97	Unknown	Thank you.
03:47:35.99	Unknown	Right.
03:47:36.28	Unknown	Thank you.
03:47:38.74	Unknown	Right?
03:47:38.91	Ian Sobieski	Thank you.
03:47:38.93	Unknown	Thank you.
03:47:39.25	Unknown	Bye.
03:47:39.30	Unknown	Yeah.
03:47:39.40	Ian Sobieski	Thank you.
03:47:39.45	Unknown	Recording stopped

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