City Council Apr 15, 2025
City Council Meeting Summary
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00:00:26 | None: None | The City Clerk announced the start of the Sausalito City Council meeting on April 15th, held at City Hall and broadcast via Zoom, the city website, and cable TV channel 27. | No Motion | 0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral |
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00:00:42 | I: CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL - 5:15 PM | Mayor Cox called the special meeting to order (00:00:42). The City Clerk then proceeded to call the roll, noting the presence of Councilmember Blaustein (00:00:54), Councilmember Hoffman (00:00:57), Councilmember Sobieski (00:00:59), Vice Mayor Woodside (00:01:01). | No Motion | 0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral |
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00:01:04 | II: INTERVIEWS FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION - 5:15 PM | The council conducted interviews for the Planning Commission. Walt Lemmerman withdrew his name from consideration. The council interviewed two candidates: Bob Lalonde and Josh Richman. Bob Lalonde introduced himself, highlighting his background in architecture, planning, and urban infill development. He mentioned his experience with the San Francisco redevelopment advisory committee and his interest in good development (00:04:01). He discussed the opportunities for multifamily housing in Sausalito and the need for tasteful, right-sized development (00:05:52). The Mayor asked Bob about opportunities for multifamily housing in Sausalito. Bob also touched on the complexities of the housing element. Josh Richman introduced himself, emphasizing his experience in industrial and product design. He mentioned his involvement with the ODDS Views Committee and his focus on pragmatic methods for protecting views in the city (00:08:13). Councilmember Hoffman asked Josh about the ODDS program and his work with Sophia and Michael Rex. Josh explained the objective system they developed to protect views and identify opportunities for creative development (00:10:14). Councilmember Sobieski asked about technology solutions for planning problems. Joan Cox questioned Josh about his investment in resilience, sustainability, and long-term vitality. | No Motion | 1 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 1 Neutral |
00:14:07 | III.: CLOSED SESSION - 5:30 PM | The council convened for a closed session. Councilmember Hoffman raised a point of order regarding public comment, noting that the city attorney had advised that public comment could be taken on both the interviews for the planning commission and the consideration of appointments. City Clerk Joan Cox clarified that the agenda only mentioned public comment at the end under consider making appointments, stating that the reference to the interview process was removed. The City Attorney confirmed that it was acceptable to take public comment on the interviews, as it was listed on the agenda. Joan Cox clarified that the public comment period pertained to the appointment of a planning commissioner, but she would make an exception to allow for the public comment. (00:15:30) She then expressed that future agenda discussions should be shared with her in advance (00:15:47). | No Motion | 1 Total: 1 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral |
00:15:53 Chris White was In Favor: Chris White urged the council to extend Christina Felder's membership on the planning commission due to her extensive experience and knowledge regarding the Sausalito housing element. (00:16:25) He believes it would be a mistake not to involve her wisdom and background in addressing the crisis and controversy surrounding the housing element.
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00:17:31 | III: CLOSED SESSION - 5:30 PM | The council will be moving into a closed session to consider four items. The first two items, C1 and C2, involve conferences with legal counsel regarding anticipated litigation. C1 concerns the initiation of litigation for one case, while C2 concerns significant exposure to litigation for one case. | No Motion | 0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral |
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00:17:51 | III: CLOSED SESSION - 5:30 PM | The council will be entering into a closed session to discuss existing litigation, Sullivan versus City of Sausalito, and to confer with labor negotiators regarding the Sausalito Police Association. The council will reconvene at 7pm. (00:18:12) | No Motion | 0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral |
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00:18:42 | IV: RECONVENE TO OPEN SESSION - 7:00 PM | Mayor Cox reconvened the City Council meeting (00:18:43). The City Clerk called the roll. Councilmember Hoffman arrived late, after roll call, but before the Pledge (00:20:37). Mayor Cox corrected her announcement from the closed session, stating that item C2 had two cases instead of one, and that Councilmember Sobieski recused himself from one of the items in C2 (00:19:45). Mayor Cox announced that item 3b, the formula retail ordinance, would be continued to the next meeting, but public comment would still be taken (00:20:17). | Motion to approve the amended agenda (00:20:34). The motion carried 5-0 (00:20:43). | 0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral |
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00:21:24 | 1: SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS/MAYOR'S ANNOUNCEMENTS - 7:02 PM | The City Manager, Joan Cox, noted that an item was on the agenda for special presentations or Mayor's announcements, but the intended recipient was not present. | No Motion | 0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral |
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00:21:37 | 1.A: Proclamation Honoring the Career of Kent Basso | Mayor Cox read the proclamation honoring Kent Basso's 31 years of service to the city of Sausalito, highlighting his promotions and dedication to the community since starting as a Maintenance Worker 1 in 1995 (00:21:51). Public Works Director Kevin McGowan accepted the proclamation on Kent's behalf, who was out of town, noting Kent's love for his work and the people he worked with, as well as his extensive institutional knowledge (00:23:52). Carolyn Revell from Sausalito Beautiful expressed appreciation for Kent's support of their efforts to enhance the city's parks (00:24:54). | No Motion | 1 Total: 1 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral |
00:24:54 Carolyn Revell was In Favor: Speaking on behalf of Sausalito Beautiful, she expressed appreciation for Kent Basso's years of service, highlighting his support and partnership with their organization in enhancing the city's parks, and noting that he received their Little Willow Award in 2018 (00:25:16).
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00:25:51 | 1.B: Budget Presentation from the Department of Public Works | Director McGowan and his team (Pat Guasco, Ali, and Sarah Korshidafard) presented the Public Works budget to the City Council. The presentation covered who Public Works is (21 full-time equivalent positions across road maintenance, park maintenance, sanitary maintenance, and engineering) and what they do (maintain roadways, stair systems, parks, sewer collection, public facilities, and address tree issues, signal systems, and provide custodial services) (00:26:59), as well as acting as first responders in emergencies (00:28:56) and the lead agency for stormwater compliance (00:29:17). They utilize the Fix-It app, which allows residents to report issues with city property. Over 400 inquiries have been received with an average response time of six calendar days (00:31:28). Public Works is currently looking to backfill two positions and needs to replace older vehicles. The presentation also addressed the need for more space for the engineering division and the possibility of contracting on-call traffic and geotechnical engineers. McGowan suggested potential cost reductions by modifying municipal codes related to tree and sidewalk maintenance responsibilities, shifting responsibility to property owners (00:37:29). He also suggested developing a water supply for medians and parks (00:38:18). Sarah Korshidafard discussed the Capital Improvement Program (CIP) and funding needs, highlighting the complexity and time-consuming nature of developing the CIP (00:39:09). She mentioned that 22 CIP projects are expected to be completed by June 2025 (00:40:11) and discussed future goals and challenges, including workforce and equipment needs (00:42:47). Councilmember Blousting inquired about the sidewalk program and potential support for property owners to improve sidewalks (00:44:13). Councilmember Sobieski asked about the possibility of purchasing electric vehicles (00:46:07). The City Manager mentioned the need for more space for city employees (00:47:17). | No Motion | 0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral |
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00:47:57 | 2: COMMUNICATIONS - 7:45 PM | The Communications section of the meeting included several public comments. First, Paul King requested the council to put climate change on the agenda and focus on gathering data related to population growth and its effect on the atmosphere (00:48:55). He presented charts comparing temperature to CO2 levels and highlighted the increasing rate of warming (00:50:28). He mentioned the need to address CO2 levels in the atmosphere and drew comparisons to past issues like sulfur and ozone depletion (00:50:43). He would like the council to organize a team to address the data. Joan Cox directed staff to get his email and refer him to the Sustainability Commission chair (00:52:03). Alice Merrill commented on the loss of parking spots in parking lot number one due to changes related to bicycle parking and requested the council to address the issue (00:52:37). Babette McDougall thanked Kevin McGowan, the Department of Public Works Director, and his team for their work (00:53:43). He encouraged collaboration among councilmembers to address the city's challenges. Govinda thanked the council and staff, and advocated for increased public participation in democracy (00:55:54). He said that Govinda from the Sartaj restaurant is trying to open a buffet with cheap eats, but he is being delayed by the health department, and requests that the city help him open the buffet (00:56:27). | No Motion | 4 Total: 2 In Favor 1 Against 1 Neutral |
00:48:53 Paul King was In Favor: Requested the council to put climate change on the agenda and focus on gathering data related to population growth and its effect on the atmosphere. Presented charts comparing temperature to CO2 levels and highlighted the increasing rate of warming. Mentioned the need to address CO2 levels in the atmosphere and drew comparisons to past issues like sulfur and ozone depletion.
00:52:37 Alice Merrill was Against: Commented on the loss of parking spots in parking lot number one due to changes related to bicycle parking and requested the council to address the issue. 00:53:43 Babette McDougall (Ian) was Neutral: Thanked Kevin McGowan, the Department of Public Works Director, and his team for their work. Encouraged collaboration among councilmembers to address the city's challenges and address city hall's redesign. 00:55:54 Govinda was In Favor: Thanked the council and staff, and advocated for increased public participation in democracy. Said that Govinda from the Sartaj restaurant is trying to open a buffet with cheap eats, but he is being delayed by the health department, and requests that the city help him open the buffet. |
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00:58:03 | 3: CONSENT CALENDAR - 8:00 PM | The council is considering the consent calendar, which includes several routine items expected to have unanimous support. Councilmember Cox announced that item 3B is being continued to the next meeting. The remaining items for consideration are: 3A, adopting the draft minutes from March 18, 2025; 3C, reviewing and approving the state-required annual progress report on the implementation of the housing element; 3D, waiving the second reading and adopting Ordinance No. 04-2025, which re-adopts Chapter 2.60, Military Equipment Use Policy; and 3E, receiving and filing the Sausalito Police Department's Crime and Traffic Report for the first quarter of 2025. | No Motion | 2 Total: 0 In Favor 1 Against 1 Neutral |
00:59:28 Ian was Against: Ian reminds the council that they are representatives of their constituents and urges them to be more conservative in governing Sausalito. He expresses concern about the handling of the housing element and the mistrust it has engendered, advocating for careful consideration of each item rather than grouping them on a consent calendar. He questions the absence of the city attorney.
01:01:32 Govinda was Neutral: Govinda references the Torah and advises against relying on others. He then speaks on the consent calendar items, noting the half a million offered for a bike path and the opposition to it. As a cyclist, he feels it is personal that people are against bicycles. He also speaks against encouraging people to talk against low-cost housing. Govinda congratulates the Police Department on only having 16 arrests in the first quarter. |
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01:03:34 | 4: PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS - 8:15 PM | The council concluded the public comment period and indicated there were no further public speakers. Following this, the mayor stated they would move on to the next item and entertained a motion to adopt items 3A, 3C, 3D, and 3E of the consent calendar (01:03:41). | No Motion | 0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral |
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01:03:53 | 4.A: Appeal of a Retroactive Design Review Permit (2024-00049) issued by the Sausalito Planning Commission to conditionally approve the expansion of a second-floor deck at 27 Central Avenue (APN: 065-231-02) | Senior Planner Matthew Mandich and Code Enforcement Officer Justin Gokermelo presented the appeal of a retroactive design review permit for a deck expansion at 27 Central Avenue. This case has been ongoing for eight years, previously adjudicated by the council in 2018. Mandich explained the history, starting with a 2017 zoning permit and subsequent neighbor complaints leading to a stop work order and Planning Commission ruling that a design review permit was needed. The City Council affirmed this, requiring a design review permit or demolition. After several planning commission meetings, a design review permit was approved in 2019 with conditions for deck reduction to mitigate view impacts for 31 Central Avenue, but the applicant failed to comply. Gokermelo then detailed code enforcement actions, including citations, aimed at achieving compliance. He emphasized the cyclical pattern of requests, inaction, and enforcement. The expired 2018 design review permit led to renewed code enforcement in 2023. The applicant submitted a new design review permit application in March 2023 after citations were issued. The staff recommends that the City Council deny the appeal and uphold the Planning Commission resolution approving retroactive design review permit with the attached conditions of approval requiring deck reduction and associated code enforcement actions. (01:22:43) Cox asked about property ownership timelines and the status of citations. Councilmember Hoffman noted the new neighbor was aware of the outstanding order. Mika Stefani, the appellant, presented her case, arguing that the Planning Commission failed to address changed circumstances since 2019 and that the current view impact is minimal. She emphasized neighbor consent for the addition and compliance with municipal code. During council discussion, the mayor moved to deny the appeal and uphold the planning commission resolution. (02:01:35) Councilmembers expressed frustration with the lengthy dispute and the need to enforce the municipal code. Councilmember Hoffman noted a view of the property in 2018. Cox also highlighted the lack of evidence supporting claims of proper initial notice and emphasized that neighbor consent is not enough to override code enforcement actions. | Motion to deny the appeal and uphold the Planning Commission Resolution Number 202409 that conditionally approves a retroactive design review permit for the expansion of a second floor deck at 27 Central Avenue. (02:01:35) | 6 Total: 0 In Favor 5 Against 1 Neutral |
01:39:44 Ian was Neutral: Discussed the importance of institutional memory from the Planning Commission and the need to define 'view' in these cases.
01:41:54 Jack Carlson was Against: Owner of 31 Central Ave, stated the view of the San Francisco skyline is directly impacted by the second floor balcony at 27 Central. He emphasized that he bought the property understanding that addition was to be removed to restore the view. 01:44:01 Bob Leff was Against: Tenant at 21 Central, representing landlord Parrish Chang. He stated that the landlord has been negatively impacted by the activities at 27 Central over parking issues. The 2nd floor became a rental when the previous owner said it was for family. 01:46:15 Andrew Machado was Against: Assistant to John Carlson, resident at 31 Central Avenue. Stated that the appellant misrepresented her intentions when entering the premises at 31, and took only limited photographs. Said that landscape maintenance was never performed and overgrowth remains unchanged. 01:47:45 Dilworth Cannon was Against: Resident of 35 Central Avenue, expressed frustration with the recurring nature of the issue. Supported Jack Carlson's claims and stated that the appellant trespassed to take photos. Reminded the Council of impersonation by Ms. Stefani in a 2018 meeting. 01:49:57 Agnes Kaprilian was Against: Long-time resident of 42 Central. Asserted that 31 Central has less of a panoramic view due to the added room at 27. Expressed concern about setting a precedent where building without permits is tolerated. Accused the appellant of entering her home without permission and making further additions while supposed to reduce the deck. The view being presented is less than half the view of 31 Central. |
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02:06:49 | 5: BUSINESS ITEMS - 9:15 PM | Councilmember Cox introduces the business items, noting that they are on schedule. | No Motion | 0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral |
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02:06:59 | 5.A: Review of Draft Fiscal Year 2025/2026 Capital Improvement Program | The City Council reviewed the draft Capital Improvement Program (CIP) for fiscal years 2025/2026. City Manager Brandon Phipps emphasized the importance of infrastructure investment, highlighting past successes and ongoing projects, including street repairs, park improvements, and energy efficiency initiatives. He outlined funding sources such as Measure L, parking funds, and grants. Public Works Director Kevin McGowan provided details on the CIP, explaining the prioritization process, new projects, and supplemental lists. He noted the facility assessment study and efforts to balance funding across projects. Councilmembers discussed project prioritization, funding allocation, and coordination with other agencies. Mayor Stefani requested clarification on funding commitments and emphasized the importance of public safety in project selection. The council discussed various specific projects. Overall, the council provided feedback and guidance to staff for further refinement of the CIP. (02:14:38) Mention of Spencer Avenue fire station being added as a project. (02:16:30) Suggestion of sea level wall as an attainable goal. | No Motion | 3 Total: 3 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral |
03:14:02 Carolyn Revell was In Favor: Representing Sausalito Beautiful, Revell advocated for green infrastructure, focusing on street trees and parks. She requested increased funding for replacing dying trees on Bridgeway (03:15:03) and asked for a park master plan to be included in the fiscal year 2526 budget.
03:16:20 Ian was In Favor: Expressed appreciation for the mayor's clarification on funding commitments and supported a stem-to-stern approach to Bridgeway improvements, arguing it would be more practical and cost-effective in the long run. (03:17:12) Noted the city's financial challenges and urged for a conservative approach to win constituent support. 03:18:32 Sybil Boutier was In Favor: Supported the Coloma Street sidewalk and Safe Routes to School project, emphasizing its importance for seniors and students. (03:18:58) Highlighted safety concerns due to a blind corner and the need for a sidewalk to access Bridgeway and other services. |
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03:26:31 | 6: CITY MANAGER REPORTS, COUNCILMEMBER REPORTS, CITY COUNCIL APPOINTMENTS, OTHER COUNCIL BUSINESS | Councilmember Cox stated that someone (unspecified) indicated they didn't have any reports. (03:26:31) | No Motion | 0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral |
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03:26:36 | 6A: City Manager Information for Council | City Manager Brandon Phipps thanked the council and staff for allowing him to take a week off and acknowledged Brandon Phipps for doing the work in his absence. He stated that he doesn't have a report important enough to talk about tonight. | No Motion | 0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral |
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03:27:05 | 6B: City Attorney Information for Council | Councilmember Cox asked the City Attorney if they had any information for the council. The City Attorney responded that they had no information to provide at that time due to the late hour. | No Motion | 0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral |
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03:27:14 | 6C: Councilmember Committee Reports and Direction on Requested Action | Councilmember Cox and Councilmember Hoffman presented two proposed letters opposing SB 79 and SB 634, seeking the council's endorsement for the city to utilize these letters. Councilmember Hoffman reported on the Sausalito Sister City organization's request regarding Kashkish's visit (03:28:05). She also reported on the North Bay Executive Committee meeting, where Congressman Huffman and Congressman Thompson discussed the changing legislative landscape in Washington, D.C., and how cities can support the congressmen (03:28:33). Public comment was opened, then closed. Council decided to issue opposition letters on behalf of the city (03:33:38). | Mayor made a motion for the city to issue opposition letters to SB 79 and SB 634 (03:33:54). Councilmember Hoffman seconded. Council Member Blousting abstained (03:34:02). Motion carries 4-0-1. | 2 Total: 1 In Favor 0 Against 1 Neutral |
03:31:05 Ian was Neutral: Expressed confusion about the agenda's structure regarding public comment for items 6A, 6B, and 6C. He emphasized the importance of the city manager's role and suggested providing her with a strong team rather than relying on consultants, highlighting the value of institutional memory and data within city facilities (03:31:24).
03:32:49 Sandra Bushmaker was In Favor: Noted the urgency of responding to SB 79, with a deadline of noon tomorrow through the legislative portal. She mentioned the League of California Cities and Catalysts of California have already submitted letters. Urged the council to check the deadline for SB 634 and ensure access to the legislative portal in Sacramento (03:32:49). |
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03:34:19 | 6D: Appointments | The council considered the appointment of a member to the Planning Commission, whose term was expiring. Mayor Cox opened the matter for public comment. Alice Merrill spoke, noting how difficult it is to find the right people for boards and emphasized the difficulty in replacing Christina Feller, given her experience and knowledge, especially regarding the housing element. She suggested extending Feller's term until the housing element is completed. Ian echoed Merrill's comments, asserting they represent the majority of constituents and cautioned the council against dismissing their concerns, especially regarding Christine Feller's reappointment. Sandra Bushmaker also supported extending Christina Feller's term, highlighting her extensive involvement in the housing element from the beginning. Cox responded to the public comments by stating that the city council has an ordinance limiting commissioners to a maximum of six years. She asked the City Attorney to weigh in on the risk of having a Planning Commissioner serve outside of the term allowed by the City Council ordinance. The City Attorney stated there is a risk that unless someone is properly appointed to serve their term, that their participation in decisions could be subject to challenge. (03:38:55) The City Attorney added that he has received questions from council members about the ability of the city to change 258.090 with respect to term limits on city boards and commissions and the term limit provision does exist in the municipal code has been created by the city, so it can be modified by the city council. (03:39:24) Cox then nominated Joshua Richmond for the Planning Commission, but there was no second. Mayor Cox nominated Fred Moore, which was seconded by Councilmember Stefani. Councilmember Hoffman nominated Bob Lalong, but there was no second. Mayor Cox advocated for Fred Moore, emphasizing his experience, legal background, service on the Tustin City Council, and familiarity with Sausalito. (03:41:18) Councilmember Hoffman acknowledged the public's concerns, noting that 31 out of 30 public comments requested extending Commissioner Feller's term to complete the housing element. Councilmember Hoffman also stated that she believed that under the 2.58.110 additional policies regarding city boards, commissions, and committees does give the out to the City Council. (03:44:12) Councilmember Blousting expressed gratitude to Commissioner Feller for her service. (03:46:21) Blousting stated that she would be deeply uncomfortable with making a change in our municipal code to extend a term when we have qualified applicants here. (03:46:50) Councilmember Sobieski thanked outgoing Commissioner Feller and all the applicants. (03:48:06) Cox said she was impressed with Joshua Richmond but also acknowledged Fred Moore as an amazing candidate. (03:49:11) Councilmember Hoffman said that the comment that this in any way reflects what's going on in national politics, I think, is completely out of line (03:50:56) and that the people that wrote in because I think that was not true. (03:52:25) | Mayor Cox nominated Fred Moore, which was seconded by Councilmember Stefani. The motion passed 4-1 with Councilmember Hoffman voting no. (03:53:13) | 3 Total: 3 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral |
03:34:48 Alice Merrill was In Favor: Expressed the difficulty of replacing Christina Feller on the planning commission, given her expertise and long tenure and suggested extending her term, especially until the housing element is completed.
03:35:42 Ian was In Favor: Echoed Alice Merrill's comments, stating they represent the majority of constituents. He urged the council to consider extending Christine Feller's term, citing her institutional memory and challenging them to justify not reappointing her. 03:37:06 Sandra Bushmaker was In Favor: Supported extending Christina Feller's term, highlighting her chairmanship and extensive involvement in the housing element, emphasizing the need for her institutional knowledge. |
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03:53:23.40 | 6E: Future Agenda Items | Joan Cox introduced the future agenda items, noting an attached list and planned updates, including a column indicating when items will be discussed. Council Member Blousting requested confirmation of the e-bike ordinance hearing, citing outreach and progress in other jurisdictions. The Mayor suggested exploring alternate means for factual hearings to streamline processes, referencing a specific case that took eight years. He also raised the issue of parking in the median on Bridgeway and enforcement of speeding, for both cars and cyclists. Cox clarified that direction had already been given on the parking/speeding issue and it's already on the future agenda. | No Motion | 0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral |
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03:56:24 | 6F: Minutes from Boards, Commissions, and Committees | Councilmember Cox confirms that direction was given on the topic of enforcement at the Saturday meeting (03:56:25). | No Motion | 0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral |
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03:56:29 | 6G: Other reports of significance | Joan Cox briefly acknowledged the item and stated that the next item is minutes (03:56:32). | No Motion | 0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral |
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03:56:36 | 6H: Public Comment on Items 6A-6C and 6E-6G: limited to 3 minutes/person | This agenda item opened the floor for a final round of public comments specifically related to items 6A through 6C and 6E through 6G. One member of the public, Ian, spoke, discussing the need for future agenda items focusing on financial savings measures, corrective actions in the budget process, and careful consideration of upcoming issues like the Metropolitan Transportation Commission and the housing element. Mayor Cox then adjourned the meeting in honor of Joanne Wishart, the owner of Joanne's Print Shop, highlighting her contributions to the community. | No Motion | 1 Total: 1 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral |
03:57:18 Ian was In Favor: Ian suggested future agenda items should address implementing savings measures and corrective actions in the budget process, especially considering the Metropolitan Transportation Commission's imminent arrival and the housing element. He emphasized the need for careful planning and expressed concern about the city's financial state.
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04:00:21 | 7: ADJOURNMENT | Councilmember Cox acknowledged the passing of a community member who founded 4th and D copy center 57 years ago and later received a Lifetime Achievement Award from the Sausalito Chamber in 2017. The meeting was adjourned in her honor (04:00:32). | No Motion | 0 Total: 0 In Favor 0 Against 0 Neutral |
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City Council Meeting Transcript
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00:00:26.78 | City Clerk | Good evening, Mayor. The City Council of the City of Sausalito is holding its meeting today at April 15th over here at City Hall Council Chambers. It's also being broadcast on Zoom, the city's website, and cable TV channel 27. |
00:00:42.34 | Joan Cox | Good morning, good evening, everybody, and welcome to the special meeting for the City of Sausalito for Tuesday, April 15th, 2025. I will call the meeting to order and ask the City Clerk to call the roll. |
00:00:54.25 | City Clerk | Councilmember Blaustein. |
00:00:56.04 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
00:00:56.07 | Joan Cox | Here. |
00:00:56.23 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
00:00:56.49 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
00:00:57.09 | City Clerk | Councilmember Hoffman. |
00:00:58.49 | Joan Cox | Here. |
00:00:58.69 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
00:00:58.76 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
00:00:59.14 | City Clerk | Councilmember Sobieski. |
00:01:00.97 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
00:01:01.34 | City Clerk | Vice Mayor Woodside here. Mayor Cox. |
00:01:04.34 | Joan Cox | Here. |
00:01:04.97 | Joan Cox | First up on our agenda is interviews for the Planning Commission. |
00:01:10.27 | Joan Cox | We had three interviews scheduled, but Walt Lemmerman has withdrawn. |
00:01:17.33 | Joan Cox | his name from consideration. So we will start off with Bob Lallon. |
00:01:28.52 | Bob Lalonde | Good evening, or good, I guess it is evening. |
00:01:30.87 | Joan Cox | Good evening, Bob. We've allocated five minutes for each of these interviews, and we customarily start off with you introducing yourself and sharing with us your interest in the Planning Commission. |
00:01:31.66 | Bob Lalonde | Yes. |
00:01:41.69 | Bob Lalonde | Great. So my name is Bob Lalonde. I know I've met many of you over the years. My wife and I, we've... |
00:01:48.84 | Bob Lalonde | lived in Sausalito now, I think for seven years up at 6 Josephine Street, which is actually a |
00:01:55.84 | Bob Lalonde | That home, which I thought was a, it is a historic home, |
00:02:00.86 | Bob Lalonde | When we purchased it, it had a demolition permit |
00:02:04.65 | Bob Lalonde | and plans to build condos on that site. |
00:02:07.98 | Bob Lalonde | which always surprised me when we first moved here and found out that in Sausalito, you could tear down 160 year old home. |
00:02:17.60 | Bob Lalonde | Uh, |
00:02:18.84 | Bob Lalonde | In many cities, that would never happen. But anyway, we purchased it, and we actually did not demo it, and we renovated it, and we've loved living here ever since. So I graduated from the College of Environmental Design at UC Berkeley in architecture and planning. |
00:02:36.26 | Bob Lalonde | Worked in construction and then have been a developer for the last 40 years. |
00:02:41.03 | Bob Lalonde | mainly doing urban infill mixed use projects, so multifamily over retail. I've been before many planning commissions from Placer County to projects in Novato, San Rafael, |
00:02:57.64 | Bob Lalonde | Obviously, the home here in Sausalito, done many projects in San Francisco. We did a number of projects when Mayor Jerry Brown was in Oakland, urban infill projects in the downtown, Cupertino, Mountain View, et cetera. So I've really been, again, an urban infill developer trying to fit large multifamily projects into existing environments. So architecture has always been a big part of that, fitting into the fabric of the current city. |
00:03:36.20 | Bob Lalonde | so to speak. |
00:03:38.17 | Bob Lalonde | Um |
00:03:39.61 | Bob Lalonde | I've been, actually, when I was in San Francisco, I actually sat on the... |
00:03:44.15 | Bob Lalonde | San Francisco redevelopment advisory committee. When the giants built the ballpark, because that was a big, uh, planning issue and, uh, |
00:03:54.69 | Bob Lalonde | I've always had an interest in... |
00:03:57.31 | Bob Lalonde | you know, watching and looking for good development |
00:04:01.48 | Bob Lalonde | And, you know, always thought that getting involved in planning would be something fun and interesting because I've been doing it basically my entire life. So that's a brief background. |
00:04:15.77 | Bob Lalonde | my interest in the built environment. |
00:04:20.19 | Joan Cox | Thank you. And have you attended |
00:04:23.50 | Joan Cox | Sausalito Planning Commission meetings. |
00:04:25.85 | Bob Lalonde | Yes, not consistently, but when projects have come up, I've certainly come and listened and done some public comment. |
00:04:37.62 | Joan Cox | Thanks. Other questions for Bob? |
00:04:40.64 | Mayor | Just quickly, Bob, given your background and your interest in urban infill and looking at Sausalito, what can you say about the opportunities or lack of opportunities here for that kind of multifamily? |
00:04:49.12 | Bob Lalonde | Yeah. |
00:04:49.25 | Bob Lalonde | Thank you. |
00:04:56.07 | Bob Lalonde | So, |
00:04:57.94 | Bob Lalonde | Great question. Um, |
00:05:00.73 | Bob Lalonde | You know, when I first moved here, I was on EDAC, and then... |
00:05:07.04 | Bob Lalonde | Ian, I think it was Omit where I looked at, and there was a gentleman, was it Steve Wagner? I think the city hired to help look at... |
00:05:19.34 | Bob Lalonde | Mike Wagner. |
00:05:20.67 | Bob Lalonde | Look at a lot of property, actually looked at all the property that Sausalito owned. And as part of that, looked at MLK. |
00:05:27.91 | Bob Lalonde | you know the property the lots downtown um certainly |
00:05:31.73 | Bob Lalonde | you know, the working waterfront area, |
00:05:35.19 | Bob Lalonde | And |
00:05:37.48 | Bob Lalonde | And I think there's a lot of opportunity. |
00:05:41.26 | Bob Lalonde | certainly |
00:05:43.07 | Bob Lalonde | you know, the infamous project |
00:05:45.82 | Bob Lalonde | next to the Angelenos is not one that I would call, you know, the right kind of opportunity. |
00:05:51.71 | Bob Lalonde | um |
00:05:52.95 | Bob Lalonde | But I think there's a lot of opportunity for for multifamily to be built in Sausalito that's done, you know, tastefully and right sized. We many of the projects we did in San Francisco have been award winning projects. |
00:06:10.42 | Bob Lalonde | One of them, which is by the DMV, was an 80-unit condo project that we had the ability to go four-story over retail. But the neighbors, all of the homes in that area in Buena Vista Heights were all Edwardians. And one thing we did is we took the fourth floor and we put it into dormers so that the bedrooms are upstairs and took the roof line down to 30 feet. And things like that that you can do, I think, architecturally and also, you know, from a design standpoint. |
00:06:40.64 | Bob Lalonde | You know, building I like modern architecture, but putting putting modern architecture in a historic district to me just doesn't make sense. So I think you can do things tastefully. And I and I really do think that we need a lot more multifamily to be built. And I've kind of been following the the housing element. |
00:07:01.99 | Bob Lalonde | which, |
00:07:03.20 | Bob Lalonde | is a very complicated issue. |
00:07:06.19 | Bob Lalonde | I would maybe would like and wish that that was done by now. It's kind of a tough thing, as I think is a new... |
00:07:14.71 | Bob Lalonde | commissioner to inherit because it's got such a history and it's in its complexity um i mean there's a lot of things that have gone on over the months with that issue that uh you know it's a huge learning curve i guess i would say so |
00:07:31.82 | Bob Lalonde | Thank you. Yes. |
00:07:33.56 | Joan Cox | Thank you so much. So appreciate you coming in. |
00:07:34.68 | Bob Lalonde | Okay. |
00:07:35.57 | Bob Lalonde | Thank you. |
00:07:36.01 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
00:07:42.98 | Joan Cox | Next on our list is Joshua Richmond. |
00:07:49.63 | Joan Cox | Welcome. |
00:07:50.86 | Josh Richman | Hi, and thanks for having me. Sure. |
00:07:53.53 | Josh Richman | Um, |
00:07:54.40 | Josh Richman | So a little background of who I am. |
00:07:57.27 | Josh Richman | My name's Josh Richman. |
00:07:58.98 | Josh Richman | I am a resident in Sausalito and I have over two decades of experience in industrial design, product design, and product development. So I come to this council with a slightly different angle. |
00:08:13.59 | Josh Richman | I have also most recently been active in helping with the, the, |
00:08:20.90 | Josh Richman | a committee called the ODDS Views Committee. |
00:08:26.55 | Josh Richman | And there we introduced |
00:08:29.35 | Josh Richman | kind of new pragmatic methods |
00:08:32.09 | Josh Richman | and objective methods for looking at how we can |
00:08:37.25 | Josh Richman | Uh, |
00:08:38.67 | Josh Richman | David Brophy- increase the and protect the views and properties and the beauty that we have here in the city, and so that is kind of some of the unique angle that I bring to the table. David Brophy- very rigorous and pragmatic in my approach. David Brophy- um. |
00:08:58.07 | Josh Richman | And |
00:09:01.26 | Josh Richman | Yep. And I have some. |
00:09:04.33 | Josh Richman | Do we have any questions? Sure. Yeah. |
00:09:06.33 | Joan Cox | Sure. So your education lists industrial design and human factors. Can you say a little bit more about human factors? |
00:09:14.26 | Josh Richman | Certainly. So Human Factors is about accessibility, about people's use of devices, products, spaces, buildings. And it's about the interpretation of those rules into things that we can build. |
00:09:29.58 | Josh Richman | And so this directly relates to what we're talking about, which is how we build communities, how we use structure, building code. |
00:09:37.95 | Josh Richman | and translate that to things that we want to create in the future. |
00:09:43.89 | Josh Richman | And so that's kind of how I would interpret best looking at that. |
00:09:49.42 | Councilmember Hoffman | Yes. |
00:09:51.57 | Councilmember Hoffman | I have a quick follow-up question on the, so you were on the odds, you were on the odds working group? |
00:09:56.24 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
00:09:56.27 | Josh Richman | Yes. |
00:09:56.31 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
00:09:56.73 | Councilmember Hoffman | And you work with Sophia and Michael Rex and I think David Marlott and that group to develop the odds program. |
00:10:05.66 | Councilmember Hoffman | And tell us a little bit more about that, just briefly, about how you are working to develop that program. |
00:10:12.00 | Josh Richman | Yeah, so we were looking at |
00:10:14.62 | Josh Richman | How do you create an objective system to look and protect all the views of new development and existing properties? And what was interesting about this is it wasn't just a restrictive order of plans of here's what you can't do. It was a system where you could identify opportunity spaces. spaces new development, where it would best fit within the community and kind of objectively be able to determine what kind of conflicts it may interface with and also where it would be. |
00:10:54.43 | Josh Richman | where the opportunities were for architects and developers to be very clever and creative about how they could alter that plan. |
00:11:02.11 | Josh Richman | or they even come to the planning commission. |
00:11:04.48 | Josh Richman | So it's that kind of proactive |
00:11:06.61 | Josh Richman | type of methodology. |
00:11:08.67 | Josh Richman | kind of processes that we can put in place. And we're very proud, very happy that much of that maybe is being adopted. |
00:11:19.15 | Josh Richman | So it's that type of thinking that I like to kind of bring to the table. |
00:11:23.08 | Councilmember Hoffman | And you were specifically looking at the current zoning and the current parcels in Sausalito. |
00:11:28.02 | Josh Richman | Correct. And the |
00:11:30.12 | Josh Richman | within our current code. |
00:11:32.97 | Josh Richman | So yeah. |
00:11:37.07 | Ian | Yes, Ian. |
00:11:38.32 | Councilmember Sobieski | Big fan of the view thing, I think. Any other technology solutions that you imagine to solve our problems in planning? |
00:11:46.16 | Josh Richman | Well, we're going to have to take a look and a little deeper dive into certain things. I'm not kind of ready to propose anything quite yet, but I think there's a lot of room for improvement. I think we can take some of those methods and the ways we were thinking about things, maybe apply them to other. |
00:12:06.41 | Josh Richman | problems that we're working on within the city. And sometimes it's a very straightforward, how do we best interpret the code and how do we best interpret those things so that they make sense with the feel, the look, |
00:12:20.64 | Josh Richman | and the atmosphere that we we have here. |
00:12:24.73 | Joan Cox | When you say you're invested in resilience and sustainability and long-term vitality, what, what, can you give an example of that? |
00:12:32.94 | Josh Richman | Sure. Aspects of nature, aspects of nature, |
00:12:40.92 | Josh Richman | I think there's two folds to it, two sides to this, where there is the opportunity to |
00:12:46.48 | Josh Richman | build new things that are |
00:12:48.53 | Josh Richman | Aesthetically historic, also very modern. |
00:12:52.45 | Josh Richman | There's opportunities to protect the existing things that we do have, the deep, rich history of Sausalito. |
00:12:59.98 | Josh Richman | So I think all of that kind of comes into play. |
00:13:04.33 | Joan Cox | All right. Thank you so much for coming in. |
00:13:06.42 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
00:13:06.64 | Josh Richman | So, yeah. |
00:13:06.69 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
00:13:06.85 | Joan Cox | much. |
00:13:08.75 | Joan Cox | Thanks, everybody. That's the end of our interviews for this evening. We are going to pause for five minutes before we, well, actually two minutes before we adjourn to closed session. |
00:13:23.82 | Councilmember Hoffman | I think there are people here for public comment. |
00:13:26.98 | Joan Cox | Yeah, but it's noticed for 530, so I'm going to wait till 530 to take the public comment. |
00:13:32.02 | Councilmember Hoffman | Sorry, I didn't see it on there. Yeah. Thank you. Okay. |
00:13:44.58 | Joan Cox | What were you wanting to give public comment on? |
00:13:48.59 | Councilmember Hoffman | Extend your sleep. |
00:13:50.97 | Joan Cox | Oh, on the planning commission. |
00:13:51.09 | Councilmember Hoffman | On the Planning Commission. |
00:13:52.49 | Joan Cox | Yeah. So we're, we are not going to consider those appointments until the very end of our meeting. |
00:14:03.29 | Chris White | I thought I understood you. |
00:14:07.66 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
00:14:07.68 | Councilmember Hoffman | Mayor, I... It's now 5.30pm. |
00:14:09.69 | City Clerk | No, 5.30. |
00:14:10.72 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. I discussed this with our team. |
00:14:14.97 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
00:14:15.51 | Councilmember Hoffman | City Attorney actually earlier today about when we would take public comment and whether |
00:14:21.85 | Councilmember Hoffman | not it would be under interviews for planning commission or and he said it would be under both |
00:14:26.95 | Joan Cox | It's not noticed under interviews. It's only noticed at the end under consider making appointments. |
00:14:26.97 | Councilmember Hoffman | Well, it's not noticed. |
00:14:33.45 | Councilmember Hoffman | It's not noticed under that either. |
00:14:36.15 | Joan Cox | Well, it was in the draft. I don't know how it disappeared. |
00:14:38.75 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
00:14:39.61 | Councilmember Hoffman | That was my question to him, and that's why his comment back to me was it could be properly under either. And so that's why there may be an equity issue. Hold on one more. |
00:14:52.21 | City Clerk | Hold on one moment. We have the city attorney. |
00:14:57.97 | Joan Cox | I didn't. |
00:15:04.99 | Joan Cox | Yeah, I will. But I just, it was on the agenda and that is really |
00:15:11.40 | Joan Cox | in Hawaii. |
00:15:11.97 | Ian | Thank you. |
00:15:12.02 | Joan Cox | was removed. |
00:15:12.68 | Ian | Thank you. |
00:15:15.79 | City Attorney | Mayor, I certainly think that it is acceptable for the council to take public comment on interviews. It is listed as an item on your agenda. Yeah. |
00:15:24.34 | City Attorney | If you would like to take public comment now on... |
00:15:27.87 | City Attorney | the conduct of the interviews, you certainly may. |
00:15:30.77 | Joan Cox | It's not public comment on the interviews, the public comment pertains to the appointment of a planning commissioner, which is being heard at the end of the agenda, but I am going to make an exception and I will go ahead and hear your comment. |
00:15:47.23 | Joan Cox | And in the future, if there's discussion about the agenda, perhaps someone could share that with me in advance. |
00:15:52.95 | Joan Cox | Okay. |
00:15:53.50 | Joan Cox | Yeah, thank you. |
00:15:53.86 | Chris White | Thank you. Thank you again. That's very kind of you. I think I know everybody at the head table. My name is Chris White. We've been living here for 14 years and we've had quite an extensive relationship with the Planning Commission over the past several years because of new neighbors that have joined the |
00:16:12.72 | Chris White | joined us in Sausalito. But I'm really here to drop to the bottom line and strongly urge the council to extend Christina Felder's |
00:16:25.01 | Chris White | um, um, membership on the planning commission, even though I know it would be above and beyond accepting somebody else, uh, uh, to, to fill that void because of one specific reason, and that's the crisis and the controversy and the confusion over the housing element. Uh, I don't think there's anybody in the entire North Bay area that has as much experience, um, and wisdom and, uh, |
00:16:54.96 | Chris White | knowledge about the Sausalito housing. So it would seem to me, as well as several of our neighbors who have discussed this, really criminal not to have her wisdom and background and experience involved in this. Just that one issue. |
00:17:11.23 | Chris White | not talking about anything else, just that one issue, she could help you immensely. So I hope you seriously give that some thought at 10 o'clock. But again, thank you again for allowing me |
00:17:24.22 | Chris White | I'm old. I got to go to bed early. So thank you. |
00:17:27.33 | Joan Cox | You're very welcome. Thank you for your public comment. |
00:17:31.04 | Joan Cox | All right, I'm going to move on to closed session. We will be considering four items in closed session. One, C1, Conference of Legal Counsel, Anticipated Litigation, Initiation of Litigation, one case. C2, Conference of Legal Counsel, Anticipated Litigation, Significant Exposure to Litigation, one case. |
00:17:51.36 | Joan Cox | C3 conference with legal counsel existing litigation, Sullivan versus City of Sausalito. And C4 conference with labor negotiator, agency designated representative, Kathy Nikitas and Charles Sakai, employee organization, Sausalito Police Association. Is there any public comment on closed session items? |
00:18:10.95 | City Clerk | See you then. |
00:18:11.52 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
00:18:12.05 | Joan Cox | Okay, then we will adjourn to close session we will reconvene at 7pm. Thank |
00:18:42.23 | Unknown | Yes. |
00:18:43.96 | Joan Cox | Joan Cox, Good evening and welcome to the regular meeting of the sauce leader city council for Tuesday April 15 2025 it's 7pm I will call the meeting to order back to order we are resuming coming back from closed session and ask the city clerk to call the role. |
00:19:04.14 | City Clerk | Councilmember Blachstein. Here. Councilmember Hoffman. |
00:19:05.94 | Joan Cox | Here. |
00:19:08.86 | Joan Cox | She'll be here momentarily. |
00:19:10.70 | City Clerk | Councilmember Sobieski. |
00:19:12.68 | City Clerk | Vice Mayor Woodside? Here. And Mayor Cox? |
00:19:15.80 | Joan Cox | Here. Okay, next we will do the Pledge of Allegiance. |
00:19:22.50 | Ian | . |
00:19:22.62 | Joan Cox | Pledge of allegiance to the flag. |
00:19:24.69 | Ian | of the United States of America, and to the public forward which stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice |
00:19:24.81 | Joan Cox | of the United States of America. |
00:19:29.18 | Joan Cox | that. |
00:19:29.25 | Unknown | Amen. |
00:19:29.38 | Joan Cox | Right. |
00:19:30.23 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
00:19:30.28 | Unknown | Thank you. |
00:19:35.04 | Joan Cox | We're off. |
00:19:38.58 | Joan Cox | Next item on the agenda is closed session announcements. I want to correct, |
00:19:45.04 | Joan Cox | Joan Cox, Two things from my announcement of closed session at 530 one is item C to had two cases, not one case I think I mistakenly said one case another item is that. |
00:19:58.41 | Joan Cox | uh, |
00:19:59.40 | Joan Cox | Council member Sobieski recused himself from item. |
00:19:59.44 | Unknown | Come here. |
00:20:03.35 | Joan Cox | one of the items in C2. |
00:20:07.29 | Joan Cox | There are no closed session announcements. I'm going to ask for approval of the agenda, but first I'm going to announce that I'm going to ask that we. |
00:20:17.92 | Joan Cox | continue item 3b to our next meeting that's the formula retail ordinance |
00:20:24.46 | Joan Cox | And so I am asked, we will still take public comment on it tonight, should anyone wish to comment. I would like to ask for approval of the amended agenda. |
00:20:34.00 | Joan Cox | So moved. |
00:20:34.61 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
00:20:35.99 | Joan Cox | second |
00:20:36.61 | Councilmember Hoffman | All in favor? |
00:20:37.66 | Councilmember Hoffman | Aye. Aye. And, Mayor, I'd like the minister to reflect that I have now joined the meeting, and apologies for my late. |
00:20:37.76 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
00:20:37.88 | Joan Cox | I'm not. |
00:20:43.03 | Joan Cox | No worries. That motion carries 5-0. And I will let the record reflect Council Member Hoffman joined us as we were making the Pledge of Allegiance. Okay, we have... |
00:20:59.12 | Joan Cox | Give me a second. |
00:21:00.09 | Ian | Thank you. |
00:21:24.76 | Joan Cox | City Manager, we have something on the agenda, but the recipient is not here. |
00:21:28.42 | Brandon Phipps | Yeah, a mayor or public works director will accept that honor in his stead. He apologized that he could not be here. He said he loves us. So he was glad for his 31 years of service. |
00:21:37.01 | Joan Cox | Okay, so the first item under special presentations is a proclamation honoring the career of Kent Basso. I'm going to briefly read it for us. It is... |
00:21:51.03 | Joan Cox | Whereas Kent Basso began his distinguished career with the city of Sausalito on September 11, 1995, when he was hired as a Maintenance Worker 1, bringing with him a strong work ethic, a commitment to public service, and a deep dedication to the Sausalito community. And... |
00:22:06.32 | Joan Cox | Whereas Kent quickly proved himself to be an invaluable member of the team, earning a promotion to maintenance worker to just three months later on December 21 1995 and continuing to grow and lead within the Public Works Department and |
00:22:21.19 | Joan Cox | Whereas on June 3, 1998, Kent was promoted to public works foreman, taking an increased responsibility and demonstrating exceptional leadership, technical expertise, and a tireless commitment to the improvement and maintenance of the city's infrastructure and public spaces. and whereas on December 15th, 2010, Kent received a well-deserved promotion to public works supervisor, a role in which he guided his team with professionalism, integrity, and a spirit of collaboration, ensuring that Sausalito remained a safe, beautiful... well-deserved promotion to public works supervisor, a role in which he guided his team with professionalism, integrity, and a spirit of collaboration, ensuring that Sausalito remained a safe, beautiful, and well-maintained city for residents and visitors alike. |
00:22:54.38 | Joan Cox | And, whereas Kent has served the city of Sausalito with honor and distinction for nearly three decades, earning the respect and admiration of colleagues, community members, and city leadership through his unwavering dedication and positive attitude. |
00:23:07.71 | Joan Cox | And, whereas Kent's retirement marks the end of an era, but his legacy will live on through the countless improvements he made to the city and the lives he touched throughout his career. Now, therefore... |
00:23:19.31 | Joan Cox | I, the Mayor and the City Council of the City of Sausalito, hereby recognize and honor Kent Basso for his outstanding service and congratulate him on the occasion of his well-earned retirement. Be it further resolved that as Kent embarks on this exciting new chapter, we will always remember, time flies, enjoy each and every day. In witness whereof, I have here unto set my seal and cause the City of Sausalito to be affixed. |
00:23:42.58 | Joan Cox | This 15th day of April, |
00:23:44.28 | Joan Cox | 2025. |
00:23:45.65 | Joan Cox | And thank you, Public Works Director Kevin McGowan, for being here. |
00:23:49.34 | Joan Cox | to accept this on his behalf. |
00:23:52.33 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you, Mayor and members of the City Council. Kent apologizes for not being here. He had a pre-planned trip to go to Texas as well, where he has a ranch down there, or at least his family does. So many apologies for that. But I did want to mention that Kent really loved working here. He had a great time. He liked the people he worked for. That's one reason he stayed for 30 years. And he's one of those gentlemen who knew where everything was. So we were trying to glean some of that institutional knowledge from him. And we did our best, but I'm sure there'll be something that comes up in the future where we'll have to say, what's Kent's phone number? So that we can find it. But many thanks. And again, he enjoyed working with you. He enjoyed working with all the residents of Sausalito and appreciates everything that they have done for him as well as he has done for them. |
00:24:46.63 | Joan Cox | Thank you so much. I see Carolyn Revell is dying to do something. So please come up, Carolyn. |
00:24:53.59 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
00:24:54.03 | Carolyn Revell | We were hoping that Kent would be here, but very briefly, on behalf of Sausalito Beautiful, I'd like to express our appreciation. |
00:25:00.40 | Carolyn Revell | for Kent Basso's years of service to the city of Sausalito. |
00:25:03.58 | Carolyn Revell | During the 10 years since our organization's founding, Kent was a part of our successful partnership to enhance the city's parks, |
00:25:10.33 | Carolyn Revell | Leaders of our Green Thumbs and more recent Adopt-a-Park volunteers |
00:25:14.12 | Carolyn Revell | have coordinated closely with Kent |
00:25:16.15 | Carolyn Revell | to assess the extra maintenance needs at the various parks and to work with the gardening staff he has supervised. In 2018, we presented Kent our Little Willow Award for extra service in the beautification of Sausalito. |
00:25:28.64 | Carolyn Revell | We appreciate that he and Pat Wasco |
00:25:30.98 | Carolyn Revell | recently facilitated the location of a new shed that Sausalito purchased for our tools and supplies, as well as cheerfully solving other issues that may have occurred. |
00:25:39.52 | Carolyn Revell | We found Kent consistently supportive of our efforts and pleasant to work with. We wish him well in his retirement. |
00:25:45.44 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you for letting me make those remarks. |
00:25:46.96 | Joan Cox | Thank you, Carolyn. And welcome, Pat. I didn't see you sitting in the back back there. |
00:25:51.13 | Joan Cox | . |
00:25:52.85 | Joan Cox | Okay, we're gonna move on to item 1B. |
00:25:57.19 | Joan Cox | Budget presentation from the Department of Public Works. Welcome back, Director McGowan. |
00:26:02.61 | Kevin McGowan | Good evening, Mayor, members of the City Council. We do have a presentation this evening. |
00:26:06.98 | Kevin McGowan | And I'd like to get going that we have a few speakers this evening that I'd like to bring up to present about public works. And as you mentioned, I'm Kevin Legown, Public Works Director for the City of Sausalito. Next slide, please. |
00:26:22.48 | Kevin McGowan | Tonight we would like to cover a few topics including who we are and what we do. |
00:26:27.98 | Kevin McGowan | And initially, I'd like to have Pat Guasco up to address our next few slides related to who we are and what Public Works does for our community. Pat? |
00:26:43.00 | Kevin McGowan | Next slide, please. There we go. |
00:26:48.03 | Pat Guasco | Good evening, Mayor Ford and council members. |
00:26:51.93 | Pat Guasco | So, |
00:26:53.79 | Pat Guasco | Who are we? |
00:26:55.51 | Pat Guasco | When I say that, who are GPW staff? |
00:26:59.64 | Pat Guasco | Public Works is composed of 21 full-time positions |
00:27:03.58 | Pat Guasco | equivalent positions. We have four major sections. |
00:27:06.95 | Pat Guasco | which include road maintenance, park maintenance, sanitary maintenance, and engineering. |
00:27:13.19 | Pat Guasco | Within each of these divisions, our staff includes licenses, |
00:27:19.61 | Pat Guasco | between professional engineers, licensed sanitary workers, certified permit technicians, project managers, and very experienced landscape maintenance workers. We pride ourselves on being able to address multiple issues. |
00:27:36.97 | Pat Guasco | types of problems with limited staff in order to best serve the residents Sausalito and the general public. Our staff also responds to emergencies, especially during inclement weather. |
00:27:48.53 | Pat Guasco | Next slide, please. |
00:27:53.66 | Pat Guasco | Our team, our team maintains 25 miles of roadway 42 stair systems 15 parks 21 miles of sewer collection system as well as five public facilities. Our department also addresses issues such as trees right away and crotch encroachments nine signal systems in the repairs of all of these. |
00:28:14.21 | Pat Guasco | We also provide custodial services for parks, restrooms, |
00:28:19.06 | Pat Guasco | and the City Hall. This is accomplished with 15 maintenance staff. We also address minor projects such as the stairway repair shown in the upper right hand corner of the slide. |
00:28:31.56 | Pat Guasco | And we also provide custodial services. Oh, sorry. |
00:28:36.10 | Pat Guasco | We also... |
00:28:37.97 | Pat Guasco | Haven't done this for a while. |
00:28:39.56 | Pat Guasco | Um, we also address minor projects such as the stairway repair shown in the upper right hand corner of the, uh, the slide and coordinate efforts with our engineering division with regard to capital projects and permanent. |
00:28:52.23 | Pat Guasco | Next slide, please. |
00:28:56.00 | Pat Guasco | Our department also is a primary first responder to police and fire matters with regard to emergencies. With weather related emergencies, we keep the roadways clear and manage storm drain systems. We also assist police and fire when requested |
00:29:13.70 | Pat Guasco | for other emergencies, such as power outages and tree matters. |
00:29:17.88 | Pat Guasco | The city's public works department is also the lead agency for the city, regarding stormwater compliance for both public and private development. |
00:29:28.04 | Pat Guasco | Um, |
00:29:28.94 | Pat Guasco | We all act as the FEMA flood administrator for the city and manage repairs of several buildings, such as Martin Luther King School and City Hall. |
00:29:42.08 | Pat Guasco | Our engineering division is responsible for the development of the annual capital improvement program, which is other item |
00:29:49.00 | Pat Guasco | is another item on this evening's agenda. |
00:29:52.38 | Pat Guasco | Our engineering division also reviews private property development and coordinates that review with our community development department. |
00:30:02.72 | Pat Guasco | And with that, I'm going to turn the rest of this over to Ali. Thank you. |
00:30:08.74 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
00:30:11.95 | Joan Cox | Welcome, Ali. |
00:30:13.05 | Ali | Thank you. |
00:30:14.31 | Ali | Good evening, City Council. Over the last year, City Council or the city has- |
00:30:18.94 | Joan Cox | Ali, can you speak into the mic so people on the television can hear? |
00:30:20.69 | Ali | Yes. |
00:30:22.35 | Ali | Sure. |
00:30:23.42 | Ali | So over the last year, the city has utilized a web slash mobile device app called the Fix-It app. |
00:30:31.86 | Ali | So generally speaking, this app allows users to notify public works if something needs fixing on city property. |
00:30:41.48 | Ali | Next slide. |
00:30:44.20 | Ali | One benefit of the app is that it allows someone to submit photos and videos directly from their mobile device. |
00:30:51.93 | Ali | before the app, we would get an email saying, the streetlight is broken. |
00:30:58.61 | Ali | So we weren't sure if |
00:31:00.37 | Ali | a light was out, if the pole was teetering, we didn't know what condition it was in. |
00:31:06.05 | Ali | But now with the mobile app, this picture right here with the streetlight is one that was taken from the app. Pretty good quality. And now we know exactly what... |
00:31:15.50 | Ali | A broken street light means you can see that over the green light that that cylindrical flap is about to fall. So we know exactly how to fix this. |
00:31:26.61 | Ali | Um... |
00:31:28.51 | Ali | And since we started this application, we received more than 400 inquiries with an average response time of about six calendar days. |
00:31:37.86 | Ali | So on the way home, if you get on the app and you submit an inquiry to us, tomorrow, Wednesday would be day one. |
00:31:47.60 | Ali | Thursday would be day two. |
00:31:49.94 | Ali | Friday, day three, Saturday, four. |
00:31:52.44 | Ali | Sunday 5, Monday 6. |
00:31:54.85 | Ali | When it gets fixed, |
00:31:56.56 | Ali | Um, |
00:31:57.72 | Ali | But you would also remember that city staff doesn't work on Fridays, Saturdays or Sundays. So we believe that the six days are really actually a two or three day turnaround. |
00:32:10.36 | Ali | Next slide. |
00:32:13.70 | Ali | Uh, undoubtedly some issues take much longer. Um, sometimes when the maintenance team defers to other departments, um, things get more complicated. Um, sometimes they're, um, |
00:32:27.22 | Ali | passed on to code enforcement, |
00:32:29.90 | Ali | A recent complaint was the Little League |
00:32:32.18 | Ali | baseball fields at MLK. |
00:32:34.07 | Ali | And that was directed to Parks and Rec and Brian Vitale. |
00:32:37.95 | Ali | And another one |
00:32:40.65 | Ali | that this picture represents is a 99 Marion. |
00:32:43.83 | Ali | This one |
00:32:45.55 | Ali | It's also from the app. |
00:32:47.30 | Ali | And this was a neighbor taking a picture, saying, |
00:32:49.82 | Ali | saying that the limbs from this eucalyptus tree were falling on the roadway and causing a concern. |
00:32:56.90 | Ali | So the maintenance team, |
00:32:58.56 | Ali | went to the engineering division to see whether that was actually |
00:33:02.45 | Ali | in the city right away or whether that was on private property. |
00:33:06.71 | Ali | Uh, it was deemed that it was on private property. So. |
00:33:10.86 | Ali | DPW reached out to the homeowner saying that they would need to |
00:33:16.49 | Ali | cut the limbs, or remove this tree. |
00:33:19.84 | Ali | Um, the homeowner hired a contractor, um, |
00:33:23.77 | Ali | But the contractor said that they weren't going to touch this tree because of all of those power lines in the way. |
00:33:32.24 | Ali | The contractor said you should probably reach out to PG&E |
00:33:35.62 | Ali | um, that they would help resolve and cut this tree down for you. |
00:33:39.93 | Ali | So PG&E has said that instead of just cutting the limbs, that they'll actually cut down this whole tree. So now PG&E has reached back to DPW saying we need an encroachment permit because we need to shut down this road to take this tree down. |
00:33:52.91 | Ali | So from a complicated project like this to a minor pothole, the Fix-It app takes care of all of these issues. |
00:34:00.30 | Ali | With that, I'll hand it back to Kevin. |
00:34:05.25 | Kevin McGowan | All right. Thank you, Ali. Ali is our project manager, one of them. We're going to have Sarah Korshidafard also talk to us this evening. And I have a few slides to cover first. So currently, Public Works needs to backfill two positions. Let's see. Go to our. There we are. Currently, Public Works needs to backfill two positions within our department. Over the last several months, there have been there's transfer to transfer the store collection system to the Sausalito Marin City Sanitary District. |
00:34:33.83 | Kevin McGowan | We currently have two vacancies in that division, and if that transfer occurs in the next few months, the district should be responsible for determining if backfilling those positions is necessary. Next slide, please. |
00:34:49.91 | Kevin McGowan | DPW has four main budget centers, which include road maintenance, park maintenance, engineering, and the Sewer Enterprise Fund. |
00:34:58.98 | Kevin McGowan | As noted in previous presentations to the council, our maintenance division needs to replace its older vehicles. |
00:35:06.79 | Kevin McGowan | We have quite a few of those. |
00:35:08.85 | Kevin McGowan | We are currently renting a work truck, and we anticipate that another parks truck is on its last legs, so to speak. |
00:35:17.62 | Kevin McGowan | and replacing in the next few months is necessary. |
00:35:21.24 | Kevin McGowan | Some of our vehicles are over 20 years old. So as part of our budget, we would like to include those as line items, at least for next fiscal year. |
00:35:29.40 | Kevin McGowan | In addition, the number of employees with the engineering division has outgrown the available space at City Hall. |
00:35:36.71 | Kevin McGowan | Some of our employees are occupying spaces that may not be compliant with current standards. |
00:35:43.95 | Kevin McGowan | The capital project capital program includes a project to convert the game room, which is downstairs to office space, which is needed to address the number of employees in public works in the public works engineering division. |
00:35:58.14 | Kevin McGowan | In addition, most cities need |
00:36:00.34 | Kevin McGowan | the assistance of engineering professionals over each year. |
00:36:05.70 | Kevin McGowan | For example, a traffic engineer is needed to address warrants for adding new stop signs or changing some of the constraints on each one of the public roads. In addition, a geotechnical engineer is needed to assist staff during heavy storm events. |
00:36:22.24 | Kevin McGowan | We do not have full-time licensed traffic engineers or geotechnical engineers on staff. |
00:36:27.76 | Kevin McGowan | And we will need to have on-call services, a on-call service contract next year for each of these professional services in case something does arrive. Next slide, please. |
00:36:42.74 | Kevin McGowan | The council also asked each department for their thoughts on reductions in cost to the city. |
00:36:50.03 | Kevin McGowan | A reduction in public works staff would be detrimental to the city in that the amount of maintenance work would be significantly reduced such that the city's amenities would not be adequately maintained. However, there may be some other areas where cost reductions may be realized. |
00:37:10.21 | Kevin McGowan | tree maintenance has become a large cost to the city. |
00:37:13.71 | Kevin McGowan | We spend more than $100,000 annually |
00:37:16.81 | Kevin McGowan | to remove trees in the right of way that the city did not plant or maintain. |
00:37:23.55 | Kevin McGowan | vegetation from the edge of the pavement or the curb, |
00:37:29.03 | Kevin McGowan | To the property line should be the responsibility of the fronting property owner. Modifying the municipal codes similar to other marine jurisdictions could reduce the cost to the city by requiring fronting property owners to maintain vegetation, including trees. |
00:37:46.22 | Kevin McGowan | Similarly, the sidewalk ordinance should be rewritten to note |
00:37:52.16 | Kevin McGowan | that the fronting property owner is to maintain sidewalks regardless of whether a tree pushed up the concrete or not. |
00:37:59.72 | Kevin McGowan | The city would remove and replace the tree, obviously, if we planted it. |
00:38:04.65 | Kevin McGowan | This change would not yield a significant savings to the city right away, but |
00:38:10.39 | Kevin McGowan | over time, it would yield an additional savings to the city. So it will take a little while. |
00:38:18.78 | Kevin McGowan | Another concept which we haven't been able to implement is developing our own water supply for water for watering our medians and parks. I've mentioned this in past years. This could be a savings to the city over time, especially when Sausalito has springs that run year round on some of our streets. |
00:38:39.75 | Unknown | you |
00:38:40.12 | Kevin McGowan | So now I'd like to turn the presentation over to Sarah Korshidafard, who is our project manager for many of our projects. And she's going to run through a few slides related to the capital improvement program. |
00:38:51.97 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you. |
00:38:52.16 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you. |
00:38:53.95 | Sarah Korshidafard | Good evening, Madam Mayor, council members, city manager, members of the public. |
00:38:59.02 | Sarah Korshidafard | I'm going to present the last three slides of our night presentation. The first one is related to our capital improvement program and some of our funding needs. |
00:39:09.72 | Sarah Korshidafard | One of the more challenging and complex tasks that are the function of our department is to develop the capital improvement program. And in 2025, many of our longstanding projects are moving from design and planning to construction. And that transition will require us to secure a fairly large funding at the cost of about $14 million that is excluding the grant funding that we have. |
00:39:38.11 | Sarah Korshidafard | In addition to that being complex, it is also time consuming and |
00:39:42.75 | Sarah Korshidafard | It takes definitely over a month to develop, and we will be presenting our CIP tonight to you as well. |
00:39:51.29 | Sarah Korshidafard | Also of interest to our department are safety issues related to the deferred maintenance of our roads, buildings, sidewalks and stairs. Next slide, please. |
00:40:04.70 | Sarah Korshidafard | In this next slide, I'm going to summarize some of our achievements and ongoing efforts. |
00:40:11.82 | Sarah Korshidafard | We anticipate that 22 of our capital improvement projects will be completed by June 2025. |
00:40:20.63 | Sarah Korshidafard | And this includes some of the long-avaded projects, such as the Ferry Landside Improvement Project that has started in 2017. |
00:40:30.50 | Sarah Korshidafard | Naming some of the other projects that we completed, the MLK, the tennis courts, the internship tennis courts that are up and running. We put the sea lion back on the water and the North Street steps, some of the old city hall flooring repairs and the Ferry Landside Improvement Project in construction on the screen. |
00:40:55.87 | Sarah Korshidafard | In addition to our CIP projects, our staff issued more than 600 permits over the past year only, and we also assisted PG&E in its fairly large |
00:41:09.91 | Sarah Korshidafard | conversion, electrical conversion system, electrical system conversion project that was happening in town. In addition to the permits, the CIP projects, our staff provide ongoing feedback and actually comments to building planning permits, especially with regards to compliance to our state and local laws, providing knowledge about stormwater management, about grading, drainage, and all other site work. Next slide, please. |
00:41:44.75 | Sarah Korshidafard | In this last of the three, I'm going to talk about some of our future goals and challenges, what is ahead of us. We're going to have many challenges, especially to advance our CIP projects and at the same time, maintaining the level of service to the public and making sure we are maintaining our infrastructures. Our staff have to work proactively and collaboratively with the other departments at the city, making sure our processes are streamlined and that we are responding to the public needs and desires. |
00:42:24.29 | Sarah Korshidafard | In addition to all those, we do have workforce and |
00:42:28.91 | Sarah Korshidafard | equipment needs coming up. We have to backfill two of our maintenance division positions and we also have to procure new equipment and machinery so that our maintenance staff could perform what they need to perform. |
00:42:47.51 | Sarah Korshidafard | With this, this concludes my end of the three slide presentation. And I would like to hand it back. |
00:42:57.55 | Sarah Korshidafard | Thank you. |
00:42:59.32 | Kevin McGowan | All right, one last slide. So many thanks to Sarah, Ali and Pat who don't usually come up and talk to you. And we kind of put them on the spot today, but I think they did great. So a couple other things. Public Works is a group of 21 individuals who are dedicated to their work and doing their best to address the needs of Sausalito residents. |
00:43:23.99 | Kevin McGowan | Having staff that are versed in multiple issues, such as repairs of two streets, buildings and parks will help the city reduce costs. |
00:43:35.05 | Kevin McGowan | I'm continually amazed at the willingness of our staff to step up and assist with almost any task. We have to wear multiple hats many different times. A lot of us don't really know sometimes how to repair a road or put a pothole in, but we have somebody on staff who does. And that's what's very important. So multiple hats for our public works employees is super important. |
00:43:58.57 | Kevin McGowan | our employees' efforts are what allows Sausalito to continue to thrive. So that concludes our 20-minute presentation, and we're here for any questions or comments. Thank you. |
00:44:09.52 | Joan Cox | Thank you so much. |
00:44:12.63 | Joan Cox | Sure. |
00:44:13.30 | Council Member Blousting | Thank you very much. And it was really nice to see Pat Ali and Sarah on the mic. So I love getting to know your team and appreciate all of the hard work. I wanted to ask specifically about sidewalks because you mentioned the trees and the responsibilities associated with homeowners versus the city. And I know that we heard, |
00:44:30.20 | Council Member Blousting | maybe it was in the spring of last year, a proposed sidewalk program. |
00:44:34.90 | Council Member Blousting | where the city would offer X amount to support towards improvements to sidewalks that the property managers wanted to take on. What's the status of that now? And do we think that that might help contribute to some of these issues with trees that you mentioned? |
00:44:48.66 | Kevin McGowan | So those are several different questions. So first up, our sidewalk program is moving ahead. We have one of our land development engineers, Sherry, who's moving forward with developing a plan. We have that all ready to go, but we would like to notify the property owners that this is coming towards them to give them plenty of time to move forward. Our emphasis is on Caledonia, on the east side of Caledonia, as well as on the west side of Bridgeway. In the same corridor right out in front of us here at City Hall. |
00:45:21.39 | Kevin McGowan | Now, about a year ago, I talked to you about a sidewalk program and the possibility of helping our residents out. The idea is that if folks, residents have to replace a lot of their sidewalk, the city would contribute to that up to about $1,000. We haven't moved forward with that at this point in time or develop the documentation, but I am anticipating that to happen before the summertime, because we want to move it forward and we want to bring it back to you to see if |
00:45:49.05 | Kevin McGowan | you would be interested in allocating funding to to help our citizens. |
00:45:53.12 | Council Member Blousting | And just a quick follow-on on that, that would also potentially help reduce our liability because insurance has been an issue for us? Yes. Great. Thank you. Thank you, Director McCallum. |
00:46:00.04 | Joan Cox | Thank you. Thank you. |
00:46:01.76 | Joan Cox | Thank you. Any other questions of Director McGowan? |
00:46:06.18 | Joan Cox | Okay? |
00:46:07.36 | Councilmember Sobieski | Just a quick one, Merit. The new vehicles you may need to purchase? I'm sorry, yes? Will any of them be electric? |
00:46:14.53 | Kevin McGowan | We need to look at that at this point. We know that we need maintenance vehicles. And when we look at the prices of these, we will take a look at electric trucks to see if they can actually work |
00:46:28.05 | Kevin McGowan | here in the city going up and down our hills. We've noticed that that could be a problem in the future, but we will develop options. |
00:46:34.85 | Kevin McGowan | options before we purchase any type of a truck like that. |
00:46:38.45 | Councilmember Sobieski | As you know, we invested some money in electric chargers for the city and the police department also had that same issue and on a trial basis got one vehicle. Will you come back when you're considering that to get some input from the council about the priority of electric vehicles given the city? |
00:46:57.70 | Councilmember Sobieski | Apples, oranges, choices. |
00:46:57.80 | Kevin McGowan | We will. |
00:46:59.18 | Kevin McGowan | we would be happy to do that because it has other consequences as well. If we put, |
00:47:05.21 | Kevin McGowan | electric vehicles at the corp yard, we'll have to get electricity to power those overnight time as well. So it'll take some more infrastructure to implement that type of thing. Thank you, sir. |
00:47:14.47 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
00:47:16.21 | Joan Cox | City Manager. |
00:47:17.09 | Brandon Phipps | I can. One of the things that was mentioned in the public works report is this idea of more space for city employees. If the city council does decide to relocate the corporation yard, that's going to mean we're going to need a couple more office spaces for people. And, you know, so the idea of adding more space where we have people under stairways and cluster together to make sure that the work environment is right for productivity is really important so that project is one that you may not be aware of but it is something that i believe is really important to align with future goals that the council may have regarding housing and that site |
00:47:57.12 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
00:47:58.69 | Joan Cox | All right. Thank you very much. We're going to move on. |
00:48:01.93 | Joan Cox | The next item on our agenda is communications. David, you're the first one up. I'm going to go ahead and call your name. David Lay. Okay. |
00:48:11.56 | Joan Cox | Yes. |
00:48:14.30 | Joan Cox | Mr. Lay, I last saw you when we had a big storm and your boat was pulled up at the outside of the bay model. |
00:48:23.43 | Joan Cox | We rescued you from the drink. |
00:48:26.65 | Joan Cox | I guess that was back in 2020. |
00:48:29.75 | Joan Cox | Like, |
00:48:30.43 | Joan Cox | I can't hear a thing in this room. Oh. |
00:48:32.98 | Paul King | So I've asked Jeff to help me out. Okay, will you speak into the mic? |
00:48:37.47 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
00:48:37.48 | Paul King | Will you speak into the mic? There. |
00:48:39.42 | Paul King | And if I can't understand something you say, he's going to relate it to me because I can't hear a thing. Okay. I mean, I can hear noise. Okay. So you're going to. |
00:48:49.70 | Joan Cox | So you're going to have two minutes to speak. We welcome you. |
00:48:53.34 | Paul King | Yeah, okay. |
00:48:55.86 | Paul King | I'm here to get you to put something on the agenda. |
00:48:59.61 | Paul King | And that is about climate change and a piece of work we need to do for ourselves to |
00:49:06.17 | Paul King | to get data, because data is what we need. |
00:49:09.49 | Paul King | So. |
00:49:11.28 | Paul King | Put that in there. |
00:49:11.86 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
00:49:12.46 | Joan Cox | Okay. |
00:49:12.57 | Paul King | Okay. |
00:49:12.67 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
00:49:13.75 | Paul King | Thank you. |
00:49:13.76 | Joan Cox | Yeah, pass that to one of you. You have to hand it to the clerk if you have something. |
00:49:19.89 | Paul King | The first thing is, um, |
00:49:23.67 | Paul King | No, no. |
00:49:25.19 | Paul King | Oh, yeah. Okay. |
00:49:28.49 | Paul King | Sorry. |
00:49:29.32 | Paul King | Um, |
00:49:30.79 | Joan Cox | Your time is limited. He has to keep talking. He's going to run out of time. |
00:49:31.21 | Paul King | I'm sorry, Ms. Limit. |
00:49:35.20 | Paul King | Paul King, M.O.A.: Population growth is is really the problem. Paul King, M.O.A.: you're looking at me and I. Paul King, M.O.A.: Since I was born, the population of the world has grown by a factor of four. |
00:49:50.84 | Paul King | the blue model has really got too many people. |
00:49:54.47 | Paul King | And the atmosphere cannot take that. |
00:49:57.67 | Paul King | Number two. |
00:49:59.51 | Paul King | The comparison of temperature to |
00:50:03.17 | Paul King | Uh, |
00:50:04.89 | Paul King | CO2? |
00:50:06.23 | Paul King | is undeniable. |
00:50:08.51 | Paul King | And three, this is a brand new chart, and the publication is the World Almanac. |
00:50:14.43 | Paul King | I made copies of that and it's all copyrighted material, so don't give it to your kids to take to school or we're going to be in trouble. I'm going to be in trouble. |
00:50:20.45 | Unknown | I'm going to be in trouble. |
00:50:21.41 | Unknown | you |
00:50:22.28 | Paul King | But |
00:50:23.84 | Paul King | You can see there that the end of that is going up. That means the rate of... |
00:50:28.79 | Paul King | of warming of the water is going up. |
00:50:32.27 | Paul King | But the next thing in four shows that, |
00:50:35.10 | Paul King | really |
00:50:36.13 | Paul King | It's not the water and it's not the rising of the ocean that we're worried about. It is the air. |
00:50:43.01 | Paul King | And in the five, it shows the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere over a number of years. And when you study that, you can see why I drew arrows there to get you to look. |
00:50:58.12 | Paul King | Was that three minutes? |
00:50:59.37 | Joan Cox | It's two minutes. |
00:51:00.51 | Paul King | Oh. |
00:51:01.24 | Joan Cox | But I'm going to give you 15, Jeff, we tell him, I'm giving him 15 more seconds because he paused as you were walking to the- Well, thank you. |
00:51:07.06 | Govinda | the diets. Go get it. |
00:51:10.28 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
00:51:10.76 | Paul King | Thank you very much. |
00:51:13.80 | Paul King | October 6th. |
00:51:15.97 | Paul King | Yeah. |
00:51:20.16 | Paul King | I got... |
00:51:21.00 | Paul King | I got tears in my eyes. |
00:51:25.29 | Paul King | is a comparison of sulfur and ozone. And we know how that was dealt with. But the sulfur problem was... |
00:51:36.34 | Paul King | acid rain across New England. |
00:51:39.24 | Paul King | And the ozone was a problem in South Africa. |
00:51:42.41 | Paul King | And those have kind of been cured, but not completely, because some of that was converted to HFC from CFC. |
00:51:49.67 | Paul King | Thank you. |
00:51:49.69 | Joan Cox | Jeff, you have to cut him off. |
00:51:50.89 | Paul King | Oh, |
00:51:51.44 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
00:51:51.78 | Joan Cox | Jeff. |
00:51:53.54 | Joan Cox | That's it, Mr. Lay. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. |
00:51:59.97 | Paul King | Mm-hmm. |
00:52:00.88 | Brandon Phipps | Well done. |
00:52:02.39 | Brandon Phipps | Thank you. |
00:52:03.09 | Paul King | What I'd like to do is get... Sure, I'm sorry, your time is up. Put it on an agenda and get a team to organize... |
00:52:04.32 | Brandon Phipps | Again, you- |
00:52:05.57 | Joan Cox | I'm here. |
00:52:05.92 | Joan Cox | I'm not sure. |
00:52:05.97 | Brandon Phipps | to do. |
00:52:06.02 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
00:52:08.67 | Joan Cox | So- |
00:52:10.02 | Joan Cox | Jeff, will you let him know if you leave his email address? I'm going to refer him to the chair of our Sustainability Commission. |
00:52:11.51 | Paul King | A way to get... |
00:52:13.79 | Paul King | I know. |
00:52:19.68 | Joan Cox | No. |
00:52:19.79 | Dilworth Cannon | Thank you. |
00:52:19.84 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
00:52:20.00 | Dilworth Cannon | Thank you. |
00:52:20.01 | Joan Cox | No. |
00:52:21.21 | Joan Cox | Jeff, you said you were going to tell him. |
00:52:23.37 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
00:52:24.08 | Joan Cox | Are you going to get his email address for us? |
00:52:24.50 | Councilmember Hoffman | I'm getting it. |
00:52:24.67 | Councilmember Hoffman | email. |
00:52:24.87 | Alice Merrill | . |
00:52:26.14 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
00:52:26.16 | Alice Merrill | Yeah. |
00:52:26.21 | Alice Merrill | Yeah. |
00:52:26.27 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
00:52:26.81 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
00:52:26.83 | Alice Merrill | Okay. |
00:52:27.81 | Joan Cox | All right, next up I have Alice Merrill. |
00:52:37.58 | Alice Merrill | Good evening. |
00:52:39.64 | Alice Merrill | I was just recently down in the number one parking lot. |
00:52:45.76 | Alice Merrill | And lo and behold, we've lost more parking spots. |
00:52:49.26 | Alice Merrill | Um, because Tracy way, which took all the bicycle parking now doesn't. So now it's all in the number one parking space. So I would very much like for you guys who cheerfully got rid of how many spaces to figure out, um, |
00:53:06.72 | Alice Merrill | how you're going to get them back. Cause you did say that you didn't want to lose them. So, um, |
00:53:14.18 | Alice Merrill | I'm always amazed at how changes happen around here without any word or I don't know. So that's all. I just noticed that we've lost even more parking spaces. Thank you. Thank you. Bebeke McDougall? |
00:53:31.14 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
00:53:43.51 | Ian | Thank you for acknowledging me, Babette McDougall, Sausalito resident. So thank you. Obviously, this public comment phase will include the presentations. I'm sorry, again, point of order issue, one of many. |
00:53:55.85 | Ian | that there ought to be a public comment specifically for special presentations or any presentation. So with this in mind, I'd like to say that I'd like to thank our Department of Public Works Director Kevin McGowan. I think he does great work and I think he's got a really good team, mighty good team. |
00:54:13.48 | Ian | The issue of |
00:54:14.80 | Ian | things coming out of this report, the fact |
00:54:17.34 | Ian | that we have to look at a serious redesign of City Hall. That's all great. |
00:54:21.14 | Ian | We have the corporation yard. We are really well poised. We may have to relocate more of Department of Public Works at the corporation yard. That actually makes practical sense to me. And I think we have a lot of solutions like that right in front of us. And I continue to encourage all of us to remember |
00:54:39.11 | Ian | All of you. |
00:54:40.18 | Ian | to remember that we need to work together. Because if we continue to divide and argue against each other, |
00:54:48.50 | Ian | We'll go down. |
00:54:49.85 | Ian | I mean, we're standing at the last threshold before we lose control of what this city is going to look like in the next 10 years. |
00:54:57.29 | Ian | And you've been warned by thousands of your constituents that don't ever expect that you will be well remembered upon your grave. |
00:55:08.54 | Ian | So with that in mind, I just have to say, |
00:55:11.46 | Ian | Who wants that? I don't. |
00:55:14.15 | Ian | We need to work together. |
00:55:16.32 | Ian | So we need to use that small d democracy model because so far, as the Greeks have said, it's so imperfect, it's easy to corrupt, |
00:55:26.26 | Ian | But there still is no other way to assure that each person may have a say in how their community is organized and run. |
00:55:36.02 | Ian | So this earthquake epicenter in Washington, D.C. has reverberated all the way to Sausalito. Although, frankly, we've had our own |
00:55:43.58 | Ian | problems. |
00:55:44.74 | Joan Cox | Thank you. Thank you. |
00:55:45.04 | Ian | Thank you. |
00:55:46.04 | Joan Cox | Jeff Jacobs? |
00:55:54.59 | Govinda | Thank you, Madam Mayor, City Council. |
00:55:58.93 | Govinda | Staff and |
00:56:00.60 | Govinda | those people who showed up. |
00:56:03.99 | Govinda | And I feel like the more people that show up, the better |
00:56:09.02 | Govinda | Democracy will fare, whether it's nationally, |
00:56:13.22 | Govinda | or here locally in Sausalito. |
00:56:17.58 | Govinda | Not much time, two minutes. Thank you for putting the public comment |
00:56:23.38 | Govinda | Back to the beginning of the meeting, |
00:56:27.97 | Govinda | The first item that I promised Govinda |
00:56:31.55 | Govinda | who runs the Sartage restaurant |
00:56:36.21 | Govinda | That... |
00:56:37.31 | Govinda | He has been attempting to open a buffet. |
00:56:40.55 | Govinda | that there is a paucity |
00:56:43.70 | Govinda | of cheap eateries here in Sausalito. |
00:56:47.36 | Govinda | And an Indian buffet... |
00:56:50.20 | Govinda | Seems like it would just hit the spot. |
00:56:53.74 | Govinda | It has been delayed because of the health department. |
00:56:57.94 | Govinda | The same thing happened |
00:57:00.54 | Govinda | During, I don't know if anybody remembers this, the Sartaj under Bossy and Belbir, the former owners, used to run a free Thanksgiving feast. |
00:57:09.96 | Govinda | two hours before Thanksgiving, |
00:57:12.73 | Govinda | the health department showed up and told them they could no longer do it. |
00:57:17.65 | Govinda | resourceful people that they are, |
00:57:19.85 | Govinda | They went to 4th Street in San Rafael to an Indian restaurant there, and they got enough food and drink. |
00:57:26.70 | Govinda | from there to be able to complete their mission. But they never did that again. |
00:57:33.18 | Govinda | So I don't know if it's the county or the city that runs |
00:57:39.17 | Govinda | the health department interaction with restaurants here, but I wanna see this buffet open and quickly. And please no more delays. |
00:57:49.82 | Govinda | I want to eat a meal for less. |
00:57:53.01 | Govinda | than $10. |
00:57:55.01 | Govinda | Thank you. |
00:57:56.97 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
00:57:56.99 | Govinda | IT'S NOT A LITTLE BIT. |
00:57:57.11 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
00:57:57.19 | Joan Cox | Thank you. City Clerk. |
00:58:03.39 | City Clerk | No further public comment? |
00:58:04.62 | Joan Cox | Okay, we will close public comment, we'll close communications and move on to the consent calendar. Matters listed under the consent calendar are considered routine and non-controversial, require no discussion, are expected to have unanimous council support |
00:58:18.96 | Joan Cox | and may be enacted by the Council in one motion. |
00:58:22.47 | Joan Cox | We have five items on consent. I'm removing one. We're continuing 3B to our next meeting. So we have remaining 3A, adopt the draft minutes from March 18, 2025. 3C, review and approve the state-required annual progress report on implementation of the housing element. 3D, waiver of second reading and adoption of Ordinance No. 04-2025, an ordinance of the City Council of the City of Sausalito Municipal Code, re-adopting Chapter 2.60, Military Equipment Use Policy, and 3E, receive and file the Sausalito Police Department's Crime and Traffic Report Calendar Year 2025 First Quarter Report. Any questions regarding consent items? |
00:59:04.96 | Joan Cox | I'll open it up to public comment on the consent calendar. I have no speaker slips. |
00:59:21.60 | Joan Cox | All right, Ms. McDougall, I'll call you first. |
00:59:28.00 | Ian | Thank you for allowing me to speak with regard to the consent calendar items. I just want to say... |
00:59:34.27 | Ian | that, remember, these people have your constituents. They reminded you that they are your constituents. They're the ones who cast the votes. And thousands of them have reached out to you one way or the other. |
00:59:48.06 | Ian | To let you know that we want to conserve it. By the way, is our city attorney attending this meeting today? |
00:59:48.79 | Mika Stefani | No. |
00:59:48.84 | Councilmember Hoffman | Bye. |
00:59:48.87 | Mika Stefani | Oh, yeah. |
00:59:54.39 | Ian | Why isn't he? |
00:59:55.03 | Joan Cox | prison. |
00:59:55.37 | Ian | Thank you. |
00:59:56.04 | Joan Cox | We're not going to answer questions. This is your opportunity. |
00:59:57.63 | Ian | But why isn't he present? That is what he's saying. |
00:59:59.00 | Joan Cox | That is present. |
00:59:59.47 | Ian | Well, I don't know that, do I? So here's the point. We need to be much more conservative in our approach to governing Sausalito. We cannot continue to push the lines in even color near them or outside them. |
01:00:12.75 | Ian | I believe in the redemptive spirit of the soul. This is the Easter season. I think we need to remember what the constituents are asking you to do, and they're asking you to reel it in. |
01:00:22.33 | Ian | Special interest may not win here. |
01:00:25.03 | Ian | What is really important is the character of this town going forward. And if you are not the oath keepers and the guardians of this character, then who do we rely on? |
01:00:36.49 | Ian | We really do have to work together on this. |
01:00:39.72 | Ian | So this housing element, the way it's been handled so far, has engendered a great deal of mistrust among your constituents. They have told you that. |
01:00:47.78 | Ian | And I'm begging you. |
01:00:49.55 | Ian | Consent item calendar stuff is not really a compatible deal. Everything needs to be carefully passed through and |
01:00:55.91 | Ian | so that the citizens are finally on board with what's going on. |
01:01:00.08 | Ian | There's a lot that they're not too happy about. |
01:01:02.66 | Ian | I'm one. I have a few complaints. How much time have we got? |
01:01:06.48 | Ian | Thank you. I really appreciate your consideration for your constituent will, majority constituent will. Thank you. |
01:01:14.92 | Joan Cox | Thank you. Next is... |
01:01:19.41 | Joan Cox | Well, I can't read the... |
01:01:21.31 | Joan Cox | No, it's this one. I can't. |
01:01:23.71 | Joan Cox | Oh, okay, Jeff Jacob. |
01:01:32.38 | Govinda | Okay. |
01:01:35.03 | Govinda | Thank you again. |
01:01:37.39 | Govinda | And Chag Sameach, which... |
01:01:40.11 | Govinda | In Hebrew means happy Passover. |
01:01:44.31 | Govinda | Thank you. |
01:01:46.78 | Govinda | I maybe I can answer the question of who we can rely on. |
01:01:52.16 | Govinda | Uh... |
01:01:54.13 | Govinda | It says in the... |
01:01:56.38 | Govinda | Torah, the Holy Torah. |
01:01:59.08 | Govinda | Do not rely on the flesh of |
01:02:02.13 | Govinda | Even your closest brothers and sisters, I'm paraphrasing this, |
01:02:07.06 | Govinda | Rely on the one. |
01:02:09.84 | Govinda | Um... |
01:02:11.23 | Govinda | I'll talk on the consent calendar, though. |
01:02:13.86 | Govinda | First, about the bicycles. |
01:02:18.20 | Govinda | From the last meeting on March 18th the minutes of March 18th and |
01:02:24.17 | Govinda | that there was half a million offered for a bike path, |
01:02:27.82 | Govinda | And |
01:02:30.04 | Govinda | There were a lot of people that came |
01:02:32.84 | Govinda | To. |
01:02:34.35 | Govinda | Speak against that. |
01:02:36.44 | Govinda | As a bicyclist with no car, |
01:02:38.78 | Govinda | It feels a little personal. |
01:02:42.09 | Govinda | that a bicycle |
01:02:45.52 | Govinda | has a lot of advantages. I understand I'm from Detroit. I understand the pleasure of cars. I've had many of them. |
01:02:54.58 | Govinda | that |
01:02:56.13 | Govinda | to |
01:02:57.01 | Govinda | have |
01:02:58.11 | Govinda | Bicycles through the city cost nothing. |
01:03:03.88 | Govinda | And |
01:03:05.50 | Govinda | For the same thing with the housing element, that |
01:03:08.62 | Govinda | to encourage people to talk against |
01:03:11.78 | Govinda | low-cost housing, and against bicycles. |
01:03:15.29 | Govinda | to have a lot of people pack |
01:03:17.06 | Govinda | This meeting to do that does not seem |
01:03:20.21 | Govinda | real advantageous to me. |
01:03:23.10 | Govinda | I'd like to congratulate, this is another consent calendar item, |
01:03:27.66 | Govinda | Only 16 arrests. |
01:03:29.90 | Govinda | The first quarter in Sausalito, the police department is doing |
01:03:34.64 | Govinda | a much, much better job. |
01:03:36.62 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
01:03:37.16 | Govinda | And |
01:03:37.29 | Joan Cox | And, uh... |
01:03:38.29 | Govinda | We love them. Thank you. |
01:03:40.46 | City Clerk | No further public speakers. |
01:03:41.78 | Joan Cox | Okay, we will move on to the next item on our, oh, I'll go ahead and entertain a motion to adopt items 3A, 3C, 3D, and 3E of the consent calendar. |
01:03:53.54 | Mayor | So moved. |
01:03:54.20 | Mayor | Exactly. |
01:03:54.40 | Council Member Blousting | . |
01:03:54.44 | Mayor | and |
01:03:55.11 | Joan Cox | All in favor? Aye. That motion carries five zero. We'll now move on to public hearing items. |
01:04:01.79 | Joan Cox | City Manager, City Attorney. |
01:04:05.02 | Joan Cox | If you could, um, |
01:04:08.02 | Joan Cox | Help us. We noticed this for 8.15 p.m. It's only 7.45 p.m. So should we take a business item and come back? |
01:04:17.47 | City Attorney | I think that would be appropriate, particularly if the appellant is not there. |
01:04:23.34 | Joan Cox | Well, I don't know if the appellant is here. |
01:04:24.73 | Unknown | I can confirm the appellant is present. |
01:04:28.05 | Joan Cox | Okay, so, but I mean, I think to the mayor. When we noticed it publicly, what time was it noticed for? |
01:04:30.03 | City Attorney | I think to the mayor. When was it noticed that? |
01:04:38.51 | Unknown | Thank you. |
01:04:38.55 | City Clerk | I believe it was 7 p.m. |
01:04:40.37 | Unknown | when he did it. |
01:04:40.74 | Joan Cox | The public hearing notice was 7 p.m.? |
01:04:40.76 | Unknown | the |
01:04:43.36 | City Clerk | And just for the record, those are estimates that we do for convenience for the public. |
01:04:49.33 | Joan Cox | Please don't call out from... |
01:04:51.12 | Joan Cox | The audience, if you'd like to speak, you can step out into the hallway. |
01:04:54.21 | Joan Cox | All right, then we're gonna go ahead with the public hearing item. |
01:04:57.09 | Joan Cox | First item is 4A. |
01:04:59.32 | Joan Cox | Appeal of a retroactive design review permit, 204-00049, |
01:05:05.61 | Joan Cox | issued by the Sausalito Planning Commission to conditionally approve the expansion of a second floor deck at 27 Central Avenue. |
01:05:12.53 | Joan Cox | First, welcome, Senior Planner Matthew Mandich. First, may I confirm that we... |
01:05:20.92 | Joan Cox | provided the notice required by law, sir? |
01:05:23.89 | Unknown | Yes, Mayor. |
01:05:24.53 | Joan Cox | All right, then we will open the public hearing and we'll hear your staff report. |
01:05:28.82 | Matthew Mandich | Thank you. Good evening, members of the council, mayor, vice mayor. Yes, this is appeal of a longstanding code enforcement case. This case has been going on now for almost eight years. It was actually adjudicated by the council in 2018, and both Mayor Cox and Council Member Hoffman were on the city council at that time. So maybe a bit of a familiar item for them. Again, very longstanding code case that we're hoping to get a final resolution on this evening. Next slide, please. |
01:05:58.37 | Matthew Mandich | So this is the location, unfortunately, I believe the laser is not working. But as you can see outlined in yellow there, that is the subject property, 27 Central Avenue, right at the kind of hairpin turn there on Central at the base of Cable Roadway. And 31 Central is the other property adjacent there, which is another property in question, whose view has been impacted by the constructions at 27 Central. Next slide, please. |
01:06:24.71 | Matthew Mandich | So project summary, this is an appeal of a retroactive design review permit that was issued by the planning commission approving a deck expansion and addition of a roof cover to a second floor deck on the eastern elevation of 27 Central Avenue. I've highlighted some plans there from the original permit zoning permit in 2017, which we'll discuss in a second and the addition or extension of the deck as it exists today. Next slide please. |
01:06:49.43 | Matthew Mandich | So, again, there's a lot of background on this case, so bear with me here as we kind of go over that. Obviously, the appellant will have, you know, their version of the story. The city has our version, and I'm doing my best here to kind of memorialize the events as they exist in the city records that we have. So a zoning permit, the genesis of this whole story here, was issued in 2017 by CDD for a proposed project on May 15, 2017, so pretty much almost exactly eight years ago. Building permit was subsequently issued on July 6, and the project was constructed. However, after that project was constructed, the neighbor at that time of 31 Central wrote into CDD with a complaint of a view impact and the idea that the zoning permit was not properly noticed, was not posted on site as is required by the code. A stop work order was issued on July 24, 2017, to investigate this claim. After an investigation was performed, CDD found at the time, the staff, in 2017, that no confirmation of a zoning permit was available to show that it was publicly posted. As such, CDD required the applicant to repost the zoning permit, November 29th, 2017, and that zoning permit, after being reposted, was subsequently appealed by the neighbor at 31 Central within the 10-day appeal period. Just to remind, this is things that happened a long time ago. This is not the subject of the hearing tonight, but rather an appeal of a design review permit that was issued in 2024. But this is just the genesis of this story and really water under the bridge at this point. So next slide, please. |
01:08:23.22 | Matthew Mandich | Planning Commission meeting April 11th 2018 so the zoning permit was appealed this administrative decision as such you went up to the Planning Commission for review at this hearing the Planning Commission ruled that indeed a design review permit was required the zoning permit was not the appropriate permit for this project as there was a potential for view impacts that PC ruling was subsequently appealed by the applicant up to the City Council this is when the City Council first heard this item back in July 31st, 2018. After reviewing this case uh at the time the city council did not uh denied the appeal stating that they agreed with the ruling of the planning commission that view potential view impacts or rather in this case since it was constructed realized view impacts were observed and at that time the city council gave two options to the appellant who's here tonight um they said either submit for a design review permit as the planning commission had ruled or demolished the extension um resolution five three nine five seven three nine was adopted by the city council next slide please just have a look at that here fortunately the writing is a little bit small for the screen here but basically the portion that i've highlighted and read there stating that the city council denies the appeal there are view impacts that exist and a design review permit is required as specified by the planning commission next slide please |
01:09:40.46 | Matthew Mandich | So, um, |
01:09:42.75 | Matthew Mandich | Eventually, after some code enforcement actions and the opening of a code enforcement case in 2018, a design review permit application was submitted to CDD on October 25th. A first of several planning commission meetings was held February 27th, 2019. At this hearing, the planning commission instructed the applicant to submit revised plans to reduce the view impact created by the deck and continue the hearing. Between hearings, the applicant submitted revised plans that proposed 45 degree cuts to the northeast portion of the deck and roof covering to reduce the review impact. |
01:10:16.93 | Matthew Mandich | The applicant also proposed at this time to add another third floor deck and enclose the existing second floor deck with windows and a sliding glass door. Next slide, please. |
01:10:26.53 | Matthew Mandich | So these are the plans that were presented at that hearing. Unfortunately, I can't quit get up there, but the corners there show that the deck has been reduced by 45 degrees on each side. And you can see there too that there is a third upper level deck proposed at that time, March 25th, 2019. Next slide, please. |
01:10:47.77 | Matthew Mandich | So these plans were considered by the Planning Commission at that hearing. PC reviewed the project and suggested edits to further reduce potential impacts and decrease project massing rather than increase that massing as the applicant had proposed. And they continued the hearing to May 29th. The next Planning Commission hearing, additional materials were requested as above to continue to reduce the view impact. No more submitted, no materials are presented. So that meeting was again continued until June 26, 2019. Next slide, please. |
01:11:19.13 | Matthew Mandich | So at this hearing, the applicant's architect submitted a certification of story polls, which really in this case were not story polls, but rather visual aids, which we'll see in a second. A set of revised plans was submitted to the department on June 18th, 2019, which shows 60 degree corner cuts of the northeastern section of the roof. This edition of the plans shows a removal of approximately 7.7 square feet of decking, 13.9 square feet of roof cover, and these were the plans that were eventually approved by the Planning Commission. Next slide, please. So these are the plans here with the increased cut in the deck up on the upper left here. You can see the slice on the side, yep, right in there. So that's the 60-degree cut that was proposed, And these were the plans that were approved by the Planning Commission at that hearing. Next slide, please. So this is where we see the visual aids that show the view impact and the removal of the 60 degree cut right there. That black material, tarping, is used to show what part of the deck will be removed. And as we can see in the upper slides in particular, not the lower because of the fog, that you can see how that upper roof area encroaches onto the San Francisco skyline. And that is the area that was proposed to be removed in the approved plans. Next slide, please. |
01:12:36.72 | Matthew Mandich | So. |
01:12:37.80 | Matthew Mandich | Plan Commission meeting June 26, 2019, where those plans were presented, the PC believes that the revised design does reduce the view impact to 31 Central Avenue, as they were proposed. They passed a resolution, adopted a resolution passing that at that meeting, and it approved a retroactive design review permit with specific conditions. The conditions attached to the project were conditions of approval that stipulate that the removal of portions of the existing deck and roof cupboard are required as shown on the approved plan and as seen in the visual aids in the last slide. |
01:13:08.85 | Matthew Mandich | The applicant is given two months at this time to apply for a building permit and six months to carry out the removal of these sections of the deck. The application is subject to code enforcement actions if there is failure to comply. So this is all in 2019 ruling of the Planning Commission going forward with the deck reduction that we just saw. Next slide, please. |
01:13:28.03 | Matthew Mandich | So, unfortunately, the applicant fails to comply with the conditions of approval attached to this Planning Commission resolution. No action is taken by the applicant on the approved retroactive design review permit. And no code enforcement actions are taken by the city at this time due to flux in staffing and just a lack of attention to the matter at that time in the city, unfortunately. That design review permit that was issued in 2018 with the 60 degree cuts showing the removal of those portions of the deck eventually expires after two years as design review permits do it expired on june 26 2021 |
01:14:03.94 | Matthew Mandich | The code case, however, that was opened in 2018, originally attached to this project, stagnates but remains active as code enforcement cases do not expire and remains active and unresolved until 2023 when the code enforcement officer at that time, Paul Van Hook, ticked on the case. Next slide, please. And with that, I'm going to pass over to our new code enforcement officer, Justin Goger-Malo, to present on the code enforcement actions that took place. Thank you. |
01:14:35.18 | Joan Cox | Thank you, Mr. Mandich and welcome, Mr. Hallow and welcome to the Sausalito City staff team. |
01:14:41.73 | Justin Gokermelo | Excellent. Well... |
01:14:42.88 | Justin Gokermelo | Thank you for having me. |
01:14:44.53 | Justin Gokermelo | esteemed members of the council, Mayor Cox, |
01:14:47.84 | Justin Gokermelo | city employees who are helping out today. |
01:14:51.06 | Justin Gokermelo | I just wanted to start by saying |
01:14:53.76 | Justin Gokermelo | My name is Justin Gokermelo. |
01:14:55.90 | Justin Gokermelo | Code enforcement officer for City of Sausalito. I'm going to ask the city clerk to pause the time. This does not go towards their time. |
01:15:02.20 | Justin Gokermelo | Okay. |
01:15:04.78 | Justin Gokermelo | Sure. First name, Justin. And then the last name's a tricky one, given my parents. They went with Goger, G-O-G-E-R, and then a space for some reason. And then Malo, M-A-L-O. It's a mouthful. |
01:15:21.37 | Justin Gokermelo | So I'm here today to provide a clear and chronological overview of the code enforcement timeline. There's a lot that's happened, but I feel that it's really crucial to break this down into small little chunks so that you can see the pattern and the cycle that we all seem to be stuck in repeating itself. |
01:15:40.03 | Joan Cox | Okay. And so, city clerk, how much more time does staff have for their presentation? |
01:15:47.12 | City Clerk | We have six minutes. |
01:15:48.42 | Justin Gokermelo | Okay. |
01:15:49.04 | Justin Gokermelo | Perfect. |
01:15:49.97 | Justin Gokermelo | Thank you. |
01:15:50.63 | Justin Gokermelo | So this all started, as Matthew had said, with the request for a design review permit application or demolition permit. |
01:16:00.48 | Justin Gokermelo | These were not received, which required code enforcement actions in October 1st with a compliance order and October 15th with a citation issued, which then resulted in a design permit application being received. I have to say throughout all of this, I do need to point out that the staff really recognizes how difficult this process has been, particularly with all the disruptions that you'll see throughout the timeline and staff transitions, the pandemic hit, and we recognize that both of the applicants' engagement in this has been very, |
01:16:38.20 | Justin Gokermelo | very attentive to our requests and we really appreciate their interest in trying to resolve this matter. |
01:16:47.51 | Justin Gokermelo | So after we received that design review application, it was reviewed and we had another public meeting where the planning Commission adopted a resolution once again, bringing us back to the beginning, asking for. |
01:17:02.67 | Justin Gokermelo | a certain change to protect the view. It's always about the view that we're trying to get resolved here. And this was not addressed. And then no building permits were obtained, no work was initiated, and the pandemic hit. |
01:17:19.66 | Justin Gokermelo | Code enforcement was transferred over to the police department, and the case was administratively closed at the time. It was then reopened again in January of 2021, where the code enforcement officer issued a new courtesy letter just reminding the applicants that the case was active, required conditions hadn't been filled, and the permit was set to expire in June 2021. Again, no action, and code enforcement |
01:17:51.79 | Justin Gokermelo | was required to get to the next step where a design review modification application was submitted. |
01:17:57.86 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
01:17:57.88 | Justin Gokermelo | Is there another question? |
01:17:57.93 | Joan Cox | Is there another slide we should be looking at? |
01:17:59.50 | Justin Gokermelo | You can advance through. There's really only two code enforcement slides, but it's really gonna be that same pattern over and over again, where we are receiving what planning commission and city council have asked for. It's not being acted upon. Code enforcement action is required to get to the next step. If there's no code enforcement action, we don't see any action from the applicants. And that cycle continues to repeat. |
01:18:04.94 | Joan Cox | the one you're doing. |
01:18:26.98 | Justin Gokermelo | until |
01:18:28.29 | Justin Gokermelo | We get to a point where there are now windows added which further impact the view so code enforcement action is taken to |
01:18:39.26 | Justin Gokermelo | try to prevent |
01:18:41.81 | Justin Gokermelo | that from going any further and escalating, and there is a series of escalating citations that are issued, $100, $200, $500, |
01:18:52.34 | Justin Gokermelo | And then |
01:18:53.60 | Justin Gokermelo | Again, a new design review application was submitted. |
01:18:57.45 | Justin Gokermelo | And at that point, it was not acted upon. And we're back to where we are today, where we are asking again for the impact of the view to be resolved and to get the project in line with the general planning and to meet the required design review findings. |
01:19:17.82 | Justin Gokermelo | There's been a lot of opportunities to get in compliance. Staff is still available to the applicants to work through this and see if we can get to the end of this and resolve it according to the code standards. |
01:19:31.74 | Joan Cox | Okay. |
01:19:33.12 | Joan Cox | Is that it? That's it. Okay, I had a question. So you said that another design review permit application was... |
01:19:40.36 | Joan Cox | submitted and that no action was taken. |
01:19:43.42 | Joan Cox | my understanding is that |
01:19:45.51 | Joan Cox | the |
01:19:46.27 | Joan Cox | application. |
01:19:47.67 | Joan Cox | was issued it was heard by the planning commission on may 8th |
01:19:52.28 | Joan Cox | 2024 and conditionally approved and that the resolution of approval was appealed by the applicant to the city council. |
01:20:00.63 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
01:20:00.66 | Justin Gokermelo | Yes, that is correct. I think in referring to no action taken, I'm referring to advancing the requests of either removing the obstructed view elements or submitting a new plan that addresses those issues rather than what had been submitted, which were just enlargements on the structure size, which is how we got windows added as well. |
01:20:27.09 | Joan Cox | And so the last citation that was issued by your department was issued on March 7 2024 is the code enforcement case still open since the design, since the new design review permit has not yet been approved. Yes. |
01:20:41.42 | Justin Gokermelo | It is still open. It does not expire. That code case from 2018 is still open. And it is... |
01:20:50.38 | Justin Gokermelo | At this point, we're hoping that the applicants will be able to move on and take the recommendations and resolve some things. If not, I |
01:20:58.66 | Justin Gokermelo | I'm really afraid that we might have to go back to enforcement actions again in order to get to the next step. And we'd all really love to avoid that if possible. |
01:21:07.74 | Joan Cox | And I note that a number of citations have been issued exceeding $1,000. Have those citations been paid? |
01:21:14.53 | Justin Gokermelo | Thank you. |
01:21:15.30 | Justin Gokermelo | Um, |
01:21:16.05 | Justin Gokermelo | To date, I believe all of the citations that I'm aware of have been paid. I did not encounter any over the $500 amount during my review of the case, which is very, very long review and there's a lot of material, but I believe that those three |
01:21:36.75 | Justin Gokermelo | final citations have all been paid up in full. |
01:21:39.82 | Joan Cox | Great. Okay. Thank you so much. |
01:21:41.04 | Justin Gokermelo | So. |
01:21:41.68 | Justin Gokermelo | Thank you. |
01:21:41.69 | Joan Cox | Exactly. |
01:21:41.85 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
01:21:41.88 | Justin Gokermelo | Thank you. |
01:21:41.90 | Joan Cox | Questions of staff? |
01:21:43.30 | Unknown | Just wanted to note, Mayor, that there are some additional slides that Matthew will finish the presentation with. Oh, I... Apologies if we gave the wrong... Yeah. Yeah. |
01:21:49.19 | Joan Cox | Oh, I apologize. |
01:21:52.06 | Joan Cox | Yeah. |
01:21:52.31 | Unknown | Yeah, indications. |
01:21:53.07 | Joan Cox | All right, so I don't know how much time is left. It was 50, we allocated 15 minutes to staff, so. |
01:21:53.10 | Unknown | I don't know. |
01:22:00.78 | Joan Cox | Okay. |
01:22:02.55 | Joan Cox | Sorry, I didn't know. |
01:22:03.26 | Matthew Mandich | Oh, no worries at all, Mayor. No worries. We'll make this brief. Just wrap it up here. So, yes, those citations did prompt the submittal of a new design review permit application that was submitted March 13th last year following those code enforcement actions. A review of that submittal showed that the project is compliant with the zoning standards of the R225 zoning district. However, it's not consistent with general PAM policies, which govern private views, as well as design review finding number four, which also governs the obstruction of views photographic evidence shows that the San Francisco skyline which is a protected view in our code is indeed obstructed by the deck extension as viewed from the primary viewing areas of 31 Central Avenue. Next slide please. |
01:22:43.64 | Matthew Mandich | Just again, a highlight of that image there showing the deck extension and the visual aids there showing the area that will be removed by that approved design review permit. Next slide, please. So the Planning Commission did a rule on this in 2024. We were here in this very room last year for this project. They approved the project with a retroactive design review as the same conditions as before. So again, rinse and repeat back in the cycle. The conditions require that within two months of approval of that last permit, the applicant must apply for building permits to remove portions of the existing deck and roof. If that removal does not occur within six months of issuance, a building permit application will be subject to code enforcement fines. We do have code enforcement officers here in-house now. We have our new code enforcement officerer Malo or Malo, excuse me, and we will be very much moving forward with the enforcement of these fines if these conditions are not met this time. Next slide, please. So, again, that was the design re-permit that was issued last year. It was appealed by the applicant slash appellant of 27 Central, Mika Stefani, in a timely matter. The appellant wishes to appeal the decision of the Planning Commission which is what you're ruling on today this appeal regarding the approval of the retroactive design review permit which requires alterations to the existing enclosed deck the appellant argues there is no in view pack no view impact and that the view is determined at time of purchase the appellant also states that the views impacted are not primary views and that the photos are misleading the appellant cites a change in circumstances prior neighbor consent and increasing property values as justification to retain the expansion next slide please so staff's response for this is that again as our code enforcement officer already said the appellant has received multiple rulings from the planning commission and the city council stating a view impact does in fact exist and must be remedied. The appellant failed to implement previously approved design review permit and associated conditions of approval requiring reduction. The appellant also installed additional windows and enclosed the space without permits and the appellant ignored the direction of city council and the planning commission on multiple occasions and was subject to numerous code enforcement actions. Again, this is a longstanding eight-year case that we'd like to get some conclusion and resolution on today. So next slide, please. With that, staff recommends that the City Council deny the appeal in front of them today, as was done in the past, and uphold the Planning Commission resolution approving retroactive design review permit with the attached conditions of approval requiring deck reduction and associated code enforcement actions. Thank you. |
01:25:09.71 | Joan Cox | Can you advise when the current owner acquired the property, the current appellant? |
01:25:15.05 | Matthew Mandich | Sure. |
01:25:15.84 | Matthew Mandich | 31 set the 27 central. Yes. |
01:25:18.27 | Joan Cox | Yes. |
01:25:18.71 | Matthew Mandich | I do not know. |
01:25:22.94 | Matthew Mandich | 2013. |
01:25:27.31 | Joan Cox | The appellant. |
01:25:28.66 | Matthew Mandich | Well, in this case, the appellant is both the applicant and appellant as they applied for the retroactive design review permit as stipulated and then appealed the approval of that permit. |
01:25:32.29 | Joan Cox | Right. |
01:25:38.57 | Joan Cox | But one of the arguments to the |
01:25:42.84 | Joan Cox | to the conditions of approval. Can you go back to your second to the last slide? |
01:26:05.70 | Joan Cox | They are saying that the... |
01:26:12.45 | Joan Cox | No, prior one, please. |
01:26:17.77 | Joan Cox | Okay, they are saying that there is no view impact and that view is determined at the time of purchase. |
01:26:23.17 | Joan Cox | But if they purchased it in 2013, then |
01:26:27.42 | Matthew Mandich | They are referring to the view of 31 central. |
01:26:30.93 | Joan Cox | Okay, and when did 31 Central |
01:26:32.86 | Matthew Mandich | Uh, there's since this whole case has started in the last eight years, the property has changed hands. I believe three times. Um, when was the property acquired most recently? 2021. |
01:26:43.84 | Joan Cox | Okay, and since 2021, the appellant has paid |
01:26:48.43 | Joan Cox | numerous fines from the code enforcement folks. |
01:26:51.86 | Unknown | Correct. Those that were identified. Yes. |
01:26:53.26 | Joan Cox | identified yet. |
01:26:54.07 | Joan Cox | Any other questions? |
01:26:56.21 | Joan Cox | Yes. |
01:26:56.53 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
01:26:57.85 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
01:26:58.93 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you for that presentation. But I believe that when the neighbor purchased the property, there was the knowledge that there was an order to remove and reduce the deck. |
01:27:10.71 | Unknown | That is correct, Councilmember. |
01:27:11.72 | Councilmember Hoffman | And that was relied upon when they purchased the property. |
01:27:13.68 | Unknown | That is correct, yes. |
01:27:17.73 | Councilmember Hoffman | Okay. |
01:27:17.86 | Joan Cox | Okay. |
01:27:18.45 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
01:27:18.49 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
01:27:19.09 | Unknown | Thank you. |
01:27:20.66 | Joan Cox | Mm-hmm. |
01:27:23.85 | Joan Cox | All right. At this point, we will hear a presentation from the appellant. You have 10 minutes. |
01:27:45.27 | Mika Stefani | Good evening, Madam Mayor vice mayor and this team to Council members today I want to talk to you about why we're appealing the planning Commission decision which failed to address the change of circumstance that occurred on June 2019. |
01:28:00.89 | Mika Stefani | The design review failed to comply with the city council ruling in 2018 that the view is determined at time of purchase. What I'm showing you here actually is the view from 31 central what was presented earlier in the staff response was simply the view in the far right. |
01:28:18.85 | Mika Stefani | 10%. |
01:28:20.35 | Mika Stefani | of this total view. Next slide, please. |
01:28:25.82 | Mika Stefani | And here I want to show you the facade of 27 Central, as well as the interior of the addition at 27 Central. Next slide, please. |
01:28:37.90 | Mika Stefani | So, first of all, I realize that this feels like it's going in circles and circles again. And every time the circle happens, we are able to get consent from the neighbor to allow us to build this addition. Over here, we can see that on May 5th, 2017, 31 Central signed the written consent to our proposed addition in exchange for a tree trimming. |
01:29:00.18 | Mika Stefani | This consent fulfilled the community outreach requirement for the zoning permit application. Next slide please. |
01:29:08.41 | Mika Stefani | Shortly afterward on May 9th, 31 Central cut the branches and limbs from our oaks to acquire the panoramic view that they have now. As you see on the left, they initially had no view of San Francisco and on the right, you can see that they acquired the view of the Sausalito Hill and San Francisco skyline as well. Next slide please. |
01:29:30.79 | Mika Stefani | As a result, after the execution of the agreement where they agreed to let us build the addition, you can see in this photo 31 731 central panoramic view after the tree work with our structurally completed edition on the far right, it is so small that even. |
01:29:49.21 | Mika Stefani | My little image is covering it. |
01:29:51.97 | Mika Stefani | So now you sit, |
01:29:53.52 | Mika Stefani | you know there's no view impact from our addition downtown San Francisco and all the other protected views to Angel Island are clearly visible from the primary vantage points and this panorama existed at the time that 31 central submitted a late appeal claiming our addition impacted the view that existed at time of purchase before she trimmed the trees next slide please |
01:30:18.34 | Mika Stefani | So here in 2018, the retroactive design review ignores 90% of the view. The initial review ignored the newly acquired panorama because it was not part of the 2017 time of purchase. Thus, it only considered the limited view on the far right of the oak, as you guys saw earlier in the staff report. |
01:30:40.24 | Mika Stefani | And that view is angled and zoomed in only to look at our addition exaggerating the view impact and consequently demanding our partial demolition of the addition. However, you can see how much more of a view they have the addition is just a small piece on the peripheral next slide please. |
01:31:01.15 | Mika Stefani | which is why I come to show you the change in circumstance today. The new and the full view should be considered. |
01:31:08.22 | Mika Stefani | When 31 Central sold on June 26, 2019, that created a new time of purchase in 2019. The subsequent owner inherits the panoramic view as is, including the view of the addition. |
01:31:22.80 | Mika Stefani | The recent design review failed to comply with the 2018 ruling that the views determined at the time of purchase and there was no impact to the view after the time of purchase in 2019 since no construction happened since then. Next slide please. |
01:31:41.70 | Mika Stefani | In May 15 2017 the construction was ministerially approved as an addition and per Sausalito municipal code. |
01:31:50.21 | Mika Stefani | In addition, it's exempt from design review because it had minimal view impact at the timing of the zoning permit application. It adds less than 10% square footage of living area to multifamily residents. And as you can see, its exterior is consistent with the existing exterior. Next slide, please. |
01:32:10.29 | Mika Stefani | Here is just evidence from the posted zoning permit, which the initial tenant, uh, |
01:32:15.81 | Mika Stefani | stated falsely that we hadn't posted. We have evidence that it was posted on time. And then below you see that the building permit also calls this a 200 square foot addition. |
01:32:27.40 | Mika Stefani | Next slide, please. |
01:32:31.64 | Mika Stefani | So here are the testimonies we have from the various parties at 31 Central. They agreed to this quid pro quo preserving the dining room addition in exchange for an annual tree trimming agreement to be recorded with the title of both 27 Central and 31 Central. This is us showing good faith efforts trying to break this cycle that happens again and again and again with every new tenant that comes just to flip the house for a better view and sells it leaving us coming back to you year after year trying to solve this accordingly we hope that the city can honor the sentiments of the following parties next slide please |
01:33:10.01 | Mika Stefani | You'll see that the first approval for the proposed edition by the first owner. She gave written approval to the proposed edition in exchange for tree trimming. Next slide, please. |
01:33:22.45 | Mika Stefani | Here you see the second approval by the new owner after time of purchase, giving written support for the addition and requesting the planning commission to dismiss this DR in exchange for a tree trimming agreement. Next slide, please. |
01:33:36.62 | Mika Stefani | You can see this third approval by the realtor in September 22, where they said under the proposed tree trimming agreement, your porch will remain in place forever. Let's move forward. This email from the realtor was CC to Dan Hortet, the community development director. Next slide, please. |
01:33:54.12 | Mika Stefani | and the fourth approval in DocuSign in October 2022 where the second owner approved the addition saying I support the sauce the city of Sausalito dismissing the resolution the diminished view |
01:34:06.57 | Mika Stefani | experience at my home over the past three years are due entirely due to the rapid growth of the pitosporum, which is a plant. |
01:34:13.29 | Mika Stefani | and the permanency of the present balcony |
01:34:15.84 | Mika Stefani | slash porch at 27 central does not impair my views. The property is attractive, well maintained, and I'm pleased to look upon it from my home. Next slide, please. |
01:34:26.02 | Mika Stefani | And here's the MLS listing showing the primary view from the formal dining room. Next slide, please. |
01:34:34.18 | Mika Stefani | You can see that they even describe it as light-filled with San Francisco and bay views from nearly every room, a cozy covered porch on the main level offering panoramic bay bridge to city skyline. |
01:34:45.59 | Mika Stefani | line views as it does the bedroom next slide please |
01:34:50.21 | Mika Stefani | So you can see that the view at 31 Central not only is preserved from multiple photos from primary vantage points, but it's also greatly improved. None of these views they had initially until their time of purchase in 2019. Next slide, please. |
01:35:07.00 | Mika Stefani | This is an additional view and you see that the deck is not a significant impediment. Next slide, please. |
01:35:17.82 | Mika Stefani | However, |
01:35:19.12 | Mika Stefani | the demolition would have an unbalanced effect. From the photos that you saw, you see on the bottom, there will be a marginal improvement to the view at 31 Central, but a significant detriment to our addition on 27 Central. Next slide, please. |
01:35:37.06 | Mika Stefani | So I just want to recap that we're in full compliance with the Sausalito Municipal Code. We always did what we were required to. The addition was designed and built consistent with minimizing the obstruction of primary views from the private property. |
01:35:50.05 | Mika Stefani | The minor obstruction of the primary view is acceptable to protect neighboring property rights if there's a valid use for the structure. |
01:35:56.63 | Mika Stefani | And the Planning Commission review is not required for additions to multifamily residences that increase the size of the structure by less than 10%. |
01:36:05.46 | Mika Stefani | I want to note from all those four examples of written consent, we did our community outreach with multiple signed agreements with the original and subsequent owners. And lastly, due to this change of circumstance, the addition is a tiny and peripheral fraction of the panoramic view. It was inherited at the time of purchase in June of 2019. Next slide, please. |
01:36:31.99 | Mika Stefani | So here's my request to the council tonight. |
01:36:35.24 | Mika Stefani | I want you guys to recognize a few things for me, please. The full compliance, the fact that we're in full compliance with Sausalito Municipal Code |
01:36:43.56 | Mika Stefani | We did our community outreach and got neighbor consent. |
01:36:47.87 | Mika Stefani | Under the change of circumstance, the new owner inherits the panoramic view as is. The demolition would not significantly increase the view of 31 Central, but would render our addition obsolete and cause significant loss. |
01:37:01.38 | Mika Stefani | So please accept our appeal and dismiss this DR, reapprove the zoning permit as originally posted in May of 2017, and consider a site visit at both properties open to the neighbors. We're willing to sign a formal tree trimming agreement with 31 Central as proposed by the neighbor's realtor, and we're willing to maintain 31 Central's view at the time of purchase. And as Commissioner Janelle Kelman said previously, Stephanie's, you've done nothing wrong. |
01:37:33.01 | Mika Stefani | Thank you for your time. |
01:37:37.09 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
01:37:39.65 | Joan Cox | Any questions from council members? |
01:37:45.75 | Joan Cox | Yes, go ahead. |
01:37:47.72 | Councilmember Sobieski | Is there a tree trimming agreement in place currently? |
01:37:54.89 | Joan Cox | Hold on. It's, |
01:37:57.66 | Councilmember Sobieski | Is there, there was one- |
01:37:59.26 | Joan Cox | If there's a spokesperson who wants to step to the mic, that's fine in response to the question. |
01:38:05.47 | Councilmember Sobieski | Is there an agreement currently recorded with the property? |
01:38:09.03 | Unknown | The agreement will be with the property upon the acceptance of the property. |
01:38:12.43 | Joan Cox | No, is there one in place right now? No, there's not. Okay. |
01:38:16.43 | Councilmember Sobieski | And then are you under any obligation to continue to trim the trees for your neighbor at 31 or not? |
01:38:23.77 | Unknown | I could trim the tree, but so far the owner of 31 Central has not requested any tree trimming. So I was able to observe if there's any trees impacting the view last year. I took some pictures and I was standing all the way in the back in the formal dining room against a mirrored wall. I took several pictures. San Francisco is clearly visible. I did not trim any trees at that point because there was no need for it. I don't know how the trees are looking right now. So far, I have not received any requests for tree trimming. Thank you. But I'm happy to do so. |
01:38:24.39 | Councilmember Sobieski | Certainly. |
01:39:10.51 | Mika Stefani | Thank you. |
01:39:10.54 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
01:39:13.02 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
01:39:13.09 | Unknown | Thank you. |
01:39:15.81 | Joan Cox | Okay, we'll now open it for public comment. |
01:39:21.46 | Joan Cox | I have no speaker cards. |
01:39:30.81 | Joan Cox | If anyone else would like to speak, please fill out a speaker card and hand it to Babette McDougall. |
01:39:44.65 | Ian | Thank you. |
01:39:47.36 | Ian | I'll tell you what I find most instructive about this public hearing thing. I actually took the time to watch the video of the attachment that our community and public |
01:39:58.98 | Ian | economic guy sent as part of his report, and I was so glad, because you can look at this if you click here. |
01:40:05.17 | Ian | That I get, so I clicked. |
01:40:08.46 | Ian | It was so instructive for a lot of reasons because it pertains to the Planning Commission attached meeting. Correct me if I misspoke. |
01:40:17.03 | Ian | but it was planning commission from an earlier hearing on this very matter. And here's what was instructive. Number one, the importance of institutional memory. Seeing Janelle Kelman sitting there, |
01:40:29.10 | Ian | And |
01:40:30.43 | Ian | coming forward to the city council with that body of knowledge and remaining |
01:40:35.69 | Ian | having the record available to look at was so meaningful. |
01:40:40.12 | Ian | Well, one thing that came out was the importance of institutional memory. That relates to the current Planning Commission, of course, |
01:40:46.18 | Ian | The issue, I have no idea whether... |
01:40:48.67 | Ian | Ms. Feller would ever agree to extend her time on the Planning Commission, but this is no time to lose institutional memory, that is for sure. And I recall very much when y'all |
01:40:59.59 | Ian | very much supported her extension. |
01:41:02.38 | Ian | for a second term on the Planning Commission. Well, I say it is not without precedent, Madam Mayor. I believe you yourself |
01:41:07.96 | Ian | had to be requested to extend service. So further, I would just like to say, let's define what we mean by view. Because I found from that meeting that there's the primary view, which was the one most of us care about. Then there's the uphill view. And there was a huge amount of argument |
01:41:22.73 | Ian | historically about that. But that's actually an issue that's alive and well in my own neighborhood. So it's something to consider going forward. |
01:41:30.76 | Ian | I usually tell people I live in a ghetto and then they get to my house and they go, |
01:41:34.27 | Ian | You call this a ghetto? And I show them the picture. |
01:41:37.37 | Ian | And it's quite different. |
01:41:41.64 | Ian | And over time, you have to learn how to live with your neighbors up the hill. |
01:41:45.62 | Ian | Thank you. |
01:41:45.64 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
01:41:46.22 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
01:41:46.77 | Joan Cox | Next up is Jack Carlson. |
01:41:54.92 | Jack Carlson | Hello, thank you, Mayor, Vice Mayor, members of the City Council. My name is Jack Carlson. I'm the owner and resident at 31 Central. I'm actually not the appellant today. As we've heard, the owners of 27 Central are actually appealing their own thing that they had agreed to before. But I just want to say the view is very directly impacted of the San Francisco skyline. It almost couldn't be more perfect. Could you hand the pictures? Yes, I have plenty of view of the blue water, which is very, very beautiful. But the main thing, as far as the view goes in the house, is of the San Francisco city skyline. And from the living room and from the primary bedroom suite, it almost couldn't be more perfectly positioned, this skyline, |
01:42:50.83 | Jack Carlson | balcony, which has really become an enclosed room. |
01:42:54.58 | Jack Carlson | that's in addition to the property is perfectly perfectly placed to block the view of the San Francisco skyline. As was referred to earlier, when I purchased the property, it was in 2022. In fact, when I purchased the property, I was very, very aware of the outstanding code enforcement actions and the prior decisions we just heard, many, many decisions taken by |
01:43:18.86 | Jack Carlson | the planning commission and the city council over and over again and it was very clear that that addition was to be removed or was to be dramatically reduced so as to restore the view and i bought the property of course with that understanding and that is the thing that i want to make the most clear and i don't want to be in a bait and switch situation with my own home. And that very important view, which is a big part of what we love about Sausalito. Thank you. |
01:43:52.22 | Joan Cox | Thank you. Next up is Bob Leff. |
01:43:55.75 | Joan Cox | Then Andrew Machado. |
01:44:01.74 | Bob Leff | Hello. I'd just like to read a letter that I wrote about the subject. I'm a tenant next door at 21 Central Avenue. |
01:44:02.01 | Mika Stefani | Hello. |
01:44:12.20 | Bob Leff | My name is Bob Leff. I live at 21 Central next to 27 Central. I am a tenant of Parrish Chang. He asked me to represent him in this issue as he is having some health issues. I've been involved with planning issues in Marin County since serving on the West Marin Planning Commission in 1985. I've been a commissioner with the Historic Architectural Review Committee in Telluride, Colorado. I've been an electrical contractor for 40 years. From this perspective, I make my case. I've never met the owners of 27 Central as they do not reside on the property. I'm in contact with the tenants over parking issues as Central Ave at this point is out of the Sausalito parking grid and such has no written instruction for cars parking in the neighborhood. This greatly affects those of us without driveways who rely on the street to park our cars. My landlord Parrish has been very impacted by 27 Central. The previous owner of 27 Central asked him to sign an agreement to reduce the setbacks and height for a new garage |
01:45:16.14 | Bob Leff | claiming the second floor addition was only for family visits. With the current owners, the second floor has become a rental. |
01:45:22.69 | Bob Leff | Parrish states that he was approached by the present owner of 27 Central to sell a portion of his land adjacent to his property. When he refused, the owners of 27 set up story polls on his property claiming he was on their property. |
01:45:37.93 | Bob Leff | Parish house sits close to 27 Central and is impacted by all the activities that has occurred at 27. |
01:45:47.34 | Bob Leff | window. |
01:45:50.06 | Bob Leff | facing him was enlarged and additional windows have been proposed that affect his privacy. Parrish had to Parrish has had to continuously fight the slow encroachment by his closest neighbor, |
01:46:03.02 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
01:46:03.04 | Bob Leff | OKAY. |
01:46:04.25 | Bob Leff | Thank you. |
01:46:04.94 | Joan Cox | Thank you so much. |
01:46:09.65 | Joan Cox | Next is Andrew Machado and then Dilworth Cannon. |
01:46:15.68 | Andrew Machado | Hi, my name is Andrew Machado. I'm the assistant, Mr. John Carlson, the resident at 31 Central Avenue. I prepared a statement regarding the view obstruction. |
01:46:24.84 | Andrew Machado | On August 21st, 2024, the resident of 27 Central Avenue originally introduced to me as Stephanie, but later identified as Mika entered the premises at 31 Central Avenue under the stated intent. |
01:46:36.06 | Andrew Machado | determining how she might restore my view. Acting in good faith and relying on that representation, I granted her access to the property and accompanied her to the main landing, from which she had an uninstructed vantage point to evaluate the vegetative overgrowth affected... |
01:46:50.12 | Andrew Machado | in the Scenic View corridor. Despite this opportunity, Ms. Mika took only limited and selectively framed photographs that failed to capture the full extent of the obstruction caused by unmanaged plantings and the expansion of her deck structure. |
01:47:01.56 | Andrew Machado | Before departing, she stated that her gardener, allegedly present at the time, would reduce the height of the vegetation by one to two feet. However, no landscape maintenance has taken place, nor professional has been observed on site. The overgrowth remains unchanged. In light of the obstruction, I'm submitting my statement. Thank you. |
01:47:20.63 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
01:47:22.69 | Joan Cox | Dilworth Cannon. |
01:47:24.98 | Joan Cox | And that's the last card for the chambers that I have. |
01:47:45.11 | Dilworth Cannon | I'm Dilworth Cannon, I live at 35 Central Avenue. This is like Dejuvu all over again, multiple times, I'm getting tired of it all. I was here on July 31, 2018, it's been alluded to already. And this was a case brought by Heather Wiles, who was a previous owner of 31. |
01:48:09.38 | Dilworth Cannon | and she was complaining about the same things that we're talking about right now. |
01:48:13.26 | Dilworth Cannon | And she appeared to have won her case in front of the council on that day. But she was so frustrated with the bureaucracy of what's going on in town that she just sold her house and left. |
01:48:25.23 | Dilworth Cannon | Um, |
01:48:26.41 | Dilworth Cannon | So I'm here to support what Jack Carlson has already said. And the letter that he submitted to you is very complete. |
01:48:35.16 | Dilworth Cannon | I have seen in Jack Carlson's letter that Miss Stefani had trespassed on his property to take the photographs, and I believe that Agnes Caprilein said the same thing in her letter. |
01:48:51.94 | Dilworth Cannon | It's also during the minutes of July 31, 2018, you will find stated that |
01:49:01.47 | Dilworth Cannon | Heather Wiles went to a business outside of Sausalito, and she |
01:49:08.58 | Dilworth Cannon | I think it was a tree service, but I'm not sure. But anyway, she said, I'm Heather Wiles. And they said, no, you're not. Heather Wiles was in a while back. And that was impersonation by Miss Stefani for Heather Wiles. And that was in the minutes of this meeting. I'm not making it up. |
01:49:25.22 | Dilworth Cannon | So I'm here in full support of what Jack Carlson is claiming. And I think that Ms. Stefani has continually added on to the deck that I think is totally inappropriate. No reductions have taken place that I've been aware of. So thank you very much. |
01:49:44.28 | Joan Cox | Thank you so much. City Clerk? |
01:49:47.71 | Dilworth Cannon | Thank you. |
01:49:47.73 | City Clerk | We have a Vicki Nichols online. |
01:49:50.87 | City Clerk | Oh. |
01:49:51.73 | City Clerk | She went. |
01:49:52.91 | Joan Cox | Oh. |
01:49:53.06 | City Clerk | Uh-uh. |
01:49:53.55 | City Clerk | Do you still want to speak, Vicki Nichols? |
01:49:55.73 | Joan Cox | Give her a moment. |
01:49:57.58 | Unknown | Yes, thank you. Thank you, Mayor Cox. I just like to say normally I wouldn't comment on anything like this, but as one of the planning commissioners that heard |
01:50:07.28 | Unknown | this particular project. |
01:50:09.48 | Unknown | and growing project repeatedly. |
01:50:13.31 | Unknown | I would just summarize what I was going to say in agreement with the last speaker. |
01:50:18.44 | Unknown | The neighbor did ultimately sell her home. |
01:50:21.34 | Unknown | Apparently someone came on her property to take some of the photographs. |
01:50:25.81 | Unknown | And I think most importantly, this project started out as a |
01:50:30.29 | Unknown | Um, |
01:50:30.99 | Unknown | a repair job that was done over a holiday weekend with no permits, |
01:50:35.80 | Unknown | And then it was just added to and added to. And now I hear that it's enclosed |
01:50:41.64 | Unknown | We actually made suggestions about |
01:50:44.43 | Unknown | decreasing the angle to pull this back to help with the |
01:50:49.10 | Unknown | view issue. |
01:50:50.65 | Unknown | And I think if you go on the record, I believe it was my colleague, |
01:50:54.72 | Unknown | Morgan Pierce, who actually |
01:50:57.07 | Unknown | showed the architect how this could be angled back. |
01:51:02.35 | Unknown | I believe many of these solutions have been proposed, but I think that it's indicative when you hear that |
01:51:07.98 | Unknown | The tree... |
01:51:09.32 | Unknown | cutting plan has been discussed, but when it was actually asked about, it still has not been done. |
01:51:15.36 | Unknown | So I would encourage you to deny this appeal and |
01:51:21.13 | Unknown | get this project done |
01:51:23.97 | Unknown | back in the way that it should have been handled before. Thank you. |
01:51:28.93 | Unknown | Thank you. |
01:51:30.33 | City Clerk | Yeah, and we have somebody on the telephone line. |
01:51:33.97 | City Clerk | We can speak. |
01:51:39.24 | City Clerk | And you can press star nine. |
01:51:43.59 | Agnes Kaprilian | Hello? |
01:51:44.13 | Joan Cox | Yes, we hear you. |
01:51:47.12 | Agnes Kaprilian | Okay. My name is Agnes Kaprilian. My husband Leonard and I moved into 42 Central |
01:51:53.72 | Agnes Kaprilian | over 50 years ago |
01:51:56.25 | Agnes Kaprilian | I've seen a lot of changes in the neighborhood. |
01:51:59.27 | Agnes Kaprilian | I've been in 31 years. |
01:52:01.95 | Agnes Kaprilian | Central Avenue, it had a far more panoramic view |
01:52:07.77 | Agnes Kaprilian | than Stefani is presenting now. |
01:52:10.69 | Agnes Kaprilian | What Mr. Carlson has is not the panoramic view that was there |
01:52:16.87 | Agnes Kaprilian | before this added room. |
01:52:19.69 | Agnes Kaprilian | It's very disturbing that a precedent is being set |
01:52:23.42 | Agnes Kaprilian | that someone can build something that impedes a neighbor's property's view and get away with it. |
01:52:29.41 | Agnes Kaprilian | We live here because of the views. |
01:52:31.89 | Agnes Kaprilian | It's also disturbing that a precedent can be set |
01:52:35.70 | Agnes Kaprilian | that someone can ignore an order of the city council |
01:52:39.70 | Agnes Kaprilian | for years and years and get away with it. |
01:52:43.50 | Agnes Kaprilian | You're aware of the past history of Mikey's interactions with Heather. |
01:52:47.68 | Agnes Kaprilian | the previous owner of 31 Central, |
01:52:50.48 | Agnes Kaprilian | And the fact that Mikey essentially drove Heather away |
01:52:54.87 | Agnes Kaprilian | entered her home without permission |
01:52:57.28 | Agnes Kaprilian | et cetera. |
01:52:58.52 | Agnes Kaprilian | Mikey has also entered my home without permission on at least one occasion. |
01:53:04.54 | Agnes Kaprilian | You've witnessed Mikey making further additions to the balcony as well as the rest of the property. |
01:53:10.68 | Agnes Kaprilian | And further in closing it, |
01:53:12.73 | Agnes Kaprilian | even while she has been supposed to be reducing it, |
01:53:16.51 | Agnes Kaprilian | or to removing it. |
01:53:19.19 | Agnes Kaprilian | The view that she is presenting is less than half the view |
01:53:23.86 | Agnes Kaprilian | that 31 Central had |
01:53:26.02 | Agnes Kaprilian | before the addition of Mikey's |
01:53:28.74 | Agnes Kaprilian | whatever room you want to call it. |
01:53:33.78 | Agnes Kaprilian | And also the parishes have had to hang plastic over their window |
01:53:38.44 | Agnes Kaprilian | their bedroom window because |
01:53:40.96 | Agnes Kaprilian | Mikey's Floor to Ceiling Windows |
01:53:43.62 | Agnes Kaprilian | Look right into it. |
01:53:47.17 | Joan Cox | Thank you, Agnes. It's great to hear from you. |
01:53:50.22 | City Clerk | No further public speakers. |
01:53:51.52 | Joan Cox | All right, so I will close public comment. |
01:53:55.22 | Joan Cox | We will give the appellant five minutes for rebuttal. |
01:54:08.14 | Mika Stefani | Hello. First of all, I wanted to address some of the public comments. I want to address the fact that everything we did was legally permitted. While there was a stop work, that stop work was rescinded, and we have proof of that. Second of all, if the current owner feels like it was a bait and switch, that was not our responsibility to fix. They were aware of the situation, sure, but we were still appealing something. We have that right now. |
01:54:35.51 | Mika Stefani | Thank you. |
01:54:36.74 | Unknown | So it's strange that no neighbor has ever inquired about our stories. It's all one-sided, poisoned by the neighbors. |
01:54:44.34 | Unknown | And. |
01:54:50.24 | Unknown | In terms of institutional memory, we just heard Nichols say, oh, there was no permit pulled. |
01:54:57.62 | Unknown | That's absolutely false. That, the non-pulling of a permit by the owner of 27 Central, was the one's previous owners who he bought the property from. They initiated a deck renovation with no permit. Not us. You see how that institutional memory poisons. It spreads and it poisons. So who's afraid of a new site visit? We're not afraid of a new site visit. Why don't you make up your own minds and let the poison be gone? Maybe you guys are all right. Maybe we're wrong. How do you get to find out what that is? A new site visit. |
01:55:32.47 | Unknown | You want to say something more? Yeah. |
01:55:33.41 | Mika Stefani | I just want to emphasize like, |
01:55:36.11 | Mika Stefani | Again, we've been working with the neighbors. There's no written agreement yet because no one has been signing yet. Yet the neighbor acted on the agreement and then put in the appeal. |
01:55:48.89 | Mika Stefani | After she cut down our trees in excess of the agreement, |
01:55:52.33 | Mika Stefani | Um, we also want to end this cycle, but I think it's really unfair that we went through all the rules. We did the zoning permit. We did the building permit. We did everything legally by the books. And now as a result, 31 Central has a massive view and our edition accounts for a very minuscule amount of it. |
01:56:13.66 | Unknown | What kicked all this off is that Miss Wiles, the owner of 31 Central, circulated a petition among passers-by spoon-feeding them a false premise that the building was constructed without a permit. That's a false premise. She was feeding them, spoon-feeding them, this false premise. And of course, they signed saying, oh yeah, that's terrible, that's terrible. The premise was wrong, and so the poison continues to seep in. |
01:56:40.64 | Unknown | She was also noticed, granted a late appeal by the PC, while conveniently she sat on the historical preservation board. |
01:56:48.73 | Unknown | a sister commission of the city. |
01:56:51.66 | Unknown | Isn't that a clear conflict of interest, a minimum |
01:56:55.46 | Unknown | a perception of conflict of interest that a late appeal would be granted to someone sitting on a sister commission. Let's open our eyes. Try to understand our obstinacy, and we are being obstinate for a reason. It's not just to waste everyone's time. Number one, there's been a lack of transparency on this part of the city just answering simple questions. Simple questions, it just were met with mute looks and no one really wants to get in under the hood to see what's really going on. Recall David Chursonoff, the city planner. He admitted that the city made procedural errors in the process of permitting. He admitted there was errors made on the part of the city. This made us obstinate. |
01:57:37.75 | Unknown | Commissioner Kelman, Janelle Kelman, on the last PC meeting, she walked right down to us. She was here. We were there. She walked right up to us and said, Stephanie, you did nothing wrong. |
01:57:48.58 | Unknown | So now you're wondering why we're obstinate. Well, my God, you guys are telling us we did nothing wrong. So ethics just demands that you do the right thing. |
01:58:00.93 | Mika Stefani | We really appreciate your time and consideration. |
01:58:07.33 | Unknown | may I respectfully ask you for a continuance of this hearing after a site visit. And our neighborhood, it only takes one bad apple to waste the whole basket. Our neighborhood, there is a war going on, at least in my perspective. Everybody hates me because of the disinformation that has been spread around. And I'm asking you, I'm begging you respectfully, please have a site visit, a publicly announced site visit so everybody who is hating me can actually see the real view |
01:58:47.36 | Unknown | instead of a tiny little view that is implied by the planner that really is not true, it's not the overall view. |
01:58:56.87 | Unknown | Well, so we don't expect you to believe us, and we don't expect you to believe the owner of 31 Central. Find out for yourselves if there... |
01:59:05.73 | Unknown | There's an impact with a site visit. |
01:59:08.16 | Unknown | An on-quorum site visit with all the public involved. |
01:59:15.64 | Joan Cox | All right, so I'm going to close the public hearing. |
01:59:36.11 | Joan Cox | and bring it up here for a motion and city council discussion. |
01:59:40.56 | Joan Cox | um, |
01:59:41.63 | Joan Cox | I will disclose, you heard at the very end |
01:59:45.00 | Joan Cox | The appellant said we'd like a quorum site visit. I'm sure they recall. I did visit the site. I don't know if Council Member Hoffman. So the two of us did visit the site prior to our hearing in 2018. |
02:00:02.59 | Joan Cox | Okay, who would like to lead off? |
02:00:05.72 | Mayor | I'll take a shot at this. This is a very frustrating thing when neighbors can't seem to work things out, and it would be much better if they could. However, the process here seems quite clear from the record, which I thoroughly reviewed. I read all the letters submitted. I did not make a site visit, but I did look at the photographs that were submitted. And we in Sausalito clearly protect certain classic views, particularly the skyline of downtown San Francisco. That's one of the very specific protected views. And that's the view that the Planning Commission has more than once |
02:00:41.52 | Mika Stefani | use. |
02:00:44.59 | Mika Stefani | has. |
02:00:45.89 | Mayor | Thank you. |
02:00:45.94 | Mayor | Thank you. |
02:00:46.75 | Mayor | determined was interfered and modifications needed to be made to the building. |
02:00:56.05 | Mayor | I'm prepared to move to deny the appeal because it has been heard twice by the Planning Commission. Orders were given to make modifications that haven't happened. Fines have been levied. |
02:01:10.10 | Mayor | and it's gone on way, way, way too long. |
02:01:13.32 | Mayor | And when it comes time for future agenda items, I have some thoughts about modifications to the process. |
02:01:19.42 | Mayor | It's really upsetting. |
02:01:21.09 | Mayor | that it's taken so much time and energy from so many people, despite what I think was a clear direction to make a modification that didn't happen. Sorry. |
02:01:35.52 | Mayor | Yeah, I'm moving to deny the appeal and upholding the Planning Commission Resolution Number 202409 that conditionally approves a retroactive design review permit for the expansion of a second floor deck at 27 Central Avenue. |
02:01:37.07 | Unknown | Thank you. |
02:01:37.10 | Mika Stefani | with the |
02:01:54.16 | Joan Cox | Is there a second to that motion? Second. |
02:01:56.98 | Joan Cox | All right, who else would like to comment? |
02:02:00.03 | Council Member Blousting | I'll just say a few things. |
02:02:01.79 | Council Member Blousting | I have to agree with the vice mayor that it's really upsetting when neighbors can't reach consensus and the fact that this has gone on. |
02:02:09.32 | Council Member Blousting | for seven years is |
02:02:11.51 | Council Member Blousting | rather disappointing, but the bottom line, what we're here to do is to make sure that we're |
02:02:16.64 | Council Member Blousting | effective in enforcing municipal code and |
02:02:19.81 | Council Member Blousting | When there is an impact of the view, which is what the Planning Commission has determined, |
02:02:24.79 | Council Member Blousting | There should be a design review permit issued, and that wasn't issued for the work that was done here. And I'm just... |
02:02:30.53 | Council Member Blousting | Our planning commission has heard it twice and we've heard it before. |
02:02:33.72 | Council Member Blousting | And so I just agree, and I'm sorry to see that this has been going on for so long, but I hope that, you know, that the work can be done in such a way that the neighbors will be able to move forward and have a, you know, cordial relationship going forward. |
02:02:55.67 | Councilmember Hoffman | Yeah, I viewed the property in 2018. I remember this fairly clearly, and I think it's fairly clear from the record and the presentation tonight that the direction from the Planning Commission in 2018, and when we saw it at the council level and the presentation tonight from the Planning Department was fairly clear clear that the direction was to remove or modify the deck and that their work was done without the proper permits, especially the new additions that have been done since the intervening time and the addition of new things. So I'm sad to see that. I'm sad that there are issues with the neighbors and continuing issues with the neighbors we that's always disturbing to us up here on the council because we all live very closely with all of our neighbors and we are you know it's hard for us to see when when we can't work well together with our neighbors but I'm ready to you know deny the appeal |
02:04:05.62 | Joan Cox | I'll just say I saw some challenges. I do recall this from 2018. I'm a former planning commissioner myself. |
02:04:12.94 | Joan Cox | um, |
02:04:13.99 | Joan Cox | There were some assertions made this evening that have no backup in the record. So one was that the initial notice was properly posted. I saw a slide on the presentation and in the written materials asserting that the initial notice, |
02:04:36.31 | Joan Cox | permit was posted, but I saw no evidence of that. The piece of paper in the |
02:04:45.32 | Joan Cox | there's not a time stamped photo of the permit posted |
02:04:50.19 | Joan Cox | on the tree. |
02:04:52.06 | Joan Cox | I also saw this evening reference to various testimony, but I saw no... |
02:04:59.25 | Joan Cox | written confirmation of the testimony. I did see... |
02:05:02.34 | Joan Cox | several copies of the letter |
02:05:04.11 | Joan Cox | from the one-time neighbor at 31. |
02:05:07.33 | Joan Cox | central, but even when that neighbor wrote the letter, there was already |
02:05:11.67 | Joan Cox | an order pending |
02:05:13.98 | Joan Cox | from the city council. |
02:05:16.90 | Joan Cox | had the applicant |
02:05:18.57 | Joan Cox | wanted to rely upon the consent of their neighbor in 2022, they needed to come back. |
02:05:25.39 | Joan Cox | and seek a revision of the order that had been issued by the City Council. |
02:05:29.50 | Joan Cox | You can't just ignore |
02:05:31.53 | Joan Cox | a code enforcement action |
02:05:33.50 | Joan Cox | and a resolution from |
02:05:35.90 | Joan Cox | the city council, |
02:05:37.05 | Joan Cox | because a neighbor says, I don't have a problem with it. You actually have to go through the proper channels to memorialize that agreement. |
02:05:48.02 | Joan Cox | Um, |
02:05:48.98 | Joan Cox | So I am... |
02:05:52.94 | Joan Cox | I appreciate the candor of the applicant that they have, and the appellant, that they have been obstinate in, |
02:06:00.10 | Joan Cox | I think it's unfortunate. |
02:06:01.94 | Joan Cox | that the lack of action by the city due to turnover and due to |
02:06:07.15 | Joan Cox | The passage of time and due to COVID has actually encouraged |
02:06:11.49 | Joan Cox | the applicant to make additional |
02:06:13.46 | Joan Cox | improvements without the proper permits. And so I also am in favor of the pending motion. |
02:06:21.26 | Joan Cox | Councilmember |
02:06:22.44 | Ian | So yes. |
02:06:22.93 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
02:06:22.96 | Ian | Thank you. |
02:06:23.05 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
02:06:23.39 | Joan Cox | Okay, so there's a motion and a second. All in favor? |
02:06:28.92 | Joan Cox | Aye. Aye. That motion carries 5-0. |
02:06:29.39 | Unknown | Hi. |
02:06:49.17 | Joan Cox | All right. Next are our business items. City manager, you asked me if we would be to this point by 915 where we made it. |
02:06:59.19 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
02:07:02.48 | Joan Cox | Oh, well, I see that. Let's take five minutes since one of the council members has left the dais. |
02:07:20.71 | Joan Cox | Okay, we are back. We are moving on to item 5A, review of the draft fiscal year 2025-2026 capital improvement program. And we will welcome back Kevin McGowan, our public works director. |
02:07:37.53 | Brandon Phipps | Mayor, I'm going to lead this off, if you don't mind. |
02:07:40.05 | Joan Cox | Yes, of course. |
02:07:42.09 | Brandon Phipps | I thank the public and thank you and the council for your time and attention on this very, very important subject. Sausalito is over 130 years old and quite beautiful. And when I got here in 2021, one of the things I wanted to see was the planning and policy direction of the city council in terms of how they directed their resources toward needs in the community to keep Sausalito beautiful, enhance Sausalito. And one of the planning documents that caught my eye was the 20 through 2026 strategic plan. In that strategic plan, there were a number of items related to public works and infrastructure. And so that was really important for me to understand that this was something that prior councils and administrations had talked about. |
02:07:42.44 | Joan Cox | I was waiting for the... |
02:08:31.94 | Brandon Phipps | And so that was a start. The second piece was to look at the city itself. And looking at the city, I noticed a brand new police and fire station, infrastructure investment. I noticed brand new parks, infrastructure investment. |
02:08:45.29 | Brandon Phipps | I noticed that they had passed a measure called Measure O for infrastructure in 2050. So this is a very solid start. |
02:08:55.31 | Brandon Phipps | But in looking further, can you go to the next slide, please? |
02:08:59.80 | Brandon Phipps | In 2021, |
02:09:02.48 | Brandon Phipps | we had a city council retreat where said the parks look fine |
02:09:07.01 | Brandon Phipps | The police and fire facilities are great. |
02:09:09.72 | Brandon Phipps | But some other infrastructure, namely your streets, are not in optimal condition. So the idea of the city council working on things that matter to the community was what I called a back-to-the-basics approach, which is let's look at our finances, let's look at our people, and let's look at our infrastructure. So one of the things that you do when you look at infrastructure is you kind of figure out what you want to do, what the need is. And so the city council took a lot of steps to do that. The first one that they took, which is really important, was the extended and expanded Measure L with the vote of the community. The community support for that was something that was truly significant. It means about $2.8 to $3 million a year to our community to invest in infrastructure that can't be overlooked because that's the seed that allows us to start cooking with gas so what I want to do is tell you again the city council said even if you have resources you can't get projects done if you don't have people so you added two project managers to the city budget and you heard two of them tonight, Ali and Sarah. So they're here in the flesh and doing the work that they were hired to do. So can you go to the next slide, please? I want to take you on a little journey in the city to say that, you know, looking at what was done and what needed to be done, this particular past year, the last 15 months have been really, really important to Sausalito and showing the community that the city council, city staff is working very hard to meet the infrastructure needs in our community. And I'll start on the south end of town. If you start on the south end of town, last year the city council approved and city staff completed with contractors a million dollar street project on Edwards Avenue. |
02:10:14.07 | Mika Stefani | Thank you. |
02:10:59.80 | Brandon Phipps | with City Council direction and support, a $1.2 million project at what we call Block 303. |
02:11:08.14 | Brandon Phipps | The North Street Steps, close to a three-quarters of a million-dollar project done there. A small but important project, the Sea Lion, done there. Up the street, you go to the Ferry Project. The $2.5 million project that had been languishing for eight, nine, ten years is almost done. That's another infrastructure improvement. At City Hall, there are EV charging stations, which is another infrastructure improvement project. There are 22 parking spaces paved in our area around Dunphy Park, which had been dirt for some time, and those were paved. The Marinship Park project, which was the home of our encampment for a couple of years, now is home to tennis again and pickleball. |
02:11:54.52 | Brandon Phipps | At the same time, the city council approved an agreement with Climatech |
02:11:59.18 | Brandon Phipps | to be more energy conscious, lower climate footprint, and that's in play right now. We completed at the direction of the city council a landslide task force recommendation to do a geologic hazard study. That's complete. And then the one that really matters in the capital improvement program that aligns with all this is the Bureau Veritas study to look at all of our facilities that we have to do. So those are all things that have been done in the last year. So I want to make sure that the community understands that we're starting to cook with gas. I think some of the questions about what needs are are pretty clear. We understand them. We're going to talk about them tonight. There are some new ones. We also want to talk a little bit about some of the funding sources that we believe help us to get through some of these investments in our infrastructure. And I want to go to the next slide, please, Katie. I mentioned Measure O slash Measure L as a source of funds to invest in infrastructure. There is also the parking fund, which you can invest in infrastructure. There are tidal ends, monies that can be invested in specific geographic areas, infrastructure-wise. There are county funds for parks and streets that we get every year that can be invested in infrastructure as well. Next slide, please. |
02:13:22.27 | Brandon Phipps | There's also some work that's almost done but not done, and that's important that the council and the community know that we have not dropped the ball on them. One of them is impact fees. We talked at length about the need to deal with the growth mandated on the city of Sausalito by the housing element process. That's going to mean houses get built in Sausalito you know who's going to pay for the streets the parks the lighting etc and that's where impact fees come in so that discussion is not done there has also been a conversation around developing a 10-year forecast a 10-year financing tool so we definitely are working on that and we certainly want to align our processes our infrastructure projects with sustainability and climate change next slide please Thank you. So we definitely are working on that, and we certainly want to align our processes, our infrastructure projects with sustainability and climate change. Next slide, please. One of the things the council directed us to do is to pursue grants more aggressively. We've had moderate success. Katie Tho Garcia is sitting here right now. She's been a big reason for some of that success, whether it's Gate 5 Road or former Councilmember Mayor Kelman's work to get a million dollars in sea level rise money. So the city is taking other people's money and applying it to infrastructure. |
02:14:38.18 | Brandon Phipps | I want to talk a little bit about the CIP itself, and then Kevin's going to get into some detail. But a CIP process is a rolling process. It's a fluid process. It involves investment in a multitude of areas, and the public works department has their criteria that they work through, that they speak to that involves what I call solid, solid approaches. But my approach is a little bit different. as a city manager, I believe that you need to look at things that are maybe not as confined as our process. And so those are pretty clear to me. One is what is going to help public safety? What infrastructure investments are going to help public safety? Emergency preparedness. What is required by the law that the city has to do that we should be doing in our capital improvement program? What projects or facilities generate revenue? And so which ones are those that we need to take a look at? And then finally, you know, sustainability. What is involved in sustainability? What projects should we do to increase sustainability? Battle climate change and things of that nature. So even though the CIP process is fluid, the projects that you will see tonight and probably have seen before, there are a couple of additions that I want to highlight. One of them is the Spencer Avenue fire station. The idea that, you know, we live in a very threatened environment when it comes to wildfires. With the new fire maps, there's a renewed effort on our part in partnership with the Southern Marin Fire District to start looking at that Spencer Avenue fire station. What does that mean? Unfortunately or fortunately, we didn't sell it. And at the same time, we have used it as a repository for city records going back dozens of years. So, you know, in order to get that project done, |
02:16:30.85 | Brandon Phipps | or that facility ready, the Bureau of Veritas study analyzes, identifies work that needs to be done to make it usable. But we also need to let the council know that, you know, there is in fact a trove of records there that are not going to be easy to move, and that's going to require some resources in order to get it ready for use in the future. The other one is the Bridgeway Corridor from Princess to Richardson Street. You know, all of the conversation around that particular process and matter, and, you know, it was very informative for me to see some of the ideas that came out of it that would enhance safety. So some of the things that you see in the capital improvement program, you may want to advance. They may be in years too far out. You may want to do them now. I'll give you some examples. The sea level wall that was what I call recommended as an interim step is something that, you know, we saw as a potential price tag of about $2.5 million. Well, you can start that next year. You can start that this year, and I'd recommend you start it soon because it's something that's attainable. If you expense it out over 20 years, that sounds like a lot of money in one year, but your title and funds generates money every year that you can use to service any type of project that you're going to do there over time. And then the other one is some things as simple as a proposal to make that corner on Princess Street safer. We've talked about doing some things that are upstreet in terms of crosswalks and more safety efforts there, but that little corner on the southern end of Princess, that curve has been something that we keep getting questions about in terms of what will we do for that. So Kevin has some ideas about how to deal with that. There are probably 25 new projects, but those are a couple that I wanted to highlight. And obviously, this is your capital improvement program. It's not staff's. So if you want to deviate, move, suggest something new, please do. And know that we listened to some of the things that you talked about in your strategic planning retreat last February. Infrastructure was one of the things you wanted us to look at. So we've paid attention to those requests by the city council or direction from the city council. when we heard different ideas about how to make our roads more effective for the community on various fronts, not just our pavement management index, making roads more effective in the sense of emergency evacuation, prioritizing them, that was important. When we heard about reconfiguring our roads so maintenance costs are lowered or we put them on what's termed a road diet, there are some opportunities to do that in Sausalito, maybe not citywide. And then certainly, I just want to highlight that some of the capital improvements related to sewer, we want to make sure that you understand, I don't believe we should look past the next two years. We're on track to bring forward a transfer of services memorandum to the City Council in the next quarter, I would hope. And then you would be out of the sewer business. And so that wouldn't be a capital improvement line item for you. So I really want to thank Kevin and his team, the project managers, the staff that supports him, and all the work that they've done. And you'll see a lot of it in his presentation. But I really wanted to say that, you know, we can probably make a bigger impact this year on our infrastructure needs, invest more in infrastructure with your direction. We just need to know what you believe is the right thing to do. |
02:20:13.20 | Brandon Phipps | Thank you. |
02:20:15.39 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you, City Manager Zapata. Kevin McGowan, Public Works Director for Sausalito. Our City Manager mentioned just a few projects that have been completed, but I wouldn't mind mentioning a couple others that kind of happened behind the scenes. Over the last five to six years, we've been trying to recuperate costs from the federal government from FEMA associated with a slide that occurred here in 2019. |
02:20:38.26 | Kevin McGowan | And our staff, specifically Andy Davidson, has been pushing this with a consultant's help to try to get that money back. And we have received some of it, and we're hoping to receive the rest of it this year. So it's little things like that that happen way behind the scenes. We don't usually let many people know about it, but they require effort and they require time. Little things come up also throughout the year. I don't want to point out the ceiling, but if you look up, |
02:21:06.69 | Kevin McGowan | We're doing a little work on the ceiling. And so these things come up and we have to address them as they come up. So as I work through my presentation here, some of this will come up as we move forward. So as you know, the Capital Improvement Program is a fluid document. |
02:21:24.88 | Kevin McGowan | which can change throughout the year and does change over the five-year period. This planning document is utilized to address improvements to our public infrastructure, similar to other cities in the country. We have a need for many improvements to our roads, buildings, and public spaces, but we have a limited amount of funding to facilitate repairs and improvements. The CIP is utilized to develop a list of possible improvement projects and estimates the amount of funding needed to support those projects. The CIP also prioritizes the improvements with the intent of providing recommendations to the council to allocate funds in conjunction with the annual budget. Sausalito's five-year capital improvement program is updated annually and is included in the annual budget. Next slide, please. |
02:22:20.28 | Kevin McGowan | So this year, the city finished the facility assessment study, which included more than 980 tasks for the city-owned facilities, including leased facilities. We have included a new category in the CIP this year called building assessment, which is separated into a different category so that we can keep track of all these different tasks. |
02:22:46.47 | Kevin McGowan | Attachment 1, noted in the draft CIP, is a 224-page document. Loads of fun. It's intended to list the details of each capital project to be considered over the next five years. |
02:23:02.20 | Kevin McGowan | So how does it work? I'll just go through this super quickly. Each of the active projects completed, proposed and existing ones are individual have individual summary sheets. Each of the estimated allocations then rolls up into a summary for each category. |
02:23:22.03 | Kevin McGowan | All the categories are then rolled up into a summary. This summary, listed on page three of attachment one, shows all the projects and summarizes the allocation per fund. This amount is then compared to the amount of available funding |
02:23:39.97 | Kevin McGowan | which is provided by our finance department. |
02:23:43.49 | Kevin McGowan | From now until the end of the fiscal year, additional balancing of the accounts compared to the projects |
02:23:51.64 | Kevin McGowan | is needed. |
02:23:52.88 | Kevin McGowan | So if you'll notice in the staff report, there may be available funding and in a specific fund and it doesn't necessarily match attachment one. We'll need to rebalance those projects so that these two can at least match and we don't spend overspend in one fund compared to another. Next slide, please. |
02:24:14.32 | Kevin McGowan | Great. As noted earlier, staff utilizes a rating system to assist with prioritizing new projects for funding in the next fiscal year. Attachment three in your packet denotes a rating criteria |
02:24:28.23 | Kevin McGowan | The reading is also shown on page 25 of Attachment 1. I'm going to note these pages for you because Attachment 1 is so huge, and it may help if you want to find things. |
02:24:40.23 | Joan Cox | Well, just so you know, if we print it out, it's like it says 320. It's not... |
02:24:48.41 | Joan Cox | Well, I guess you do have 39 of 224. So is that when you're saying page 25? |
02:24:54.45 | Kevin McGowan | Yeah. |
02:24:55.67 | Kevin McGowan | Great. |
02:24:56.43 | Kevin McGowan | I'm hoping. So this process is a subjective process, and staff is recommending some projects that may not be the highest priority with the intent of addressing multiple type of projects in each fiscal year. Council is welcome to add, delete, and change the projects listed in the CIP. As our city manager mentioned, this is your capital improvement program. |
02:25:21.50 | Kevin McGowan | Each individual project sheet also shows a rating as well as on the summary sheets. Next slide, please. |
02:25:31.41 | Kevin McGowan | Staff has made an effort to examine the more than 100 projects in the CIP. Based on that analysis, staff recommends moving forward with nine new projects shown on page 33 of the CIP. |
02:25:46.17 | Kevin McGowan | These projects include safety related repairs to city infrastructure, including sidewalk repairs, library access issues, street resurfacing and others. We are recommending proceeding with the Coloma Street Improvement Project as well, based on the fact that the city received an additional $450,000 from Safe Routes to School on this specific project. |
02:26:11.27 | Kevin McGowan | Um, |
02:26:12.82 | Kevin McGowan | This project has been on the books for many years, and the plans could be bid this summertime, so we could move fairly quickly on the project. |
02:26:20.67 | Kevin McGowan | In addition, we have included a few new items, noted a new item specifically as minor facility repairs, which was developed with a facility assessment study and includes various improvements noted on that report, which are less than $35,000 in cost. So with the facility assessment study, it had 980 different line items. Some of those were greater than $35,000, which we think should be a capital project. Those that are less than that can be simply maintenance projects, painting, fixing wall switches, that type of thing. And so we would recommend that we have a specific contractor come in to help us with that. |
02:27:04.20 | Kevin McGowan | Currently, we do not have staff to address all these minor facility repairs. An outside firm or contractor will be needed to address this work unless additional staff is added specifically to perform the tasks. Some other communities here in Marin have their own dedicated staff to deal with facilities repairs specifically. San Rafael does, the county does, as well as Novato. Next slide, please. |
02:27:32.03 | Kevin McGowan | Great. Lots of pictures. Sorry. On the list are a few projects that you may recognize. Bridgeway sidewalk repair is needed in front of lot three. The root system in this area is pushing the root system from, I think they're called stone pines, are pushing up the sidewalk and damaging the road as well as the parking lot. Funding is needed in order to address that. The facility assessment study identified an issue at Humboldt Street Dock area, and this is the promenade area or the wooden sidewalk in front of joinery, and there's an area underneath that that needs specific attention. |
02:28:16.01 | Kevin McGowan | The repairs include structural issues as well as access issues on the boardwalk area, as I mentioned. The city library also needs to increase the access aisles to be in compliance with current standards. So if you'll notice on the front door to the library, you've got a vertical space, a vertical book rack that needs to be moved so you have more space as you enter the library. |
02:28:41.52 | Kevin McGowan | We have added a project to re-stripe bridgeway with thermoplastic. This project is separated into two years, with the south section being addressed first and the north section being addressed second. The idea is to repair or replace our current striping on bridgeway. Other projects, such as pathways at Gabrielson Park are in need of replacement. And so let's not forget also the minor facilities projects, which I just mentioned before. Next slide, please. |
02:29:18.04 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you. In addition, we have included a supplemental list of projects that could be added, and this and |
02:29:25.65 | Kevin McGowan | This list is located on page 37 in attachment one and is in the staff report as well. This list includes projects such as stair repairs, skylight repairs, and additional access improvements. These projects are highly rated. They have high ratings. However, staff considers them to be projects that should be done and compared to what have to be done. Next slide, please. |
02:29:52.53 | Kevin McGowan | The projects that are on the future list include Bridgeway medians that came up at the March 29th, 2025 council meeting stair projects on Litho Street and repairs to fire station to which were mentioned by our city manager. |
02:30:08.50 | Kevin McGowan | The facility assessment study noted that the Humboldt Street bulkhead should be repaired |
02:30:14.01 | Kevin McGowan | and that other improvements to the wall systems on Lot 3, that's the old masonry walls that support some of the hillside on Lot 3, and Old City Hall need to be implemented as well. In addition, staff is concerned about the downhill slope adjacent to Bridgeway, which is showing signs of geologic movement, and this is between Nevada Street and Easterby on the east side, such that an additional... is showing signs of geologic movement. And this is between Nevada Street and Easterby on the east side, such that an additional study is needed to determine what needs to be done and who is responsible for that repair. Next slide, please. |
02:30:53.18 | Kevin McGowan | As noted earlier, the facility assessment study had more than 980 tasks listed for the city's leased and city-managed facilities. Staff re-examined the list and separated out tasks estimated to be more than $35,000 in cost. This total amount should be included. Sorry, these tasks are separated into individual projects and are listed under building assessment in the capital improvement program. |
02:31:28.60 | Kevin McGowan | Staff also added additional percentages and contingencies to those amounts because the original facility assessment didn't include those amounts. So we added a percentage on top of that just in case we needed some additional help. Next slide, please. |
02:31:47.28 | Kevin McGowan | The staff report for this item has a total need of $14 million, which does not include grants. |
02:31:56.83 | Kevin McGowan | and also only includes active and new priority projects |
02:32:01.32 | Kevin McGowan | It does not include the future projects that are listed in your staff report or on page 37 of attachment 1. |
02:32:09.64 | Kevin McGowan | At the time of the report preparation, staff has not had a chance to balance the available funding compared to each project or each category. We'll do that in between now and bringing the budget to you later on this year. |
02:32:25.44 | Kevin McGowan | Additional effort with our finance department will be needed to perform this task prior to finalizing the budget. Next slide. And last slide. |
02:32:35.07 | Unknown | Ooh. |
02:32:35.29 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you. |
02:32:35.90 | Kevin McGowan | Last is |
02:32:38.19 | Kevin McGowan | This is a very dynamic process. Our intent is to identify capital projects before they become emergencies. Moving forward with a facility assessment study has helped address current building needs. Putting local funds into projects that directly improve the safety aspects for residents, such as road projects as well as the repair of city maintained sidewalks is important. This evening we are asking Council for their concurrence with the general strategy to address capital projects for the next fiscal year. We anticipate bringing an item to the Planning Commission in the next few weeks when they have time. So to seek their concurrence that this CIP is in compliance with the general plan. |
02:33:27.23 | Kevin McGowan | And with that, that concludes my presentation. Thank you very much. |
02:33:37.19 | Council Member Blousting | Thank you, Mr. Hempstead. |
02:33:38.91 | Councilmember Sobieski | Thank you, Director McDowen, and congratulations on all the projects that your hardworking department has completed and that you've helped lead. |
02:33:46.71 | Councilmember Sobieski | Thank you. Congratulations. |
02:33:48.34 | Councilmember Sobieski | There's a lot here. There are a lot of pages. And I apologize that I try as I might... |
02:33:54.37 | Councilmember Sobieski | would just love a simple summary of a couple of things. Are we repaving Bridgeway from... |
02:33:59.85 | Councilmember Sobieski | the south end of town to Napa Street. |
02:34:03.11 | Councilmember Sobieski | anytime soon. So that's the detail |
02:34:04.12 | Kevin McGowan | So that's the detail within the 2024 street resurfacing project. And I'd have to get back to staff to find out specifically the limits. But I think you are correct. |
02:34:14.03 | Councilmember Sobieski | that is being done. |
02:34:15.16 | Councilmember Sobieski | Thank you. |
02:34:15.17 | Kevin McGowan | Yes, I believe you sent me an email on that, and we responded that all of those streets are within the next street resurfacing program. |
02:34:15.21 | Councilmember Sobieski | Thank you. |
02:34:15.55 | Councilmember Sobieski | I believe you sent. |
02:34:22.33 | Councilmember Sobieski | So that's bridgeway, and this goes to a point the Vice Mayor has been bringing up a couple times about prioritizing safety corridors that- |
02:34:27.88 | Councilmember Sobieski | uh, |
02:34:29.03 | Councilmember Sobieski | you know, obviously I relied on for evacuation. So, uh, |
02:34:34.02 | Councilmember Sobieski | when that's being done, is it being repaved as is? You had a picture that looks like it has different colors and stripings. It looks different than it does today. So is that reflective of a... |
02:34:45.01 | Councilmember Sobieski | I'm no expert on what is referred to as complete streets. It's just a buzzword for me, but is that reflective of that, complete streets? |
02:34:48.92 | Kevin McGowan | I think we... |
02:34:52.03 | Kevin McGowan | Street's policy. |
02:34:54.29 | Kevin McGowan | I think that we are anticipating micro-sealing a lot of our streets, including Bridgeway. So maybe we should be clear about what you are thinking of. Complete resurfacing is a very expensive proposition. We have to grind out the entire road and put back asphalt. |
02:35:12.15 | Kevin McGowan | I believe on a majority of our streets, we're doing microcele, which is a |
02:35:16.89 | Kevin McGowan | It's a thin coating, and it has rocks in it or small pebbles, and so it bonds to the top of the surface of the asphalt. Now, I'm not sure if I can answer your specific questions on the details you're asking for. |
02:35:33.16 | Councilmember Sobieski | Okay. Would it be possible to, well, we'll see what my colleagues think, but I have a hard time figuring out what the choices are that we might be able to make because it's not presented on the one hand, but on the other hand, here are some trade-offs you could make. For instance, on this question of grinding Bridgeway down, which I know is more expensive to resurface it, completely repave it. |
02:35:57.67 | Councilmember Sobieski | versus micro sealant that might be a choice we might be willing to make if we understood the costs and the benefits of that choice uh and i'm just wondering if there's a way on some of the |
02:36:09.45 | Councilmember Sobieski | primary projects to consider a range of options like that. |
02:36:15.34 | Kevin McGowan | Yes, we can do that in the future. If we know your preference, like you were recommending to take a look at street resurfacing and say, hey, look, if we want to increase this budget, where would staff recommend putting that funding? |
02:36:30.56 | Kevin McGowan | Would we consider putting it into a full resurfacing or maybe expanding the amount of |
02:36:37.47 | Kevin McGowan | treatments we do on the roads within the city. We can look at it that way. If that's what your council is, is interested in, of putting more emphasis on resurfacing. |
02:36:46.88 | Councilmember Sobieski | Okay, and then |
02:36:48.18 | Councilmember Sobieski | I'm no asphalt expert, but how much money do you save as a project gets bigger? So if you have a, let's say a $3 million paving budget that gets you, I don't know how many feet you want to say that gets you. But if that became a $6 million budget, do you get twice as much as linear or do you get two and a half times as much or do you get four times as much? Like what's the non-linearity of the savings as a paving project gets larger? |
02:37:13.09 | Kevin McGowan | So in a way, that's kind of a trick question, but that's OK. |
02:37:18.91 | Kevin McGowan | Yeah. |
02:37:19.92 | Kevin McGowan | If we bundle all of the resurfacing together, let's say we put a package together for not just this year, but for the next two years, and put it all together as one. |
02:37:29.78 | Kevin McGowan | we can receive some order of savings by putting this together in this current market compared to the future market, which we know will probably be more expensive. So you could save money that way. |
02:37:43.36 | Kevin McGowan | Then if you bundling all these things together, |
02:37:46.85 | Kevin McGowan | You do not have to pay a remobilization cost. So you're saving money on mobilization. How much is that? |
02:37:53.72 | Kevin McGowan | probably 8% to 10%. |
02:37:55.97 | Kevin McGowan | I would guess when you have to separate projects out for each year, you may save 10% of your original budget, which is, let's say, $2 million, something like that. |
02:38:07.34 | Kevin McGowan | Okay, thank you. |
02:38:10.95 | Joan Cox | I'll go. |
02:38:11.75 | Joan Cox | Thank you for your presentation. I had a few questions from, and thank you for all of these materials. You mentioned that for fiscal year 25, 26, it would be $14 million. |
02:38:22.97 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
02:38:23.44 | Joan Cox | But when I'm looking at page 5 of 224, it says $7.7 million. |
02:38:31.64 | Kevin McGowan | So I would hope that you would take a look at the staff report first. And if you'll take a look at the staff report on the fiscal impact, which is the last page, you will note that it shows $10.2 million for the current projects and $3.9 million for the new projects. Now, you can find those numbers on page 40 of the attachment one for the active projects and page 34 on attachment one for the new projects. |
02:38:44.79 | Unknown | Right. |
02:39:09.61 | Joan Cox | Okay, but if I just look at 2526, |
02:39:13.78 | Joan Cox | So we've already budgeted for the active projects, I hope. |
02:39:18.47 | Kevin McGowan | So that's a great question. And so I wanted to clarify that, and I just didn't get to it. So thank you so much for bringing that up. So as I've looked at all of the projects, we have gone, the staff has brought these projects to you in the past and said, hey, we think it's going to cost, let's say, $1.7 million for resurfacing since Council Member Sobieski brought it up that's great but has that money really been set aside in the budget itself |
02:39:49.99 | Kevin McGowan | and it hasn't been committed. So maybe our finance director can talk a little bit about it. So the way I've addressed it this year is, whatever we've talked about before with you, has that money been set aside specifically for a contractor? And generally the answer is no. So that's why we're saying, as we're moving these toward construction, |
02:40:10.65 | Kevin McGowan | This is the amount that we're going to need this fiscal year, even though you may have in the past seen numbers on this project and said, yeah, that's great. We saw this in last fiscal year. |
02:40:20.87 | Kevin McGowan | but the money wasn't committed. |
02:40:22.92 | Kevin McGowan | So, the… |
02:40:23.51 | Joan Cox | But any time you bring a project to us, we ask, how is it being funded? And even in the agenda title, when you bring a project to us, it says, approve Edwards Avenue utilizing X number of dollars from Measure L, utilizing X number of dollars from Tidelands. So when we approve a project from the dais, we adopt a resolution, and it includes the allocation of the funding. So are you saying that when we approve a project from the dais, we adopt a resolution, and it includes the allocation of the funding. So are you saying that when we approve a project, those funds are not encumbered? |
02:40:56.12 | Kevin McGowan | It's my understanding that those funds are not committed, that they are still in a bucket. I'm hoping that... |
02:41:02.03 | Kevin McGowan | Jesus, are you here? Maybe. |
02:41:04.19 | Joan Cox | Well, I'm not going to engage with the finance director tonight, who's been here not yet a month. I'm asking you. I feel as though... |
02:41:14.25 | Joan Cox | I don't know what the process is, and perhaps that's something we can discuss offline, but when the city council gives direction to... |
02:41:22.64 | Joan Cox | spend money on a project, those monies should be segregated from monies that remain available to spend so that we're not double spending things, as you mentioned earlier tonight. Would you agree? |
02:41:35.12 | Kevin McGowan | Yes, but are those funds committed or not? Are they in... |
02:41:40.67 | Kevin McGowan | The budget. |
02:41:41.86 | Kevin McGowan | or not. |
02:41:42.53 | Joan Cox | Well, you would not bring us a project that's not in the budget. |
02:41:42.68 | Kevin McGowan | I don't know. |
02:41:43.04 | Brandon Phipps | I'm not going to answer that. |
02:41:45.64 | Brandon Phipps | Yeah, let me answer that question, Mayor. |
02:41:47.09 | Joan Cox | Okay. |
02:41:47.38 | Brandon Phipps | When the city council directs a project gets spent, you want to know where the money is coming from and if it's there. And when we bring it forward to you and you give us direction and we tell you the funding is there, the funding is there. Now, the question is, is it enough funding? And so sometimes we have to come back with requests for more funding. And that's happened. It happens in many cities. But when we bring a budget before you, we try to figure out what's committed in terms of need. And that's what Kevin's speaking to. So what he's saying is our proposal would involve $14 million of need. And what he's suggesting is if you budget this year, then the question becomes city staff, is that money there or is a portion of that money there or is none of it there? And the answer is we'd have to come back to you and tell you we have this much money in gas tax we have this much money in measure l we're short here or we've got it all because there's a grant that's supporting it or the bids came in lower but we commit money to projects when you give us direction and approval of projects i don't think that should be a question |
02:42:50.99 | Joan Cox | So the challenge I'm having is that his staff report shows $10 million in active project amount |
02:42:56.71 | Joan Cox | than $3.9 million in new priority project amount for a total of $14 million that he is characterizing as need. |
02:43:04.36 | Joan Cox | not as something that's already funded. And yet some of these projects that I know that are in this matrix, we have specifically said, use this money, use that money, having been assured those monies are there. |
02:43:18.25 | Brandon Phipps | Yeah, when you tell us that, we do that. |
02:43:20.66 | Joan Cox | Okay. |
02:43:23.39 | Joan Cox | So, and the other question I had is you're saying |
02:43:26.68 | Joan Cox | active, you're saying new project amount, 3.9 million, |
02:43:31.07 | Joan Cox | But when I'm looking... |
02:43:32.71 | Joan Cox | at |
02:43:33.42 | Joan Cox | uh, |
02:43:34.43 | Joan Cox | 20, 25, 26, it's saying, um, |
02:43:40.96 | Joan Cox | Uh, |
02:43:41.75 | Joan Cox | completed or to be completed by end of fiscal year 2526, $7.7 million. |
02:43:51.42 | Kevin McGowan | So are you looking at the staff report or are you looking at the attachment? |
02:43:54.92 | Joan Cox | I'm looking at the backup because I like the data. So I'm actually looking at the data rather than just the summary. |
02:43:59.81 | Kevin McGowan | other than you. |
02:44:01.58 | Kevin McGowan | . |
02:44:03.18 | Kevin McGowan | OK, so if you look at the data, looking at attachment one, starting on page four. |
02:44:08.18 | Joan Cox | Yep, that's where I am. |
02:44:09.19 | Kevin McGowan | You'll notice that all of those projects are noted as C, completed projects. And you'll note that under prior year allocations, a column that is in the middle of the page, you will note that there are no numbers on fiscal year 2526. So all of those have already been committed. So let's keep going. So if we go on to active projects, starting on page six, you'll notice that active projects, there are 25 of them. And you'll notice that there is some funding that is needed in the next fiscal year, specifically A02, which is Dunphy Park. And we're estimating that we'll need 1.8. |
02:44:52.81 | Kevin McGowan | My numbers are small. 1.67 million. |
02:44:55.53 | Kevin McGowan | in the next fiscal year. |
02:44:57.15 | Joan Cox | And if you go to the bottom of that column, |
02:44:59.41 | Joan Cox | it's showing a need of 9.2 million. |
02:45:02.45 | Joan Cox | Yes. In the next fiscal year. |
02:45:04.09 | Kevin McGowan | Yes. However, if you keep going, |
02:45:07.12 | Kevin McGowan | If you go to our active projects, some of those funds are already committed. In other words, we already have contracts in hand for, let's say, designers or whoever is working on that. So we have to take that out. |
02:45:21.97 | Kevin McGowan | All right, in order to make the funding correct. So if we, let's see, I mentioned another page here before. I think it was page 34. |
02:45:32.37 | Kevin McGowan | Dun, dun, dun. Page 40. |
02:45:40.18 | Kevin McGowan | So if you go to page 40 on the bottom of the page there, |
02:45:47.67 | Kevin McGowan | Didn't do. |
02:45:48.22 | Bobette McDougall | do. |
02:45:48.65 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you. |
02:45:53.65 | Kevin McGowan | Well, maybe I'm not correct here, but I do need to find the exact date numbers for you. My apologies. |
02:46:00.28 | Joan Cox | Okay. Okay. All right. That, I mean, this is a work in progress and there's a lot of work that I can see |
02:46:06.37 | Joan Cox | has gone into this, but I was having a hard time reconciling the |
02:46:09.82 | Joan Cox | numbers in the staff report with the numbers in the |
02:46:12.85 | Joan Cox | with the data in the sheets. So I had a few questions about some of the sheets. |
02:46:19.97 | Joan Cox | and how projects are classified. So let me get there. |
02:46:33.41 | Joan Cox | Okay. |
02:46:35.53 | Joan Cox | On page 73, we have the citywide design strategic plan. |
02:46:40.02 | Joan Cox | climate change adaptation plan and there's a |
02:46:43.09 | Joan Cox | picture of the flooded Gate 5 Road facilities |
02:46:48.85 | Joan Cox | Um, |
02:46:49.64 | Joan Cox | And it's showing... |
02:46:51.21 | Joan Cox | the expenditure for design in fiscal year 2526 of $540,000. Is that from grant funding? That's the WRT contract? |
02:47:03.46 | Kevin McGowan | I'm not positive. |
02:47:04.03 | Brandon Phipps | I think that's correct. Time out. Gate 5 Road. Katie, can you touch on that? Because I think that's the grant that we applied for. |
02:47:11.38 | Joan Cox | It does say WRT contract. |
02:47:16.37 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
02:47:16.39 | Mika Stefani | Can you read the title of it one more time? It says... |
02:47:19.15 | Kevin McGowan | Climate Change Adaptation Plan. The project includes the development of a plan, a document that addresses a wide range of impacts, climate change, sea level rise. Yes, that's right. |
02:47:30.56 | Alice Merrill | Yes, that's the shoreline adaptation plan, the sea level rise plan. Okay, okay, great. |
02:47:36.97 | Joan Cox | On page 76, it lists a storm drain on Liberty Ship Way, and we're going to spend $50,000 in 2526. |
02:47:54.14 | Joan Cox | We asked you to undertake a study |
02:47:57.46 | Joan Cox | of |
02:47:58.39 | Joan Cox | all of our storm drains and the need. |
02:48:00.82 | Joan Cox | um, |
02:48:01.68 | Joan Cox | Do you know when you'll have the outcome of that study and whether there are other storm drains you'll be asking us to include in 25-26? Yes. |
02:48:10.17 | Kevin McGowan | Yes. I think we should have the results of that later on this summer, probably after the next fiscal year. CSW-Steuberstro is working on the study itself. |
02:48:22.96 | Joan Cox | Okay, but I thought we commissioned that in February or something. |
02:48:28.07 | Joan Cox | We're not going to have it until after the end of this fiscal year. |
02:48:28.44 | Kevin McGowan | We're not gonna have it. |
02:48:31.11 | Kevin McGowan | Well, they still have to investigate all the linear footage of each one of the storm drains. |
02:48:36.04 | Kevin McGowan | That's not an easy task. So page 76 on the report is storm drain capture device program. So that might be a little bit different. |
02:48:46.16 | Joan Cox | Right. |
02:48:47.31 | Joan Cox | But that's what made me think of the storm drains, because we were hoping, I thought, to include in the next fiscal year, the first of 10 years to address storm drains, among other things. |
02:48:57.60 | Joan Cox | All right, I'm turning to page 87. This is for parking lot one. It's listing parking lot one as already active. It is. |
02:49:05.97 | Joan Cox | Okay. |
02:49:08.67 | Joan Cox | And this says, what this says is... |
02:49:14.09 | Joan Cox | So you're developing a project outline, but we haven't committed any money to spend on Lot 1 beyond the ferry landing improvements. |
02:49:23.56 | Kevin McGowan | That's correct. We're putting together an RFP package so that we go out to consultants to provide us options for that area. So once we get the RFPs back, we will return to your council to award a package if you so choose. |
02:49:38.81 | Unknown | Okay. |
02:49:39.10 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
02:49:44.13 | Joan Cox | On page 92, you have the sidewalk repair program with 140,000 in the coming fiscal year. |
02:49:54.34 | Joan Cox | Is that the loan program? Is that to fund the loan program since, or is that to repair city owned streets, sidewalks? |
02:50:02.77 | Kevin McGowan | It's a little bit of both. I had to go with kind of a rough idea of what I thought we would be working with. Usually other cities will set aside maybe 30% of their original budget to help residents out. So it's a little bit of both. And in order to develop the CIP, I just simply had to throw a number in there. And that's what I threw in. |
02:50:26.55 | Joan Cox | I saw the city hall game room conversion to office space. I was very happy to see that work progressing. |
02:50:33.76 | Joan Cox | Um, |
02:50:35.33 | Joan Cox | On page 107 is the MLK Building 7 parking lot. We are about to undertake a... |
02:50:44.56 | Joan Cox | ballot initiative to see about developing housing. And so |
02:50:48.93 | Joan Cox | I'm wondering if... |
02:50:51.27 | Joan Cox | we should |
02:50:52.20 | Joan Cox | And there's also another page for it. |
02:50:54.60 | Joan Cox | the corporation yard. |
02:50:55.86 | Joan Cox | Um, |
02:50:59.78 | Joan Cox | I'm wondering if we should be delaying some of that work as we consider reusing those sites for a different purpose. |
02:51:09.73 | Kevin McGowan | As you may recall, the CIP is simply a document to list projects out for a five-year period. If you'll take a look at the same sheet, 107, we're not anticipating doing anything with the parking lot until 2728. That can also be moved out for future years. |
02:51:30.27 | Kevin McGowan | Each year we come back and go, okay, where are we with the corp yard? |
02:51:34.51 | Kevin McGowan | We can move things around. |
02:51:36.94 | Joan Cox | On page 117, we are showing a future project of fixing the Trident project. |
02:51:43.70 | Joan Cox | restaurant pier. |
02:51:47.47 | Joan Cox | So I know that was listed in the... |
02:51:52.12 | Joan Cox | study, but again, |
02:51:58.60 | Joan Cox | I'm not sure the city council has. |
02:52:01.56 | Joan Cox | indicated that that's, we haven't gone through that study and said, yes, we want to update these facilities or no, we don't want to update these facilities. And so... |
02:52:10.75 | Joan Cox | Is this just an assumption that we're going? Because that's a very expensive... |
02:52:15.23 | Joan Cox | undertaking it was attempted 10 years ago |
02:52:18.06 | Joan Cox | the planning commission |
02:52:19.82 | Joan Cox | could not approve it because of the changing |
02:52:23.09 | Joan Cox | Um, |
02:52:24.27 | Joan Cox | requirements for |
02:52:25.94 | Joan Cox | how high |
02:52:27.48 | Joan Cox | The water underneath would be and the distance that need to be maintained between that and the deck of the dock. |
02:52:36.13 | Kevin McGowan | There was no intention on my part to |
02:52:39.90 | Kevin McGowan | try to understand those complexities. I had a report from the facility assessment report. It had a listing of projects that they prioritized. And so I took those projects and re-looked at them and then included those that are greater than $35,000 for a five year period. Only those that are listed. |
02:53:02.63 | Kevin McGowan | I made no distinction of the complexity of whether we would move forward with it or not. |
02:53:07.66 | Kevin McGowan | It's only listed because it's on the |
02:53:09.97 | Kevin McGowan | Building Assessment Study. |
02:53:11.33 | Joan Cox | Okay, I really appreciate that clarification. |
02:53:14.14 | Joan Cox | Um, |
02:53:16.09 | Joan Cox | And then City Hall on page 131. It's City Hall ceiling. Update and paint all ceiling finishes in City Hall. And it says not started. |
02:53:25.24 | Joan Cox | But we know you just did |
02:53:27.60 | Joan Cox | This ceiling. |
02:53:29.76 | Kevin McGowan | So I think the building facility assessment says all ceilings in city hall. We only started this one because we had some issues with some things flaking off the ceiling. So we had to get to this one immediately. |
02:53:44.63 | Kevin McGowan | So based on the facility assessment study, we probably need to do the rest of the things in the building. |
02:53:51.43 | Joan Cox | Okay. |
02:53:51.97 | Joan Cox | Thank you for your indulgence. I just really wanted to understand how these projects were assembled and categorized in terms of their status. |
02:54:01.32 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you. It was good questions. |
02:54:04.54 | Mayor | I'm taking off a little bit from what the mayor has just asked in terms of funding. I just want to go back to the fact that this is a five-year horizon. These are your recommendations at this moment in time without really reconciling all the funding. |
02:54:21.55 | Mayor | necessary and certainly without having us given direction for the forthcoming budget yet. But this will help us do that and that's how I see this document. |
02:54:31.41 | Mayor | Um, |
02:54:32.17 | Mayor | And I just want to compliment you for doing a couple things that I think are really important and shouldn't be overlooked when the public looks at this volume. There's an attachment three that you list your criteria for your evaluation. And I was pleased personally to see public safety being put into the mix because if we are, for example, trying to choose between paving five roads and we don't have enough money to pave five, but we may have enough money to pave two, |
02:55:01.95 | Mayor | which two should be paved is it the one that's the most deteriorated |
02:55:05.83 | Mayor | Or is it the one that has the greatest impact on public safety or is used by the greatest number of people? These are the kinds of things we'll be looking at, I assume. |
02:55:15.50 | Mayor | since we don't have unlimited funds to do all these things. So that's, to me, that was a real plus to read that and see how you think about that and you put it in writing. I really appreciate that. I also am thankful... |
02:55:29.83 | Mayor | that you look at each project and where it's appropriate, you separate design from professional services needed, then construction costs, and then construction management. So you might have to hire a construction manager to supervise a particular project like the Ferryland landside project. And then my question to you, though, as head of DPW, do you have enough staff to coordinate these things? |
02:55:58.36 | Kevin McGowan | So that's a great question. |
02:56:01.57 | Kevin McGowan | it. |
02:56:02.14 | Kevin McGowan | I would say yes and no. If you'll notice, if you compared the CIP from last year to this year, we had some projects on there that we thought we could get to, and we just haven't had the time. |
02:56:13.67 | Kevin McGowan | So what we'll try to do is take care of the most important ones that the council recognizes. And some of the smaller things, they may get pushed off and we may have to come back after them later on. |
02:56:26.26 | Kevin McGowan | One of the things I mentioned in our DPW update was a water storage system. It was on our list last year. We just didn't get to it. So we do our best with our project managers. We have two. The most that they can manage is probably six to eight projects at one time. And you'll notice we have 25 active projects and another nine. So we'll have to spread these out over the year. |
02:56:49.58 | Kevin McGowan | We can't handle them all at once. |
02:56:51.74 | Kevin McGowan | And that shouldn't be expected. We'll try to get to them sequentially and do our best to handle the highest priority ones first. |
02:56:59.77 | Mayor | Speaking of priorities, I served on the Landslide Task Force, which was really so glad to see the work that's been done subsequent to monitor landslides. And then I know I think there are at least two projects that involve some retaining walls in slide-prone areas. |
02:57:17.74 | Kevin McGowan | Yes, that's right. |
02:57:19.13 | Mayor | And are they underway? Are they funded? What's the status of those? |
02:57:23.41 | Kevin McGowan | Oh, the two projects, one is on Bridgeway, just below Woodward. |
02:57:29.22 | Kevin McGowan | And we are, we have plans in hand. We'd like to bring that to council to move that. |
02:57:34.10 | Kevin McGowan | out to bid. |
02:57:35.28 | Kevin McGowan | So we're ready to go out for the construction end of that one. |
02:57:38.30 | Kevin McGowan | The other wall, which is at Marion and East, no, not Easterby, but |
02:57:46.80 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you. |
02:57:46.84 | Mayor | Edwards |
02:57:47.38 | Kevin McGowan | Thank you so much. |
02:57:48.07 | Mayor | I can't participate when that one comes up because I live too close, but I'm well aware of it. |
02:57:52.86 | Kevin McGowan | That one has the plans ready to go, but we're going to need an easement. |
02:57:56.57 | Kevin McGowan | So that may take a little time just to get the easements from the uphill property owner. So our senior engineer is working on that. And with any luck, we would hope to have both of these out closer to the end of summer, which is more opportune time to do soil work. |
02:58:14.39 | Mayor | I think you've answered the mayor's questions about parking lot one, and I know there's a lot of interest in parking lot one, and I think your approach is to get some alternative designs to look at first before we make any hard decisions. That's great. And then you mentioned docks, and I'm very close to docks, having participated in building one that, actually two, floating docks for Matthew Turner and Schooner Seward. And there's been some talk about the possibility of public-private partnerships that we could pursue, perhaps at Humboldt Street and perhaps next to the Trident. I'm not saying it's a burden of hand, but it's certainly something we ought to look at when we're concerned about limited funds. What projects on your list might we go to the private sector for contributions, for coordination, for volunteer work, et cetera, that might be useful and might be doable? Just a thought. But again, thank you for your hard work on this, and I look forward to our new finance director having to help us understand the finances and what we think we can afford to spend this coming year. Thank you. |
02:58:28.11 | Josh Richman | That's great. |
02:58:28.52 | Mika Stefani | Thank you. |
02:59:23.80 | Joan Cox | I'm just going to follow on very quickly. |
02:59:26.38 | Joan Cox | as I now understand it, the, the, |
02:59:29.42 | Joan Cox | attachments, one |
02:59:31.61 | Joan Cox | two, three, are all based upon the assessment study. |
02:59:37.00 | Joan Cox | in your staff report on pages... |
02:59:42.08 | Joan Cox | where you list primary and future for 2526, you list 31 projects. Those are the projects you're recommending we undertake in fiscal year 2526. |
02:59:53.18 | Kevin McGowan | I'm recommending the nine projects known as primary because they have safety related issues. I want, we wanted to bring up some other projects that we felt could be important to the council or could be important to the city. Those are listed as future projects, picking and choosing from those. You're also welcome to go back to the, the entire huge product document and pick out other projects that you may think are important. But you're recommending, |
03:00:19.52 | Joan Cox | Grab others. |
03:00:20.84 | Joan Cox | But your recommendations right now are really memorialized in the staff report and not in the attachments. Yes. Even though you did use the weighted... |
03:00:25.06 | Kevin McGowan | and not in the world. |
03:00:26.12 | Kevin McGowan | Yes. |
03:00:28.45 | Joan Cox | analysis in attachment three that we appreciate okay thank you for that clarification |
03:00:34.32 | Council Member Blousting | Great. |
03:00:35.91 | Council Member Blousting | Thank you for that great presentation, Director McGowan, and also City Manager. You guys have accomplished a lot with the Capital Improvement Program, so great to see things moving forward. I had a couple of questions. You know, I'm aware that we're considering a sewer consolidation, and when you talked about what would be in the breadth of the CIP, you mentioned, you know, 21 miles of sanitary sewer collection system that we're responsible for. When we think about our priorities for the CIP moving forward, do those shift? Should we pursue or be successful in our consolidation efforts? |
03:01:07.08 | Kevin McGowan | But when you say shift... |
03:01:08.51 | Council Member Blousting | I mean, I'm sorry, like, should we be successful in following through on that? I know we're in talks to complete that consolidation potentially. So that might take some of the burden of cost associated with sewer upkeep from our CIP and allow us to make some changes. |
03:01:24.14 | Kevin McGowan | Yes, that would be a good idea. The district is more familiar with handling specific issues related to sewer collection systems. Not that we're not familiar with them, but that is their business. That is exactly what they do compared to some in my division where we deal with buildings, streets, and other things. So they're more attuned to dealing with that work. |
03:01:48.47 | Council Member Blousting | Okay, but it won't shift to our overall prioritization for our CIP. |
03:01:52.87 | Kevin McGowan | It shouldn't this fiscal year. However, next fiscal year, let's say for the sake of argument that the district decides to do a whole lot of projects in one area. We may want to change our focus so that we address our roads and our systems if they're going to dig it up for us just to put their new systems in. So we may want to work closely with them in the future so that we can coordinate our CIP with the work that they're doing. |
03:02:22.05 | Kevin McGowan | JOIN. |
03:02:22.61 | Council Member Blousting | Okay, and being aware, since a lot of those pipes run along Bridgeway, and I hate to bring this up again, but we did talk at our Bridgeway meeting at length about specific improvements to the crosswalks and potentially adding bollards, and I didn't see those directly mentioned in this CIP, so I'm wondering... |
03:02:39.72 | Council Member Blousting | you know, what our plan is, should we want to move forward with some of the crosswalks that we had discussed or, and then I have a follow up on that if you want to just. |
03:02:47.85 | Kevin McGowan | Yes. So if you'll notice on the staff report under future projects, the first one listed is the Bridgeway Pedestrian Crossings Princess to Richardson. So it is on there if your council wants us to proceed with that. It would be generally working with a consultant first up to lay those out and make sure that they work. Some of the other projects that were mentioned in that meeting are also on here, and I'm trying to find the rest of them. But take a look at that future list, and it should include most of those issues. |
03:03:20.37 | Council Member Blousting | And one of the pieces of direction that was given at that meeting also was to use some of the and I know Katie is here some of the funding from the sea level rise assessment to address the sea wall I saw it in your staff report as if you wanted to see the direction to move forward on that so that would that be something we would do. |
03:03:36.54 | Council Member Blousting | this evening in the context of this meeting, or would you have to come for because there isn't a clear page on it in the CIP as there are for a number of other projects? |
03:03:45.21 | Kevin McGowan | I would be, I'm interested in whether you would like us to move that forward. I think it is on the list, but it's listed as a future project. If you want to have it emphasized next fiscal year to start the design. |
03:03:58.63 | Kevin McGowan | Sure, we can do that. |
03:04:00.26 | Council Member Blousting | Okay, great. And then I just wanted to clarify one more thing on the staff report. Obviously, we're all very aware of the $58 million for the facility assessment, which has a huge impact on this. But in the first part of the staff report, it was a typo where it said, |
03:04:13.93 | Council Member Blousting | And I'm not trying to make sure I'm getting the number right, because I don't seem too small that that they did incorporate 34 of these projects as an estimated 35 K construction costs, but it's 350,000 for that those first 34 projects right. |
03:04:27.11 | Kevin McGowan | So where are we in the staff report? |
03:04:27.52 | Council Member Blousting | are we in the- |
03:04:28.66 | Council Member Blousting | I don't remember exactly where I copied and pasted into my notes. I can find it. |
03:04:33.29 | Kevin McGowan | So I think it's- |
03:04:34.92 | Council Member Blousting | It doesn't matter where it is. I just want to make sure I'm clear on the costs that we have with regards to these projects and the facilities assessment, because it does shift, you know, how we think about what we need to immediately do. |
03:04:44.04 | Kevin McGowan | Right. What I was trying to do with all the new projects from the facility assessment study was separate them out between projects that are $35,000 and less get to be included into one project. |
03:04:59.11 | Council Member Blousting | Okay, great. |
03:04:59.58 | Kevin McGowan | And those that are more than $35,000 would be included in building assessment in an attachment |
03:05:07.83 | Council Member Blousting | In the FAS section that you have? Yes. Okay, perfect. Okay, I appreciate that you separated that out. Okay, great. Thank you. That's all I have for right now. |
03:05:09.50 | Kevin McGowan | Yeah. |
03:05:16.74 | Council Member Blousting | So Member Hoffman? |
03:05:17.47 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
03:05:22.01 | Councilmember Hoffman | So for tonight, thank you for this presentation and the tremendous amount of work that you guys did to put this together. So I know it clearly it's a lot of work. |
03:05:30.83 | Councilmember Hoffman | And so for tonight, it appears to be this is sort of informational. This is the scope of what we could be doing. I mean, clearly there's more infrastructure work that needs to be done than we have budget for. And so it's just the universe of what could be done, what your prioritization is, certainly in recommendation of what the highest priority is, and that's your primary work. Those are your nine priorities. |
03:05:57.26 | Councilmember Hoffman | you know, recommendation for primary, what we should be doing. |
03:06:00.68 | Councilmember Hoffman | And then. |
03:06:01.73 | Councilmember Hoffman | potential optional future projects, and then a universe of |
03:06:06.07 | Councilmember Hoffman | projects that we could be doing. And that's the, whatever, 224 pages. |
03:06:11.70 | Councilmember Hoffman | Yeah. |
03:06:11.75 | Kevin McGowan | Sorry about that. That's okay. |
03:06:12.95 | Councilmember Hoffman | That's okay. Of projects. And, you know, I'm very happy that we got the facilities assessment done. I think that's super helpful. And also telling us the universe of deferred maintenance that we have on all of our facilities and gives us a scope of kind of the enormity of what we have of all of our facilities across Sassalita that we own and gives us a scope of what we can focus in on and what we need to do. And so, you know, some of the things that I've been looking at as I go through here, different buildings are sometimes referred to different ways across some of them. |
03:06:36.12 | Mika Stefani | Cross Austin. |
03:06:56.32 | Councilmember Hoffman | some of the different reports. And so I thought it was interesting as I was looking through here. So the Arts Building is referred to, as I'm looking through here, and it's Arts Building and it's Bank of America Building, but those are really, |
03:07:15.31 | Councilmember Hoffman | When it says arts building, that's the Bank of America building, right? |
03:07:18.21 | Kevin McGowan | Yeah, I was if I missed one, it should be listed as the Arts Building Bank of America is. I'll take a look again to see if I can find that. |
03:07:26.71 | Councilmember Hoffman | No, that's okay. It's just page 99. I just want to make sure that I'm capturing this correctly. And then also in the... |
03:07:35.49 | Councilmember Hoffman | Facilities assessment that we got from Veritas, it's also referred to a little bit differently. I think it says Sausalito Arts Building, but I think that's also the Bank of America Building. |
03:07:45.76 | Kevin McGowan | It is. That's correct. |
03:07:47.05 | Councilmember Hoffman | And then I think on one of your slides, it's also listed a little bit differently tonight. |
03:07:52.72 | Councilmember Hoffman | I think it was also something, some sort of variation about that. So, but is that, is that one of the optional projects or primary project or is that just |
03:07:56.82 | Kevin McGowan | you know. |
03:07:56.87 | Unknown | Thank you. |
03:08:02.77 | Kevin McGowan | You know, any one of those, you can always move them forward. So far on the arts building, I have most of these in not next fiscal year, but the year after that. |
03:08:16.10 | Councilmember Hoffman | Okay, because I did see that on the Veritas, that there was some maintenance, well, some work that needed to be done, a million six or something that needed to be done on that building, on the arts building. So, okay, along with the maintenance across town on the building. So, okay, just want to make sure that was clear. |
03:08:38.62 | Councilmember Hoffman | Um, |
03:08:39.43 | Councilmember Hoffman | Okay, well, thank you. So then we'll address this. Then you're expecting to get our recommendations and feedback on our recommendations to move forward during... |
03:08:49.06 | Councilmember Hoffman | at what point |
03:08:51.36 | Councilmember Hoffman | would you expect our |
03:08:53.87 | Kevin McGowan | Maybe I can I can help a little bit. Council Member Sobieski had a suggestion of do we want to put more emphasis on roadways right now we have about two point something million set aside annually for roadways. Do we want to do you would you like to do more. |
03:09:10.90 | Kevin McGowan | And if so, |
03:09:11.96 | Kevin McGowan | We can increase that budget and come back to your council and say, okay, |
03:09:15.30 | Kevin McGowan | Let's include these roads as well. |
03:09:17.51 | Kevin McGowan | Or maybe there's an emphasis to take a look at accessibility issues, different places. Do we want to emphasize that? Or sidewalks? So just getting your input on what your thoughts are and on where we should be moving in the next year may be very helpful. And then I can work with our finance department so that we balance the accounts and balance the projects so that they align with how much money we have. |
03:09:44.26 | Councilmember Hoffman | Did you want that tonight or? |
03:09:46.20 | Kevin McGowan | Just your thoughts would be good. |
03:09:48.34 | Councilmember Hoffman | So I think, I wanna thank the city manager for including our strategic plan that we did in January. |
03:09:56.43 | Councilmember Hoffman | on tonight's report. So I was reviewing that and I think that was very good refresher for us to include that with this packet tonight because I think that still holds up and that was from the strategic re |
03:10:13.39 | Councilmember Hoffman | I don't think we called it a retreat. We called it a planning session. |
03:10:16.44 | Councilmember Hoffman | back in January. But, I mean, those priorities... |
03:10:20.66 | Councilmember Hoffman | that we had listed are still |
03:10:23.95 | Councilmember Hoffman | you know, pretty good priorities. And, you know, with infrastructure, obviously, it was number one. And I was just reading it. So let me go back and |
03:10:34.94 | Councilmember Hoffman | See if I can find where that list of 10 was. |
03:10:41.32 | Councilmember Hoffman | But it was still, you know, those were still, I would say those are still the priorities of the city council. |
03:10:52.60 | Councilmember Hoffman | Streets were number one, I think. So that would always be streets. Shoot, I just had it up here. I was just looking at it, sorry. |
03:11:02.88 | Kevin McGowan | I think the attachment number five. Yeah, it was maintenance on facility. |
03:11:07.28 | Councilmember Hoffman | maintenance on facilities, right? Maintenance on facilities, sea level rise, flooding. |
03:11:12.40 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
03:11:12.97 | Councilmember Hoffman | storm drains, repair existing stairs, landslide, the task force recommendations, which you were just talking about, geologic hazard, ADA transition, and those things, which I think are probably in your top nine anyway. So I wouldn't – anyway. |
03:11:26.47 | Mika Stefani | Anyway. |
03:11:32.41 | Councilmember Hoffman | I think as we move through this, you know, I wouldn't want to start readjusting too much with your $12 million. Of course, we're going to give you feedback as we move through this, but I know how complicated the plan is and allocation of the funds is, too. |
03:11:47.70 | Bobette McDougall | Thank you. |
03:11:49.94 | Councilmember Hoffman | but I'll be reviewing it as well. |
03:11:52.51 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
03:11:54.18 | Brandon Phipps | Thank you. |
03:11:54.25 | Joan Cox | to. |
03:11:54.33 | Brandon Phipps | manager thank you mayor and councilmember Hoffman I think that's good to refer back to what the council agreed upon in February and what I think is important to kind of take note of is what's happened since then and what's happened since then I think points to the Spencer firehouse as something that we hadn't really talked about that's new to talk about the princess or the which not the rich the bridgeway improvements from princess to Richardson which we hadn't talked about then either. But I think those are two new add-ons to me that have some significant. or the Bridgeway improvements from Princess to Richardson, which we hadn't talked about then either. But I think those are two new add-ons to me that have some significance that I believe we should bring back. And also, once we look at our numbers, what's available to augment our road funds, our storm drain funds, and maybe come back to you with that as a starting point. I think that's what I would recommend. But I heard good comments about what is important to you Thank you. with that as a starting point. I think that's what I would recommend, but I heard good comments about, you know, what is important to you, and the questions to clarify some of the information from staff is good. And now it's a matter of, you know, giving you something to look at and say yes or no to. And so I think we can do that. We won't get it totally right, but we can do that for a swath of the budget. My understanding is we're looking at three budget meetings. One of them could be the start and finish of this. The second one could be the draft budget. And the third one could be the budget adoption. So those three steps would involve your time to do this thing that's really important because, again, you know, capital improvements are a portion of the budget and a significant important part of the budget. But there are other aspects of the budget as well. But we need to nail this down pretty quickly. |
03:13:38.00 | Joan Cox | Okay, with that, I'm going to open it up to public comment. Thank you. |
03:13:46.74 | City Clerk | We have Babette McDougall. |
03:13:52.19 | Joan Cox | Actually, I have Carolyn Revell. I have a card. I don't have a card yet for Babette. |
03:13:55.07 | City Clerk | I don't know. |
03:13:57.44 | City Clerk | She's online. |
03:13:59.09 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
03:13:59.11 | Joan Cox | Oh, okay. |
03:13:59.53 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
03:14:02.85 | Carolyn Revell | Good evening again. I'm here representing Sausalito Beautiful, Carolyn Revell. I'd like to focus on green infrastructure in the proposed CIP, specifically street trees and parks. Sausalito Beautiful has advocated regularly for funding for street trees on both |
03:14:18.60 | Carolyn Revell | Caledonia and Bridgeway for aesthetic and sustainability |
03:14:22.66 | Carolyn Revell | reasons |
03:14:23.69 | Carolyn Revell | with the successful completion of the ferry landing and the creation of the downtown Sausalito. |
03:14:28.50 | Carolyn Revell | improvement district, |
03:14:29.89 | Carolyn Revell | we feel completing the replacement of the dying calorie pears on downtown Bridgeway, all afflicted with fire blight, should take precedent for the next couple of years. Following recommendations in the 2018 report by Bartlett Tree Experts, the city has already replaced eight of these dying pear trees with Chinese pistache trees. The current budget allocates $60,000 to add six new trees on downtown Bridgeway this year, and we hope to work closely with Kevin and staff on implementing that. Um, |
03:15:01.06 | Carolyn Revell | the proposal in your |
03:15:03.43 | Carolyn Revell | staff report for FY2526. CIP is $30,000 and similar amounts. And we would love to see $60,000 for the next year and the following year so we can really get a jump on... |
03:15:17.49 | Carolyn Revell | completing that project and enhancing our downtown. So we would love to see 60,000 for that. And the longer you spread out the project, the more the price rises. And I've been documenting that over the years. |
03:15:29.69 | Carolyn Revell | for all the trees. |
03:15:31.90 | Carolyn Revell | Also, the staff report has a recommendation for sidewalk improvements, and we'd love to work closely on that as sidewalks are, trees are removed for sidewalks. We'd like to work to be sure new ones are added. Regarding parks, our main proposal is to include the proposed city parks master plan in the FY 2526 budget. Currently it's recommended for a few years hence, but we think it's important that, |
03:15:59.73 | Carolyn Revell | you have a master plan for parks so that improvement recommendations for spending money on parks aligns with a, with a master plan. So those are our recommendations. Thank you. Thank you very much. |
03:16:10.28 | City Clerk | Online week. |
03:16:11.63 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
03:16:11.68 | City Clerk | Well, |
03:16:12.10 | City Clerk | anymore. |
03:16:12.23 | Carolyn Revell | Thank you. |
03:16:12.76 | City Clerk | Online, we have a bet. McDougal. |
03:16:17.58 | Ian | Am I on? |
03:16:19.42 | City Clerk | Yes. |
03:16:19.79 | Bobette McDougall | Thank you. |
03:16:20.32 | Ian | Thank you. So for the record, the agenda reflects three minutes per public comment for this section of the meeting. |
03:16:27.45 | Ian | Are we not doing that now? |
03:16:29.83 | Joan Cox | We are not. We had a number of members of the public who wanted to comment on various items this evening. And so we reduced the public comment time to two minutes for the agenda item. |
03:16:40.65 | Ian | Absolutely. |
03:16:42.32 | Ian | Okay, I wasn't sure if this applied to this particular section. Thank you for clarifying. First of all, I want to thank you, Madam Mayor, because I thought the way you... |
03:16:49.53 | Ian | zoomed in on Director McGowan |
03:16:51.59 | Ian | to explain a little more clearly what he meant by goes back in the bucket thing, |
03:16:55.50 | Ian | I really appreciated that because, boy, that raised a flag with me. |
03:16:59.05 | Ian | And so thank you for making sure that was clarified. |
03:17:01.98 | Ian | I also want to thank Mr. Sobieski because I think |
03:17:05.51 | Ian | This idea of going stem to stern on Bridgeway is more practical, and I believe that he is correct. I said... |
03:17:12.41 | Ian | I personally agree that if we do a greater lengths of Bridgeway, that it will not only look better, but ultimately it will be a net savings. And that's important because the city is oozing red ink right now. |
03:17:23.90 | Ian | between the combination of carrying the debt |
03:17:26.85 | Ian | of our own tenants, which is really cost prohibitive for this city at this point, because we're paying lawyers. I mean, my God, it feels like we've met the annual budget month by month lately. It's just crazy how much money is being poured out for these things. So I really am so glad that we're having this |
03:17:45.96 | Ian | Big picture discussion. It really matters. And I want to thank Director McGowan for putting together such a fantastic presentation. |
03:17:53.25 | Ian | And thank you all very much for paying attention. Remember, we have to work together. We need a conservative approach if you want to win the constituent majority support for what you do going forward. And you won't end up on the ballot when we vote for on the zoning. We won't look for new members on the council. So there you go, where we are. This is where we are. Thank you so much for what you're doing. I'd like to see you guys keep going in favor of the citizens, the majority of constituent citizens. Thank you. |
03:18:25.73 | City Clerk | Next speaker is Sybil Boutier. |
03:18:31.05 | Joan Cox | Welcome, Sybil. |
03:18:32.80 | Sybil Boutier | Thank you, Mayor Cox, City Council members and Director Phipps. I just want to... |
03:18:40.82 | Sybil Boutier | City Manager, I just want to put in a word for the Coloma Street sidewalk and the |
03:18:48.01 | Sybil Boutier | Thank you. |
03:18:48.12 | Sybil Boutier | Safe Routes to School project, which also included |
03:18:51.95 | Sybil Boutier | the sidewalk all the way to Lima Street. |
03:18:55.15 | Sybil Boutier | which is so important for the seniors |
03:18:58.06 | Sybil Boutier | and other people, the dog walkers and all the folks up at this end |
03:19:02.20 | Sybil Boutier | who have to walk down the middle of that street |
03:19:05.39 | Sybil Boutier | to go to Bridgeway |
03:19:07.97 | Sybil Boutier | and get to any services |
03:19:10.69 | Sybil Boutier | And it's very dangerous. It's a blind corner. |
03:19:15.06 | Sybil Boutier | and people moving in various directions, especially when school is getting out. |
03:19:19.68 | Sybil Boutier | or beginning in the morning, |
03:19:22.06 | Sybil Boutier | at the French school and |
03:19:25.62 | Sybil Boutier | Cars are coming out of that driveway and coming in both directions on the street. |
03:19:30.45 | Sybil Boutier | And there's no other place to walk to get down to Bridgeway or to get to a grocery store. So it's very important for the folks that live here as well as for the students that are commuting from Marin City and elsewhere. And... |
03:19:48.33 | Sybil Boutier | I just wanted to elevate it again. |
03:19:52.84 | Sybil Boutier | I know that, um, |
03:19:54.44 | Sybil Boutier | There may be an opportunity to |
03:19:56.79 | Sybil Boutier | do more development at Marin. |
03:19:59.47 | Sybil Boutier | at the |
03:20:01.14 | Sybil Boutier | MLK Park. |
03:20:02.80 | Sybil Boutier | if the ballot measure goes through and so forth, but that's a little bit down the line. And this is an issue that we've been working on for over a year or more. And every day that passes when people are walking down the middle of the street, sometimes at night. |
03:20:19.35 | Joan Cox | Can I ask whoever in the audience has a device to step out into the hallway? |
03:20:26.78 | Sybil Boutier | I'm sorry. |
03:20:28.50 | Sybil Boutier | Sorry. |
03:20:28.53 | Joan Cox | Sorry, I couldn't hear what you're saying because someone's listening to a news broadcast or something. |
03:20:34.54 | Sybil Boutier | Oh, thank you. |
03:20:36.38 | Sybil Boutier | So just elevating the attention to |
03:20:40.55 | Sybil Boutier | completing the project, doing the project for a sidewalk along Coloma Street from Bridgeway to Olima with the crosswalk and the safety issues that have been discussed. |
03:20:55.48 | City Clerk | All further public speakers? |
03:20:56.85 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
03:20:56.90 | Sybil Boutier | All right. |
03:20:57.25 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
03:20:57.57 | Joan Cox | Thank you. I will close public comment and bring it up here for any further discussion. |
03:21:05.45 | Joan Cox | Councilmember Sobieski. |
03:21:06.91 | Councilmember Sobieski | I think Director McGowan solicited our thoughts, and I probably have a lot, it's a lot of material, |
03:21:14.60 | Councilmember Sobieski | Virg rays look terrible for a long time. |
03:21:17.32 | Councilmember Sobieski | I don't know if we want to grind it all the way |
03:21:19.95 | Councilmember Sobieski | to the base and pay the big money to |
03:21:22.94 | Councilmember Sobieski | professionally reseal it for another 20 years of expected life, or if we only want to do a slurry seal, they'll have a three-year expected life. That's a choice I'd like to consider. From the southern end of town, at least to Napa Street. So that's a priority. |
03:21:42.24 | Councilmember Sobieski | That's a thought I have that I want to share. So that's it. |
03:21:50.41 | Council Member Blousting | So we're going on a break. |
03:21:52.26 | Council Member Blousting | I agree with your comments about Bridgeway. I also would really like to see us make improvements to safety on Bridgeway a priority, given the amount of safety concerns that we did here in the context of the conversation about what to do regarding the lack of crosswalks, the bollards, the Golden Gate market. I think there was a lot of community requests for us to respond to that. So I'd like to see us do that. And also, you know, in thinking about climate resilience and how do we move forward with a plan for us for sea level rise, would like to see to that. So I'd like to see us do that. And also, in thinking about climate resilience and how do we move forward with a plan for us for sea level rise, would like to see us immediately start to look more closely at what that project means. And so I think a lot of the potential future projects that are addressed, I'd like to see more of an outline for what those could be. But in general, I'm really supportive of the work that the departments put together and appreciate all of the time and effort. |
03:22:41.83 | Council Member Blousting | Thank you. |
03:22:48.31 | Councilmember Hoffman | I think it was a great report, very detailed, and I appreciate all the work that went into it. I think this is now that we have the facilities assessment back from Veritas, now is a really great time to do a matchup with our deferred maintenance against the funds that we have or the segregated funds or the enterprise funds that we have, the way that we've budgeted and match up, especially those funds against the deferred maintenance and the maintenance schedules that we have with the Veritas report, and match those revenue producing capital assets that we have against the required maintenance that we see that's outstanding in the schedule that Veritas gave us. And so the revenue that's produced by those capital assets that we have should be specifically, this would be the time that we would start marrying those capital generating assets directly back into the maintenance that's needed for those assets. And this would be the time to start doing that. And this year is when we should start doing that. So that would be my request, that we start doing that, and we see that reflected this year in our budget. |
03:24:12.07 | Joan Cox | Thanks. I don't have a lot to add. I endorse the comments of my fellow council members. I was really pleased to see under the future projects a bunch of access projects. Not a whole lot of money to invest in those, but we do have in place an ADA. |
03:24:32.31 | Joan Cox | decree and so i'm very pleased to see uh access improvements for several of our parks i do not see lot one um in the active or future projects i think we do although it's listed in the matrix as being active and so i do think we need to |
03:24:53.25 | Joan Cox | add that |
03:24:54.45 | Joan Cox | Um, |
03:24:55.39 | Joan Cox | You know, we certainly have a rough order of magnitude of funding that we could use for reference. I just don't want it to be left out of our... |
03:25:08.57 | Joan Cox | proposed expenditures. We're just about to do a ribbon cutting of the ferry landing and the |
03:25:15.31 | Joan Cox | Lot one. |
03:25:16.52 | Joan Cox | potholes are really challenging. So, um, |
03:25:23.10 | Joan Cox | And I was really pleased to see Fire Station 2, some of that commenced. |
03:25:31.54 | Joan Cox | What would be helpful for us the next time is this staff report lists total amounts, and then it has allocations from the Tideland Fund, but it would be great to see. |
03:25:44.43 | Joan Cox | on the left hand side of the 31 projects and then |
03:25:49.04 | Joan Cox | the matrix of how they're each going to be funded so we can see how you arrived at 284,500 for |
03:25:55.91 | Joan Cox | Tidelands, $80,000 for stair fund, et cetera, et cetera. But I want to echo my fellow council members in saying this is a great first effort, and a lot of work obviously went into this. It's great to see you. |
03:26:11.67 | Joan Cox | capitalizing on the work of Bureau Veritas. And I look forward to receiving the work regarding the storm drains, which will help us to complete the picture. So thank you so much. |
03:26:25.49 | Joan Cox | All right, and with that, we will move on. |
03:26:31.02 | Joan Cox | Sorry? He said he didn't have any. |
03:26:36.32 | Joan Cox | Um, |
03:26:37.33 | Joan Cox | We started early, but we ended late. So we're on to city manager reports, council member reports, city council appointments, and other council business. So first up is 6A city manager. |
03:26:49.69 | Brandon Phipps | Mayor, I want to thank the council and staff for allowing me to take a week off. So I appreciate Brandon Phipps doing the work. So I do not have a report that's important enough to talk about tonight. |
03:27:05.94 | Joan Cox | Great. City Attorney, any information for counsel? |
03:27:10.83 | City Attorney | No, not at this time in light of the late hour. |
03:27:14.97 | Joan Cox | Okay. |
03:27:15.81 | Joan Cox | Will you stay on the line, city attorney, because the next item is city council member report, committee reports, and there are two proposed letters here for opposition that Council Member Hoffman and I provided. We're seeking endorsement for the city to, |
03:27:43.87 | Joan Cox | utilize the sample letters to oppose SB 79 and SB 634. So that's the requested action. First, I'll ask, are there any other city council member reports? |
03:28:03.87 | Joan Cox | Yeah. |
03:28:05.64 | Councilmember Hoffman | I just had a follow-up request on the, we had a board meeting for the Sausalito Sister City organization, and they asked me to follow up on the Sister City. July 1. July 1. |
03:28:15.40 | Joan Cox | July 1. |
03:28:16.44 | Joan Cox | Since Kashkish is coming July 1 to 5, we said July 1. Yeah, that'd be great. Okay, thank you. I'll pass along. |
03:28:23.97 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
03:28:24.58 | Joan Cox | um, |
03:28:26.97 | Joan Cox | Did you want to report on the forum that you moderated and your role as? |
03:28:32.39 | Councilmember Hoffman | Oh, and... |
03:28:33.62 | Councilmember Hoffman | Sure. North Bay. Oh, yeah. Well, we had a we had a the North Bay Executive Committee and it was broader. So I think it was I can't I don't know who always invited, but it was broader than just the executive committee. But we hosted Congressman Huffman and Congressman Thompson. So it was all of the North Bay committees. |
03:28:56.08 | Councilmember Hoffman | committee. So it was the entire Solano County and Contra Cross County. It was a very broad group. And we hosted both of the congressmen for an hour, a conversation about sort of what was going on in |
03:29:13.07 | Councilmember Hoffman | just free-ranging sort of conversation about what was going on in Washington, D.C., and legislation that was coming down and ways that we could navigate sort of all of the changing landscape, the never-ending changing landscape, and how cities could help our congressmen actually help us, help them us um and it was uh incredibly interesting um as we uh talked our way through that conversation and what we could expect in the next few months which was you could expect more changes um and um you know uh it was it was It was interesting for the scope and breadth of changes that we've seen in the last four months of changing for funding and the narrowness of what we've seen and the scope of change of funding. So that's about all I can report. I'm sorry. It was sort of a grim conversation. But know that the two congressmen are working very, very hard to support our districts, and that was sort of the conversation. Thank you. |
03:30:34.29 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
03:30:34.31 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
03:30:35.58 | Unknown | Thank you. |
03:30:35.95 | Joan Cox | any other um committee reports from council members okay then i'm going to open it up to public comment and then we will see if we can take action on these two requests any public comment |
03:30:50.41 | Joan Cox | I see none in the... |
03:30:52.33 | Joan Cox | Chambers. |
03:30:54.88 | Joan Cox | No, we have it listed here specifically, City Clerk, for item 6C. |
03:31:01.55 | Bobette McDougall | All right, Bobette McDougall. |
03:31:05.82 | Ian | Once again, what a confusing agenda page. |
03:31:09.04 | Ian | because 6A and 6B were supposed to have independent public comment. So just like the other items. Thank you for acknowledging me, but I'm just sorry that I'm so confused by this. |
03:31:20.21 | Ian | preparation of the agenda tonight. I apologize for that. |
03:31:24.09 | Ian | Okay, so here's what I want to say, bottom line, with regard to these reports. |
03:31:28.41 | Ian | with regard to the city manager's information in particular. |
03:31:32.41 | Ian | I think it's very clear at this point that we're getting a pretty darn good staff team together. And I really strongly believe that. And I've even told Miss Garcia how I feel about this. I believe everything that we do up and down this community, especially as it affects Bridgeway, either east or west, needs to begin with Miss Garcia and the tasks with which she is responsible for oversight. I don't think she needs to have consultants. And I was... With Ms. Garcia and the tasks with which she is responsible for oversight, I don't think she needs to have consultants. And I was sorry and dismayed to hear that institutional memory would be interpreted as neighborhood idle gossip. This is terrible because they are not one in the same. They are not co-equal. |
03:32:13.91 | Ian | Therefore, |
03:32:14.82 | Ian | I urge you to consider... |
03:32:16.69 | Ian | looking at how to effectively give this woman a team. |
03:32:19.96 | Ian | And I don't mean paid consultants. We need that memory. We need the data. |
03:32:24.03 | Ian | inside our facilities. |
03:32:26.43 | Ian | And I really want to make sure that we're clear going forward that everything that we do to improve our community is |
03:32:32.08 | Ian | We'll rely on the choices we make right now. |
03:32:35.89 | Ian | Right now. |
03:32:37.89 | Ian | particularly along Bridgeway. Thank you so much for letting me speak. |
03:32:43.62 | Joan Cox | City Clerk. |
03:32:44.30 | City Clerk | Yeah, we have Senator Bushmaker. |
03:32:49.99 | Sandra Bushmaker | Good evening, Council. I am fighting a cold, so I will just quickly say I'm glad to see SB 79 is on your agenda. |
03:32:58.41 | Sandra Bushmaker | You know it is due tomorrow at noon through the legislative portal. That's the deadline for your response to... |
03:33:06.42 | Sandra Bushmaker | SB 79 for the hearing. I'm |
03:33:10.49 | Sandra Bushmaker | The League of California Cities has already submitted a letter, Catalysts of California. |
03:33:15.77 | Sandra Bushmaker | I attended their meeting last night, have submitted a letter. |
03:33:18.98 | Sandra Bushmaker | And they were very clear that the deadline is tomorrow at noon. |
03:33:23.43 | Sandra Bushmaker | The other one, I'm not so sure when the deadline is, but I would certainly check. |
03:33:27.57 | Sandra Bushmaker | and make sure that we have access to that legislative |
03:33:31.50 | Sandra Bushmaker | portal. |
03:33:32.19 | Sandra Bushmaker | in Sacramento. Thank you. |
03:33:35.31 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
03:33:37.13 | City Clerk | No further public comment. |
03:33:38.30 | Joan Cox | All right, so I'm seeking consensus that we issue on behalf, that I sign and issue on behalf of the city |
03:33:48.73 | Joan Cox | Opposition letters to SB 79 and SB 634. |
03:33:54.94 | Mayor | I'll make that motion. |
03:33:55.93 | Joan Cox | Great. |
03:33:58.01 | Councilmember Hoffman | Second. |
03:33:58.45 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
03:33:59.41 | Councilmember Hoffman | See you next time. |
03:33:59.53 | Council Member Blousting | second. |
03:33:59.97 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
03:34:00.15 | Council Member Blousting | All in favor? |
03:34:01.18 | Joan Cox | you |
03:34:01.40 | Council Member Blousting | Thank you. |
03:34:01.47 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
03:34:01.48 | Council Member Blousting | Thank you. |
03:34:01.52 | Joan Cox | I, |
03:34:01.84 | Council Member Blousting | Bye. |
03:34:02.19 | Council Member Blousting | And I abstained because I didn't have enough time to effectively review the legislation, so I want to make sure I'm fully aware. |
03:34:07.68 | Joan Cox | Okay. That motion carries 4-1. |
03:34:10.46 | Council Member Blousting | I abstained. I didn't vote. I said 4-1. But that's on the nay. It's an abstention. |
03:34:15.24 | Council Member Blousting | Thank you. |
03:34:15.25 | Joan Cox | you |
03:34:15.31 | Council Member Blousting | with one |
03:34:16.17 | Joan Cox | abstaining. |
03:34:16.94 | Council Member Blousting | Thank you. |
03:34:17.03 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
03:34:17.60 | Joan Cox | 401-1. Yeah. |
03:34:19.62 | Joan Cox | All right, I'm going to move on to appointments. We have a member of the Planning Commission whose term is expiring, and we have interviewed several folks, and I will... |
03:34:37.63 | Joan Cox | At this time, open this matter up for public comment. |
03:34:43.49 | Council Member Blousting | Did you have to follow me the nomination? Yeah, because... No, you don't have to tell me why. I believe you. |
03:34:45.51 | Joan Cox | Yeah. |
03:34:48.67 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
03:34:48.75 | Joan Cox | I love you, Merrill. |
03:34:48.80 | Alice Merrill | I love you, Merle. |
03:34:49.36 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
03:34:49.92 | Joan Cox | Go ahead, Alice Merrill. |
03:34:51.00 | Alice Merrill | Thank you. |
03:34:52.80 | Alice Merrill | Um, |
03:34:53.48 | Alice Merrill | I know that it's not an easy thing to get the people, the right people for boards, for anything, for all of these things. But it's going to take a Herculean effort to replace Christina. She's good. She's smart. She has been there a long time. And I know that you're not willing to extend her until we're finished with the housing element. But boy, oh boy. |
03:35:18.97 | Alice Merrill | really work to give somebody who understands all of that stuff because it's complicated and you know it's our town this is big thank you |
03:35:32.09 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
03:35:33.32 | Bobette McDougall | Bye-bye, Montego. |
03:35:42.16 | Ian | Thank you for acknowledging me. |
03:35:44.05 | Ian | I would like to say that further to Alice Merrill's comments, we are both now speaking on behalf of the majority of your constituents. |
03:35:53.52 | Ian | And yet somehow I get the sense that you don't buy it. And that's unfortunate for you, especially you that are commonly referred to. |
03:36:00.82 | Ian | as the gang of four. |
03:36:02.46 | Ian | I would be careful if I were you on what you decide not to support or to support. I think you should. |
03:36:08.96 | Ian | Thank you. |
03:36:09.16 | Ian | on bend and knee. |
03:36:11.18 | Ian | and ask Christine Feller to stay on. I know that you spoke very strongly in favor of extending her second term. |
03:36:18.64 | Ian | This is not without precedent. Let us not forget. |
03:36:22.36 | Ian | If I'm not mistaken, please correct me if I'm wrong, Madam Mayor, but were you not also extended at a certain point for one of your tenures of service? |
03:36:32.87 | Ian | So I ask you to consider strongly the wisdom |
03:36:35.79 | Ian | of maintaining what is in fact institutional memory, not idle community gossip, |
03:36:41.54 | Ian | I suppose if you don't want to re-up Christine Feller, you better be damn well prepared to say why. |
03:36:47.21 | Ian | and show that you can do better than her. And I challenge you to try that. |
03:36:51.45 | Ian | not to diminish the public's will. |
03:36:53.90 | Ian | but to, in fact, respect the public's will. Thank you so much. |
03:37:00.14 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
03:37:00.24 | City Clerk | Next speaker is... |
03:37:01.56 | City Clerk | is Sandra Bushmaker. |
03:37:06.33 | Sandra Bushmaker | Hello again. I, too, support Christina Feller's extension. |
03:37:11.40 | Sandra Bushmaker | of her position on the planning commission and, |
03:37:14.50 | Sandra Bushmaker | She has... |
03:37:15.77 | Sandra Bushmaker | participated in that. |
03:37:17.27 | Sandra Bushmaker | in the housing element, the sixth cycle, |
03:37:20.14 | Sandra Bushmaker | from the get go, chaired the committee. |
03:37:22.53 | Sandra Bushmaker | and chaired the working group and chaired |
03:37:25.03 | Sandra Bushmaker | the number of other things with regard to the housing element. And I think we need that institutional knowledge. We do not need a newbie. |
03:37:34.48 | Sandra Bushmaker | uh, |
03:37:35.38 | Sandra Bushmaker | on, |
03:37:36.02 | Sandra Bushmaker | Thank you. |
03:37:36.07 | Sandra Bushmaker | handling this until we get this amended housing element completed. Thank you. |
03:37:42.50 | City Clerk | No more further. |
03:37:43.04 | Bobette McDougall | public comment. |
03:37:43.61 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
03:37:46.09 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
03:37:50.02 | Joan Cox | I do want to briefly respond to the comments. |
03:37:57.48 | Joan Cox | The staff report points out that the City Council has a resolution, has an ordinance in place |
03:38:07.83 | Joan Cox | allowing |
03:38:08.97 | Joan Cox | Um, |
03:38:12.13 | Joan Cox | commissioners to serve for up to a maximum of six years. Is the city attorney still with us? |
03:38:19.87 | City Attorney | I am present. |
03:38:21.09 | Joan Cox | three years ago when we had to ratify some of the actions taken by |
03:38:26.62 | Joan Cox | planning commissioners that had not been |
03:38:28.99 | Joan Cox | reappointed, |
03:38:30.40 | Joan Cox | I seem to recall you advising us that the danger |
03:38:33.98 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
03:38:34.10 | Joan Cox | of having a |
03:38:36.40 | Joan Cox | Planning Commissioner serve outside of the term allowed by. |
03:38:41.29 | Joan Cox | the City Council ordinance is that they're |
03:38:45.19 | Joan Cox | Any actions they take or votes they make could invalidate the action on that matter by the Planning Commission. |
03:38:53.54 | Joan Cox | Do I have that right? |
03:38:55.08 | City Attorney | Yeah, there is a risk that unless someone is properly appointed to serve their term, that their participation in decisions could be subject to challenge. |
03:39:06.94 | City Attorney | I have also on this same subject received questions from |
03:39:11.76 | City Attorney | Council members about the ability of |
03:39:14.63 | City Attorney | the city to change 258.090 with respect to term limits on |
03:39:21.70 | City Attorney | city boards and commissions and |
03:39:24.18 | City Attorney | That term limit provision does exist in the municipal code has been created by the city, so it can be modified by the city council. |
03:39:32.42 | Joan Cox | Yeah. |
03:39:34.04 | Joan Cox | City Attorney, our protocols indicate that when you receive a question from a City Council member, that you are to provide a response to all Council members. |
03:39:43.66 | Joan Cox | So could you adopt that practice moving forward? |
03:39:47.24 | City Attorney | Yes. |
03:39:47.74 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
03:39:48.06 | Joan Cox | Okay. Appreciate that. Okay. Um, |
03:39:52.47 | Joan Cox | With that, obviously, we were privileged to... |
03:39:57.44 | Joan Cox | hear from a number of very qualified candidates. |
03:40:00.97 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
03:40:01.02 | Joan Cox | Actually, I have a comment. |
03:40:03.25 | Joan Cox | You can make a comment after I make a motion, a nomination. |
03:40:06.56 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
03:40:06.61 | Unknown | Thank you. |
03:40:06.64 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
03:40:06.69 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
03:40:26.33 | Joan Cox | um, |
03:40:31.21 | Joan Cox | Right. |
03:40:32.24 | Joan Cox | I nominate Joshua Richmond to serve as planning commissioner. |
03:40:40.75 | Joan Cox | And if there's no second, I invite other nominations. |
03:40:44.12 | Mayor | I'm going to invite Fred Moore, nominate Fred Moore. It's getting late. |
03:40:46.92 | Mika Stefani | it. |
03:40:46.99 | Joan Cox | I'm sorry. |
03:40:49.47 | Joan Cox | Second. |
03:40:49.99 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
03:40:51.28 | Joan Cox | Okay, so any other nominations? |
03:40:53.72 | Councilmember Hoffman | I'd like to nominate Bob Lalong, and I'd like to make some comments. |
03:40:57.96 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
03:40:58.01 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
03:40:58.03 | Joan Cox | OK, is there a second to the nomination for Bob Lalonde? |
03:41:02.28 | Joan Cox | Okay, there's not. So the pending nomination is for Fred Moore, and I will entertain comments. |
03:41:10.28 | Mayor | I made the nomination. You started to say, I think, Mayor Cox, that we had several excellent... |
03:41:18.61 | Mayor | applicants with great credentials. I think I know all three of the sort of final three that still had their hat in the ring and in particular have worked with each of them. Therefore, okay, I'm sorry. But anyway, the point that was made earlier that I think the city attorney confirms, we have an ordinance. We have term limits. I personally think term limits are a good thing for planning commission. Planning commissioners have tremendous authority. Their decisions, unlike almost any other commission, can be final unless appealed to the council. This is probably the most important body we have for appointments. So I take it very seriously, and I also think that because of term limits, we have to follow our own rules, our own law. We can't just willy-nilly change it, extend it, and as the C.E. Attorney points out, jeopardize some of the decisions that might be forthcoming, which are very crucial, as we've seen tonight and as we will see in the future. So speaking to Mr. Moore, he's very experienced in the area. He's a lawyer. He's been representing developers. He understands. He served on the Tustin City Council, and if you go look about Tustin, it's a great family-oriented community, and I would say anybody who's served on another planning commission in another community could add some real value. That might be good for us to consider. He lives here. He walks every day. He knows the city north and south. And I think he would make a good addition to the commission. |
03:42:57.23 | Councilmember Hoffman | And so with regard to my comments, I would just like to acknowledge all of the public comments and the concerns that we saw under this item. We had 30 pieces of public comment that we received, written public comment in addition to the ones this evening. of those 30 public comments that were received, 31 of those were principally concerned about completion of the housing element and requesting that Commissioner Feller was extended principally, I think, out of concern to complete the housing element and acknowledging how complicated it was. and I think respecting the current makeup of the housing, the Planning Commission as it is, and wanting that team to get it across the finish line and out of respect for the current CDD. And so my conversations with the |
03:43:57.93 | Councilmember Hoffman | Um, |
03:43:58.72 | Councilmember Hoffman | City Attorney, I believe that under the 2.58.110 additional policies regarding city boards, commissions, and committees does give... |
03:44:09.96 | Councilmember Hoffman | The out to the |
03:44:12.46 | Councilmember Hoffman | City Council. |
03:44:14.05 | Councilmember Hoffman | that additional policies regarding city boards commission |
03:44:17.98 | Councilmember Hoffman | does allow us by resolution or minute order to establish |
03:44:22.33 | Councilmember Hoffman | additional policies, procedures, and standards governing city boards, commissions, and committees. He and I have gone back and forth about |
03:44:31.06 | Councilmember Hoffman | you know, the risks involved in that. But there's no question that in the past commissioners on the planning commission have overstayed their second term. There's no question that numerous planning commissioners have overstayed that second term. There's also no question that I agree that that shouldn't have happened and that I believe that this is the way that you would do it if we decided that because of the risks, that we don't want to introduce somebody new into the Planning Commission with the risk that you don't know how that new person, you know, |
03:45:12.79 | Councilmember Hoffman | And you wouldn't want to impose that responsibility on somebody new and trying to figure out how to navigate those decisions, what may come from HCD and what taskers may come, and not having the background. So that's principally, I think, what people are concerned with. and I you know when you weigh what's the best path forward I think it warrants consideration by the council and not just ignoring those concerns that are voiced by the people in our town. |
03:45:47.23 | Councilmember Hoffman | with that, um, |
03:45:48.83 | Councilmember Hoffman | You know, I nominated Bob, it didn't get a second. |
03:45:51.48 | Councilmember Hoffman | I think |
03:45:53.54 | Councilmember Hoffman | He would have been a stellar person on our planning commission. And sorry that no one up here decided to give him a second. So that's all I'll say. |
03:46:06.74 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
03:46:06.77 | Council Member Blousting | Thank you. I, oh, go ahead. I mean, I'm happy to make some comments, because I think as someone who has applied for the Planning Commission and not been appointed, I know how this process goes quite well, and I've been through it. |
03:46:21.17 | Council Member Blousting | And the planning commission is indeed a critical body for our community. It's extremely important. And I definitely want to extend in response to all of the comments that we did receive with regards to the extension of Commissioner Feller's term. First of all, you know, obviously a great deal of gratitude to Commissioner Feller for her six years of service on the planning commission. |
03:46:41.80 | Council Member Blousting | Obviously, it goes without saying that she put in extensive hours and volunteer capacity for our city, and we're so lucky to have such a talented field |
03:46:50.58 | Council Member Blousting | of folks to do that um the idea given what's going on nationally and the way government is just making decisions uh to change things because they feel like they can i would be deeply uncomfortable with making a change in our municipal code to extend a term when we have qualified applicants here um who i mean i'm i wanted to support fred moore because not only do i you know know him as a really wonderful community volunteer who I see at basically every Sausalito event, whether it's Sausalito Village or, you know, even just Cleveland. |
03:47:22.74 | Council Member Blousting | cleaning the stairs on your walks or whatever you're doing. He also has 40 years as a real estate attorney. So if anyone is able to get up to speed and bring forward the necessary competencies that we would like to have on our planning commission, I know that Fred has what it takes. And I think the right move going forward right now, given that we did have a number of really exciting candidates apply, is to move forward and start a new chapter with a new commissioner. So I'm excited that we have so many great applicants, and I'm really proud to support Fred Moore. |
03:47:52.92 | Council Member Blousting | So, I'm sorry, but I just have to... |
03:47:55.02 | Joan Cox | to that wait not everyone has yet had their first comment sorry pardon me anybody else |
03:48:00.93 | Councilmember Sobieski | Yeah, I just want to, we all put in long hours here on the dais. |
03:48:05.98 | Councilmember Sobieski | Thank you. |
03:48:06.20 | Councilmember Sobieski | for not much money. The Planning Commission puts in long hours, and I think for no money, right? Completely unpaid. So I want to tip my hat to outgoing Commissioner Feller and thank her for service to our community and all the people that apply, Joshua and Walter Lemmerman and Ron Olson and... |
03:48:24.74 | Councilmember Sobieski | and Bob Luan, all of whom have exceptional backgrounds. |
03:48:29.55 | Councilmember Sobieski | better than mine in many ways, and I hope that and I expect that they'll stay involved and hope that we can tap their engagement on some other commission, maybe on the planning commission in the future or historic planning commission or volunteer groups to help us manage our challenges in town. And so thanks again, Commissioner Feller. |
03:48:50.16 | Joan Cox | So let me just be clear. Hold on. I haven't gotten a comment, nor has the vice mayor. So once each of us can comment, then you can respond. |
03:48:57.33 | Councilmember Hoffman | did |
03:48:57.90 | Joan Cox | COMMUNITY. |
03:48:58.02 | Councilmember Hoffman | comments. |
03:48:58.27 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
03:48:58.34 | Joan Cox | Oh, he did. OK. Then I'm the only one who hasn't. So let me. |
03:49:01.76 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
03:49:03.71 | Joan Cox | This was really a tough toss-up. I was very disappointed in this... |
03:49:11.05 | Joan Cox | I came in with one perspective tonight based on prior interviews, and then tonight I was just remarkably impressed with Joshua Richmond. But I agree with my colleagues that Fred Moore is an absolutely also amazing candidate, and I look forward to working with him, assuming he is |
03:49:30.62 | Joan Cox | um, |
03:49:31.38 | Joan Cox | appointed and he brings also an impressive |
03:49:34.66 | Joan Cox | Um, |
03:49:36.09 | Joan Cox | body of knowledge and experience, he also has been very present and participatory |
03:49:42.59 | Joan Cox | on various issues that we've been confronting over the last year. So I appreciate that. I also want to personally thank, |
03:49:49.88 | Joan Cox | Christina Feller. So, um, |
03:49:52.71 | Joan Cox | when we have difficult issues, |
03:49:55.76 | Joan Cox | on housing to listen to I always look forward to hearing the Planning Commission deliberations not just Christina also David Merlot also his name always escapes me yes Jeffrey Luxembourg we are so we are blessed with a talent with riches of talent on the Planning Commission and it's always difficult to say thank you |
03:50:22.23 | Joan Cox | Um, |
03:50:23.20 | Joan Cox | for now but I will point out that when I was first appointed to the Planning Commission |
03:50:27.95 | Joan Cox | Janelle Kelman was |
03:50:30.58 | Joan Cox | The chair. |
03:50:31.32 | Joan Cox | And when I was elected to the city council in 2016, I invited her to come back. |
03:50:37.11 | Joan Cox | to the Planning Commission, and she did. She came back and served again. |
03:50:40.77 | Joan Cox | And then she ran for the city council and became the mayor. So, |
03:50:44.13 | Joan Cox | I hope that Christina's career on behalf of the city of Sausalito is not at an end, but is just on to the next step. |
03:50:55.79 | Councilmember Hoffman | Thank you. |
03:50:56.11 | Councilmember Hoffman | Sorry. Sorry for jumping in line. But the comment that this in any way reflects what's going on in national politics, I think, is completely out of line. And I don't think that anybody that wrote in, any of the 30 people that wrote in and suggested that Christina stay on beyond her end of her term. |
03:51:15.30 | Councilmember Hoffman | any way reflects anything that's going on in the national politics or |
03:51:19.92 | Councilmember Hoffman | any way reflects that. I think it's concern about people |
03:51:23.19 | Councilmember Hoffman | that want us to get across the line with our housing element |
03:51:26.20 | Councilmember Hoffman | in the most competent way that we can. |
03:51:29.00 | Councilmember Hoffman | that helps the CDD department |
03:51:31.55 | Councilmember Hoffman | continue |
03:51:33.10 | Councilmember Hoffman | with the team that is currently on board. |
03:51:35.43 | Councilmember Hoffman | The only thing that I saw was that she would stay in place until the housing anomaly is certified. My only proposal was that the appointment would be suspended under our 2.58.110 by resolution until the housing anomaly is certified. |
03:52:03.44 | Councilmember Hoffman | that it wouldn't that the appointment wouldn't be she wouldn't be reappointed. |
03:52:07.48 | Councilmember Hoffman | that the ordinance wouldn't be changed or modified |
03:52:10.95 | Councilmember Hoffman | that it would merely be suspended for a certain small period of time. |
03:52:14.76 | Councilmember Hoffman | because of the exigent circumstances. I think that would be reasonable. It would be small. It would be by resolution of the city council to an ordinance that the city council |
03:52:25.31 | Councilmember Hoffman | put into place, and I think that would be within the scope and the power that we would do, that we would have authority to do, and I think that would be within our authority, actually. So we choose not to do it. That's up to us. That's fine, but I found those comments made by Council Member Blousting offensive, frankly, to me and to Council Member and to sorry Commissioner Feller so and to the people that wrote in because I think that was not true so |
03:52:58.77 | Joan Cox | All right, thank you. |
03:53:01.52 | Joan Cox | City Clerk, will you call the roll, please? |
03:53:04.39 | City Clerk | Council Member Blasting. |
03:53:06.92 | Joan Cox | Yes. |
03:53:07.40 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
03:53:07.68 | City Clerk | Councilmember Hoffman. |
03:53:09.62 | City Clerk | No, for the reasons I've stated. Councilmember Sobieski. |
03:53:12.97 | City Clerk | Thank you. |
03:53:13.22 | City Clerk | Vice Mayor Woodside. Yes. Mayor Cox. |
03:53:15.50 | Joan Cox | Yes, that motion carries 4-1. Congratulations, Mr. Moore. |
03:53:23.40 | Joan Cox | I will move on to 6E, future agenda items. We have attached to our packet a one-page list of future agenda items. It does not yet reflect some of the last couple of meetings, but we are updating it. We are also going to add another column that will reflect when some of those items will be heard. |
03:53:48.24 | Joan Cox | as you all review those future agenda items, you know they're not being ignored. Many of them have already been calendared |
03:53:54.73 | Joan Cox | into future meetings. |
03:53:57.79 | Joan Cox | Questions? |
03:53:59.31 | Council Member Blousting | I just want to make sure that we are going to hear the e-bike ordinance because I've had a lot of outreach from the county and I'm on that special committee. So I just... |
03:54:05.99 | Joan Cox | Yeah, I think we were going to hear it. It depends on when we hear the housing element, but it's either going to be heard in May or June. |
03:54:12.23 | Joan Cox | Okay. |
03:54:13.34 | Joan Cox | We were initially told it wasn't going to be ready till June, and now we've heard that it's going to be ready sooner. |
03:54:17.14 | Council Member Blousting | The first readings already happened at the county. So, you know, Tiburon's agendized it, Mill Valley's agendized it, Corte Madera's agendized it, and it's quite simple. So anyway, the sooner the better we are. |
03:54:27.50 | Mayor | Just a couple, and I don't want to take time. It's late. But in light of our hearing we had earlier, I'd like to at least explore the possibility of alternate means of conducting the factual part of these kind of hearings. I know the Planning Commission and our council sometimes has to try to decide disputed facts in a very difficult and time-consuming manner when in other jurisdictions many of them have a hearing officer who produces a factual record that can be reviewed |
03:54:56.83 | Mayor | Maybe you don't like that, Mayor, but I'd like to at least have a discussion about how we can streamline the process because, as we all know, eight years is far too long to have that particular issue that came up. Maybe it's an exception. I hope it's an exception. |
03:55:10.72 | Joan Cox | Well, I think it would have to be considered whether it could be feasible in the case where we are serving as the appellate body. So I would want to include that as something to be concerned. I understand. |
03:55:22.23 | Mayor | I understand. I just think we should look at the process. That's the main point. |
03:55:25.70 | Councilmember Sobieski | I know. |
03:55:25.92 | Joan Cox | you |
03:55:25.98 | Councilmember Sobieski | Thank you. |
03:55:26.03 | Councilmember Sobieski | you |
03:55:26.21 | Mayor | you |
03:55:26.40 | Councilmember Sobieski | I would second. |
03:55:27.21 | Mayor | you |
03:55:27.39 | Councilmember Sobieski | that general category also that there are these processes where we ping pong back and forth |
03:55:32.34 | Councilmember Sobieski | between us and the Planning Commission and back and just having the general category of how to |
03:55:37.11 | Councilmember Sobieski | Tighten that up and make it less time consuming is what I'm also interested in. |
03:55:40.96 | Councilmember Sobieski | giving staff direction on. |
03:55:43.34 | Mayor | So the second item is something that came up during our Bridgeway discussion. And I know we will be addressing some of the particular safety improvements, but there's also an issue raised concerning parking in the median. And I'd like to at least have a discussion and get more information and have a discussion about |
03:56:03.86 | Mayor | enforcement, not just a parking or the rules of the road, but we also, I hear complaints every day about speeding |
03:56:12.36 | Mayor | And we did lower the speed limits, so there's going to be a question of how that gets enforced vis-a-vis both automobiles and cyclists. |
03:56:20.50 | Joan Cox | So we already gave direction on that. That's already on the future agenda items list. |
03:56:24.19 | Mayor | That particular topic? Enforcement. Okay, great. |
03:56:25.02 | Joan Cox | Okay, great. We gave direction on that at the Saturday meeting. |
03:56:29.90 | Mayor | you |
03:56:29.97 | Mayor | that |
03:56:30.66 | Joan Cox | Yeah. |
03:56:31.58 | Joan Cox | Thank you. |
03:56:32.60 | Joan Cox | Okay, next is minutes. |
03:56:36.24 | Joan Cox | Any, that's just an informational item. Any other reports of significance? |
03:56:45.15 | Joan Cox | Okay, I'm going to open it up to public comment for the last time. |
03:56:49.59 | City Clerk | All right, by Bet MacDougall. |
03:56:51.65 | Joan Cox | Oh, sorry. |
03:56:56.31 | Joan Cox | I said I'm opening it to public comment. |
03:56:59.72 | Sandra Bushmaker | Thank you. |
03:56:59.75 | Unknown | Thank you. |
03:56:59.77 | Sandra Bushmaker | China. |
03:57:01.17 | Joan Cox | It's on items 6E to 6G. |
03:57:07.46 | Joan Cox | as reflected on the agenda. |
03:57:11.78 | City Clerk | All right, Babette McDougall. |
03:57:18.57 | Ian | Thank you. Well, it's nice to have this chance to do the aggregate instead of looking at future agenda items. That means I can really open it up. So future agenda items. Frankly, we really need to look at seriously. |
03:57:31.78 | Ian | examining the context of our infrastructure plans, which are vitally important. |
03:57:37.42 | Ian | Keeping the town safe. |
03:57:40.22 | Ian | keeping us free from harm, |
03:57:42.44 | Ian | and keeping us free from litigation and unnecessary debt. |
03:57:47.54 | Ian | So I'd like to see a future agenda item on implementing |
03:57:51.79 | Ian | the city and how it manages to implement |
03:57:55.59 | Ian | savings measures and corrective actions in the budget process when we find ourselves oozing red ink |
03:58:03.62 | Ian | And this is no time to ooze red ink. |
03:58:05.98 | Ian | So what that means is we're really not tightened up as much as we need to be. I thought the strategic planning session was awesome. I think you guys are really moving in wonderful directions in many ways. |
03:58:18.37 | Ian | But it needs to be in concert and in lockstep. |
03:58:22.61 | Ian | And we need to look at this as a future agenda item, since this is where we're supposed to be in public comment. And the future agenda item is this. You need to think more carefully about how we're going forward. We all know the Metropolitan Transportation Commission is coming. That's why Stephanie Moulton-Peters came and gave that wonderful surprise presentation. She put it all on the table. And it's all imminent. Now, if we don't get serious about our role in this, I don't know what we're going to do next, because frankly, the housing element, I'm sorry if I'm boring you, Ms. Blaustein, but if the housing element is frankly the tip of the iceberg and you all know it. |
03:59:02.11 | Ian | So thank you so much. And I'm really sorry that I'm just not able to hold your attention. And I'm sorry that you don't agree with my ideas on what ought to be agendized for future discussion. These are things that are always slipping through the cracks. That's why you're voting against the citizens will tonight. |
03:59:17.32 | Ian | Thank you. |
03:59:19.93 | Joan Cox | All right. |
03:59:21.35 | City Clerk | No further public comment. |
03:59:22.61 | Joan Cox | Thank you. With that, I will adjourn the meeting, but I would like to adjourn it in honor of... |
03:59:30.33 | Joan Cox | A friend to all of us on the dais and to many in Sausalito, Joanne Wishart, who is the owner of Joanne's Print Shop. |
03:59:39.76 | Joan Cox | She died unexpectedly on March 21st. Many of us have dealt with her partner Dee, and anybody who has |
03:59:52.03 | Joan Cox | looked for the highest quality and lowest price printing of anything in Sausalito knows Joanne's print shop, um, |
04:00:02.10 | Joan Cox | It is a landmark, both in terms of the length of time that they have provided service, as well as the competency, quality, friendliness. That is just the perfect example of a community partner. |
04:00:21.83 | Joan Cox | I did not know until I saw her obituary that she began her printing year 57 years ago. |
04:00:27.94 | Joan Cox | when she and her husband founded 4th and D copy center |
04:00:31.41 | Joan Cox | in San Rafael. |
04:00:32.76 | Joan Cox | before she came here to Sausalito. So she earned the Lifetime Achievement Award from the Sausalito Chamber in 2017. Well deserved, and she will be missed. So we will adjourn this evening's meeting in her honor. |
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